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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 0:00:27 GMT -5
..."Losing My Mind" should definitely be a single after "Outta My Head" if that's the direction they're going in. After listening to the album for a bit longer, I have to agree with you. "Losing My Mind" is a fantastic song. It's probably my favorite on the album. "Start of Something Good" is another song that could be a single as well. The album as a whole I'm still digging, and I'm also glad that I got the Deluxe Edition of the album. I really like the bonus songs sans "Lullaby". This might be too early to say, but I'm starting to think that this is their best album, in my opinion of course.
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Post by Rumors on Jan 14, 2012 8:43:29 GMT -5
When is the second single coming out? I know Crawling is getting decent HotAC airplay but the downloads have been horrible. To me the first single was a pretty big disappointment. Chris and his label need to really release the right song as single #2 or that will probably be the last release this era (or one with a video since they made a video for the rock release that also didn't do much).
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Post by daydrmblvr on Jan 14, 2012 12:21:09 GMT -5
If the pattern holds from the last era, then unfortunately you can expect another single release in March sometime, late February if RCA is generous. And I guess I've just gotten really pessimistic, but I tend to believe that whatever the next single is WILL probably be the last release this era.
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Post by penpal99 on Jan 14, 2012 21:50:32 GMT -5
If the pattern holds from the last era, then unfortunately you can expect another single release in March sometime, late February if RCA is generous. And I guess I've just gotten really pessimistic, but I tend to believe that whatever the next single is WILL probably be the last release this era. I hate to admit it- but I share your point of view :( I believe with the lukewarmth performances of both the album and the first single- their rank of importance is slipping fast in the eyes of the label heads. Which explains why the band are so 'busy' at home! Well I hope that either SOSG or Losing My Mind or Break The Spell is the next one. I totally believe Outta My Head, if selected, shall bury this very sad era with finality.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 14, 2012 22:02:11 GMT -5
I think SOSG (or LMM) would be a better choice since it has a greater chance to perform well at HAC, which is essentially their core format. If that does well, move to Outta My Head and hopefully that would crossover.
How "well" did "Renegade" do?
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Post by Rumors on Jan 16, 2012 18:37:25 GMT -5
Which explains why the band are so 'busy' at home! Yeah, I read Chris' tweets from time to time and I do agree with this. I can understand being home for two weeks or so with the family but there doesn't seem to be much going on. A Price Is Right appearance for charity? You know one thing I questioned and wondered about when I first read about it. Why release a new album and then disappear overseas for two weeks to go to military bases and perform for the troops. I know it was a great cause and Chris said it was life changing but the timing of it pretty much stunk as far as marketing his album. Did the album sell anything outside the US? How did it do in Australia? A place where American rock bands can do well even if they never take off in Europe. Is Asia a decent market for Daughtry? Even Taylor Hicks did well in Asia and got to go over there and sing in a Mall. Point being that Asia is generally pretty good to AI contestants. Adam Lambert is doing very well there and I think Kelly Clarkson does too. They are pop though so Asia may be more a pop or heavy rock (Linkin Park) territory. I'm not a big fan of this type of rock music anymore but at the same time I hate to see crossover rock totally disappear from radio so I am hoping they can make some traction outside HotAC on the next release. Rock radio just isn't going to support this group. They tried it one more time and it didn't take off. My guess is that will be it to the rock formats. A few stations may pick something up on their own but that will probably be it.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 16, 2012 19:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jay on Jan 16, 2012 19:16:13 GMT -5
I'm hoping "Gone Too Soon" is a single, a.k.a. one of the best songs of his career.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 16, 2012 19:27:05 GMT -5
Don't know if it would work as a single, but I'd love to see them give it a shot! Definitely one of their best.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 24, 2012 0:26:21 GMT -5
Tracks being considered for the next single: "Losing My Mind" "We're Not Gonna Fall" - WTF no!!! "Outta My Head" www.twitvid.com/L4L79
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Post by mcm on Jan 24, 2012 9:10:43 GMT -5
Tracks being considered for the next single: "Losing My Mind" "We're Not Gonna Fall" - WTF no!!! "Outta My Head" www.twitvid.com/L4L79Thank you for posting that. I see the tweet was deleted. hmmm It appears that RCA is giving him a hard time with "Outta My Head". ??? Please no to WNGF. RCA & singles = ???
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Post by penpal99 on Jan 24, 2012 10:32:20 GMT -5
Tracks being considered for the next single: "Losing My Mind" "We're Not Gonna Fall" - WTF no!!! "Outta My Head" www.twitvid.com/L4L79Thank you for posting that. I see the tweet was deleted. hmmm It appears that RCA is giving him a hard time with "Outta My Head". ??? Please no to WNGF. RCA & singles = ??? What do you mean that the tweet was removed???? His tweet attaching this twitvid is still there .... Anyway I am glad that Losing My Mind is at least being considered for the make or break 2nd single:) Here is a link to a recent acoustic rendition - m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=SG#/watch?v=ZrtTwl3K8DII like Outta My Head as an album track - but I think it could be pretty tough in terms of live performance since it just has too many things going on at the same time - vocally, musically and production- wise. I would say it would be more misses than hits when the band take the stage with OMH. And We're Not Gonna Fall as single material - one word to say it all 'STUPID!'. It is the only song that I skip after one listening. By the way- Chris looks drunk or just too odd in the twitvid! Lol
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jan 24, 2012 14:22:22 GMT -5
I actually think OMH would be the best choice. I know the heavy guitars could be a little polarizing for pop radio, but if they're still open to different styles, then I think OMH could do the trick and bring them another top 20. I'm also open to a less-guitar heavy mix for pop radio or HAC. LMM could work, too, but I can also see it not taking off. In a way, it's a grower and I think some of the chorus is a little too simple melodically. Tbh, WNGF is kinda growing on me and I'm starting to appreciate it, although it really wouldn't work as a single.
Quick question: like Nickelback supposedly being "banned" from pop radio recently, has Daughtry gotten this ban as well, causing CBTY to miss the top 40? Or did radio not really like the song?
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Post by Kurt on Jan 24, 2012 14:32:05 GMT -5
Thank you for posting that. I see the tweet was deleted. hmmm It appears that RCA is giving him a hard time with "Outta My Head". ??? Please no to WNGF. RCA & singles = ??? What do you mean that the tweet was removed???? His tweet attaching this twitvid is still there .... I think he deleted it after he realized that "wanking around" wasn't what he thought it was. He posted it twice, I believe, once with a different tweet.
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Post by Rumors on Jan 24, 2012 18:17:58 GMT -5
I watched that clip. I thought his gestures were a little odd, too. Anyway, I don't know the songs just from those clips but 1 and 2 sound similiar but I would rule 3 out immediately. Way to much rock for Pop and even HotAC at the moment. This band is in a very hard place. They want to be hard but rock radio won't play them yet their softer stuff is having a hard time finding a home on non-rock radio formats, too. Of course, they can always sell out like Train has and go absolutely pop. More likely this album will simply not sell over a million units. Not terrible in the current music scene but a definite sign the group is slowing down. The theater tour is another indication of that. Of course, if a second single were to take off, they can have a second US leg in amphitheaters this summer. It will be interesting to see what they pick as the second single. I just hope the video is a lot better than the one for CBTY.
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Post by penpal99 on Jan 25, 2012 4:56:08 GMT -5
I do agreed that Losing My Mind could have been better with richer musical structure - but it's strengths (IMO) are that the melody is catchy almost right from the start, low burnt out rate/high growth rate, Chris' use of falsetto in parts has the effect of making the listener liking and remembering the song; and it has a moody sound which resonates an affecting emotion, thus making it easily relatable to both die hard and casual listeners. Did I mention that it is one of the easier Daughtry songs to sing along in koraoke rooms:)
I understand that guitar-driven songs from rock bands are no longer current now - so if the 2nd single is Losing My Mind or Start of Something Good, i believe that their album sales figure would touch Gold and I would be most happy for them.
I still hold the belief that Start of Something Good is the key that will bring real success to the band in terms of album and single sales and heavy radio spins from the Hot AC, AC and even Pop radio stations. If this well loved song is released as a single now or in the fall - i would be a most satisfied fan:)
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Post by mcm on Jan 29, 2012 2:00:10 GMT -5
Album MP3 is just $3.99 on Amazon this Sunday 1/29. myplay.me/lf2
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Post by penpal99 on Jan 30, 2012 11:01:59 GMT -5
In my own ideal world, the singles which should be chosen from the Break The Spell era are:
1st single - Crawling Back To You Unlike some other posters, my humble opinion is that CBTY is far from being the weakest song in the album:) Personally, I think that the bonus songs are actually the most underwhelming bunch (Yawn!) this era. On the other hand, all the bonus tracks from the LLT are so much stronger than the tegular ones.
CBTY has what it takes to become a top 5 Hot AC hit for Daughtry - it falters (I believe) due to its heavier rock sound when Hot AC radio stations are embracing more pop songs. Also, this single is not as melodious (which has always been the strength of Daughyty's past hit singles).
But I still believe CBTY is the right song as the first single - it retains most of the old elements while injecting some differences to prepare the listeners for fresh stuff from the band.
2nd single - Start of Something Good With the relatively weak performance of CBTY, the band really need to recover lost grounds in their core format (Hot AC/AC) with a single which would be readily accepted by both the listeners and the DJs.
And SOSG - which is easiest the catchiest song - should be the choice.
3rd single - Losing My Mind Losing My Mind - apart from being one of the most likeabke songs - has a refreshing sound which is kinda different from their usual offerings.
4th and final single - Spaceship The song is definitely a sustainable grower :) Before you know it, you are helplessly transported beyond to an alternative existence of panoramic melodies, poetic lyrics and ethereal singing which leave you pinning for unrealized love and forgotten dreams. This is such a breathtaking song!
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Post by mcm on Jan 30, 2012 21:31:56 GMT -5
I'd have gone with: 1. Outta My Head 2. Start of Something Good 3. Break the Spell 4. Losing My Mind
CBTY, while different and more beautiful than before, the chorus is really similar and that's what stays with you. Sorry, but 3,000 spins and 17 AI on HAC is not going sell a lot of albums. I wish they would have started with Outta My Head and now would be perfect for the stunningly, beautiful SOSG. But at this point, and with rock not being popular, you cannot send another Daughtry ballad to radio. Even SOSG would stall. You need to change it up now, and hope for a hit. And then radio will be ready for SOSG. Whatever the single is, I hope they go for adds right away while the album is still selling a little.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 19:28:20 GMT -5
Tracks being considered for the next single: "Losing My Mind" "We're Not Gonna Fall" - WTF no!!! "Outta My Head" www.twitvid.com/L4L79Why is 'We're Not Gonna Fall' even a possible choice? It's an okay song, but not single material. 'Losing My Mind' and 'Outta My Head' would both be great singles. I don't care which order they release them in, they just need to be released.
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Post by circadian on Feb 13, 2012 23:08:24 GMT -5
So CBTY has been dead since it was released, and we don't have a follow up single yet... Nice job RCA, this is Leave This Town 2.0. Amazing album screwed by poor and lazy label choices.
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Post by Kurt on Feb 13, 2012 23:22:48 GMT -5
Tracks being considered for the next single: "Losing My Mind" "We're Not Gonna Fall" - WTF no!!! "Outta My Head" www.twitvid.com/L4L79Why is 'We're Not Gonna Fall' even a possible choice? It's an okay song, but not single material. 'Losing My Mind' and 'Outta My Head' would both be great singles. I don't care which order they release them in, they just need to be released. I think you just answered your own question: "It's an okay song, but not single material." I think there are many other songs on the album that should be singles before "We're Not Gonna Fall" gets that distinction--I won't deny that it's not a bad song, though. Ideally, the other two singles and "Start Of Something Good" would all see releases before it does...yet at this rate, I'm just hoping for something at all, hehe.
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Post by mcm on Feb 28, 2012 10:18:22 GMT -5
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Post by austin on Feb 28, 2012 11:48:15 GMT -5
Love that song so I am glad to see it released!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 12:55:58 GMT -5
Love that song so I am glad to see it released! Yeah, I agree. It's definitely a great choice.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Feb 28, 2012 12:57:43 GMT -5
Great single choice! Hope this can turn the era around for them!
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Post by penpal99 on Feb 28, 2012 13:11:14 GMT -5
No surprise here that Outta My Head is the new single here - it is as planned by the album sticker ....
I enjoy the song but as a single.......
Well - I really really hope that the record label could muster as much support as possible And that Chris can deliver a Fantastic performance on the Idol stage!
I have to admit that I am extremely nervous about it!!!
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Post by daydrmblvr on Feb 28, 2012 18:25:51 GMT -5
I'm just glad to have some news, and the appearance will be good promotion for the tour.
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