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Post by spencer on Aug 7, 2013 4:48:55 GMT -5
It's hard for me to get past just about anything Jennifer sings because of the extremely exaggerated stretching of the pronunciation of the words. After a while it starts to make me feel as uncomfortable as nails on a blackboard. Also, I don't hear anything remotely country sounding in this song, so I wonder how radio will respond. I know Jennifer is very expressive when she delivers a song I just feel that at times it's just too much and way over the top.
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Post by someguy on Aug 7, 2013 10:36:57 GMT -5
I love this. Outside of "Stuck Like Glue" and a couple album tracks, I didn't love The Incredible Machine, though Love On The Inside is probably my favourite Sugarland album. "That Girl" sounds to me like a natural evolution in Jennifer's sound from LOTI, which I love. It's definitely different than everything else out on the radio right now, but I think that's a good thing. I hope radio agrees, because I think this could be huge if radio will give it a chance.
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Post by The Visionary Vantage™ on Aug 8, 2013 12:28:39 GMT -5
Disappointed. Didn't expect a "Livin' la Vida Loca" clone from Jennifer. Other than both songs have tango elements, this is NOTHING like "Livin' La Vida Loca." You can easily sing "she'll make you take your clothes off and go dancing in the rain / she'll make you live her crazy life, but she'll take away your pain" over "I knew he was good looking, maybe too good to be true / but when he kissed me in that alley, I could tell there was a you". They're melodically very similar songs. I don't see how I'm the only one hearing the similarities.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 8, 2013 15:21:03 GMT -5
Other than both songs have tango elements, this is NOTHING like "Livin' La Vida Loca." You can easily sing "she'll make you take your clothes off and go dancing in the rain / she'll make you live her crazy life, but she'll take away your pain" over "I knew he was good looking, maybe too good to be true / but when he kissed me in that alley, I could tell there was a you". They're melodically very similar songs. I don't see how I'm the only one hearing the similarities. Please be sure you are comfortably and securely seated before you read this. ;) After liking what I heard based on the clip, I find myself wishing that there were either more narrative development or more developed social commentary (building on the "boys can be promiscuous" line) in the rest of "That Girl." I would have loved a second verse and chorus that built on what preceded instead of repeating what we already know from the first verse and chorus. I tend to place some extra scrutiny on references to classics and/or legends, and in this case, I don't think the reference to "Jolene" is earned. If she wanted to mention Jolene, then why not respond to the wife/girlfriend's perception that she is some incomparable beauty, or why not critique pop culture's tendency to fault "the other woman" while giving a straying man a relative pass? Not wanting to be "that girl" is all well and good, but I feel like there was an opportunity to say something sharper as the song wore on, to build to some kind of lyrical punch. Still, I don't mind listening to this, and it's quite promising from a production standpoint. I hope it will do its job in launching Jennifer's solo record with sufficient airplay.
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Post by avalyn on Aug 8, 2013 16:13:28 GMT -5
I posted this in the artist thread but wanted to share it here as well. Hopefully it's okay, if it's not feel free to delete this post. I know some people have mentioned the album and the sound it's going have, mostly curiosity it seemed. A station in Houston posted three songs plus the single from the show yesterday. You can get a feel of That Girl live though along with the other three songs - Know You Want To Know, Jealousy and Me Without You.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 8, 2013 22:40:20 GMT -5
I posted this in the artist thread but wanted to share it here as well. Hopefully it's okay, if it's not feel free to delete this post. I know some people have mentioned the album and the sound it's going have, mostly curiosity it seemed. A station in Houston posted three songs plus the single from the show yesterday. You can get a feel of That Girl live though along with the other three songs - Know You Want To Know, Jealousy and Me Without You. Thanks for posting the link to the videos. "Me Without You" is especially pretty, and "Know You Want to Know" could be fun if the studio version doesn't oversell the humor. My biggest take-home from those performances though is that it's just great to have that voice back with new music. Jennifer Nettles sounds fantastic, not surprisingly (I embrace any chance to hear this genre's finest vocalists singing in acoustic settings), and it's neat to see how her presence carries over so well into an intimate venue with a small audience.
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Post by change4change on Aug 9, 2013 11:46:59 GMT -5
Hmm, a little LeAnn Rimes/Eddie Cibrian shade at the beginning of "Know You Want To Know," perhaps? Love it. "Jealousy" could potentially be my favorite track off the album if the recorded version is done properly.
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Post by avalyn on Aug 9, 2013 12:49:48 GMT -5
^I don't think KYWTK is any kind of shade to anyone honestly. She didn't intro it in this performance but the first time she did it last year, I have the audio of it, she stated it was inspired mainly by social media and gossip blogs/magazines - how people believe anything on the internet and in the magazines. Kind of in the sense too that people (fans, media, etc) love to build people up to high levels of fame only to knock them down and kick them when they are down. That's what I got out of the song and her story before the song. It was a co-write by Richard Marx though. That honestly surprised me when I found out that it was.
Back on the topic of the single, it seems to be doing well in polls with listeners on the sink or swim, smash or trash, etc. DJ's have been tweeting about the love of the song from them personally and the listeners. I know it's too early to tell but so far it's doing good. I have heard it a few times on one of my local stations. Two different dj's raved about it before and after playing it. One is famous for that and flat out said she was a fan of Jennifer/Sugarland before hand and the other rarely does it for anyone at all - always got the feeling that dj is hard to impress with new music, always seems to favor the older artists and never cared too much for Sugarland.
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Post by austin on Aug 10, 2013 21:31:17 GMT -5
She sounds SO good on this. Maybe my favorite vocal from her. No issues with her pronouncing of any words in this, which is unusual for a Sugarland song. I hope this can sneak into the Top 10, and the next single can be a radio-friendly ditty ready to charge to the top of the charts after this one earns her the critical acclaim.
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Post by someguy on Aug 13, 2013 9:38:03 GMT -5
This is the Hot Shot Debut on Billboard, entering at #57.
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Post by avalyn on Aug 19, 2013 10:24:45 GMT -5
It's officially added to radio today. Should be interesting to see what it does this week considering that. I know it got hot shot debut at #57 last week. To me that is a good start for her. Hoping it continues to do well though for her. She just posted a blog on her site, a story Behind That Girl. How she knew Butch Walker, how she reached out to him and the whole story she has told before about the song. Jennifer will be on Good Morning America Tomorrow. TUESDAY ON 'GMA' Prince George's First Photos Prince William and Kate show off their bundle of joy. Backstage With Keith Urban The “American Idol” judge takes us behind the scenes of his new tour. Jennifer Nettles Rocks Times Square The Sugarland star performs “That Girl” off her new, solo album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 17:54:04 GMT -5
Publicity: Jennifer will kick off a string of television appearances tomorrow morning, August 20, with the debut live performance of "That Girl" on ABC's Good Morning America! Mark your calendars and set your DVRs because Jennifer will also be performing the single on Live With Kelly & Michael on September 3 and NBC's The Tonight Show With Jay Leno on September 10.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 19, 2013 17:54:49 GMT -5
Here is information I received in an email regarding upcoming appearances: "That Girl" Takes Over Times Square on Good Morning America Single Available on iTunes August 20 Jennifer will kick off a string of television appearances tomorrow morning, August 20, with the debut live performance of "That Girl" on ABC's Good Morning America! Mark your calendars and set your DVRs because Jennifer will also be performing the single on Live With Kelly & Michael on September 3 and NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on September 10. Tuning in? Be sure to use the hashtag #ThatGirl to let everyone know! "That Girl" will also be available for purchase on all digital retailers. It is the first single from Jennifer's debut album produced by Rick Rubin and scheduled for release in early 2014. Read up on the story behind the song in Jennifer's latest journal entry here: www.jennifernettles.com/journal.html?b_id=138
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 21:15:41 GMT -5
Literally what I posted, word for word.
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Post by avalyn on Aug 22, 2013 15:00:09 GMT -5
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Post by bboat11 on Aug 23, 2013 0:50:09 GMT -5
I just realized I can listen to this on Spotify now. And you know, I really like it! It may be different, but I think it is still country enough to be a success. In fact, to me it sounds a lot more traditional than any of the other "first single from album is different from anything else on radio" singles that have appeared lately, such as Sara's. I love the fact that this song sounds like it was all shot in one take with everyone present. I can definitely hear the similarities to "Livin' La Vida Loca" at the end of the verses, but it is not a detractor for me. Jennifer's vocals sound different, like she is working on different styles and really focusing on putting a specific sound out there rather than her usual default drawl. In fact, when the third chorus starts and she launches into a dual part with high harmonies looped over the original chorus melody, she sounds a lot like Carrie Underwood to me, both stylistically and tonally (although with slightly more of a drawl than anything Carrie has ever sang).
There are just a couple things about this song that I cannot stand, the biggest thing being the stupid announcer in the background saying "rest", "second verse", "1,2,3,4", etc., followed by the applause at the end. It is completely unnecessary to the theme of the song, and I do not find it stylistically enticing in the slightest. I know in a lot of music the studio noise is an integral part of the mood of the piece, but to me it feels out of place in this song that is supposed to be about serious circumstances. Yes, it has an enticing groove, but that doesn't mean it's the type of song where the musicians should start vocalizing their enjoyment. So that is an artistic liberty that was a huge miss for me. Also, the chorus is dreadfully boring compared to the verses. It is catchy enough to hold my attention to the end, but I will be sick of it if it ends up making it to power-rotation.
All things considered though, this is a very solid effort and I am extremely excited to see what Jennifer has come up with for her solo record!
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Post by LBTrocks on Aug 24, 2013 14:30:48 GMT -5
I heard this for the first time today. I think it's breathtakingly beautiful! I have a love/hate relationship with her voice, but she sounds amazing on this and the vocal arrangements are gorgeous. VERY excited to hear the rest of the album. In the meantime, I'll be purchasing this song. I question how well it will do on the radio, but I really hope it gets played because I'd love to hear it on there.
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Post by StillTheSame on Aug 24, 2013 16:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by someguy on Aug 26, 2013 22:45:35 GMT -5
This has become my favourite song out there right now. I love the way she plays with Jolene's story, and fleshes out the circumstances. It's a great nod to one of the most well known country singles possible ever. It reminds me of one of those 'fractured fairy tales', like The True Story Of The 3 Little Pigs. I thought it might have taken off a bit faster than it has, but a bit of a slower start might be good in the long run. It makes a nice 56-49* move tonight, gaining over 600K in AI.
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Post by avalyn on Aug 28, 2013 10:46:34 GMT -5
The video is being shot today in New York. From twitter and instagram. The styling seems to be femme fatale. Their seems to be wigs involved and a body double (Casey Cohen from Bravo's Princesses: Long Island) as well. I'm excited too see the direction they take this video in. From what I have found so far in little details it seems like it'll be an interesting one. I'll be honest as much as I would love for the song to fly up the charts fast, I don't mind it moving slow. Maybe it's just wishful thinking it'll find windows with songs dropping off the charts, etc and move up naturally in a way too - slowly and build up. Hopefully that makes sense. I mean, she did say she wishes the album would come out before Christmas but they are aiming for a January release with a tour starting in February in small venues and theaters with a possible opening act.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 28, 2013 14:14:59 GMT -5
First week's sales for That Girl are 19,000. Even more That Girl news: It makes its debut at #37 on the mongrel chart, #23 on the digital chart.
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Post by sbp17 on Sept 2, 2013 7:06:21 GMT -5
I agree with dudley's thoughts on the song. I like it well enough but I think more could and should have been done with the song.
I'm surprised that several other songs that debuted the same week or the week after this one are moving ahead. Not that this is slowing down anytime soon but I was expecting a bigger solo splash.
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Post by churchchoir on Sept 2, 2013 19:32:20 GMT -5
I'd say "That Girl" is past the point of 'slowing down' and almost what you can call 'struggling.' Nettles is, needless to say, a big name. If anything, she should have a fast start and then slow down near her peak position. She's not a new artist who should need to break through with a 30-40 week climb into the top 10. There's still a bit of life left in "That Girl," but it has posted spin or audience losses in three daily Mediabase reports since its top 50 debut a week ago, and I can't see her advancing much further at this point. There was a bit of interest in Nettles' solo debut at first, which propelled her into the top 50, but this doesn't blend in with other stuff on the radio very well and I doubt we will see this song reaching the top 30.
I do think Jennifer could experience radio success as a solo artist, but this isn't the kind of material that will get her airplay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 21:11:12 GMT -5
I'd say "That Girl" is past the point of 'slowing down' and almost what you can call 'struggling.' Nettles is, needless to say, a big name. If anything, she should have a fast start and then slow down near her peak position. She's not a new artist who should need to break through with a 30-40 week climb into the top 10. There's still a bit of life left in "That Girl," but it has posted spin or audience losses in three daily Mediabase reports since its top 50 debut a week ago, and I can't see her advancing much further at this point. There was a bit of interest in Nettles' solo debut at first, which propelled her into the top 50, but this doesn't blend in with other stuff on the radio very well and I doubt we will see this song reaching the top 30. I do think Jennifer could experience radio success as a solo artist, but this isn't the kind of material that will get her airplay. I know here we're often warned about predicting the demise of singles because so rarely are charts completely predictable, but I wouldn't be too shocked if this came true. I love "That Girl," but it is a far cry from the accessibility of "Stuck Like Glue" and "Settlin'" and so on. I know she wanted to expand her creative horizons and I applaud her for that because she has created one wonderful song here, but it isn't what radio was necessarily wanting nor, apparently, willing to play too much.
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Post by LBTrocks on Sept 3, 2013 3:36:21 GMT -5
The vocal arrangements are absolutely stunning and the lyrics are well-suited to country music, but I think the bigger problem for this song is the music. I love it, but it's not very country and it certainly doesn't fit into mainstream's very small, tightly-wrapped box of acceptable material. The song is very creative, open-minded, and unique. Sadly, that's rarely a recipe for success at radio or on the charts. We'll see what happens going forward, but I agree with those who think things look rather bleak at the moment.
With all that said, I think this song is brilliant and I am very glad that she wrote it and released it. Love the style and the eerie minor key. I hope to hear more like it on the album. I've always preferred artists taking chances and making music they're proud of instead of singing whatever is necessary to ensure a hit.
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Post by avalyn on Sept 3, 2013 6:30:39 GMT -5
She has three promotional television appearances over the next few weeks. Live with Kelly & Michael today as well as The Tonight show on the 10th and Ellen on the 12th. I think there might be a few others that haven't been announced yet since her radio tour starts back up this week out on the west coast. She's been on break from it since the 17th of last month to focus on photo shoots, video shoots, a few interviews and a few other behind the scenes things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 7:59:40 GMT -5
I'd say "That Girl" is past the point of 'slowing down' and almost what you can call 'struggling.' Nettles is, needless to say, a big name. If anything, she should have a fast start and then slow down near her peak position. She's not a new artist who should need to break through with a 30-40 week climb into the top 10. There's still a bit of life left in "That Girl," but it has posted spin or audience losses in three daily Mediabase reports since its top 50 debut a week ago, and I can't see her advancing much further at this point. There was a bit of interest in Nettles' solo debut at first, which propelled her into the top 50, but this doesn't blend in with other stuff on the radio very well and I doubt we will see this song reaching the top 30. I do think Jennifer could experience radio success as a solo artist, but this isn't the kind of material that will get her airplay. The label will get behind it and move it up a bit I'm sure, but otherwise I agree--this is off to a very slow start. I like the song a lot too but I don't see it being a big hit on the radio. I could see it having a chart run similar to Sugarland's last single, "Tonight". It is rather early to predict its demise, but it's quite obvious that this one is struggling to catch on.
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 8, 2013 10:57:50 GMT -5
I'm surprised this is struggling so much. I would think Jennifer would have a large reservoir of good will with radio & I've seen articles about her visiting stations. I'm not a Sugarland or Jennifer fan so don't follow her, but I can't help noticing she's been out & about promoting this song. So why isn't radio giving her more of a chance with this?
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Post by LBTrocks on Sept 9, 2013 11:14:14 GMT -5
I'm surprised this is struggling so much. I would think Jennifer would have a large reservoir of good will with radio & I've seen articles about her visiting stations. I'm not a Sugarland or Jennifer fan so don't follow her, but I can't help noticing she's been out & about promoting this song. So why isn't radio giving her more of a chance with this? I'm also surprised and disappointed that this has been struggling so much. I was always worried about it, because it's not at all like what (country) radio plays. It actually doesn't sound very country for me. But props to Jennifer for getting back in touch with her creative side and releasing something that she's very proud of. I'm wondering if it would have any luck being promoted to a different genre? I don't know, but I did hear it on the radio once and it made me very happy lol. I'm pumped to hear what the rest of the album will be like.
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Post by avalyn on Sept 9, 2013 11:32:25 GMT -5
It is a shame radio isn't playing it much right now. Because this song had great reviews from pd, dj's and other outlets. Kind of the same for LBT's YSOTB. It's not typical and it's different so it doesn't get the play. Hopefully it will pick up a little. I am holding out hope a few more key performances and the video will help a little. She is doing some phone interviews it seems. She did one this morning and when the dj asked her why they were waiting until next year. She voiced the whole "I am excited as you are about this and wish it was sooner. But it's January because the label felt that was the best time." She tweeted a picture the other day of her notes from a meeting about a tour in February. For those that are curious about other tracks from the album. She streamed a show through a station in Portland and they put videos up from the show. There's Who Is This Angel?, Me Without You, Know You Wanna Know, Jealousy, Fallen/Falling and of course That Girl. Who Is This Angel was inspired by her pregnancy, becoming a mother and her son Magnus. It was only the second time she had done that song live. But these live versions should help shape what the album versions are according to what she has said about it being organic and not overly produced.
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