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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 21:22:24 GMT -5
LOve Plastic, Shania is not pop or country and thats what sets her apart. She created her own genre and doens't belong anywhere. She is all genres. And Shania set the standard for best selling female cd of alltime and that is a fact. I never said Shania was more of an influence on the pop scene. Shania rarely does interviews and never cators to any one genre. Thats what sets her apart. yeah, let me know when shania has a hit that's something other than country (crossing over to AC). until then, she's not "all" genres. dont get me wrong, i love shania. and her achievements in COUNTRY music will never go unnoticed. and i think she helped create the pop/country genre that seems to be slowly dying lately. and everyone and their mother has Come On Over... but one huge cd does not an icon make. i think shania will live on to become more of a "tina turner icon" rather than an "aretha franklin icon." 1 huge CD does not an icon make perhaps but, 4 certainly does(with 2 over 10 million). Woman in Me was 12x platinum we all know about Come On Over Up was 11x platinum (2 disc set) Greatest Hits sold 3.5 million Multiple versions of Come On Over and Up! were released in multiple genres Up! was released in 3 different formats
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 21:37:01 GMT -5
In staying with the thread topic
Shania Twain moves 4116 copies of Greatest Hits this week, placing it just outside the top 200 for a sales total of 3,486,680
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Post by potter66 on Aug 3, 2006 23:30:50 GMT -5
Jamaicafunk, maybe do your research instead of sounding foolish. Shania's COO cd had many top 10 pop hits from it and also country and ac.. Shania is the first woman in history with back to back diamond massive selling albums. Shania has made her mark in history as an icon nomatter what you say. She is a brand name worldwide and her music is famous all over the world. Even her Shania by Stetson perfume is one of the top selling perfumes on the market.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 3, 2006 23:32:29 GMT -5
Here we go...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 0:09:29 GMT -5
On the topic of multiple formats for Shania Twain, in addition to the obvious ones (Hot 100 & the various top 40 charts & the Country singles chart & the AC & adult charts), Shania Twain has also appeared on:
Latin Pop Airplay (#12) with 'You're Still The One' Latin Tropical/Salsa Airplay (#15) with 'You're Still The One' Hot Latin Tracks (#37) with 'You're Still The One' Hot Dance Music Sales (#3) with 'You're Still The One'
Hot Dance Music/Club Play (#25) with 'It's Alright'
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Post by Pulse on Aug 4, 2006 0:33:59 GMT -5
Shania has also appeared on the Rhythmic chart. Looks like besides Country, HAC, AC and Pop, she has also make an impact on Latin, Dance, and Urban
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Post by Pulse on Aug 4, 2006 0:36:51 GMT -5
I wonder if people bought PCD for "Buttons" and realized it doesn't have Snoop Dogg on it. I'm wondering that too! Especially since sales went back to the Top 10. I can imagine tons of consumers buying the album for Buttons after hearing it on the radio or watching the video, and then being pissed off when they realize Snoop isnt there.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 4, 2006 0:56:40 GMT -5
That's why you're supposed to look at the back of the CD and notice whether or not it says "Buttons" feat. Snoop Dogg.
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Post by Pulse on Aug 4, 2006 1:09:11 GMT -5
Featured credits arent always listed on the back. And anyway, I doubt most customers are going to be like "WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe Snoop isnt on this CD. I better cross examine this CD throughly"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 1:16:42 GMT -5
The Snoop version was an after the fact remix, made for radio & singles, that was not there when the album was first released.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 4, 2006 2:02:05 GMT -5
Featured credits arent always listed on the back. And anyway, I doubt most customers are going to be like "WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe Snoop isnt on this CD. I better cross examine this CD throughly" So they're gonna put "Don't Cha" feat. Busta Rhymes on the back and "Beep" feat. will.i.am and then accidentally forgot to put "Buttons" feat. Snoop Dogg?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 2:12:57 GMT -5
I'll try this again
Beep (remix)- the Snoop Dogg version was recorded and released in 2006
Beep - the album version featuring Will.I.Am was released in 2005.
The Snoop Dogg mix was not done until it was decided to release Beep as a single
Clearly a mix done especially for the single release
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Post by shoegazer on Aug 4, 2006 2:21:03 GMT -5
By the way, RIAA.com has updated its searchable database [http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/default.asp] with latest certifications... Strange things: - Digital singles certifications: I thought the new rules we're in, as Bad Day, Dont Cha and You're Beautiful have been recerticied to Platinum, but what about all those Jack Johnson singles, for example, have they sold that much?? - Look at this cert.: HOOBASTANK EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF 06/21/06 ISLAND G ALBUM GROUP Std So, they shipped 500,000 units, and sold... 148,432? Wow!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 2:25:27 GMT -5
Featured credits arent always listed on the back. And anyway, I doubt most customers are going to be like "WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe Snoop isnt on this CD. I better cross examine this CD throughly" So they're gonna put "Don't Cha" feat. Busta Rhymes on the back and "Beep" feat. will.i.am and then accidentally forgot to put "Buttons" feat. Snoop Dogg? No, The Snoop Dogg mix didn't exist when the album was released
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Post by music on Aug 5, 2006 17:29:25 GMT -5
Jamaicafunk, maybe do your research instead of sounding foolish. Shania's COO cd had many top 10 pop hits from it and also country and ac.. Shania is the first woman in history with back to back diamond massive selling albums. Shania has made her mark in history as an icon nomatter what you say. She is a brand name worldwide and her music is famous all over the world. Even her Shania by Stetson perfume is one of the top selling perfumes on the market. Shania is *NOT* an icon, sorry...
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Post by music on Aug 5, 2006 17:42:31 GMT -5
Shania is all genres and that sets her apart. Shania is a music icon and her music is not pop or country and thats what sets her apart. Her HUSBAND prodcues her music and she has never written anything interesting in her life. Hardly an ICON She is country/pop, end of discussion, a crossover artist. And that doesn't set her apart from Madonna, who has done all of the following genres at one time or another: Pop (both Light Pop and more mature Pop) Dance Dance/Pop Broadway/Musical Adult Contemporary R&B Neo-Soul Rap Hip-Hop Latin Disco Techno Electronica World Music & songs in foreign languages Retro, etc...
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Post by music on Aug 5, 2006 17:45:41 GMT -5
Maddona is not the template for females. Until Madonna sells over 38 million of one album like Shania. IN fact Shania is the first woman in history with back to back diamond albums. And Shania's GH has has scanned 3.5 million in a year and a half and it takes a long time for GH cd's to accumilate its total sales and even more so in todays climate of down loading. Not that I even have to say this, but impact and influence go far beyond sales. And there is a laundry list of chart and sales feats of Madonna's that Shania will never touch, so let's not even go there ;)
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 5, 2006 17:59:05 GMT -5
Not that I even have to say this, but impact and influence go far beyond sales. I think thats the point I was trying to make-tons of artists have sold a lot, even over 4-5 cd releases. That doesnt make them cultural icons. Music icons...I will say Shania is one. But is her influence as far reaching as Madonna? Dont think so...or multiple other artists. Not that she has anything ever to be ashamed of-she is in the top 1% of all successful artists. No need to be so defensive about her success or reach.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 18:04:10 GMT -5
Shania Twain's list of chart's her songs have been on were posted a bit earlier.
Because Shania Twain "hasn't written anything interesting in her life" isn't a reason for her being or not being an icon. The "interesting" aspect of her song writing is just your opinion,
There may be a "laundry list" of chart sales and feats that Madonna has accomplished that Shania Twain has not but, there are also a laundry list of feats that Shania Twain has accomplished that Madonna has not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 18:06:29 GMT -5
And what does any of this have to do with the weekly Billboard 200? (the thread title) Neither artist has much of an impact on the current chart.
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Post by music on Aug 5, 2006 18:59:52 GMT -5
Shania Twain's list of chart's her songs have been on were posted a bit earlier. Because Shania Twain "hasn't written anything interesting in her life" isn't a reason for her being or not being an icon. The "interesting" aspect of her song writing is just your opinion, There may be a "laundry list" of chart sales and feats that Madonna has accomplished that Shania Twain has not but, there are also a laundry list of feats that Shania Twain has accomplished that Madonna has not. No, not really. Shania's records center around one album, she can't touch Madonna, end of.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 19:03:24 GMT -5
Shania Twain's list of chart's her songs have been on were posted a bit earlier. Because Shania Twain "hasn't written anything interesting in her life" isn't a reason for her being or not being an icon. The "interesting" aspect of her song writing is just your opinion, There may be a "laundry list" of chart sales and feats that Madonna has accomplished that Shania Twain has not but, there are also a laundry list of feats that Shania Twain has accomplished that Madonna has not. No, not really. Shania's records center around one album, she can't touch Madonna, end of. Might want to do your homework a little better than that. 3 albums have reached diamond certification (yes Up! is a 2-disc set). The Greatest Hits album has sold 3.5 million. Many hits on multiple formats came from these albums. All I said was that Shania Twain has done things in the chart and sales category that Madonna has not. And I am also agreeing that Madonna has done things that Shania Twain has not.
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Post by music on Aug 5, 2006 19:36:48 GMT -5
Madonna has achieved much more on a commercial level, especially Internationally, nobody can deny that... And that doesn't even get to the issue of music quality and impact, in which Madonna wipes the floor with La Twain...
I don't care if Shania has 2 legitimate Diamond albums, so does Madonna... COO was as big as it was because her label milked it for all it was worth and released 8 singles from it over the course of 2 years. The # of records Madonna holds, anywhere in the world, is mindboggling and Shania can't even begin to match up.
I can't believe anyone is even bothering to debate this!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 19:55:56 GMT -5
Madonna has achieved much more on a commercial level, especially Internationally, nobody can deny that... And that doesn't even get to the issue of music quality and impact, in which Madonna wipes the floor with La Twain... I don't care if Shania has 2 legitimate Diamond albums, so does Madonna... COO was as big as it was because her label milked it for all it was worth and released 8 singles from it over the course of 2 years. The # of records Madonna holds, anywhere in the world, is mindboggling and Shania can't even begin to match up. I can't believe anyone is even bothering to debate this! I am not debating that Shania is better than Madonna or Madonna is better than Shania. Not once, did I say anything of the sort. Your statements about Shania Twain were erroneous and based on your own opinion of her music. That is what I am challenging
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Post by music on Aug 6, 2006 9:18:08 GMT -5
Look at the fact that Shania has NO respect in the Country music community or compare her reviews to Madonna's and she was you get...
Come back when Shania even ATTEMPTS something like "Mer Girl" or "Shanti/Ashtangi" or "Cyberraga" or "Frozen" or any other avant garde Madonna track...
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Post by winner2000 on Aug 6, 2006 10:58:46 GMT -5
Back to the BB200 for a second, do you guys think PCD would re-release the album with the Snoop remix?
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Post by Pulse on Aug 6, 2006 11:03:45 GMT -5
No, especially since theyre goign to release a new album soon
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Post by Skip To The End on Aug 6, 2006 11:28:42 GMT -5
Back to the BB200 for a second, do you guys think PCD would re-release the album with the Snoop remix? No cause they want people to buy the remix on I-tunes or in mix-single.
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Post by Love4Shania on Aug 6, 2006 12:31:01 GMT -5
Madonna has achieved much more on a commercial level, especially Internationally, nobody can deny that... And that doesn't even get to the issue of music quality and impact, in which Madonna wipes the floor with La Twain... I don't care if Shania has 2 legitimate Diamond albums, so does Madonna... COO was as big as it was because her label milked it for all it was worth and released 8 singles from it over the course of 2 years. The # of records Madonna holds, anywhere in the world, is mindboggling and Shania can't even begin to match up. I can't believe anyone is even bothering to debate this! Most of Madonna's music is synthesized garbage. Shania's songs are recorded with a real arrangement, they have heart and personality and behind them, and Shania is a much better vocalist then Madonna. Look at the fact that Shania has NO respect in the Country music community or compare her reviews to Madonna's and she was you get... Come back when Shania even ATTEMPTS something like "Mer Girl" or "Shanti/Ashtangi" or "Cyberraga" or "Frozen" or any other avant garde Madonna track... Shania has respect from the people in the country industry that matter, such as Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Loretta Lynn, Vince Gill etc. Why would Shania want to attempt any of Madonna's songs? that would be a step down.
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Post by music on Aug 6, 2006 12:33:46 GMT -5
Back to the BB200 for a second, do you guys think PCD would re-release the album with the Snoop remix? I think it's too late for a re-release.
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