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Post by Spacey_Kacey on Jun 24, 2013 14:28:57 GMT -5
Ugh, was an extreme disappointment. Somehow better than "Truck Yeah". I also inexplicably hate "Let Me Love It Out of You" more than this. That's about it.
I share the sentiments of quite a few that "Mexicoma" was a far better fun and uptempo song if they absolutely had to go this route. I was really hoping for "Two Lanes of Freedom" followed by either a risky song in "Book of John" or "Number 37405" following 3 safe (but good) singles which won't be happening now. Maybe even "Nashville Without You" I could settle for on radio, but the rest of this album is pretty terrible. I guess there's hope of them going 6 deep at this point. It really doesn't even feel like "Truck Yeah" was a part of this era whatsoever so there's a decent chance.
Here's to hoping this gets shut out of the top 5 (and doesn't have to be pushed to long to get that far so we don't have to suffer many weeks).
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Post by jdbowman on Jun 24, 2013 15:00:28 GMT -5
The part played in that weird style (I don't know the term for it, but it's annoying) is ridiculous.
"Southern girl rock my world Hazel eyes and golden curls Put on a country song We'll dance all night long"
Like, what? Why did this need to be so prevalent?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 24, 2013 16:04:39 GMT -5
Terrible choice following two good singles, but I guess at least it's better than Truck Yeah? Still, I find myself tending to avoid this song when listening to the album (among a few other songs), so I can imagine being compelled to start changing the station when this comes on about only a couple listens at best. That said, I'm not surprised this is being release, as we are talking about Tim McGraw after all.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 24, 2013 16:35:24 GMT -5
I bet they close out the album with a winter/spring single of "Nashville Without You"
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Post by ClevelandRox on Jun 24, 2013 21:00:05 GMT -5
ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Nashville Without You, Two Lanes of Freedom, Tinted Windows, Mexicoma, Number 37405, pretty much the entire album would be better than this. My favorite album of his since LLYWD, I really wanted the right singles released from this one. :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 0:39:29 GMT -5
It's always been easy to blame Curb for many of the bad choices they made for singles. I was thinking we'd get better singles from Big Machine, but since they're only 2/4 so far (Truck Yeah should've never been recorded, and SG isn't much better), that leads me to believe that it's not just the label. Especially now with Tim's new contract with Big Machine (through his own McGraw Music), much of the blame has to be laid on Tim himself as well as his management.
Two Lanes Of Freedom isn't perfect. It's got a small handful of clunkers on it. But having 2 of them as singles is inexcusable. The title track is great, and both "Book Of John" and "Number 37405" are superb ballads. "Nashville Without You" would be a nice single and "Mexicoma" is the one silly song on there that actually works for me. "Annie I Owe You A Dance" and "Friend Of A Friend" are strong ballads as well. That's 7 songs I would've rather seen released instead of SG. This song finds Tim chasing cheesy frat boy trends and trying to capture just what it is about southern country girls that makes them so much hotter than all other girls. We've had way too many songs like this before...songs with lackluster lyrics about how everything country (whether it's the girls or the country life, etc) is better than anything 'non-country'. Tim should be better than this. He's released some of my favorite songs over his career but every time he gets on a roll, and has a string of singles that fits right in with my personal tastes, he releases something stupid like this.
I'd love to see this flare out before it hits the top 10, but I'm not sure if that will happen. And then again, maybe I should root for it so that the 5th single (which HAS to be better) will have more momentum. Ugh, Tim and Big Machine...all I can do is shake my head sadly at the news of this song being the new single. Tim should be setting the bar higher, and he's got some tracks that are quality, radio-friendly, and yet different than all the other songs out now--songs like TLOF and a couple of the ballads--so I can't figure out why they wouldn't release any of them.
ETA: Adds date is July 8, according to tonight's BCU.
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Post by Marv on Jun 25, 2013 1:25:40 GMT -5
'Inexcusable' is too mild of a word to describe this choice; how about abominable? This CD is loaded with superb singles, and as I stated earlier, most of the choices from 'Let It Go' were also atrocious. The 'blame Curb Records' theory just went out the window if you ask me.
The thought of hearing this on the radio for the rest of the year really makes me sick; if it somehow misses the top 20, I'll be delighted.
These lyrics are so juvenile; it sounds like something that would have been written in five minutes at a frat party in an Adam Sandler or very early Bill Murray movie, and is certainly a major disappointment.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 25, 2013 2:11:27 GMT -5
Sadly this will probably do well, but seriously, could the lyrics get any more bland and generic?
Just another humdrum song about country girls being the best... very sad to see them waste this one as a single.
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Post by churchchoir on Jun 25, 2013 7:03:31 GMT -5
What a waste. I really hope Tim goes at least 6-deep into this album, because there are so many splendid tracks on the CD. It's really bothersome that two precious singles were wasted on mediocre (though not downright terrible, in my opinion) songs while there are so many really great songs left to be released, many of which will never see the light of day thanks to the poor taste of whoever is choosing these singles. I don't find it necessary for Tim to keep releasing sellout songs to keep sales and airplay high. Tim has always been better known for his amazing and inspirational ballads, and he's got a handful more of great songs on this new CD that would likely be really big hits, so I don't see why anyone would feel the need to release another novelty song such as this one, which may be a sizable hit, but will probably be forgotten in a year along with a large portion of the novelty songs that work their way up the charts.
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Post by Marv on Jun 25, 2013 12:16:48 GMT -5
Whomever compared this wonderful CD to the ridiculously deep 'Live Like You Were Dying' CD was spot-on; however, they certainly whiffed on the choice for single #3 after 'LLYWD' & the downright wonderful 'Back When' went to #1.
If the outstanding 'Blank Sheet of Paper' had been single #3, it would have been an enormous smash IMHO, and could conceivably stopped that vapid 'Craig Morgan tune from winding up #1 for the year in 2005.
Another missed opportunity goes by the wayside.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 18:13:01 GMT -5
Whomever compared this wonderful CD to the ridiculously deep 'Live Like You Were Dying' CD was spot-on; however, they certainly whiffed on the choice for single #3 after 'LLYWD' & the downright wonderful 'Back When' went to #1. If the outstanding 'Blank Sheet of Paper' had been single #3, it would have been an enormous smash IMHO, and could conceivably stopped that vapid 'Craig Morgan tune from winding up #1 for the year in 2005. Another missed opportunity goes by the wayside..... I think you mean single #4 'Do You Want Fries With That?'
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Post by Marv on Jun 26, 2013 1:54:38 GMT -5
I did mean single #3; 'Back When' hit #1 in December of 2004 4 months after 'Live Like You Were Dying' did, and should have been followed by 'Blank Sheet Of Paper' IMHO.
'Drugs Or Jesus' was the third single, and Tim insisted that it be released as a single because he wanted to get the message of that powerful song out there, and it wound up being his first single in 11 1/2 years to miss the top 10.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 26, 2013 9:09:30 GMT -5
^I can't tell you the last time I heard Drugs Or Jesus. The Live Like You Were Dying CD should have had four #1s like Everywhere, A Place In The Sun, and Set This Circus Down.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jun 26, 2013 10:23:37 GMT -5
Once again - The pulse music board cries out against another obvious radio hit. Not that the some of the other songs mentioned aren't great songs - they're just not right down the middle radio hits like Southern Girls.
2 Lanes Of Freedom - maybe Friend of a Friend - maybe - cool song - kinda slow and sad for summertime radio Nashville Without You - cool song -but way to Nashville song writer inside to be a radio hit Book Of John - cool album cut - bad radio song Annie I Owe U A Dance - it's not the 90's anymore Mexicoma - after finally having a good radio song (Highway Dont Care) this is another standard Warren Bro. stinker Tinted Windows - this is not even on the main record - its a bonus track on the Deluxe record - it's ok
Keep in mind, the labels test these songs - take input from radio program directors - look at download numbers compared to all the other songs. Last I looked, Southern Girls was the highest download non single on this record.
This song will do great at radio - it's an easy summertime song to run up the chart as a 4th and last single off the record. It was the obvious choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 6:12:57 GMT -5
Once again - The pulse music board cries out against another obvious radio hit. Not that the some of the other songs mentioned aren't great songs - they're just not right down the middle radio hits like Southern Girls. 2 Lanes Of Freedom - maybe Friend of a Friend - maybe - cool song - kinda slow and sad for summertime radio Nashville Without You - cool song -but way to Nashville song writer inside to be a radio hit Book Of John - cool album cut - bad radio song Annie I Owe U A Dance - it's not the 90's anymore Mexicoma - after finally having a good radio song (Highway Dont Care) this is another standard Warren Bro. stinker Tinted Windows - this is not even on the main record - its a bonus track on the Deluxe record - it's ok Keep in mind, the labels test these songs - take input from radio program directors - look at download numbers compared to all the other songs. Last I looked, Southern Girls was the highest download non single on this record. This song will do great at radio - it's an easy summertime song to run up the chart as a 4th and last single off the record. It was the obvious choice. countrymusic20, I must remind you of the Country Forum Rules & Guidelines, specifically #7, which states that each poster should post about songs and not each other. "The pulse music board cries out against another obvious radio hit" takes on a rather pert and dismissive tone, which goes against rule #7. It's perfectly fine to disagree with others on the board, but the point is that this board is a discussion forum. "Southern Girl" may or may not be an obvious radio hit, but many of the folks who posted up-thread weren't even really talking about that. They were addressing the quality of the song (or the lack thereof, I should say) and how, in their opinions, it's one of the worst tracks on the album. Most were merely expressing the wish that Tim and Big Machine had released a more quality track instead. Everybody can have their opinion and share it, and that's totally fine, but please don't dismiss the opinions of the entire board. Anyway, back to regular discussion now.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 28, 2013 9:03:41 GMT -5
Ugh! Its becoming increasingly hard to call myself a fan of Tim these days. I can take the occasional crappy radio ready tune. But hes going three out of four on this album . The goofy sound effects alone are enough for me to pass on this one, not that there is much of a song there to begin with.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 28, 2013 9:52:58 GMT -5
Whomever compared this wonderful CD to the ridiculously deep 'Live Like You Were Dying' CD was spot-on; however, they certainly whiffed on the choice for single #3 after 'LLYWD' & the downright wonderful 'Back When' went to #1. If the outstanding 'Blank Sheet of Paper' had been single #3, it would have been an enormous smash IMHO, and could conceivably stopped that vapid 'Craig Morgan tune from winding up #1 for the year in 2005. I agree; "Blank Sheet of Paper" is amazing. And for the cord, the Warren Brothers wrote it. (However, if it could've stopped TWILAS from going to #1, then I imagine Sugarland's amazing "Baby Girl" still would've stalled out at #2. Still peeved at that one.)
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 28, 2013 15:35:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the amount of iTunes downloads (bar the singles so far) is the primary reason this is getting released as a single. I find it pretty sad because he can do so much better than this. I'll listen to SG again and try to envision how far it may go on the charts, but I honestly don't think this'll fare any better than that other stinker (commonly known as "Truck Yeah"). I'll hang my head if this ends up going anywhere near the top 5, but I'm actually expecting nothing less than a top 3 for him out of this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 19:08:10 GMT -5
^Wait...so you honestly don't think this will fare any better than "Truck Yeah", yet you are actually expecting nothing less than a top 3? I'm confused, lol.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 28, 2013 20:09:33 GMT -5
I'll paraphrase what I meant to say; didn't mean for it to sound that sloppy, sorry. If I had it my way (and all is right with the world ), it wouldn't fare any better than "Truck Yeah". However, since virtually anything from FGL and Blake's latest single flew up the chart with very little problems, if any, I have a feeling that radio will embrace this song with open arms, resulting in a top 3 finish. Hope that made sense.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jul 23, 2013 11:43:52 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt (and any possible double-posting) here, folks, but the way this is jumping up the charts like one hot potato has me believing this will indeed be an easy top 3 for him, if not a #1. It's right on the wings of joining the top 20 after only 4 weeks and will most likely make that mark by mid-August. And just when I thought country radio was starting to get over this frat-boy craze, they turn around and prove us folks wrong. God help us all.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 23, 2013 16:54:53 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt (and any possible double-posting) here, folks, but the way this is jumping up the charts like one hot potato has me believing this will indeed be an easy top 3 for him, if not a #1. It's right on the wings of joining the top 20 after only 4 weeks and will most likely make that mark by mid-August. And just when I thought country radio was starting to get over this frat-boy craze, they turn around and prove us folks wrong. God help us all. Just curious, what led you to believe this might be happening?
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jul 23, 2013 20:09:37 GMT -5
Well, radio said no to "Truck Yeah" last summer and the same for "1994" earlier this year. Sadly those are looking to be anomalies at this point.
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Post by goodsoul81 on Jul 24, 2013 2:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by churchchoir on Jul 24, 2013 2:45:06 GMT -5
"Truck Yeah" had much less substance than this song. It was very similar to '94 in that it was just so ridiculous radio couldn't possibly take it seriously enough to give it heavy rotation. "Southern Girl" is far from a masterpiece, but the lyrics, and the hook in particular, aren't nearly as cringe-worthy as this era's lead single. I think there's a big difference between the two songs, and I actually find the melody of this release to be quite catchy. I'd describe the lyrics of this song as lame and corny and the theme as simply cliche, but there's no way "Southern Girl" bothers me nearly as much as "Truck Yeah," which has absolutely ridiculous lyrics and a theme that barely even makes sense, packaged with a bland tune and surprisingly mediocre vocals for someone with a voice as soothing as Tim McGraw's. I find "Southern Girl" to have decent production to compensate for its lackluster writing, whereas "Truck Yeah" had no redeemable qualities. "Southern Girl" should be a solid #1 hit on the charts. It's a simple, upbeat, meaningless tune, which radio loves, and doesn't have embarrassingly horrible lyrics, which radio hates. "Truck Yeah" had horrid Callout America scores, peaking in the 20's on the chart last October with one of the highest "Strongly Dislike" rates on the entire chart at the time (around 20% at one point), whereas "Southern Girl" debuted at #12 on the survey this week with a "Strongly Dislike" rate of .5%. To listeners like the Pulse frequenters, who have much more appreciation and desire for strong writing and deep messages, the two Tim McGraw songs seem quite similar, but to the average radio listener, I think "Truck Yeah" is much more noticeably bad and "Southern Girl" shows a lot stronger production and overall more effort seems to have been put into this song. Anyway, the point I was trying to make was in response to Cody Wants Out...'s post about the under-performance of "Truck Yeah" and "1994" suggesting radio is starting to close the doors to frat boy country. I think those two songs were extreme examples of particularly poor writing (probably some of the lyrically weakest singles released so far this decade), and, I'm not sure how others feel, but the melodies and vocals on both of those songs also seemed particularly ear-splitting. Radio isn't saying "no" to frat boy country, but it gets to a point where some songs are just too ridiculous. "Southern Girl" isn't anywhere near that point in my opinion, although I'm sure others feel differently, and I can't say I fail to fathom their disgust for this song, but from my point-of-view this is several steps above "Truck Yeah" and "1994."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 7:37:56 GMT -5
Over the last few years Tim has just been putting out complete crap for singles, aside from a few (Better Than I Used to Be and Highway Don't Care). I have been put off and I am finding hard to be a fan when these less than mediocre singles flood my radio all the time, I just want to turn it off. Tim is a great artist and will be one of the greatest, but his latest offerings have me questioning him as of late. This song is no different from OOTN for me, boring but very annoying to hear on the radio so often.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 24, 2013 9:12:14 GMT -5
Over the last few years Tim has just been putting out complete crap for singles, aside from a few (Better Than I Used to Be and Highway Don't Care). I have been put off and I am finding hard to be a fan when these less than mediocre singles flood my radio all the time, I just want to turn it off. Tim is a great artist and will be one of the greatest, but his latest offerings have me questioning him as of late. This song is no different from OOTN for me, boring but very annoying to hear on the radio so often. Over the last few years. Was that due to Curb wanting to extend their control over Tim McGraw and keep him on a short leash, thus the questionable singles choices during the late 2000s-early 2010s?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 12:27:11 GMT -5
Over the last few years Tim has just been putting out complete crap for singles, aside from a few (Better Than I Used to Be and Highway Don't Care). I have been put off and I am finding hard to be a fan when these less than mediocre singles flood my radio all the time, I just want to turn it off. Tim is a great artist and will be one of the greatest, but his latest offerings have me questioning him as of late. This song is no different from OOTN for me, boring but very annoying to hear on the radio so often. Over the last few years. Was that due to Curb wanting to extend their control over Tim McGraw and keep him on a short leash, thus the questionable singles choices during the late 2000s-early 2010s? If that was reason then shame on Curb, but still now that Tim is away from Curb he should have a little more freedom to choose his singles, but they seem to be still very bad.
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Post by Marv on Jul 26, 2013 22:58:00 GMT -5
The sad thing is that several of the format's stars and superstars have been putting out some really atrocious singles over the past few years, including Tim, Toby, Trace, Phil, Blake and others, yet the format continues to thrive in spite of them.
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