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Post by sabre14 on Sept 10, 2014 11:07:32 GMT -5
For those that mentioned Andy Gibson earlier in this thread. Apparantley he's still alive & well at Curb Records per his post today: Andy Gibson, 3 mins , Ted and Ravi are helping me with my voice exercises:) getting me ready to cut a new record next week:) #stokedFirst, welcome to Pulse Music Board, gurustu! Second, I have to correct you on something: Either you are alive and well OR on Curb Records. Can't have it both ways! Unless your name is Lee Brice.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Sept 10, 2014 11:30:27 GMT -5
Andy Gibson doesn't have a record label, he is recording new music on his own. His music he had with Curb they kept.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 11, 2014 18:38:15 GMT -5
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2014 1:26:31 GMT -5
That's great news. Since it'd been so long since Van Lear Rose, I had begun to think Loretta Lynn would end her career with that album, but it's nice to see she'll be putting out some new music again. Judging from her re-recording of "Coal Miner's Daughter" a few years ago with Miranda Lambert and Sheryl Crow, she can still sing pretty well considering her age.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 12, 2014 16:28:03 GMT -5
^ I suspect we'll be getting his first Warner Bros. Nashville single fairly soon. It's looking like they may ressurrect "Kiss Me When I'm Down." Considering it hadn't really started yet, it might be very smart to do that. BPG had done an extensive radio tour w/Ryan with that song.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 13, 2014 13:39:59 GMT -5
^ I suspect we'll be getting his first Warner Bros. Nashville single fairly soon. It's looking like they may ressurrect "Kiss Me When I'm Down." Considering it hadn't really started yet, it might be very smart to do that. BPG had done an extensive radio tour w/Ryan with that song. Good move IMO. I doubt many, if any casual listeners knew it was even released. That song has smash written all over it.
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 14, 2014 19:33:29 GMT -5
I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable place for information, but Katrina Elam's page says she is now on Black River. Take it or leave it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 20:20:31 GMT -5
I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable place for information, but Katrina Elam's page says she is now on Black River. Take it or leave it I doubt she's with Black River. She was briefly signed to them a few years back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 0:18:16 GMT -5
Hmm, it looks like Zac's own Southern Ground team will still promote their material to radio. From Country Aircheck Today:
I'm assuming that Republic Records (Republic New York, not Nashville) will distribute the band's albums, but then...how exactly does Big Machine fit in here? If their role isn't for radio promo, then what exactly will they contribute? I suppose they could jointly distribute the albums with Republic. I'm just really curious.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 27, 2014 18:25:47 GMT -5
Hmm, it looks like Zac's own Southern Ground team will still promote their material to radio. From Country Aircheck Today: I'm assuming that Republic Records (Republic New York, not Nashville) will distribute the band's albums, but then...how exactly does Big Machine fit in here? If their role isn't for radio promo, then what exactly will they contribute? I suppose they could jointly distribute the albums with Republic. I'm just really curious. Actually, the label they're most affiliated with here is John Varvatos Records (mainly for the non ZBB SGA album releases). But BMLG and Republic will provide the marketing support for all of them. The band's probably going to be serviced through BMLG's channels (with the hope that BMLG may help the band become more 'loved' for award shows maybe?) Republic obviously offers additional promotional support along with BMLG. The band will likely show up on Republic's roster under the BMLG website as well. This is certainly an interesting move for the band and not completely unexpected (and a way to keep their other artists on the Southern Ground Artists -- mostly the solo vanity projects of ZBB at this point -- floating). In other artist news, both Blake Shelton and Lady Antebellum are now officially under their own labels with the 9/30/14 releases. Shelton's is "Ten Point Productions" while Lady A's is "Lady A Entertainment." Both also own their Christmas album releases.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 18:50:55 GMT -5
From what I can tell, Varvatos is mostly a fashion-design/"branding" sort of label, so I don't really see how that partnership will affect ZBB's music. Maybe I'm wrong, but in the iHeartRadio Festival interview, it mostly seemed that that would be more of a marketing thing, too. Zac was all decked out in a really expensive suit designed by Varvatos' company.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Sept 29, 2014 22:34:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:26:37 GMT -5
It looks like both Leah Turner and Love and Theft have parted ways with Sony, as they are no longer listed on the Sony Music Nashville website.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Oct 4, 2014 21:33:35 GMT -5
I really like Love and Theft. Very sad news.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 4, 2014 21:44:42 GMT -5
Dumb move dropping Love and Theft IMO.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Oct 4, 2014 21:50:51 GMT -5
Big Machine appears to be moving forward with a fellow named Seth Alley...there's a four song survey of his out now (songs are "Waiting On Mary," "White Dress," "Things We Don't Talk About," and "Me & the Boys") on Radio Traks. When I Googled him, I found this blurb connecting him to Big Machine (and talked about four songs having been mastered with a radio tour to come) as well as video of him performing at a radio station near Nashville about six weeks ago ( here and here). His bio on Facebook says in part:Heh. Re: Love & Theft -- they never seemed to be able to generate much in the way of album sales even when they did have a hit (like "Angel Eyes," though that did sell as a single), they haven't had a hit since "Angel Eyes" (which over two years ago) and they always struck me as too anonymous as recording artists to break out. With the Swon Brothers also on Sony Nashville and in a similar market lane, the label may have felt there was only room for one or the other. So from Sony Nashville's point of view, this makes sense. I also wonder if this is a case of the duo preferring to part ways with Sony instead of continuing to endure delays to the release of a full album because it was such a struggle for them to get traction at radio. They have enough name recognition and, I imagine, enough of a fanbase to get signed by an indie label.
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Post by codyj100 on Oct 4, 2014 22:46:39 GMT -5
It looks like both Leah Turner and Love and Theft have parted ways with Sony, as they are no longer listed on the Sony Music Nashville website. I really liked both of them. I was afraid of Sony letting Leah go. I liked her voice, especially raw and acoustic. I am surprised at the dropping of Love and Theft. While I realize their latest single didn't chart as well as previous singles, I really thought they had potential.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 23:15:28 GMT -5
Regarding Love & Theft, I actually agree with Dudley. They've had 4 singles for RCA and "Angel Eyes" was a big hit (I see that it's been certified Platinum), but since then they haven't even been able to make the top 30. Their last 3 singles have just not connected at all for whatever reasons. I imagine that RCA was kind of on the fence with this and that's probably why they stuck with "Night That You'll Never Forget" so long, because they probably were thinking that if it didn't do anything, then they might drop the duo. The label is also spread thin with Garth and Trisha joining Miranda Lambert, Sara Evans, Chris Young, and Jake Owen. Also, like 43dudleyvillas said, the Leah Turner situation is incredibly frustrating. She was signed to the label and they rushed music out for her quickly because they were so excited about her, and I almost wonder if she asked to be let go when the label's priorities started shifting toward Chase Rice these past few months, as well as Tyler Farr and now getting ready to move ahead with Casey James and Steven Lee Olsen. I got the sense that Sony was really invested in Leah but then they were left in a tough spot when neither of her singles could break through, so I'm imagining a situation where they may have told her "Look, we can't try again with another single from you until 2015...it could be many more months or another year yet" and as a result they decided to part ways. Just speculation of course but it seems possible, especially since they seemed more excited about her than most of their other new artists.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 4, 2014 23:42:09 GMT -5
The reason I find the Love and Theft dropping so odd is the fact that it's not like they're on obscure name. Sure, they're far from a household name, but they are still fairly well known I think.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 5, 2014 3:10:26 GMT -5
I'm (almost) more surprised by Leah Turner being dropped than Love and Theft. Leah Turner seemed like she had a lot of potential and it's unfortunate that they didn't try harder with her when "Take the Keys" stalled out, because her follow-up was all wrong for radio and they just kinda dropped the ball with her. Love and Theft on the other hand has always struck me as being one-hit wonders of sorts, and I honestly never expected the success of "Angel Eyes" to be repeated for them. Their last two singles were pretty good imo, but they just come across very pedestrian to me and I can't seem them breaking through and ever maintaining any level of success.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 8:11:31 GMT -5
Too bad about Love and Theft, i absolutely loved "Runaway" when it first came out(even though i consider it more of a pop/rock song). Their albums were a bit choppy but still an enjoyable act. I don't remember where, but i remember reading that they wanted the title of their new album to be "The Blade" which i thought was an intersting title
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Post by jesster on Oct 5, 2014 11:56:01 GMT -5
while I don't like it, I can see Arista dropping LNT if they really felt they'd given them the right support and it just wasn't happening or likely to.
But making it an either/or choice with the Swon Brothers strikes me as odd, as one group has had multiple singles, some favorable songwriting history, maintained a fanbase, and successfully toured for several years. Where the other has just one single now charting, moderate name recognition from the Voice, and has yet even to release their debut album thru Sony. What results the Swon Bros have for album sales, or longer term sales/radio success with other singles, can only be guessed at.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 19:19:22 GMT -5
while I don't like it, I can see Arista dropping LNT if they really felt they'd given them the right support and it just wasn't happening or likely to. But making it an either/or choice with the Swon Brothers strikes me as odd, as one group has had multiple singles, some favorable songwriting history, maintained a fanbase, and successfully toured for several years. Where the other has just one single now charting, moderate name recognition from the Voice, and has yet even to release their debut album thru Sony. What results the Swon Bros have for album sales, or longer term sales/radio success with other singles, can only be guessed at. Love and Theft has been dropped from the label (and they were on RCA, not Arista). It was never an "either/or" thing between them and The Swon Brothers. Labels will simply move on from artists if they aren't scoring hits, and neither of LnT's last 3 singles could even make the top 30. I wouldn't necessarily say that LnT was able to maintain a fan-base, either. Sure, they had fans, but sales for their digital singles did not indicate very strong interest in the duo and did not show that they had a very big fan-base at all. I'm not really sure how The Swon Brothers got into this conversation at all as again, it was never an "okay, we can only keep one of these duos" type of thing. LnT got dropped due to their lack of recent success. The Swon Brothers are newer but they are currently enjoying a top 15 debut single...and if a label gets a new artist into the top 20 (like Sony has done with Swons), then they are more likely to release an album and be able to make some money off of their 'investment' in the artist. But if a relatively unknown artist's singles can't even crack the top 30 (LnT), then the label won't release an album because virtually no one will know about it due to the lack of exposure at radio, and therefore the album won't sell and the label won't make money.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Oct 5, 2014 19:48:43 GMT -5
while I don't like it, I can see Arista dropping LNT if they really felt they'd given them the right support and it just wasn't happening or likely to. But making it an either/or choice with the Swon Brothers strikes me as odd, as one group has had multiple singles, some favorable songwriting history, maintained a fanbase, and successfully toured for several years. Where the other has just one single now charting, moderate name recognition from the Voice, and has yet even to release their debut album thru Sony. What results the Swon Bros have for album sales, or longer term sales/radio success with other singles, can only be guessed at. Love and Theft has been dropped from the label (and they were on RCA, not Arista). It was never an "either/or" thing between them and The Swon Brothers. Labels will simply move on from artists if they aren't scoring hits, and neither of LnT's last 3 singles could even make the top 30. I wouldn't necessarily say that LnT was able to maintain a fan-base, either. Sure, they had fans, but sales for their digital singles did not indicate very strong interest in the duo and did not show that they had a very big fan-base at all. I'm not really sure how The Swon Brothers got into this conversation at all as again, it was never an "okay, we can only keep one of these duos" type of thing. LnT got dropped due to their lack of recent success. The Swon Brothers are newer but they are currently enjoying a top 15 debut single...and if a label gets a new artist into the top 20 (like Sony has done with Swons), then they are more likely to release an album and be able to make some money off of their 'investment' in the artist. But if a relatively unknown artist's singles can't even crack the top 30 (LnT), then the label won't release an album because virtually no one will know about it due to the lack of exposure at radio, and therefore the album won't sell and the label won't make money. It was my fault the Swon Brothers entered the conversation -- I injected them in a post edit and idly speculated that the two duos being in roughly the same market lane may have impacted the label family's interest in keeping both. My thinking was that were the Swon Brothers not within the label family, then Sony Nashville wouldn't have a duo, but that Love & Theft, in light of the fact that it has had three singles in a row miss the top-30 (as you pointed out), become more disposable because Sony Nashville has another duo. But having idly speculated all that, I absolutely acknowledge that the Swon Brothers aren't looking like big sellers at the moment (their top-15 single hasn't moved many downloads) and I never wanted to suggest that the Swon Brothers have seen a level of success that pushed another artist down in the pecking order. I agree that this parting of ways had mostly to do with Love & Theft's recent lack of chart success, but I still wonder if there was a mutual aspect to this one, i.e., that Love & Theft feels like it could at least get new music out more quickly with an indie. With Leah Turner, on the other hand, I hate to say this but I feel like it's less likely that she was willing to part ways with Columbia Nashville, simply because she hadn't been with the label that long, she hasn't had as much time as Love & Theft to build name recognition and a fanbase, and she has to know that as a rookie female, her chances of country radio airplay are next to nil if she is not on a major label (not that being on a major label proved to be any kind of guarantee). But again, I'm speculating.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 19:53:48 GMT -5
It was my fault the Swon Brothers entered the conversation -- I injected them in a post edit and idly speculated that the two duos being in roughly the same market lane may have impacted the label family's interest in keeping both. My thinking was that were the Swon Brothers not within the label family, then Sony Nashville wouldn't have a duo, but that Love & Theft, in light of the fact that it has had three singles in a row miss the top-30 (as you pointed out), become more disposable because Sony Nashville has another duo. But having idly speculated all that, I absolutely acknowledge that the Swon Brothers aren't looking like big sellers at the moment (their top-15 single hasn't moved many downloads). In any event, I agree that this parting of ways had mostly to do with Love & Theft's recent lack of chart success, but I still wonder if there was a mutual aspect to this one, i.e., that Love & Theft feels like it could at least get new music out more quickly with an indie. With Leah Turner, on the other hand, I hate to say this but I feel like it's less likely that she was willing to part ways with Columbia Nashville, simply because she hadn't been with the label that long, she hasn't had as much time as Love & Theft to build name recognition and a fanbase, and she has to know that as a rookie female, her chances of country radio airplay are next to nil if she is not on a major label (not that being on a major label proved to be any kind of guarantee). But again, I'm speculating. Ah, yes, I hadn't seen that you added that bit about the Swon Bros into your post. I completely agree, though--I was just chiming in saying that, since the Swon Bros have momentum at radio right now and LnT couldn't get traction, it obviously makes sense that LnT weren't a high priority for Sony Nashville right now. I think that if Love and Theft were able to go top 20 with their recent single that the label would keep both of the duos, but it just didn't work out for them (LnT). And I think you make a great point about Leah Turner. Now that I think about it more, I doubt she asked to be let go. I am sure she knew how good of a situation it was to be on Sony's roster, even though neither of her singles made much of a splash. She did, after all, open for Brad Paisley this summer, and that would not have happened if she weren't a promising new artist on the Sony roster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 23:52:30 GMT -5
As we are talking about Sony Nashville, I have a few questions. What is going on with Kix Brooks and Pistol Annies. Unfortunately, Kix has been a dud in his solo career; he has had 5 singles since Brooks & Dunn split. According to his wiki page, only 3 singles have charted with the highest (New To This Town) reaching #31 and the other 2 at #39 and #42, the last 2 didn't even chart. If anyone should go, I think it would have to be Kix Brooks; why is he still with Arista?Additionally, The Pistol Annies on hiatus. Any news with them? Also, compared to Arista and RCA; Columbia Nashville seems to have the worst luck with artists. After all, just within the past few years following the retirement of the BNA label, artists such as Kellie Pickler, Leah Turner, Josh Thompson, Joanna Smith, and Bradley Gaskin have come and gone, not to mention Miranda Lambert shifted to RCA. In the past few years, the only superstar with any kind of consistent success is Kenny. Why does Columbia Nashville seem to me to be the weaker label, with limited success? I don't think the label ever expected to do much with Kix. He pretty much only gets support from Cumulus stations anyway. He doesn't have the voice or the look to be a hit on today's mainstream country radio. With that said, due to his syndicated shows, he's a good asset for Sony because he's quite 'visible' and active on the radio via those syndicated shows. So I'm guessing he'll stay with the label as long as he wants to, even if they don't release any more music from him. It's really no different than artists like Vince Gill with MCA, Randy Travis with Warner Bros, Alan Jackson with EMI...their radio days are more or less done but it's unlikely that those labels will part with them since the label can still profit from albums. The only difference with Kix is that he was a part of Brooks & Dunn instead of a solo act like those other artists (and again, Kix also hosts 2 syndicated shows on Cumulus). Columbia (formerly BNA) definitely doesn't have the star power that the other Sony imprints do but it has to do with who works for that label's promo team as well as the label's overall momentum. These things tend to cycle, too. It's very possible that 5 years from now, Columbia could be doing better than RCA or Arista. I just hope that Sony re-opens a 4th label soon...I think they have enough artists to do so.
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Post by countryfan4life on Oct 13, 2014 19:11:45 GMT -5
I'm sad to see that Love and Theft was dropped. :( They have had a pretty rocky road in this business with Lyric Street shutting down, then Brian leaving the band, and now they are without a label again. I still think they have potential, because they are great songwriters and have a unique sound/style. Hopefully they find a new label and they can release some new music soon.
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Post by fe_lipeoliveira on Oct 13, 2014 20:07:39 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm sorry to come out of nowhere, but I've been thinking about Mallary Hope and I don't know if she's still under a contract. I would say no, of course, but she's been posting a lot about recording her album and everything, even before the news of her pregnancy, and now I'm wondering if she's recording it independently or if she's with a minor label. Does anyone know? And I'm sorry if this has been discussed before too!
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