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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 24, 2014 17:58:39 GMT -5
^Disappointing.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Mar 4, 2014 8:37:45 GMT -5
Yea, that's definitely disappointing. It's not very common that an artist gets inducted and doesn't show up/perform....posthumous inductees aside, obviously.
I suppose the KISS fans are just satisfied that they're finally in.
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Post by imbondz on Mar 5, 2014 0:44:01 GMT -5
Can't stand Kiss. Yuck
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 11:29:13 GMT -5
Gene and Paul are so fucking childish omg just play with Ace and Peter and quit your whining
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 22, 2014 10:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 22, 2014 15:13:54 GMT -5
That's sour grapes of an act who hasn't been recognized.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Apr 8, 2014 14:35:23 GMT -5
20 Artists Eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Next
Year Eligible: 2015 Debut Album: Mariah Carey Why She Should Be Inducted: Aside from holding the Guinness World Records for the Biggest Record Deal and Most Consecutive Weeks at Number One for a single at one point or another, Carey has reportedly sold more than 200 million records worldwide and has had more Number One songs than any other solo artist. Over the past two decades, she's claimed the Top Spot more times than Elvis. Possible Drama: None, as long as no one flips the script if and when she is inducted. Last year, Carey issued a "diva in distress" missive apologizing for one of her employees posting the wrong mix of her new single "The Art of Letting Go." "There's no doubt in my mind that this sounds like a self-absorbed diva on a 'woe-is-me' tangent about a couple of adlibs or some other triviality," she wrote, "but the reality is this is me, focusing solely on the record, wanting you to hear it and experience it the right way." Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/20-artists-eligible-for-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-next-20140408/mariah-carey-19691231#ixzz2yK9ndHxT ;)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 8, 2014 17:00:59 GMT -5
Apparently, Rolling Stone (or at least the writer) doesn't know that commercial success isn't a major factor in induction. I don't think Mimi will be a first-year nominee. In any event, acts who released their first single/album in 1989 are the next ones eligible (2014 for 2015 induction). EDIT: I see that RS has "Next" on the header, but it's acts who become eligible over the next several years.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 10, 2014 14:53:32 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/6042278/why-rock-hall-inductees-are-not-getting-the-royaltiesWhy Rock Hall Inductees Are Not Getting The Royalties They Deserve (Guest Post)By Michael Huppe, SoundExchange | April 10, 2014 Michael Huppe is the CEO and President of SoundExchange, a non-profit digital performance rights organization that collects royalties for artists and copyright holders. As someone who was raised in the era of classic rock, I am thrilled to be attending this year’s Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. Growing up, music was such an important factor in my life, and now as an adult, I am fortunate to have a career in the business. Unfortunately, not everyone in our industry seems to share such respect for these icons. As we honor those whose music helped shape rock and roll, it is difficult for me to reconcile the fact that some digital radio services have cut off royalty payments to artists' pre-1972 work – which includes work by half of this year’s inductees. Based on satellite radio giant SiriusXM and Pandora’s interpretation of copyright law, which they say allows them to use music recorded prior to 1972 for free, three of the six performers being inducted into the Hall of Fame are not getting the digital royalty payments they rightfully deserve. New inductees Peter Gabriel, Linda Ronstadt and Cat Stevens all began their careers well before 1972. Under Pandora and SiriusXM’s view of the law, anything these artists recorded prior to 1972 – music like “Wild World” originally recorded by Cat Stevens and released in 1970 – can be played without compensation. Meanwhile, covers of these same recordings by Garth Brooks and Matt Nathanson do receive royalties. Fortunately for fellow inductees Kiss and Hall & Oates, who released their first tracks just months after the arbitrary date of February 15, 1972, they are paid for all their hits. If Hall & Oates had recorded their album just nine months prior to their November 1972 release, they too would be honored – but apparently not valued – by these billion dollar companies. In a similar refrain, the Recording Academy’s prestigious GRAMMY Hall of Fame recently announced its 40th Anniversary inductees. As always, 2014 inductees represent influential and historically significant recordings. Of the 27 new inductees, 22 of them produced award-winning recordings before 1972. This includes legends like Neil Young, George Harrison, James Brown and B.B. King. They, too, will be short-changed by digital radio. In 2013 alone, musicians and record labels with pre-1972 sound recordings lost an estimated $60 million in royalties. This figure is especially important when you consider that many of the musicians featured on pre-1972 recordings are no longer touring, selling merchandise, or cutting new records. These legendary artists, that we rightfully honor, are the foundation of the music we listen to today. Their creations are woven inextricably into the fabric of American culture. This music brings back memories of the first dance at our wedding, the “theme-song” from our senior year, the very first album we purchased. But they represent more than just memories – they helped launch social movements, incited powerful change and highlighted injustice. Yet, as we honor and treasure these artists, their work is being devalued everyday by SiriusXM and Pandora. This is not fair. It makes no sense to honor these musical legends at a banquet dinner, yet deny them fair pay for their work. Ask any artist today who stands on the shoulders of these giants and they will tell you that the artists who inspired their work should get a fair shake from digital radio. We should show respect for our roots and stand up for our music heroes. This is why we are asking Congress to protect the rights of these legacy artists by ensuring that the government license these digital radio services use treat all sound recordings the same. At SoundExchange, we strongly believe that all artists, from all eras, should be paid for their work. It’s a matter of simple fairness to offer equal treatment for all sound recordings. We are right to honor these creators – but let’s make sure we properly value them as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 8:47:38 GMT -5
I just saw a photo from last night of Courtney Love and Dave Grohl hugging each other. As a huge fan of both that made me sooo happy. Glad they were classy enough to finally bury the hatchet, unlike some OTHER band mates who were inducted last night.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 22, 2014 21:43:58 GMT -5
It's getting to be that time... The year is 1989 www.futurerocklegends.com/future_eligibles.phpFuture Eligibility Dates for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame The artists listed below will first become eligible for the Rock Hall 25 years after the release of their first record (LP, EP or single). 3rd Bass After 7 Alan Jackson Alannah Myles Ani DiFranco Athiest Babes in Toyland Barenaked Ladies Beautiful South Better Than Ezra Big Head Todd and the Monsters Bob Mould Buffalo Tom Cathy Dennis Cherry Poppin' Daddies Christopher Williams Clive Griffin Dangerous Toys DJ Magic Mike Doro Dream Theater Enuff Z'nuff Evildead Extreme Gang Starr Garth Brooks Gin Blossoms Green Day Jane Child Jawbreaker Jesus Jones Lenny Kravitz Lush Manic Street Preachers Maria McKee Masta Ace Michael Penn Mother Love Bone Mr. Big Neneh Cherry Nine Inch Nails No Use for a Name Obituary The Ocean Blue The Orb Ottmar Liebert Pavement Phantom Blue Porcupine Tree Queen Latifah Sarah McLachlan Saraya Sebadoh Selena Shakespear's Sister Sick of It All Skid Row Slint The Sundays Superchunk Technotronic Texas Toad the Wet Sprocket Tom Petty Unsane Urge Overkill Warrant XYZ Young MC
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Post by imbondz on Aug 23, 2014 7:07:58 GMT -5
Don't really see any on that list to make it
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 23, 2014 14:30:59 GMT -5
Don't really see any on that list to make it I think Green Day is a lock. NIN and Lenny Kravitz could conceivably make it in but it would probably take a few tries (especially Lenny, if he ever gets in at all).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 23, 2014 16:42:31 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Green Day didn't make it onto the nominee list this year.
Will the Hall nominate Tom Petty as a soloist, like it has with other frontmen who went solo? Even solo, though, he never really broke from the Heartbreakers, so perhaps not.
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Post by Gary on Aug 23, 2014 17:15:59 GMT -5
Re; Tom Petty's non-Heartbreakers stuff, I would put the Wilburys in first
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Post by imbondz on Aug 23, 2014 21:54:06 GMT -5
Don't really see any on that list to make it I think Green Day is a lock. NIN and Lenny Kravitz could conceivably make it in but it would probably take a few tries (especially Lenny, if he ever gets in at all). I'm sure they'll get in but I don't think they warrant it
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 24, 2014 13:59:38 GMT -5
^Why not? The band is regarded pretty well.
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Post by imbondz on Aug 26, 2014 22:29:44 GMT -5
because I remember when Green Day first came out back in the 90's. They haven't done enough to warrant Hall of Fame admission. They had 1-2 big albums, but nothing ground breaking. Just think it's weird if they get in. And Lenny Kravitz? I forget he's even a musician. I think of him more as an actor now. He made some good music, but not enough to be hall of fame in my opinion.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Aug 27, 2014 4:26:10 GMT -5
Green Day is a lock for the first ballot. Nine Inch Nails has a chance, but not quite as strong. Those two acts are the only true clear front-runners.
The Nomination Committee will convene at the end of September/early October to begin their deliberations. Let the politics ensue....
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 27, 2014 7:24:45 GMT -5
imbondz, but "big albums" isn't what it's about, if you're talking about commercial success.
Will this be the year the committee stops taking Damita Jo Jackson's advice of "Let's Wait Awhile" and nominate her? Don't let it go beyond eight years of waiting. (I think the day will eventually come, but maybe just not yet.)
On a related note, here are some notable acts still not in the Hall of Fame, with 10+ years of eligibility:
NOTE: The Rock Hall started in 1986, so the highest number of years of eligibility would be 29; the Future Rock Legends site hasn't calculated to reflect that for some acts, hence the ones with more than 29.
The worthiness of some of these may be questionable, but that is for another discussion. On the same page as the snubs is a list of acts who should be considered as early influences (i.e. Patsy Cline), not listed with the ones below.
The B-52s: 10 years Bad Company: 15 Barry White: 16 Big Star: 17 Björk: 12 (eligibility based on release of 1977 album) Blacl Flag: 11 The Buzzcocks: 12 Can: 21 The Carpenters: 20 The Cars: 11 Cheap Trick: 12 Chic: 12 Chicago: 20 Connie Francis: 31 The Cure: 11 The Dead Kennedys: 10 Deep Purple: 21 Def Leppard: 10 Devo: 12 Dick Dale: 27 Dire Straits: 11 The Doobie Brothers: 18 Electric Light Orchestra: 18 Emerson, Lake & Palmer: 19 Gram Parsons: 22 Harry Nilsson: 22 Iron Maiden: 10 The Jam: 12 Jan & Dean: 29 Jethro Tull: 21 Jim Croce: 23 Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio: 33 Journey: 14 Joy Division: 11 Judas Priest: 15 Kate Bush: 11 King Crimson: 20 Kraftwerk: 19 Link Wray: 31 Love: 23 The Marvelettes: 28 Mary Wells: 28 MC5: 23 The Monkees: 23 The Moody Blues: 25 Motörhead: 12 New York Dolls: 16 Nick Drake: 20 Peter, Paul & Mary: 27 Procol Harum: 22 Roxy Music: 17 The Runaways: 13 Scott Walker: 23 Silver Apples: 21 Siouxsie & the Banshees: Suicide: 12 T. Rex: 21 Television: 14 Thin Lizzy: 18 Tommy James & the Shondells: 23 War: 18 Warren Zevon: 20 "Weird Al" Yankovic: 10 X: 11 XTC: 12 Yes: 20 The Zombies: 25 Sparks: 18 The Specials: 10 The Spinners: 28 Steppenwolf: 21 Steve Miller Band: 21
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Aug 28, 2014 16:10:05 GMT -5
^ As always, I'll keep my fingers crossed for Janet's nomination and there's an increasing swell of support for a nomination, but not holding my breath.
I've been in contact with some 'experts' and they're predicting that Janet will be nominated in 2015. The upcoming Rock Hall ceremony is in a tiny venue this year in Cleveland. The next year it's moving to a bigger venue in LA or NYC. They'll need a big name to goose ticket sales ..... thus their hunch that Janet will get a nomination that year. Not sure I'm buying into that, but it is a theory.
Who knows, though? You gotta love the politics. (or not)
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Aug 28, 2014 16:45:36 GMT -5
...let just keep our fingers crossed.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 29, 2014 7:32:46 GMT -5
I don't know if ceremony location would play a big role, but who knows. There are big names from the past who have yet to be nominated/inducted, after all.
But, say what you will about the first couple of albums, and 2001-on, but her body of work from 1986-1997 surely is Hall-worthy.
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Post by Green Baron on Sept 2, 2014 11:12:54 GMT -5
Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater need to make it in. They're the only worthy ones out of the whole bunch.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 2, 2014 12:48:41 GMT -5
Don't really see any on that list to make it I think Green Day is a lock. NIN and Lenny Kravitz could conceivably make it in but it would probably take a few tries (especially Lenny, if he ever gets in at all). What has Lenny Kravtiz done to merit inclusion? I think Green Day is deserving. They've had longevity, influence, and even variety. I think one can argue they had more long-term influence than Nirvana (when bands like Sum 41 and others were big, it was off the Green Day model).
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Post by rudeboy on Sept 2, 2014 13:32:05 GMT -5
When do we get the ballot ?
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Post by Caviar on Sept 2, 2014 13:43:30 GMT -5
^^ Mid-Oct..
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 2, 2014 16:46:34 GMT -5
Baron- I can't imagine Porcupine Tree or Dream Theater being considered. Green Day, surely; Nine Inch Nails, perhaps later on.
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Post by Green Baron on Sept 2, 2014 16:47:10 GMT -5
Baron- I can't imagine Porcupine Tree or Dream Theater being considered in the near future. Green Day, surely; Nine Inch Nails, perhaps later on. The problem is they're not popular, but they're practically the saviors of modern prog.
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