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Post by TFMachado on Sept 21, 2013 19:04:57 GMT -5
"Do You Think About Me" will go down as Carrie's biggest missed opportunity on radio. Such a shame! Nah, that will always and forever be "Someday When I Stop Loving You"...
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 21, 2013 19:05:38 GMT -5
Didn't Dierks Bentley release a GH after only 3 albums? Kenny Chesney released one after 5 albums, but he didn't have even as many hits as Carrie's had from 4 albums. Shania released one that only included hits from 3 albums.
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Post by countrybamafan on Sept 21, 2013 19:39:50 GMT -5
Make a greatest hits album. Call it "Oklahoma Wind". Have it be released as the first single. Perfect segway from the "Blown Away" era. Slay all. Personally, I would prefer that song be the title track on the next album, but if that's the only way Oklahoma Wind is going to be on an album, I am definitely for it! Honestly, I'm a bit pissed off that See You Again is the last single. This marks the second album cycle in a row where only four singles was released, and the last single of each was a mediocre AC song that should never have been released to radio. Yes, I know Mama's Song and See You Again both hit Top 2 (with See You Again hitting #1 on Mediabase), but as far as overall impact, neither has left one in my opinion. Bad ways to end album cycles! Also, on both albums, I personally believe the third single choices were wrong. One could argue that Undo It has been successful, but to me, that remains one of the cheesiest songs Carrie has released, which I don't think did her any favors in the long run. Two Black Cadillacs is certainly a different, solid song, but it came too soon after Blown Away, and honestly, it just wasn't as eventful as Blown Away. The last time Carrie has truly released a song that was undeniably country was I Told You So. As soon as you heard the opening notes to that song, you knew it was country. One could argue that Temporary Home fits that bill, but in my opinion, it's got a bit of a Christian/Christmasy sound, if that makes sense, much moreso than Jesus, Take The Wheel did. Otherwise, all the other singles have had an extremely pop/rock/AC/etc. flavor. I know that this is how the majority of country music is nowadays, but I am tired of it. As jhomes said, I certainly don't consider myself a traditionalist, and I actually enjoy some of the music on radio nowadays. I have even enjoyed Florida Georgia Line's single releases (although they certainly don't sound country). However, country has steered far away from its sound over the years, especially over the past 5 years (even moreso in the past 2-3 years, in my opinion) and it just keeps getting worse and worse, especially with lazy, terrible songwriting (which was not See You Again's strong point, another reason why I am sick that it's the last single off Blown Away because I believe it was the worst written song on the album). Songs that have a true country sound are very rarely played on the radio anymore (it's even less rare if they are big hits). This is why it would be so nice to see Carrie be the one to release a traditional song to radio and have it be successful. Wine After Whiskey certainly fits that bill (and nowadays, even Do You Think About Me). Unfortunately, I'm about at the point that I just don't see it happening anymore. I love Carrie's voice and her personality. She seems like a great person, but she frustrates me sometimes (often) with the decisions she (and her label) make. Also, I believe Carrie once made the comment that country is so diverse with many styles, traditional and not so traditional, and she doesn't consider herself traditional. If she still feels that way and prefers to release the music she has currently been releasing, then that's probably not happening. I am almost certain that if Carrie releases a more country album with excellent, well-written true country songs (I'm not saying release an oldies album. Just a 90's style album with catchy, radio-friendly songs, but those that are country, clever, well-written, and genuine), both critics and fans alike would love it. Yes, she may encounter a couple of songs that fail to reach the Top 2 on Billboard or Mediabase, but honestly, at this point, this isn't going to kill her career. Long careers involve taking some chances, even having a few failures. Plus, Carrie's voice is truly country through and through and shines on the true country songs, which is another reason for my frustration. The one thing that gives me very, very slight hope is that Carrie has stated that they don't know how they will top the Blown Away tour, and she has considered doing an acoustic tour someday because she loves standing and singing too. If that type of tour is next, maybe a more traditional album would follow? Please, please, please!
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Post by countrygirl918 on Sept 22, 2013 12:03:26 GMT -5
@carrieunderwood: #EmmyDay selfie time! Let's do this!
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Post by freeman on Sept 22, 2013 12:25:43 GMT -5
^She looks stunning in that picture! I'm excited for tonight. I'm going to miss the show but hopefully the performance will be up on youtube or something shortly after.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 22, 2013 14:20:34 GMT -5
Didn't Dierks Bentley release a GH after only 3 albums? Kenny Chesney released one after 5 albums, but he didn't have even as many hits as Carrie's had from 4 albums. Shania released one that only included hits from 3 albums. Very good. I will do this in chronological order. Ready? Kenny Chesney released his first greatest hits CD after releasing four CDs on BNA (a fifth was on Capricorn). They were: All I Need To Know, Me & You, I Will Stand, and Everywhere We Go. Shania Twain did the same after three CDs: The Woman In Me, Come On Over, and Up! (her debut CD did not do very well). Dierks Bentley did the same after three CDs: Dierks Bentley, Modern Day Drifter, and Long Trip Alone.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 22, 2013 15:04:13 GMT -5
^ Right. So it wouldn't be atypical for Carrie to release one now. Plus, if it's 12-14 hits with 2 new tracks, she'd still be leaving hits off. If you wait and add another album of hits, then she'd really be leaving some hits off. I'd say at this point a hits set would look something like:
1. "Jesus, Take The Wheel" 2. "Before He Cheats" 3. "Wasted" 4. "So Small" 5. "Last Name" 6. "Just A Dream" 7. "I Told You So" duet version 8. "Cowboy Casanova" 9. "Temporary Home" 10. "Undo It" 11. "Remind Me" 12. "Good Girl" 13. "Blown Away" 14. "Two Black Cadillacs" 15. New song 16. New song
And considering the popularity of "I Know You Want" in concert and her various versions of "How Great Thou Art," she could even throw those in there (though I don't know what she would cut). Really, she's prime for a hits set.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 22, 2013 15:22:58 GMT -5
I wonder what Carrie will perform at the CMAs, then. If there ends up being a single for a GH I guess that's possible, but I am thinking "surprises" just refers to things like the Emmys performance. If that's the case, I hope we get a BA album track and not "SYA." I can see her doing "Cupid" since Brad will be there.
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 22, 2013 18:17:01 GMT -5
I want her to have another couple of massive eras and THEN release a 2 CD GH compilation. It could include all her hits PLUS How Great Thou Art and I Know You Won't.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 22, 2013 18:45:54 GMT -5
^ By then CDs won't exist. I'm interested to see what happens with that, though, as there's no need to limit mp3s to a certain number of songs (but by having songs individually, people have them all anyway and can make their own GH).
Anyway did Amy Poehler just hijack the mic and interview Carrie? "Can we talk religion and politics and use some swear words as well?" LOL!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 22, 2013 20:50:23 GMT -5
That might have been the single worst performance I've seen by Carrie. She sounded terrible. WTH?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:08:19 GMT -5
That might have been the single worst performance I've seen by Carrie. She sounded terrible. WTH? Huh!?!? I think there's something wrong with your TV... I thought it was excellent. I'm fairly sure it was a flawless vocal, but I'll have to go back and watch it a few more times to confirm that. ... Yep, watched it back again, and I'm pretty sure it's perfect... Lol.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 22, 2013 21:24:24 GMT -5
That might have been the single worst performance I've seen by Carrie. She sounded terrible. WTH? Huh!?!? I think there's something wrong with your TV... I thought it was excellent. I'm fairly sure it was a flawless vocal, but I'll have to go back and watch it a few more times to confirm that. ... Yep, watched it back again, and I'm pretty sure it's perfect... Lol. She was "pitchy," and the song/performance was just so random.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:31:58 GMT -5
Huh!?!? I think there's something wrong with your TV... I thought it was excellent. I'm fairly sure it was a flawless vocal, but I'll have to go back and watch it a few more times to confirm that. ... Yep, watched it back again, and I'm pretty sure it's perfect... Lol. She was "pitchy," and the song/performance was just so random. The only pitch issue was the opening note... The rest was literally perfect. I have my bass off, treble all the way up, and can't find any other issues besides the first note. And it was a tribute to the Beatles commemorating 50 years since their rise to popularity, while also marking the importance of the television. There literally is no better song for that than "Yesterday", which has an overall message of nostalgia... kinda like perfect, if you ask me? Edit: I did find some issues pitch-wish at the end as well... But I wouldn't rank it as terrible as you're saying... lol.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Sept 22, 2013 21:55:28 GMT -5
She looked fantastic, but she sounded pitchy on the beginning. Still a great performance.
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Post by neally on Sept 22, 2013 22:10:30 GMT -5
Such a strange, random performance and song choice, lol. I wasn't a fan of the performance, especially the opening and ending:
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 22, 2013 22:21:25 GMT -5
The performance itself was random, I thought it was from the announcement last week... But why is the song choice strange? I thought it fit quite well with the whole package/dedication thing they were doing.
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Post by Typo on Sept 22, 2013 23:17:25 GMT -5
Wait. That was gorgeous and literally the only good thing about the Emmys.
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Post by spencer on Sept 23, 2013 6:11:44 GMT -5
I've listened to Carries performance several times. It was understated, heartfelt and sensitively delivered. Exactly what the moment required. Congratulations Carrie, you looked elegant, and sounded superb !
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 23, 2013 8:20:16 GMT -5
The performance itself was random, I thought it was from the announcement last week... But why is the song choice strange? I thought it fit quite well with the whole package/dedication thing they were doing. It's a song about a break-up. How does that fit with the important moments of television? More appropriate Beatles songs include "In My Life," "The Long And Winding Road," etc. But I also just didn't get the segment in general. What did The Beatles have to do with the power of TV news? I didn't get it. Here is what EW.com said:
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Post by QAF on Sept 23, 2013 8:52:38 GMT -5
Definitely not her best performance.
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Post by spencer on Sept 23, 2013 8:52:53 GMT -5
Actually Yesterday is about Paul's aunt who apparently played a major role in his upbringing, who passed away due to some illness. In general, the song can refer to many different kinds of losses; death expected and otherwise, friendships and innocence .
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 23, 2013 8:59:13 GMT -5
I would have rather heard another song... But I didn't think it was terrible. Well whatever the case, bring on TSOM!!!
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Post by QAF on Sept 23, 2013 9:02:09 GMT -5
Carrie did look beautiful as always.
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Post by what on Sept 23, 2013 11:02:23 GMT -5
But I also just didn't get the segment in general. What did The Beatles have to do with the power of TV news? I didn't get it. maybe it didnt make sense to you, but to the baby boomers it did. The transition of the jfk coverage to the beatles on ed sullivan show was an important moment for tv during those times. And the beatles performing on ed sullivan show to a screaming contingent of fans opened the way for new musical acts to perform (and get "discovered") on tv. something that seems very ordinary nowadays, and probably why it doesnt make sense for the new generation to appreciate. maybe a better song could be picked, but the segment itself wasnt way out of line.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 23, 2013 12:27:39 GMT -5
But I also just didn't get the segment in general. What did The Beatles have to do with the power of TV news? I didn't get it. maybe it didnt make sense to you, but to the baby boomers it did. The transition of the jfk coverage to the beatles on ed sullivan show was an important moment for tv during those times. And the beatles performing on ed sullivan show to a screaming contingent of fans opened the way for new musical acts to perform (and get "discovered") on tv. something that seems very ordinary nowadays, and probably why it doesnt make sense for the new generation to appreciate. maybe a better song could be picked, but the segment itself wasnt way out of line. But they didn't make that connection; why not show clips of how prevalent music performances are now? They could have at least shown that in the background behind Carrie (I thought it was odd she was stationary with nothing behind her). And it's not like tragedy in the news ended with JFK. I think a lot of my issue just has to do with how terribly produced the show was in general. Those random "In Memorium" things were bad because it was a depressing moment every 30-45 minutes. They handed out all of the major TV show awards by 10:00, so from 10-11 it was sort of pointless. The opening was awful up until Kevin Spacey and then Tina/Amy killed their parts. Maybe what would have worked better is if the segment Carrie did flowed into the traditional In Memorium thing with her singing "Yesterday" over it. Then it would have gotten all of that presented in one section as opposed to spread out, and the song itself would have worked better.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Sept 23, 2013 18:42:52 GMT -5
maybe it didnt make sense to you, but to the baby boomers it did. The transition of the jfk coverage to the beatles on ed sullivan show was an important moment for tv during those times. And the beatles performing on ed sullivan show to a screaming contingent of fans opened the way for new musical acts to perform (and get "discovered") on tv. something that seems very ordinary nowadays, and probably why it doesnt make sense for the new generation to appreciate. maybe a better song could be picked, but the segment itself wasnt way out of line. But they didn't make that connection; They did. Don Cheadle's entire speech prior to Carrie's performance made that connection. From CMT: www.cmt.com/news/cmt-offstage/1714469/carrie-underwood-believes-in-yesterday.jhtml
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 24, 2013 11:44:50 GMT -5
I am still against Carrie releasing a GH album yet, but if a GH coming out soon means we get some new material early in 2014 rather than late 2014/early 2015 then I am all for the GH album. I don't want to wait 10 more months for new Carrie music, so if a GH album is released in February/March, that will help us all with the wait for album #5.
Requirements if this happens though: Oklahoma Wind and a epic re-recorded version of How Great Thou Art (Girls Night Out version) need to be on it with a couple other new songs.
I would also love to see Carrie re-record some of her older songs (particularly the Some Hearts era) since her voice has developed throughout the years since her beginning and I'd love to hear how she belts Wasted and Jesus Take the Wheel in the studio now. Also, I wouldn't be opposed to "Jesus Take The Wheel/How Great Thou Art" to be on the GH album.
Regardless of what's happening, it sounds like we are going to be getting something from Carrie soon. If the recording for TSOM means there is going to be a soundtrack album, then I am going to be a happy fan. Plus it sounds like she has something else scheming around that we may find out about "soon".
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 24, 2013 16:55:40 GMT -5
I just think that is all a stretch, and I don't think "Yesterday" was the right song. I also thought it was a flat vocal - both technically in spots and emotionally - from Carrie. It's ok if others feel differently.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 7:29:03 GMT -5
I'm all for a GH album. Bring it on.
My track listing:
1. Jesus, Take the Wheel 2. Before He Cheats 3. Wasted 4. So Small 5. All-American Girl 6. Last Name 7. Just a Dream 8. I Told You So 9. Cowboy Casanova 10. Temporary Home 11. Undo It 12. Remind Me 13. Good Girl 14. Blown Away 15. Two Black Cadillacs 16. See You Again 17. How Great Thou Art (new studio version) 18. Oklahoma Wind 19. *New Song* 20. *New Song*
Perfect, imo. If there's enough room, throw in IKYW too.
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