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Post by marv1978 on May 2, 2010 11:57:33 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :)
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Post by marv1978 on May 2, 2010 11:59:50 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :) oh and in the music biz,people like pat and how rob thomas used to be,just laugh it off when people don't know them just there songs. it tells them the song is the most important thing not how big u are in the tabloids lol
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Post by zarasthustra on May 2, 2010 23:24:08 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :) Don't forget Free.. which not only was their first big crossover hit when crossover was a dirty word... pre lady Antebellum.. you make me feel like the drill Sargent from forest gump when I say How did you get so damn brilliant ? Pat is about to have ( I know I am getting repetitive) 5 songs charting simultaneously.. you could read about the tipping point cause he is there... and guess what... he likes Kris.. If I was Kris this is right where I'd want to be.. I wish they started this song on the CHR chart but as most of pat's hits it might have to work it's way up on hot ac and then spend 30 + weeks on pop.. reeling in the download cash and spin count in the process... bummer!! The disrespect for Pat has worked to Train's benefit.. maybe it will do the same for Kris ... maybe this is a stopping off point for Kris's career to go through the roof.. all I know is that truly gifted artists are rarely recognized for their brilliance within the limited time frame that the industry allocates for their careers.. within their lifetime..Pretty mindblowing when you consider he is known as that guy from Train
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Post by Kworb on May 3, 2010 6:43:20 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :) For being "one of the best vocalists of the decade" he sure does an extremely poor job singing this song's bridge.
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Post by gato on May 3, 2010 12:12:11 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :) For being "one of the best vocalists of the decade" he sure does an extremely poor job singing this song's bridge. ITA. And for the record... I'm getting worn out on all these songs coming out with 'featuring (insert name here)'. Why can't these labels just let us hear he actual artist instead of trying to shoe horn people into songs.
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Post by crazychick on May 3, 2010 17:47:25 GMT -5
Off to a good start -- The Truth got 9 Hot AC adds today -- tied for 4th most of any song in that format.
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Post by marv1978 on May 3, 2010 19:31:25 GMT -5
i think the single is good,not the best choice...but sometimes these songs don't burn out as fast if the aren't super catchy off first listen. but as for pat monahan from train,i mean if i was kris i'd be honored to have one of the best vocalists of the decade and the guy who wrote "meet virginia", "drops of jupiter", "calling all angels", "when i look to the sky", "get to me", "cab", "her eyes", "hey,soul sister" and now "if it's love" to be on my song too imo :) For being "one of the best vocalists of the decade" he sure does an extremely poor job singing this song's bridge. i don't hear any sour off key pitchy notes at all,and i would think jives producer who makes millions of dollars would make sure of that b4 the final mix lol
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Post by trei1658 on May 3, 2010 19:34:53 GMT -5
The Truth ended up with 9 HAC adds today. So it is off to a good start. I even heard it online @ KLLC and they introduced it as new music from Kris Allen. The didn't mention Pat until after the song finished.
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Post by ZAYN on May 3, 2010 22:49:43 GMT -5
So far so good I guess.
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Post by crazychick on May 6, 2010 11:39:21 GMT -5
Can someone who has access to the full mediabase Hot AC charts pot daily updates on how this song is doing? I saw the other day that it was at No. 85? But on All-Access they only show the Top 50 in any format and I don't have access to the mediabase site where you can get the more in-depth info.
Thanks!
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Post by trei1658 on May 6, 2010 15:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by ZAYN on May 7, 2010 14:31:25 GMT -5
Any sign of airplay? lol
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Post by crazychick on May 7, 2010 14:51:21 GMT -5
Float On
Actually, yes there is. On All-Access they have a chart called "spincrease" that shows the biggest movers in the various formats? The Truth is on that chart. The first number is move (or increase in spins) over the last 7 days, the second is the number of stations that have spun it.
HOT AC SPINCREASE
MOVE STATIONS KRIS ALLEN The Truth 61 17
More info. Please note this is not the full list of stations tht has played the song -- just what is listed on two separate charts (''leaders" and "starters") on All-Access
Station Market Format TW lw Move ovn am mid pm eve Aud KLLC-FM San Francisco Hot AC 24 10 14 6 2 5 5 6 0.223 WPST-FM Trenton, NJ Hot AC 9 2 7 9 0 0 0 0 0.002 KZZU-FM Spokane Hot AC 8 0 8 3 0 2 1 2 0.015 WQAL-FM Cleveland Hot AC 7 0 7 0 0 0 0 7 0.033 KURB-FM Little Rock Hot AC 5 0 5 5 0 0 0 0 0.003 KCIX-FM Boise, ID Hot AC 4 0 4 2 0 1 1 0 0.006 KLTG-FM Corpus Christi, Hot AC 3 0 3 1 0 0 1 1 0.003 WAHR-FM Huntsville Hot AC 3 0 3 1 0 1 1 0 0.004 KSCF-FM San Diego Hot AC 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0.006 KWYE-FM Fresno Hot AC 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0.003 WTIC-FM Hartford Hot AC 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0.001 KPEK-FM Albuquerque Hot AC 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 0.001
In addition has won several of those new music song challenges that radio stations do, so that should increase the spins.
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Post by ZAYN on May 7, 2010 20:11:00 GMT -5
Nice, that looks pretty good to me! Looks like 3 new stations since the 9 adds earlier this week.
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Post by crazychick on May 10, 2010 13:13:33 GMT -5
The Truth got 107 spins this past week. And it has gotten 2 automatic adds today, from stations in Cleveland and Little Rock. If it can pick up a couple of more adds, it should crack the Top 50 chart next week (#50 song got 189 spins this past week)
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Post by desertfloods on May 10, 2010 15:15:13 GMT -5
WPLJ New York added this.
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Post by crazychick on May 10, 2010 15:37:10 GMT -5
Good news!! WPLJ, the Hot AC station (or one of them anyway) in New York City just officially added The Truth.
Kris has gotten 4 new adds total so far today -- NYC, Cleveland, Little Rock and Bakersfield
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Post by crazychick on May 10, 2010 17:54:35 GMT -5
update: make it 8 new adds today
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Post by ZAYN on May 10, 2010 18:26:53 GMT -5
Not bad!
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Post by eternalblue81 on May 11, 2010 0:13:49 GMT -5
update: make it 8 new adds today Where do you get 8? I only saw 7. Oh, and The Truth featuring "That Guy From Train" is now up on iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-truth-feat-pat-monahan/id370208610The bio there for Kris says that LLWD "peaked at number 89 on the singles charts". LOL. They didn't make it very clear that that was what it peaked at on Hot 100 the first full week it was out and didn't say anything about its eventual peaks on any other charts.
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Post by desertfloods on May 11, 2010 1:39:58 GMT -5
Where do you get 8? I only saw 7. You need to click on "Combined Reporter Mode" to see the 8th add.
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Post by eternalblue81 on May 11, 2010 6:16:57 GMT -5
You need to click on "Combined Reporter Mode" to see the 8th add. Thanks!
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Post by crazychick on May 11, 2010 22:11:03 GMT -5
Kris fans on twitter banded together to try and get #theTruth to trend in support of the fact the song was released for sale. And they did a good job -- it was the #2 trend on twitter for awhile this afternoon
Meanwhile, The Truth has cracked the Top 100 on the overall itunes chart, sitting at #97. Not bad considering it hasn't gotten any promotion and just a small amount of radio airplay so far. It got an additional 8 adds this week, and is listed as "taking off" on the All-Access Hot AC page.
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Post by zarasthustra on May 11, 2010 23:56:46 GMT -5
Hopefully Pat Monahan and the Train's fan base don't screw it up for him. Thank goodness the Kris Allen fans were able to accomplish all of that. Train has a hard time getting airplay on Hot AC... It's weird that the Pat Monahan version of the Truth (which he penned) is outselling the Kris Allen version. Crazy.. since it was not necessary to have Pat on the track even though he wrote it! Love you Kris but your fans are an unfortunate example of what most people fight hard never to become.
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Post by sammalone on May 12, 2010 0:31:44 GMT -5
Train has a hard time getting airplay on Hot AC... It's weird that the Pat Monahan version of the Truth (which he penned) is outselling the Kris Allen version. Crazy.. Am I in bizarro world or something? HAC is Train's home, and of course TT feat. Pat is selling more because it was just released.
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Post by earache on May 12, 2010 2:19:07 GMT -5
I like this song. It'll be fun to follow its progress here and hopefully, it'll be released to CHR soon. Says that it'll be sent for adds in Pop in May TBD so it has to happen in the next 20 days. But it's already gotten its 1st Pop add.
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Post by zarasthustra on May 12, 2010 3:47:21 GMT -5
Train has a hard time getting airplay on Hot AC... It's weird that the Pat Monahan version of the Truth (which he penned) is outselling the Kris Allen version. Crazy.. Am I in bizarro world or something? HAC is Train's home, and of course TT feat. Pat is selling more because it was just released. It's Sarcasm Sammie.. but I appreciate your recognition of the irony!
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Post by crazychick on May 12, 2010 11:29:00 GMT -5
#86 on iTunes overall chart!
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Post by earache on May 13, 2010 2:17:31 GMT -5
#71 on iTunes overall chart now.
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Post by wastedtime on May 13, 2010 18:06:05 GMT -5
I don't think it ever got to #71 on iTunes. Not sure what chart you got that from or maybe it was a different song, idk. The highest this song has been so far is in the mid 80's.
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