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Post by rsmatto on Dec 21, 2013 13:26:16 GMT -5
I am looking forward to hear the material on the album, but based on "Chillin' It", I don't see him becoming a major star. On the contrary. If he keeps releasing mid-tempo tunes like this, he's gonna break-out huge.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Dec 21, 2013 13:45:12 GMT -5
The reason I see him as a one-hit-wonder is, IMO, his voice just isn't that good.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 21, 2013 14:47:39 GMT -5
You can make a case or arguement for any artists these days on why or why not they will become stars. I thought Blaine Larsen was going to be huge and whiffed badly . But I thought Aldean would be huge when I heard "Why" and "Amarillo Sky", and that one I actually got right ;). There are many cases like that for me both ways. It all depends on the current climate of country radio. Right now I say he will be a fairly big hit because of what matt and churchchoir said. But things could change and Cole could get lost in the shuffle just like that. You just never know in this industry.
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Post by samsager3 on Dec 21, 2013 20:55:44 GMT -5
I get what your saying I thought years ago jack Ingram would have been a break out star he's always had amazing stuff but never really capitalized on the potential and I also thought florida Georgia line would be huge after accidentally meeting there your guy on college campus at my college and getting tickets to a show before they got there record deal and that one worked out. So honestly it's shoot as to weather one hit can do that. I think it has a lot to do with the politics of the record company and single choices and weather you can follow you a big hit with something at least alright in order to capitalize on the momentum this guys voice isn't the greatest, but he seems like a good writer and his voice can be hidden in these mid tempo songs so if he release this kind of stuff constantly he could make it big. What he doesn't want to do is release something rocking and try to capitalize on that trend. He seems like the type that would try but he couldn't quite pull the Brantley Gilbert approach
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 22, 2013 1:18:55 GMT -5
Plenty of country stars don't have the greatest of voices or, better yet, thin vocal ranges.
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Post by samsager3 on Dec 22, 2013 7:23:05 GMT -5
That's my point exactly, I mean look at Jason aldean for example his vocal range is very limited but he keeps cranking out hits becuase he's figured out how to keep it at the right pace. Same thing with brad paisley honestly I'd never consider him to be a terrific vocalist but he knows what to do to conpensate
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 22, 2013 8:46:29 GMT -5
I am looking forward to hear the material on the album, but based on "Chillin' It", I don't see him becoming a major star. On the contrary. If he keeps releasing mid-tempo tunes like this, he's gonna break-out huge. Unless the "bro" tend fades, which I keep thinking it will. There has to be a saturation point. To be fair, this is more laid-back than most "bro" songs, and it does have some decent lines. It was also co-written by the underrated Shane Minor (ohai, "Slave to the Habit" — whatever happened to that song anyway?), and while you could practically interpolate this song with "Cruise", it's still not BAD in my book.
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Post by carriekins on Dec 22, 2013 9:17:12 GMT -5
I think the biggest thing working against Cole (and hopefully Chase Rice) will be an oversaturation of the market. These guys are all breaking with new music that all sounds the same. There is a breaking point, and sooner or later (hopefully sooner) even the most ardent fans will tire of the sound. Cole has proven to be a decent songwriter so it's possible he can continue after the bro-ness fades, but it's just way tough to call simply based off Chillin It.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 22, 2013 10:03:37 GMT -5
Maybe he'll pull a Zac Brown Band: release a stock "country boy" song first to get his foot in the door, THEN release the better stuff.
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Post by dajross6 on Jan 14, 2014 21:07:22 GMT -5
I know lots of people aren't huge on Cole, but The Highway started spinning a new single by him and it sounds like a hit on first listen. It isn't bro country but rather mid-tempo love song written by him and FGL (ugh). I actually kinda liked this, but not on the level I like his current song. It's catchy and not loud, so it has that going for it.
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Post by xy0cmiller6yx on Jan 14, 2014 22:52:34 GMT -5
Here is the song that's now available on Itunes, and has started to get plays on The Highway! I definitely like it!
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 14, 2014 23:25:30 GMT -5
The one on iTunes, "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight", isn't country at all IMO. (then again, what is these days).
That said, I do really like it.
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Post by blueguitar on Jan 14, 2014 23:32:24 GMT -5
The one on iTunes, "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight", isn't country at all IMO. (then again, what is these days). That said, I do really like it. Maybe not country in your opinion but definite BRO- country in (a pretty obvious) disguise. First line includes the word "tailgates" second line uses "moonshine". It does get getter after that but not much.
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Post by samsager3 on Jan 15, 2014 12:15:38 GMT -5
Why does it matter if something is bro country. It seems like so many people just automatically equate bro country with bad, and don't get me wrong there is bad bro country look at chase rices recent release. That being said there's bad traditional country in my opinion too I haven't cared for a George straight song this whole era so it's a matter of opinion. Cole swindell seems poised to break out this year and I hope he does. I like this song and have heard many of his album cuts and it seems like hope you get lonely or Let me see ya girl could be smash hits, with the latter possibly getting cross over appeal if he goes that route. I haven't been this excited for a release from a debut artist since florida Georgia line and before that Easton Corbin
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 15, 2014 12:42:54 GMT -5
I wouldnt call Hope You Get Lonely Tonight bro country. It is essentially the male version of Sheryl Crow's Calling Me When I'm Lonely
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Post by samsager3 on Jan 15, 2014 15:51:07 GMT -5
I wouldnt call Hope You Get Lonely Tonight bro country. It is essentially the male version of Sheryl Crow's Calling Me When I'm Lonely It uses autotune quite a bit And has lyrics similar to other bro country songs so in my mind it is , it's just good bro country which is exactly my point that it's not all bad just by having that label.
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Post by joey2002 on Jan 15, 2014 23:28:53 GMT -5
Why does it matter if something is bro country. The problem is that everything seems to be bro-country these days, and classic country sounding tunes can't seem to get played anymore.
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Post by matty005 on Jan 16, 2014 1:46:01 GMT -5
Why does it matter if something is bro country. The problem is that everything seems to be bro-country these days, and classic country sounding tunes can't seem to get played anymore. I am pretty sure that just today I have read the term "bro country" in almost every topic that I have opened on this site. Either "this song is bro country," "it's borderline bro country," "thank goodness it's not bro country." I understand everyone's frustrations, but at least for me, reading the same thing/argument over and over gets just as old.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 16:18:30 GMT -5
Anyways... I have been hearing this a lot recently. I don't see it hitting Number One, but it'll probably peak in the Top 5. It's already up to #5 on Mediabase! ;) Based on how this one has been doing, I think it has a great chance to go to #1, as long as Luke's "Drink A Beer" doesn't block it (in which case Cole would be held to a #2 peak). I think Luke will get, at minimum, 2-3 weeks at #1, possibly beginning as early as the end of next week, and then after him it could be a battle between Cole and David -- but I think each of them can get to #1.
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Post by churchchoir on Jan 16, 2014 16:40:28 GMT -5
I say this will definitely go to #1 on Billboard. Even if DAB gets three to four weeks at #1, which I do see as possible given the way the charts have worked out (timing and Luke probably reaching #1 while still not too high in audience), Cole Swindell's album still isn't out until February 18, which means the single will still have a lot of momentum/excitement around it.
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Post by mylifeback on Jan 26, 2014 10:38:52 GMT -5
This is my favorite song on the radio right now so I'm glad it's doing so well. Whether I like a song or not almost always has to do with melody and arrangement, if the vocal is appealing to me and whether or not I want to sing along in the car. This one I definitely love singing along to, especially the chorus. Chillin' It checks all those boxes for me.
I don't get too worked up about lyrics personally, that's usually the last thing I pay attention to. Hasn't country music always revolved around drinking in a bar, partying or cheating men? As someone who didn't grow up listening to country radio, that's definitely always been my impression of traditional country music so I'm always a little surprised people get are dismayed when a new song comes out about partying. The whole "bro country" meme is incredibly boring & hypocritical to me so I automatically tune out any discussion of it, but that's just me. I've never understood why people care so much what music other people like. I get people want diversity on the dial, but every format has its phases, so there's nothing new here in my opinion.
But back to this song. I don't know much/anything about Cole Swindell, is this his first hit?
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Post by carriekins on Jan 26, 2014 11:11:45 GMT -5
Cole used to be Luke Bryan's merch guy. This is his debut single.
Yes, country has always had drinking songs, good timing songs. But never has it been 60-75% of what's on the radio at any given time, nor has it been so downright degrading toward women. I've listened to country since I was 8. That's 26 years, and I've never been this ticked off toward the state of country. I have a baby girl now and am frankly disgusted at the picture a lot of these songs paint for young women. Life is not a party 100% of the time. Country used to be much deeper. Now depth is "too adult" and doesn't get exposure.
To me, Cole is the least offensive in this manner, and I am significantly more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as a result. I don't particularly love Chillin It, but I like his new song Hope You Get Lonely Tonight quite a bit.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 26, 2014 15:32:48 GMT -5
This is my favorite song on the radio right now so I'm glad it's doing so well. Whether I like a song or not almost always has to do with melody and arrangement, if the vocal is appealing to me and whether or not I want to sing along in the car. This one I definitely love singing along to, especially the chorus. Chillin' It checks all those boxes for me. I don't get too worked up about lyrics personally, that's usually the last thing I pay attention to. Hasn't country music always revolved around drinking in a bar, partying or cheating men? As someone who didn't grow up listening to country radio, that's definitely always been my impression of traditional country music so I'm always a little surprised people get are dismayed when a new song comes out about partying. The whole "bro country" meme is incredibly boring & hypocritical to me so I automatically tune out any discussion of it, but that's just me. I've never understood why people care so much what music other people like. I get people want diversity on the dial, but every format has its phases, so there's nothing new here in my opinion. But back to this song. I don't know much/anything about Cole Swindell, is this his first hit? I don't think anybody here cares what others like in terms of their taste of music. Those of us who don't like bro-country point out specific aspects of it that illustrate why we don't enjoy it. Everything is subjective and taste of one's music is no different. Country music has never "revolved" around drinking in a bar, nor has it "revolved" around partying or cheating. Does it have songs with those specific subjects, absolutely. But country music is the genre that makes you feel something deep. It something you can relate to and make you get through whatever your going through. It's used to be a wide range of topics such as Family, Military, Religion, Drinking, Fun Night's, Cheating, Break-ups, etc. Today's country radio has mostly gotten rid of those deeper subjects songs. It seems to be all about the girls in trucks, tailgating, and hell raising Friday nights. The country music I fell in love with was with songs like "Holes In The Floor Of Heaven", "The Baby", "Just To See You Smile", "Forever And Ever Amen", "Yes" and at the same time songs like "Too Much Fun", "Sold", "No News", "Loco", and "Me Niether. There was a great balance of songs that symbolized country music identity. But now many listeners feel this has become country music with the "Cruise's, "That's My Kind Of Nights", and "Boys Round Here". Like carriekins, I've always felt that these songs are degrading to women and treating the other sex like an object rather than a individual with lines such as "You're Little Hot Self Over Here", 'You're Little Fine Ass On The Step, Shimmy Up Inside" or "Shaking That Moneymaker". Those lines belong in pop and hip/hop, not country. But with the recent trend right now maybe I have to completely re-define what I just stated about this genre. "Chillin It" is certainly catchy. And I agree that it's the least offensive of the bro-country songs out there. Cole has got some serious writing chops. He wrote "Outta My Head" and "Roller Coaster" which IMO are stellar songs. Again I could care less what any other person likes. Not everyone is going to agree with this recent subject, but as long as we can site examples and certain aspects of this music we don't or do like, I think most everyone will be accepting with each others views.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 20:06:20 GMT -5
I don't get too worked up about lyrics personally, that's usually the last thing I pay attention to. Hasn't country music always revolved around drinking in a bar, partying or cheating men? As someone who didn't grow up listening to country radio, that's definitely always been my impression of traditional country music so I'm always a little surprised people get are dismayed when a new song comes out about partying. The whole "bro country" meme is incredibly boring & hypocritical to me so I automatically tune out any discussion of it, but that's just me. I've never understood why people care so much what music other people like. I get people want diversity on the dial, but every format has its phases, so there's nothing new here in my opinion. The term "bro-country" wasn't even coined until this past August (by a New York Magazine author writing about Florida Georgia Line and "Cruise"), so to say it's nothing new doesn't make much sense to me. The style of popular country music that FGL, Luke, and many other newcomers (Cole, Thomas Rhett, Tyler Farr, Blackjack Billy, Chase Rice, Brantley Gilbert...heck even Jake Owen and Tim McGraw are in on it) are making didn't really emerge until the last couple of years. There have always been drinking songs and 'hell raisin' Friday night' songs, but what's missing from the format now is the depth that so many of its songs used to have. Country radio has become increasingly narrow in terms of the type of music they play--if a country songs doesn't fit radio's formula, it's not going to do well on the charts. I can think of a couple Kenny Chesney songs that didn't fit into the narrow playlist as much, with those being "El Cerrito Place" and "When I See This Bar". The rise of bro-country has been well-documented in the last 12 months or so. Trucks and tailgates, hot girls shaking their moneymakers or "that sugar sweet as Dixie crystal", riding around in the countryside on a backroad with a hot girl in the passenger seat...these songs were few and far between with the country music I grew up with (and I'm only 23). Now these types of songs are the 'formula' that many newcomers or songwriters are chasing, because radio will jump all over those songs, and they know it. Country radio is targeting 20-somethings with increased frequency, because the younger crowd is the crowd that rushes to iTunes and jumps all over anything Luke Bryan or Florida Georgia Line releases, and the folks at radio want that crowd listening to their radio stations. Well, I've got news for them...not all of us are into that. I'm tuning out of the radio more and more often, because I find the type of music that's being played to be too dull and too repetitive. There isn't enough variety on radio playlists. The breadth of country music, from one end of the spectrum to the other, is pretty wide, but radio is only drawing from a narrow 'cut' of that spectrum. It doesn't bother me that people DO like what's popular right now. It just bothers me that the format I've always loved has changed so much. I feel like bro-country has gotten far too big a piece of the pie, and everything I used to like about the format has been crammed into a little sliver of that same pie. Gone are the story songs, the songs about real-life issues that adults face. A song about loss or rejection, with intelligent lyrics? Good luck getting that one played on the radio today. Cole's song here is inoffensive enough, but I feel like I've heard it a hundred times before.
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Post by churchchoir on Jan 27, 2014 1:01:09 GMT -5
I totally agree with carriekins that Cole Swindell is the least offensive of all the "bro"-type artists. I personally love this guy and wouldn't mind if only he and a few other artists were considered "the" bro country artists and released music similar to the stuff Cole has, while all the other artists stuck to their styles and had equal success. For me, this song's great melody, soothing vocals, and vivid lyrics make up for the overused theme, and I am willing to allow an artist a few songs like this if they, like Cole, have other music up their sleeves. The problem with FGL is that all their songs are about the same theme, but Cole Swindell is not like that and I think he has a lot of potential. I'm quite looking forward to his album in a few weeks.
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Post by mylifeback on Jan 27, 2014 1:10:36 GMT -5
That's not what I said at all. I said every format goes through phases, that's nothing new. And that's all I'm going to say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 1:21:06 GMT -5
That's not what I said at all. I said every format goes through phases, that's nothing new. And that's all I'm going to say. Genres go through phases, sure. I just meant that "bro-country" is very much a new development. I also don't think that country radio is going to revert back to any of its previous sounds, and the reason I feel this way is because the way people listen to the radio and consume music is so much different now than it's ever been. As I was saying in the George Strait "I Got A Car" thread, radio today is more about entertaining people with all the uptempo, fun stuff. People used to turn on the radio and gather around and listen to it, but who has a radio in their house anymore? Not very many people do, or if they do, they don't typically use it to listen to music. Most people listen to the radio when they are driving in their car/on the way to or from work, so consequently, we get a lot more 'fluffy' songs nowadays that are about partying, having a good time, escaping from the daily grind, etc. I don't think country radio is going to go back to playing the deeper songs that the genre used to be known for, simply because radio is so different nowadays. Unfortunately I think the traditional sounds of country music and the strong storytelling will be few and far between when it comes to country radio now and in the future. I think the reason that more people are complaining right now is because country music (largely because of mainstream country radio) has the worst identity crisis it's ever faced as a genre. Revered artists like Alan Jackson and Gary Allan have been quite outspoken about the state of country radio, we had the Zac Brown comments on Luke Bryan's recent output, some comments by Grammy winner Kacey Musgraves (whose home radio format will barely touch her music). The genre is fracturing and I, personally, wouldn't mind if country radio fell apart, simply because I don't like the way country radio is leading the genre. I think if country radio split into a couple different sub-genres, that would allow more folks like Brandy Clark or Ashley Monroe to get recognition, in addition to people like Kacey, Greg Bates, Chris Stapleton, etc.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 6, 2014 17:46:40 GMT -5
Winter version of this song: "Chilly Out"
I got my shades drawn, coat on Freezin' with the heat jacked ice on the wheel, ice around you baby Sunset, i bet, there's no chance we can get Sure enough it's dark now and I feel lazy Pourin' it on ain't easy now, it's slow a bit Nothin' for time tonight, the darkness killin' it Rockin' in the snow with you girl You know I'm cool and it's chilly out
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