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Post by Rurry on Jul 27, 2009 4:41:13 GMT -5
My December was kind of the definition of a messy era. Although it was never really smashing with hits, they could've at least tried with songs like One Minute, Don't Waste Your Time, and How I Feel...they would have never reached the success of the Breakaway singles but they could've been decent hits.
Doll Domination was handled really poorly as well, with all of the cancelled singles and whatnot.
I think Leona's Spirit era could have been handled better. Everything was fine and dandy with Bleeding Love and Better in Time, but I Will Be was a horrible single choice, it should've been Forgive Me or Take a Bow. And then there was the re-release that had absolutely no motive to get people to buy it...
I wouldn't call Britney's Oops a messed up era. Really it had 3 radio hits (Stronger wasn't a smash, but it was a hit) and I think, aside from DLMBTLTK (which is a great album track, but a not-so-great single), they picked the right singles. Stronger *should've* been the biggest hit of the era. Katy's OOTB had a bad single choice, but I wouldn't say the era itself was messed up since it was able to rebound.
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Post by CTE on Jul 27, 2009 5:10:23 GMT -5
B Day, and we all know why. Ashanti's Chapter 2. Ugh.
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Post by Monroe on Jul 27, 2009 7:11:07 GMT -5
LOL @ "Oops!...I Did It Again," an album that went DIAMOND being a "messed up" era. Obviously it wasn't. its singles were kinda messed up so even if it went diamond, it only had 2 radio hits. That may have just been due to overexposure. I really don't think the singles could have been better. Unless she went with all Max Martin based tracks, but I don't think it would have mattered at that point. Radio was just about at their breaking point with the teen-pop sound. The singles that "flopped" from "Oops!...I Did It Again", were "Stronger" and "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know" which were both released at the end of 2000 or early 2001 which was about the time where radio programmers were just about done with pop music and they started to experience lots of demand for R and B, Rap and Hip Hop music.
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Post by Minimalism on Jul 27, 2009 7:48:39 GMT -5
Ok, just to add some new perspective into this thread: Trisha Yearwood, "Heaven, Heartache, and the Power Of Love" era.
As much as I LOVE "This Is Me You're Talking To", it was just too slow for radio. Not to mention the fact that it repeats the verses and pre-chorus twice before hitting the chorus, so not exactly your radio-friendly fare. Which is a shame, because the album packs quite a few more accessible ballads, like "Nothing 'Bout Memphis" or "Let The Wind Chase You" (which even features guest vocals from Keith Urban, which would ensure better chart placement).
As for the third single, I feel "I Guess They Call It Falling For A Reason" is a little too lightweight and is actually one of the weaker tracks on the album, as it is not distinct enough, a trait she needs to focus on to separate herself from other countless younger, blonde women in country music. Instead, I would choose the more melodically pleasing "We Tried" or "That's Not A Bad Thing". After that, just release "Cowboys Are My Weakness" just for the heck of it, who knows, it could perhaps emerge a decent, surprise hit.
Seriously, this is arguably the best mainstream country album in YEARS (I would even argue for the decade), and it deserves MUCH more than its measley 200k sold! :'(
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Post by jimijoop on Feb 23, 2023 18:19:38 GMT -5
BeyoncΓ© - Renaissance.
Her most commercially successful album since I am Sasha Fierce yet it had 0 promo, 0 video clips 0 anything. It's like she disowned that album quickly.
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Post by rnb on Feb 23, 2023 22:29:30 GMT -5
reputation, single choices were a mess, didnβt even release the album to spotify at first, rfi way too late, lwymmd completely freefell, delicate had no streaming success whatsoever, it was not a good era (especially compared to 1989)
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BeyoncΓ© - Renaissance. Her most commercially successful album since I am Sasha Fierce yet it had 0 promo, 0 video clips 0 anything. It's like she disowned that album quickly. She is about to tour for that album very soon. If she truly had disowned it, she wouldnβt be doing the tour. I think she was trying something very different with this particular album instead of doing the same exact promotional cycle that she is done in the past.
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Post by rainie on Feb 24, 2023 17:45:17 GMT -5
the weeknd - starboy, ed sheeran's =, and camilla cabello's debut are all examples of albums where the first two single pushes were handled solidly, but then things went completely off the rails afterwards (though in the case of camilla, im not complaining ) there's also 30 by adele, where they just. flat out didn't release a third single after oh my god underperformed (which was surprising, yes, but it might have just been a bit too soon after eom and i think a third single could've easily done well with a proper push)
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Post by After Minutes on Feb 24, 2023 19:27:04 GMT -5
Dawn FM easily. With the right rollout it could've given Abel like two more #1s
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Post by Joe1240 on Feb 25, 2023 0:06:50 GMT -5
Christina Aguilera-Bionic/Lotus/Liberation-All are decent albums in their own right with Liberation being the best one but they were all marketed very bad. "Your Body" a Max Martin lead single in peak pop 2012 not doing anything just seems off and Christina had The Voice at the time to back it up.
Taylor Swift-reputation/Lover-I love all Taylor Swift albums but both albums have messed up rollouts with easter eggs and freefalling songs on radio and Me! being the wrong lead single for Lover.
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Post by jimijoop on Jul 16, 2023 1:09:17 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson - Meaning of Life/Chemistry
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Jul 16, 2023 2:08:49 GMT -5
Mya
Liberation- never even got a release in the U.S.
Moodring
Very sad that only two singles got released
Ashanti
Chapter II-Concrete Rose
I really enjoyed those albums, but both eras felt more underwhelming and quiet compared to her debut era.
Amerie
Touch/Because I Love It/In Love & War
All her singles after "1 Thing" failed to make much impact on the charts.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jul 16, 2023 11:35:20 GMT -5
BeyoncΓ© - Renaissance. Her most commercially successful album since I am Sasha Fierce yet it had 0 promo, 0 video clips 0 anything. It's like she disowned that album quickly. She is about to tour for that album very soon. If she truly had disowned it, she wouldnβt be doing the tour. I think she was trying something very different with this particular album instead of doing the same exact promotional cycle that she is done in the past. Yeah, I don't think any of this is 'mismanagement'. Who knows for sure, but with Beyonce, I figure everything rolls out exactly as intended.
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 17, 2023 15:23:33 GMT -5
Katy Perry - Prism, Witness, & Smile
The singles rollout for all three of these eras was messy and questionable at some point. If things were handled better during these eras, Katy would have more hits than she already does and sheβd be in a better spot commercially. All three albums have some pop gems that were never promoted as singles.
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Post by haven on Apr 29, 2024 13:16:57 GMT -5
Sabrina Carpenter was notoriously mismanaged by hollywood records before she got away from them in 2020. I think the most laughable example of this is the album rollout for EVOLution (2016): thumbs was dropped as a single, peaked at #1 at bubbling under... and then instead of pushing something else from the album to radio, they waited a whole year only to drop one of her worst songs to date ("Why"), which promptly did absolutely nothing. "No Words", "On Purpose" and maybe "Space" were all pop smashes waiting to happen imho.
also, "Looking At Me" was a missed single opportunity, but i think that ones more popular in hindsight than it was at the time.
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Post by The Music Man on Apr 29, 2024 18:20:41 GMT -5
Demi Lovatoβs Tell Me You Love Me era for sure. Opened the era with her biggest hit ever, multiple options at the ready for a follow-up, and they brought the momentum to a screeching halt with that dirge of a title track. Idiotic.
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"This Is How We Do" and "Birthday" were two of the most questionable single choices from that album era especially when at least half a dozen other songs could have been better single choices. "Unconditionally" may have underperformed but we got a beautiful music video out of it.
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Post by johnm1120 on May 2, 2024 0:14:13 GMT -5
Jesse McCartney - Right Where You Want Me
It was like Hollywood Records didn't know what to do with him. The album was solid and has the same peak as his debut album, but momentum faded quick and it wasn't given any chance to shine.
M2M (Both eras)
M2M were critically acclaimed and had solid pop albums, but Atlantic really screwed them, especially their 2nd album. The entire "Big Room" promo was based on them appearing on Dawson's Creek. Also the fact the rest of the world got first single months before the US did during the Napster era. Atlantic also pulled them as Jewel's opening act on her tour after the album missed the BB200 not even giving it a chance to grow.
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