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Post by drock89 on Feb 5, 2005 1:13:04 GMT -5
This is the new single, I assume. Already moving up Mediabase and at this very moment, WIL 92.3 (Large Market) is playing it.
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Post by WakeUpOlder on Feb 5, 2005 2:43:27 GMT -5
this is my choice for the next single...and one of my personal favorites from the album. It's just a fun, tongue-and-cheek sort of song that's easy to sing along with. Great timing with spring/summer rolling around....
i think it'll do well for her
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 5, 2005 3:46:26 GMT -5
I had a feeling this was going to be the next single.
Not the best choice though, as I think it's quite weak.
Holdin' You should have been released instead, otherwise I can't think of any other song I would have released from that album.
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Post by jamatthews on Feb 5, 2005 8:50:14 GMT -5
Definitely the best choice for 4th single, and one of my favourites. However she better do a wonderful video for this, otherwise I'm going to be seriously annoyed.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 5, 2005 14:40:30 GMT -5
What does the video have to do with anything?
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Post by someguy on Feb 5, 2005 14:49:41 GMT -5
I'd like for this to be the next single, and it's looking pretty likely that it will be. If she went with a ballad, "What Happened" would've been my choice, but I think "Homewrecker" is the best possible single choice right now.
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Post by drock89 on Feb 5, 2005 14:53:36 GMT -5
As I said in the WITAC thread, I would have gone with "The Bed" for a ballad or "When It Rains" for the uptempo. This song should do fine, though. I think people will enjoy it, maybe giggle.
Steelo, the video sells the song. A great video could make the world of a difference in where the song peaks. I think Gretch could go high with this one--it's already a concept song.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 5, 2005 16:40:21 GMT -5
I guess being that CMT rarely plays vids and I don't get GAC that I would have to disagree that it "sells" the song. Some vids make songs better, like SHeDAISY's Come Home Soon and Julie Robert's Wake Up Older, but they by no means sell the songs, especially when you have a station like CMT that rarely shows vids and don't have access to GAC.
And more people have access to those 2 vid stations as compared to VH1 Country, which I do have access to.
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Post by musicfan_84 on Feb 5, 2005 16:52:40 GMT -5
I guess being that CMT rarely plays vids well you obviously dont' watch it much because from morning until about 4, they play nothing but videos.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Feb 5, 2005 18:34:10 GMT -5
well you obviously dont' watch it much because from morning until about 4, they play nothing but videos. Agreed. People who bitch about them not playing videos must never flip past the channel.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 5, 2005 18:45:11 GMT -5
You're right, I don't, because everytime I do, it's anything but vids.
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Post by reception on Feb 11, 2005 7:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by drock89 on Feb 11, 2005 7:58:59 GMT -5
Goes for adds February 22nd..
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Post by Perp on Feb 11, 2005 22:39:09 GMT -5
Thanks for supplying those links, Reception! I'm glad they're in WMA format now. I can't listen to Real Audio at work, but WMA is no problem!
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Post by reception on Feb 14, 2005 17:30:42 GMT -5
It debuted at #48 on the R&R country chart this week.
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Post by Marv on Feb 15, 2005 17:54:43 GMT -5
As hot as she is, this appears to have 'top 10' written all over it!!!!
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Post by Marv on Feb 17, 2005 1:32:15 GMT -5
She also appears to be a mortal lock to be the #1 female singles artist for the second straight year; not too shabby considering that almost nobody had even heard of her twelve months ago.
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Post by prenatt1166 on Feb 18, 2005 0:02:20 GMT -5
some early news about Gretchen's next album...
GRETCHEN WILSON COVERS BILLY HOLIDAY TUNE
According to the Tennessean, one of the new songs on Gretchen Wilson's sophomore album will be a remake of Billy Holiday's "Good Morning Heartache."
NOTE: It should be spelled BILLIE HOLIDAY
:)
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Post by reception on Feb 22, 2005 17:08:00 GMT -5
Biggest jumper of the week moving 48-38.
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Post by Marv on Feb 24, 2005 0:56:14 GMT -5
#1 most added with 40 new stations in the new R&R, and third in number of increased spins, and moves from 38-34.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 25, 2005 15:19:43 GMT -5
She also appears to be a mortal lock to be the #1 female singles artist for the second straight year; not too shabby considering that almost nobody had even heard of her twelve months ago. Mortal lock? She could disappear just as quickly as she arrived. Lots of people have a couple of hits, seem like they'll be stars, and then their second CD arrives with a thud, and they struggle for a bit, then disappear. I'm not saying that will be Gretchen's fate, and she does have some good marketing behind her. But I don't see her as a certainty. I'd put the odds at her continuing her run at 60 or 70%. Tim Mcgraw? Mortal lock to be among the 2 or 3 biggest stars. Keith Urban? Mortal lock to hit the top 3 with pretty much every song. Gretchen Wilson? She's got a good shot, but I'm not betting my retirement account on it. She's having a great run, though, and I wouldn't bet against her either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2005 19:53:54 GMT -5
Mortal lock? She could disappear just as quickly as she arrived. Lots of people have a couple of hits, seem like they'll be stars, and then their second CD arrives with a thud, and they struggle for a bit, then disappear. I'm not saying that will be Gretchen's fate, and she does have some good marketing behind her. But I don't see her as a certainty. I'd put the odds at her continuing her run at 60 or 70%. Tim Mcgraw? Mortal lock to be among the 2 or 3 biggest stars. Keith Urban? Mortal lock to hit the top 3 with pretty much every song. Gretchen Wilson? She's got a good shot, but I'm not betting my retirement account on it. She's having a great run, though, and I wouldn't bet against her either. I agree with you to a point here. Right now, though, I think Gretchen is guaranteed at least a Top 5 spot with every song she releases. She could release a single consisting of her burping the alphabet and I'm sure Country radio would give her at least a Top 10 spot for her efforts. I agree that she has some Great marketing behind her. That's pretty much all she has - Hype and Marketing. As long as she keeps up that "Redneck" image, doesn't cross over "too-far" into the Pop/Rock world, and - most importantly - keeps making them Money, they won't care what she does or what singles she releases. One thing is for sure: Gretchen and the people hyping her up as the "hottest thing ever" are sure milking her debut cd for all it's worth. A THIRD version of her Debut cd is due to be released soon.
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Post by musicfan_84 on Feb 25, 2005 20:01:53 GMT -5
And the fact that she sings true country songs ;)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2005 20:10:07 GMT -5
And the fact that she sings true country songs ;) Singing country songs has nothing to do with a country artist's success these days. When it comes to established artists, particularly industry favorites, how 'country' a song is means even less. As long as Gretchen has the hype and major industry support, she could literally release anything and be just fine. She just has to watch was she says and does, especially if she chooses to cross over full force. If she says the right things, keeps that good promo hype team behind her and keeps making money for the industry, they won't care what she does or how country any of her work is.
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Post by musicfan_84 on Feb 26, 2005 0:04:00 GMT -5
But it's not all about hype. Gretchen sings songs that country listeners like. It's simple. If you are talking about hype then you talk about Julie Roberts. Her record went gold, she's a media darling, but she has yet to score a significant hit on country radio. That is hype.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 26, 2005 11:09:27 GMT -5
But it's not all about hype. Gretchen sings songs that country listeners like. It's simple. It's rarely simple. No doubt some people listen to her music and decide that they like it, but big marketing campaigns are designed to make people think it's that simple. The bandwagon thing doesn't happen by coincidence, though it's supposed to look that way. It's carefully crafted. (Six people in my office bought Jettas two years ago and I'll bet they all consider themselves independent thinkers.) It's fine for this to happen, but it is hype. Here are the other reasons I think she's mostly hype. I'll grant that she was persistent and withstood a lot of rejection. But where's her talent? Every high school has singers with better range and expression. The musicians, whether she chose them or not, produce cheesy, generic-sounding stuff (although Cheatin' had a distinctive sound, I'll give her that). The arrangements are weak, again except for Cheatin'. The lyrics would have to improve to earn the description of "cheesy." It's true country to sing about how you're attracted to strangers but you can't act on it, not even to the extent of one dance, because you're afraid your man will leave you? Loretta Lynn must giggle every time she hears that. The pose is one of independence and strength, but the content suggests otherwise. This kind of post always comes across as more aggressive than it ought to. I'm not opposed to her succeeding, because I can imagine her making some worthwhile music some day. You can't judge a book by its cover; she's got plenty of spirit, and underneath she may have the heart to make some good music. But she'd have to take some chances, rather than living out some marketing group's idea of "daring" when everything about her music screams "playing it safe." Of course the path to the big money lies in safety, not risk. Look risky, but be conventional.
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Post by drock89 on Feb 26, 2005 11:15:10 GMT -5
Of course the path to the big money lies in safety, not risk. Look risky, but be conventional. I wouldn't say that. Shania's music, Garth's music, all were risky for their times. Reba back in the 80s was risky. And the risky albums for them are their best sellers. Gretchen is good. I like her alot. Is she cookie cutter? Ehh..kinda. She has her own sound. But I agree with Zazie: her next record needs to step it up. Sony probably wanted to play it safe with her debut, but she needs to break the rules on the next album to establish herself and guarantee she will be around in 5 years.
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Post by bamafan2102 on Feb 26, 2005 18:50:25 GMT -5
Wow! I haven't seen an artist dissected this way in years. I really don't have much for the girl but her music is decent. I really like the new song. My wife, who I would consider a "casual listener" asked me who sang Homewrecker and when I told her she said, Well at least everything she has put out has sounded different. I tend to agree because you have the all out country anthem in Redneck Woman then the country rocker with Here For The Party then the ballad with Cheatin and now the contemporary sound with Homewrecker. She(or her handlers) have done a good job of mixing her sound up. What exactly do you guys want form her? I am not defending her in any way but it seems everyone has to be impressed these days. What if she only impresses a minority of people and not the majority? I bet her second album is more of the same. If it ain't broke........ you know the saying
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Post by drock89 on Feb 26, 2005 19:40:53 GMT -5
People will tire of her if she creates "cookie cutter" albums. You're right. She has a great mix. But the most risky cut on the album is "Chariot" with the rap and heavy beat.
Her next album needs to be more risky, whatever risky may be.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 26, 2005 21:30:51 GMT -5
At least Gretchen's songs and album isn't as cheesy as what Shania writes.
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