Enigma.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 2, 2014 5:38:44 GMT -5
That's interesting. It would be interesting if Spotify ranked top album streams, with one user listening to 6 individual tracks from an album counting as one album stream. I think Spotify does track album streams but I'm not sure what methods they use. If you click on top lists when you're in Spotify, you get the top 100 tracks and the top 100 albums. Right now their top 10 albums listed are the latest albums for artists: 1. Ariana Grande 2. 5 Seconds of Summer 3. Ed Sheeran, 4. Drake 5. Sam Smith 6.Iggy Azaelea 7. Jason Derulo 8. Katy Perry 9. Wiz Khalifa 10. One Republic Acts such as Flo Rida, Pitbull and Jason Derulo would do much better on album chart if streams were included. People do not buy their albums but people listen to them.
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CookyMonzta
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Post by CookyMonzta on Sept 6, 2014 4:45:12 GMT -5
This is why I think they should have a silver certification here . Albums don't sell well anymore . Why not make 250k a minor accomplishment I doubt this going to happen. Labels won't pay for a Gold certification! Albums by Usher, Bruce Springsteen, AWOLnation, Fall Out Boy, Great Gatsby Sdtk, Cris Brown, Fantasia, Wale, Eddie Vedder, Miguel, Prince, Rpbin Thicke, Lady GaGa, Michael Buble, Katy Perry, Drake, Jill Scott, Shinedown, Seal, Skrillex, Jazmine Sullivan, Christine Perri and Shakira have not been certified Gold. If they won't write a check for a Gold cert (Which costs $350), why would they want to pay a for Silver cert? Aye! Why pay the middle man (because that is what the RIAA is) what now seems like extortion, to certify something that is already certified by A.C. Nielsen & Co. and their SoundScan system? Better yet, SoundScan could make the RIAA completely irrelevant in this matter, by simply printing out a paper certificate, preferably with a hard-to-duplicate custom watermark design, and metallic trim (real or fake, and depending on the certification level), and mailing copies to the record label, the artist, the producer and the songwriter. That goes for singles as well. They don't need to be validated by RIAA when SoundScan has the official figures to tell them that they have gone gold... ...But like I said before, I hope SoundScan and VideoScan are not so easily manipulated by the MAFIAA (i.e., the MPAA and RIAA combined) into making a deal which bans music and movies by non-members (those that refuse to be extorted; most likely, indies) from ever being officially tallied by the Nielsen Co.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 6, 2014 7:25:24 GMT -5
^LOL. Really?
An RIAA certification is cheaper than a SoundScan subscription.
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CookyMonzta
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Post by CookyMonzta on Sept 7, 2014 0:52:46 GMT -5
^LOL. Really? An RIAA certification is cheaper than a SoundScan subscription. By how much? Irrelevant, it may be, because a certification and a subscription are two different things. Once more, it is as easy for an artist to find out if an album crossed the 500,000 mark as it is for you or anyone else to provide the info here; and I imagine it costs practically nothing. HITS gives quite an accurate heads-up analysis before the official figures are posted. You don't need to subscribe to Nielsen to find that out, because a boatload of media outlets (whether they be online sites like HITS or newsstand publications), already publish most of the figures. And if SoundScan should ever decide to award certificates themselves ( paper certificates, I might add), how much would it cost to print up one? Quite probably so little (pennies, quite frankly) that they can charge all parties involved (artist, producer, record label, etc.) as little as $10 to $20 (again, subscription is irrelevant)... ...And if not, that's perfectly satisfactory either way, because you don't need to be validated by the RIAA if SoundScan tells you that your single or album has crossed the gold level in sales... ...Which is to say that the idea of certifying shipments, in my opinion, is completely bogus. A record company can ship a million copies, but the idea of awarding platinum is completely tarnished if that album maxes out at around 400,000 sales.
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YourFaveIsAFlop
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Sept 7, 2014 8:21:19 GMT -5
Streaming being the primary way people consume music is inevitable. At least industry execs aren't fighting that like they tried to fight off the move to digital. It makes me wonder just how much album sales may decrease in the next decade, how they'll factor streams into certifications, and where music consumption could possibly go after streaming. Given current technology, it seems like that could be the last major format change. Doesn't the RIAA already count streamings for certifications or awards certifications based on streamings? I thought I had read something about that. They count song streams at a ratio of 100 streams = 1 digital download for certification purposes. As of now, I dont know of any song that would be certified based on streams that wouldn't otherwise be certified based on their sales though. Anybody? Personally I think there should be a difference between a sales cert and a streaming cert instead of combining them.
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poplife
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Post by poplife on Sept 7, 2014 14:36:42 GMT -5
As other have mentioned, besides many streaming options being available, I think a lot of people are reducing the amount of physical CDs they buy because of room. 3 years ago, if you told me I would've given up CDs for digital I wouldn't have believed it. But buying tons of CDs every year, adding to the piles of over 1000 CDs I already have, to only never play the disc but to just rip to my computer and play the digital files started to seem redundant. I used to always buy albums and singles because I thought that physical piece of plastic had a certain sentiment to it but I now realize that most music is so disposable that it doesn't have any value to me anymore (not every CD, but 90% of them). I haven't completely ditched CDs, but I'm completely fine with going (almost) all-digital now. There are certain artists I will always buy their physical releases but my 'need' to collect physical albums has stopped.
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