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Post by Spacey_Kacey on Jun 6, 2013 12:39:25 GMT -5
New Toby Keith single coming out June 11 Source: SD/U E-mail This certainly looks like a lead single if it is being released at 6 AM on a Tuesday. Assuming he continues his pattern of an album per year."Drinks After Work" Songwriters: Release Date: June 11, 6 A.M. Listen
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jun 6, 2013 19:33:39 GMT -5
Yet another drinking song from Toby. You would think that after his last two songs barely making Top 20 on the theme of drinking (I Like Girls Who Drink Beer, Hope On The Rocks), he could have chosen something else to release. It's getting to be that he's patterning Kenny Chesney and his beach songs with his drinking songs.
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Post by jesster on Jun 6, 2013 19:39:04 GMT -5
I like Girls Who Drink Beer was really a country vs. city lifestyle song IMO.
And Hope on the Rocks wasn't really about drinking either so much as the life stories -- maybe more a "bar" song than a "beer" song?
I'll be happy to hear some new music from Toby, though it seems just the blink of an eye since his latest album came out and there are other potential singles on it that could have been. Maybe the daughter theory is correct that they put the time into Krystal vs. another Toby song during that time window.
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Post by churchchoir on Jun 6, 2013 21:56:55 GMT -5
I definitely don't think Toby's drinking theme is comparable to Kenny's beach theme. As jesster explained, Toby uses drinking as sort of a hook for his songs. "Hope on the Rocks" was in no way a song about drinking. It was a very dark song with a theme quite similar to Kacey Musgraves' "Blowin' Smoke," in no way centered around drinking. "I Like Girls That Drink Beer," while certainly having its flaws, was essentially not about drinking. The idea of girls "that" drink beer was simply a (lame) hook. Using beer as a hook isn't the cause of Toby's recent struggle for radio success, either. "Beers Ago" proved to be an even bigger radio hit than the monster smash "Red Solo Cup," getting Toby back into the top 5 (officially peaking a #6 on both charts, but having been #5 for a day or two in the middle of a week on Mediabase). Kenny is a different story. He sings songs entirely about the life of a "beach bum" and, in my opinion, they are all severely lacking in originality. His music is becoming very monotonous and mediocre. Ironically, Kenny hasn't really been having any trouble with the radio at all. The primary cause of Toby's recent singles barely reaching the top 20 is simply that he is becoming a thing of the past and the mainstream country listeners no longer really appreciate his music. They would prefer to hear Luke Bryan sing about how much he really loves a girl (again, and again, and again). It's not really just that which listeners want to hear. There are still many songs with substance that have success on the charts today, but Toby's just getting old, and the radio seems to be losing appreciation for his style of music. Also, I believe it is partially because his record label isn't exactly the best at fighting for airplay, and Toby never wants to spend very long promoting one single. Rascal Flatts, a group that is also getting phased out, had still been able to get top 5 hits until "Changed," but they have all been slow climbers. Toby could probably get his singles a bit higher up the chart if he invested more time in them, I think. Anyway, I really hope this is not another sellout like "I Like Girls That Drink Beer." I would really like to just forget about that one fluke... If this is similar to ILGTB, then I will root against it. On another note, I am surprised by how early they're starting the new era. The lead single off the last album wasn't released until July 24 of last year, and now they're releasing something off a new album in early June? Perhaps they're planning to spend half a year on a single and only release two singles from each album? I don't think Krystal had much if anything to do with there not being a third single from HOTR. The album's title track was probably anticipated to be a really big hit, possibly one of the last big hits of Toby's career, and it turned out to be a major disappointment, struggling to barely reach the top 20 and peaking a space lower than the ridiculous lead single. I think Show-Dog figured that, if "Hope on the Rocks" was such a flop, there was surely nothing else on the album that could get nearly as far up the charts, so they just ended the era early and sort of got a head start on the new album.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 7, 2013 10:56:16 GMT -5
Mixed feelings about Toby Keith as an artist (among other things, the "Bullets in a Gun"/Robert Earl Keen situation remains really problematic in my mind) but I take an interest here because this is written by Barry Dean, Natalie Hemby & Luke Laird ( here's the BMI entry). The melody is really infectious and the song has a really relaxed and catchy groove going for it. I think the song is going to lose something for me being sung by a married middle-aged male, even if Toby Keith is capable of singing and interpreting this well (Natalie Hemby does a terrific job on the demo). Lyrics: Talk on the phone, stare at the screen, Doin' the job, livin' the dream, Gettin' paid, Yeah right. Thinkin' about what I'll say to prove That we should go out for a laugh or two 'Stead of going home tonight.
[chorus] From a long day, no break, We made it to the middle of the week And I'm thinking that I'm probably gonna need To get to know you casually. Just having fun, two for one, Let's watch a good time get a little better. Ain't no ball and chain for the suits and skirts Just drinks after work, Drinks after work. Tell me what's it gonna hurt, To have a little drink after work?
Happy hour's like a holiday, Hanging with you's like getting away, Let's conversate For a little while. Well, keep me company, catch me up It's a whole lot better than being stuck In a drive-time 9 to 5 I'd rather see you smile.
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[bridge] Well, it's been a long day And the boss don't get it. Don't you wanna take the edge off With some 7 and 7? Just crushin' on a friend Tell me what's it gonna hurt Sippin' and tippin' some drinks after work?
[tag chorus] A long day, no break We made it to the middle of the week And I'm thinking that I'm probably gonna need To get to know you casually. Just having fun, two for one Let's watch a good time get a little better. Ain't no ball and chain for the suits and skirts Just drinks after work, Drinks after work. What's it gonna hurt, To have a little drink after work?
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Post by LBTrocks on Jun 7, 2013 13:44:28 GMT -5
The title doesn't impress me, nor does the lyrics 43dudleyvillas posted, but I'm all about how a song sounds. So I'll reserve judgement until I hear it. If I like what I hear, I'll listen to it regardless.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 7, 2013 17:51:31 GMT -5
Even though this is fifth single release in a row that references alcohol in some way, I must commend him that he manages to keep the unique enough that it doesn't feel like all he sings about is beer. I mean, sure it would be nice if he'd switch it up a little more and sing about something else, but I gotta admit that I've honestly enjoyed 3/4 of his last singles (Red Solo Cup being the one I didn't really care for, though I honestly grew to tolerate that one due to its humor). I'm interested to hear how this sounds, and I hope it's harder-hitting than his last lead single (which I liked, but felt was too throwback sonically to be the impactful hit he needed to launch Hope On the Rocks, which is probably why the era was his most short-lived and least-successful in years), because at this point in his career he really has to nail the lead single or he'll have no momentum to fall back on.
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Post by bigbluenote on Jun 7, 2013 18:02:16 GMT -5
Even though I don't always care for Toby's lyrics (for every cleverly written song, there's two horribly written ones), he's usually pretty spot-on with his production, which is what typically grabs me and why I enjoy Toby as an artist so much. Though I don't care for the theme of "Stays In Mexico", it's still one of my all time favorite Toby songs because of the sound and instrumentation, creative production at its best. Big Blue Note is another one of his songs that instantly grabs me because of the "obscure" and creative production.
If this song has an equally different sound to it, I'll no doubt like it.
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Post by rsandcm1 on Jun 9, 2013 23:04:38 GMT -5
For me, songs are mostly about the writing. The music and production can hurt or help, but I mainly listen to the lyrics. My opinion of Toby's last few drinking songs seem to have a pattern to them:
Red Solo Cup- bad song Beers Ago- good song I Like Girls That Drink Beer- bad song Hope On The Rocks- good song
If he really wants to keep doing drinking songs, then I hope he is able to break this pattern and come up with new, unique and original ideas for his tunes. But my bigger hope for him is that he starts to search for a couple different topics to sing about. Stuff along the lines of "Somewhere Else" or "Love Me If You Can".
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Post by jdbowman on Jun 10, 2013 13:16:57 GMT -5
Going to radio at 6 a.m. tomorrow.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 10, 2013 13:49:05 GMT -5
I wish Toby Keith would do a ballad. He killed on You Shouldn't Kiss Me Like This and A Little Too Late. By the way, for those of you keeping score at home, Hope On The Rocks was the first Keith studio CD to yield only two singles.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 10, 2013 17:14:42 GMT -5
Going to radio at 6 a.m. tomorrow. It's another hourly Clear Channel deal... lovely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 17:21:22 GMT -5
Going to radio at 6 a.m. tomorrow. It's another hourly Clear Channel deal... lovely. I don't think it will be, but we'll see. Plenty of songs go to radio early in the morning and don't get CC deals.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 10, 2013 17:29:45 GMT -5
It's another hourly Clear Channel deal... lovely. I don't think it will be, but we'll see. Plenty of songs go to radio early in the morning and don't get CC deals. There was an announcement from Toby on my local CC station that his new song would be played every hour tomorrow, starting in the morning.
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Post by churchchoir on Jun 10, 2013 18:08:55 GMT -5
I don't mind this Clear Channel deal too much. It may be the only way Toby Keith can get into the top 20 without a five-six month climb, which he probably does not want.
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Post by jdbowman on Jun 10, 2013 18:41:44 GMT -5
I wish Toby Keith would do a ballad. He killed on You Shouldn't Kiss Me Like This and A Little Too Late. By the way, for those of you keeping score at home, Hope On The Rocks was the first Keith studio CD to yield only two singles. I remember an interview he did with Storme right before "Hope on the Rocks" was released. He said something along the lines of - everyone has been wanting a ballad, so we're releasing a ballad, but if it doesn't do well, that ain't happening again - so I would highly doubt he releases a true ballad anytime soon. Although I agree in that I think he could crush a ballad and have it be a big hit still in his career.
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Post by bigbluenote on Jun 10, 2013 22:33:11 GMT -5
I've always had a great affinity towards Toby's ballads. His ballads are hands down better than any of his uptempos. He's really good at conveying emotion in all of his ballads and you can always feel what he's singing.
I loved "Hope On The Rocks" and think it really deserved top 10 at the least. I'm glad he moved on to another album though, he wouldn't have had any success with a 3rd single after the failure of HOTR.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 9:23:07 GMT -5
Listen HERE! I'm liking it a lot after first listen. I'm not sure if it's exactly what 43dudleyvillas was expecting, but I definitely hear what she said about the infectious melody and the catchy groove. This is different for Toby but I think it works really well. I could see this one getting him back into the top 10. I disagree that the Clear Channel deal would help him, though. If they are indeed doing that today, he's gonna get one big day of airplay and a decent, possibly top 30 debut on the next Billboard chart, but it won't look good when Kenny and Jason fly right by as Toby is having that 2nd week 'hangover' as I like to call it. Miranda, Dierks, and Taylor (assuming "Red" gets sent to radio in the next 1-2 weeks) could all catch up very swiftly as well. The CC hourly 'events' have never really worked; in fact, I think there's more evidence to build a case that they hurt a song's chart run, rather than help.
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 11, 2013 12:40:15 GMT -5
After first listen, I was quite disappointed of what I heard.....10 listens later, this song is an earworm. I like the sound of this song a lot. Give this one a chance if you don't like it first listen.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 11, 2013 13:57:12 GMT -5
Listen HERE! I'm liking it a lot after first listen. I'm not sure if it's exactly what 43dudleyvillas was expecting, but I definitely hear what she said about the infectious melody and the catchy groove. This is different for Toby but I think it works really well. I could see this one getting him back into the top 10. I disagree that the Clear Channel deal would help him, though. If they are indeed doing that today, he's gonna get one big day of airplay and a decent, possibly top 30 debut on the next Billboard chart, but it won't look good when Kenny and Jason fly right by as Toby is having that 2nd week 'hangover' as I like to call it. Miranda, Dierks, and Taylor (assuming "Red" gets sent to radio in the next 1-2 weeks) could all catch up very swiftly as well. The CC hourly 'events' have never really worked; in fact, I think there's more evidence to build a case that they hurt a song's chart run, rather than help. I'm not sure how many radio stations are doing it, but my local Hartford CC station (WWYZ) has been playing it every hour. I agree that "Drinks" actually has a refreshingly different sound to it. Just a simple song, but a nice little summer tune.
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Post by churchchoir on Jun 11, 2013 14:20:43 GMT -5
Anyone have any insight as to why this song does not hit iTunes until June 25, two weeks from today? Seems to me that would majorly hinder sales as all the excitement from the big World Premiere Day will have died down. Usually, when a song gets a Clear Channel deal, every hour, after it is played, the singer gets on and reminds listeners to go download the song on iTunes, and sales are usually very strong for the first week. If listeners end up not showing a lot of passion for this song, they certainly aren't going to want to download it two weeks after the release. The only possible explanation I could think of is that Toby is assuming his song will be a big hit with listeners and wants to give it a little boost of radio momentum when it first hits iTunes two weeks from today, but this sounds like a pretty poor choice. I disagree that the Clear Channel deal would help him, though. If they are indeed doing that today, he's gonna get one big day of airplay and a decent, possibly top 30 debut on the next Billboard chart, but it won't look good when Kenny and Jason fly right by as Toby is having that 2nd week 'hangover' as I like to call it. Miranda, Dierks, and Taylor (assuming "Red" gets sent to radio in the next 1-2 weeks) could all catch up very swiftly as well. The CC hourly 'events' have never really worked; in fact, I think there's more evidence to build a case that they hurt a song's chart run, rather than help. I'd say it really depends on how big of a hit the song really is. For Toby, with the way he is quickly getting phased out, it is possible his song could not even reach the top 20 if radio does not care for it. If he has a Clear Channel deal and debuts around #30, then the song is so young and already so high on the charts that, even if it does have a hangover week followed by several slow weeks, it almost has to get to at least #20 on the chart. I can't imagine a song debuting at #30 and peaking around, say, #25. For example, I don't think Darius Rucker's "True Believers" would have made it even close to #17 had there not been a Clear Channel deal to give the song a kick-start. But I agree that the World Premiere Days usually hurt the songs, "The Wind" and "Feel Like a Rock Star," two songs that seemed like solid #1 smash hits, being prime examples.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 11, 2013 15:26:58 GMT -5
Anyone have any insight as to why this song does not hit iTunes until June 25, two weeks from today? Seems to me that would majorly hinder sales as all the excitement from the big World Premiere Day will have died down. Usually, when a song gets a Clear Channel deal, every hour, after it is played, the singer gets on and reminds listeners to go download the song on iTunes, and sales are usually very strong for the first week. If listeners end up not showing a lot of passion for this song, they certainly aren't going to want to download it two weeks after the release. The only possible explanation I could think of is that Toby is assuming his song will be a big hit with listeners and wants to give it a little boost of radio momentum when it first hits iTunes two weeks from today, but this sounds like a pretty poor choice. For example, I don't think Darius Rucker's "True Believers" would have made it even close to #17 had there not been a Clear Channel deal to give the song a kick-start. 1) Why would someone be excited about a song and want to buy it but then choose not to just because they have to wait two weeks? If it's a song I'm passionate about, I'm buying it whenever it comes out regardless, and the extra two weeks may just help with the number of people aware of its existence before it's digital release date. 2) I disagree. I think "True Believers" was severely hurt by the CC deal. We'll never know, but I believe it would've gone Top 10 if it had been allowed to rise naturally.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 11, 2013 15:30:09 GMT -5
Anyone have any insight as to why this song does not hit iTunes until June 25, two weeks from today? Seems to me that would majorly hinder sales as all the excitement from the big World Premiere Day will have died down. Usually, when a song gets a Clear Channel deal, every hour, after it is played, the singer gets on and reminds listeners to go download the song on iTunes, and sales are usually very strong for the first week. If listeners end up not showing a lot of passion for this song, they certainly aren't going to want to download it two weeks after the release. The only possible explanation I could think of is that Toby is assuming his song will be a big hit with listeners and wants to give it a little boost of radio momentum when it first hits iTunes two weeks from today, but this sounds like a pretty poor choice. I disagree that the Clear Channel deal would help him, though. If they are indeed doing that today, he's gonna get one big day of airplay and a decent, possibly top 30 debut on the next Billboard chart, but it won't look good when Kenny and Jason fly right by as Toby is having that 2nd week 'hangover' as I like to call it. Miranda, Dierks, and Taylor (assuming "Red" gets sent to radio in the next 1-2 weeks) could all catch up very swiftly as well. The CC hourly 'events' have never really worked; in fact, I think there's more evidence to build a case that they hurt a song's chart run, rather than help. I'd say it really depends on how big of a hit the song really is. For Toby, with the way he is quickly getting phased out, it is possible his song could not even reach the top 20 if radio does not care for it. If he has a Clear Channel deal and debuts around #30, then the song is so young and already so high on the charts that, even if it does have a hangover week followed by several slow weeks, it almost has to get to at least #20 on the chart. I can't imagine a song debuting at #30 and peaking around, say, #25. For example, I don't think Darius Rucker's "True Believers" would have made it even close to #17 had there not been a Clear Channel deal to give the song a kick-start. But I agree that the World Premiere Days usually hurt the songs, "The Wind" and "Feel Like a Rock Star," two songs that seemed like solid #1 smash hits, being prime examples. Toby's hoping for buzz is my guess for the two week break between single and sale date. As for Taylor's Red, the country remix of it was sent out today.
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Post by churchchoir on Jun 11, 2013 16:35:08 GMT -5
Anyone have any insight as to why this song does not hit iTunes until June 25, two weeks from today? Seems to me that would majorly hinder sales as all the excitement from the big World Premiere Day will have died down. Usually, when a song gets a Clear Channel deal, every hour, after it is played, the singer gets on and reminds listeners to go download the song on iTunes, and sales are usually very strong for the first week. If listeners end up not showing a lot of passion for this song, they certainly aren't going to want to download it two weeks after the release. The only possible explanation I could think of is that Toby is assuming his song will be a big hit with listeners and wants to give it a little boost of radio momentum when it first hits iTunes two weeks from today, but this sounds like a pretty poor choice. For example, I don't think Darius Rucker's "True Believers" would have made it even close to #17 had there not been a Clear Channel deal to give the song a kick-start. 1) Why would someone be excited about a song and want to buy it but then choose not to just because they have to wait two weeks? If it's a song I'm passionate about, I'm buying it whenever it comes out regardless, and the extra two weeks may just help with the number of people aware of its existence before it's digital release date. 2) I disagree. I think "True Believers" was severely hurt by the CC deal. We'll never know, but I believe it would've gone Top 10 if it had been allowed to rise naturally. I just think that the CC deal generates a lot of extra hype for the first day and maybe for a few days after, and everyone immediately downloads the song just because of all the excitement and because the CC songs usually sound fun and exciting at first, but the novelty wears off in most cases after a while. Sales usually "stabilize" about a week after the release (for all lead singles, not just CC deal songs) and, if the song ends up not doing well on iTunes, there is no "spike" in the sales early on without a Clear Channel deal, or, at least, not as big a spike. If people really do enjoy the song, they will wait two weeks and buy it. But with a song like this that is just sort of a "fun" song, the excitement may wear off for a lot of people over the two weeks they have to wait. But I see what you are saying about building awareness before the digital release. For an artist like Toby Keith, whose popularity with listeners (particularly those who take to iTunes frequently) is waning, it is a good idea to try to get more people to hear the song before putting it on iTunes. As for "True Believers," like you said, we will never know where it would have peaked without the Clear Channel deal, but the song did not sell or test well at all, especially for a lead single, and still has received no certifications. The video as of today still has only some 640k views on YouTube. It really seems to me that the song was a hit in no way. On 12/12/12, its last day with a bullet on Mediabase, it was at #323 on iTunes, as per the Kworb archives. Of all the songs that received CC deals, I believe it had the second lowest debut of all (not counting Brad's song or Kenny's song, which were premiered on a Friday), debuting at #30 on Mediabase and #26 on Billboard (only debuting higher than Toby's Keith's ILGTDB). Please correct me if any of my numbers are wrong. I would like to add more statistics about the callout scores later, but my main point is this song really seemed lucky to reach the top 20 and I have seen no indication that it would have been a hit. Again, please correct me if I missed anything, which I'm sure I might have, but after examination of its records, it seems TB went very unnoticed and unappreciated and was a very poor lead single for an album that would have led the "True Believers" era down a pretty bad path. EDIT: Darius' song took quite a while to move up either listener approval chart, and ultimately peaked at #15 on Radiofeedback (after spending many weeks towards the bottom, reaching #15 in the 11/22 and 12/13 updates) and #24 on Callout America, which is especially surprising considering it seems that, in general, the listeners on these panels favor the songs that have a traditional sound. As for sales, Darius' song is a great example of how a Clear Channel deal really spikes the sales up early on in the song's run, but the excitement wears off and downloads can drastically decline shortly after the World Premiere if listeners do not truly warm up to the song. On 8/29, two days after Darius' big premiere day, the song was at #55 on iTunes. By 9/5, the song had fallen out of the top 400 on iTunes, and does not seem to have ever returned to the top 200. This song seemed like a recipe for disaster. It was, in my opinion, quite bland, and certainly did not have a lot of staying power, and sales, listener approval scores, and YouTube views were particularly low throughout its entire run. There was a one-week "spike" in sales, possibly thanks to the Clear Channel deal, that wore off once listeners had time to get over the novelty and excitement of the song. If listeners feel similarly about "Drinks After Work," by the time the song hits iTunes, they will have already lost interest. Anyway, some songs are severely hurt by the Clear Channel deals, but "True Believers" seemed to me like a surefire radio failure that might have struggled to a peak of around #25 if there was not a Clear Channel-enhanced debut. If a song debuts at #26, it can't just immediately start struggling and fail to make it past this position. Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" was an exception in that it was far too polarizing and I think the record label realized their mistake soon after releasing it, which is why they pulled it so soon. However, Darius' song had to move up a bit before it really started having a hard time, and therefore I say he has the Clear Channel deal to thank for his top 20 peak. If the Clear Channel deal had hurt him and had this been a huge hit with #1 potential, I'd say he might have peaked around #10, just as ZBB, Kenny/Tim, and Tim did with their CC songs. Granted, however, Darius peaked last December, when the charts were really starting to become a madhouse and it was difficult for anyone to move up without a great deal of listener support, but I still think he would have made it a bit higher if his song were something that radio loved. So sorry if I went overboard on analyzing Darius' song in a thread about Toby, but I just wanted to make my case for why I believe Show-Dog's idea really can hurt Toby if his song tests, sells, etc. similarly to "True Believers."
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Post by jesster on Jun 11, 2013 19:58:22 GMT -5
Cute song, very light/airy in tone for Toby. Seems like a good summer choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 20:20:12 GMT -5
He may be one of the most pitiful artists in Country music today. This thematic is so dumb and absolutely embarrassing that even he himself is looking the same way by never dropping it.
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Post by wilddustin on Jun 12, 2013 12:33:52 GMT -5
This is great! I agree with jesster on the light and airy tone for summer. I think this is one of the best single choices from him in quite some time.
I've purchased every Toby album year after year and am always pleased with the end product as a whole. My issue has been the choice in singles. I'll just say that Hope On The Rocks is one of my favorite Toby songs of all time but I knew it would not do well at radio. If he was going to release a ballad he needed to go with something down the 'relationship' path such as Haven't Seen The Last Of You.
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Post by Spacey_Kacey on Jun 12, 2013 15:49:54 GMT -5
The melody does help the awful lyrics out, but I think this is my least favorite Toby single since "Every Dog Has It's Day". Perhaps it will grow on me a little more than that, but I think this is even worse than "Red Solo Cup" and "Made in America". Maybe radio will actually play it on account of the summertime.
Also, with regards to single choices, I feel that only recently has Toby started making really bad choices that result in truly great songs being left on albums. Sure, he has released duds before recently, but it is not usually at the expense of a good song. Quickly glancing, I feel like 4 of his best 7 album tracks came from the last three albums ("Kissin' In the Rain", "Clancy's Tavern", "Haven't Seen the Last of You", and "Missed You Just Right"). Even "I Won't Let You Down" and "South of You" were pretty solid songs from Clancy's Tavern that remain album tracks though I'd probably put them a bit lower down, say top 20 of his career non-singles, so no harm there. But those 4 kill me that they were album tracks. I'm not sure which single I would have taken out of Bullets in the Gun to release KITR, but honestly any of them. The title track was not very radio friendly, so probably in place of that. I actually like "Trailerhood" well enough though perhaps is wasn't the best written song. Regardless, KITR was the best song on that album, and one of my 20 favorite songs (single or non-single) of his career. Even worse, CT was not released because of RSC, and one of my top 10 career highlights for him (maybe even top 5). I understand RSC helped reignite his radio career, but if that was absolutely necessary to release, they should have gone 4 singles deep for once his 21st century career. As far as his last two-single era, I suppose radio would not have played another ballad from an aging singer so "Cold Beer Country" may have had to have been the choice had they decided to go three deep. Perhaps those two I can excuse, but I still would have taken the risk and released one of them for sure.
Honestly, the bad single choices probably go back to 2006 (with the only good era for single choices since then being That Don't Make Me a Bad Guy). I just don't really complain that far back because there weren't these killer cuts being left on the album. There were probably some slightly better ones that I would have preferred, but nothing this egregious. It's just odd that some of my unreleased favorites are all coming bunched together all of a sudden.
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slowmo
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Post by slowmo on Jun 12, 2013 16:09:58 GMT -5
I'm very hit or miss with Toby's singles. After a couple listens I think this song falls on the hit side for me. It's a lighter, breezier song for once coming from him.
Can anyone place who the female is on this track?
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Post by echocountry on Jun 12, 2013 20:54:38 GMT -5
The last album I loved from him was 'Honky Tonk University' I really think Toby had a better run while at Mercury and DreamWorks, but after the ShowDog label began, his songs began to decline In popularity and sales... See a pattern? He doesn't have enough time to tour and promote his CD because he just keeps on recording and recording...
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