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Post by churchchoir on Nov 4, 2013 17:15:07 GMT -5
I have actually been slow to jump onto the idea that all the "bro country" songs may be hurting the airplay success of the deeper songs, but lately I've really started to see countless situations on the chart that make this idea seem increasingly valid. I thought "Bourbon in Kentucky" was just a fluke, but lately it seems as if it's almost impossible for a slow song to make it into the top 10. I think this has really gotten worse over the past few months. Look at Miranda Lambert, who was really on a roll on the charts until her latest single, which has struggled to make the top 15. It is a bit disappointing, I must admit.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 4, 2013 18:31:00 GMT -5
I think It's unfortunate that these types of songs are being played less and less as time goes on. I love this song, but I just knew it wouldn't do good. Obviously there's still a chance but I feel that without more buzz on this one that "It Ain't The Whiskey" will fall victim to the current climate of country radio. Believe me if I had superman powers this single would get 25 adds next week and we wouldn't be talking about this. As long as this one is on the charts it will be in my top five favorite current singles at radio.
If it is going to make headway, it's got to do it soon. I feel that the Christmas shutdown and hold over will be a death blow for "It Ain't The Whiskey " if it can't get above the top 35 or so by then.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Nov 4, 2013 19:52:05 GMT -5
I'm really surprised, yet discouraged at the same time, that this hasn't made top 40 yet. However, I'm not worried yet since the song just came out and the video is supposedly on it's way (haven't caught up with the times yet), so I still have hope. Songs that have already peaked, or are about to peak, will also leave the charts eventually, so it should move up a few spots within the next few weeks.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 6, 2013 13:25:44 GMT -5
Up a paltry 131k on Billboard but at least it kept the bullet. It's up-one-day down-the-next on the MB dailies so there's no reason to think a big week is coming. But I've decided to be upbeat about its chances. This is Gary Allan, the king of the long chart run, owner of the longest chart run of the 2000's with Right Where I Need To Be, along with many other slow-movers like Smoke Rings; even some of his big hits, like Nothin' On But The Radio, took their time as well. JHomes' top 30 assessment doesn't help me much, because I don't know if that would be good enough to keep Gary on the radio. And she usually knows what to expect. But I'm still feeling somewhat good.
I'm also more hopeful that songs with some meaning will continue to have a presence on the radio. Miranda's problems are that this is a 5th single plus she has a much faster climber on the radio at the same time. Given that, her single isn't doing too badly. Kacey's song is off to a decent start. Eli Young Band had the greatest gainer and Sheryl Crow the hotshot debut. Luke Bryan missed #1 with his feeble song and is trying something a little better this time.
It's not a lot, I know, but country radio's cyclical in its approach to generating hits, and I know we aren't going back to Patty Loveless and Travis Tritt and Mary-Chapin and Alan Jackson, but I've talked myself into a little bit of hope.
Gary's song needs to be in the range of #40 by the holidays, I think, in order to avoid getting bounced by all the new releases that will start getting airplay in January. Even that might not be good enough, but see above. It's Gary.
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Post by someguy on Nov 11, 2013 21:45:25 GMT -5
This was a rough week, as it lost the bullet and slid back to #49. I know I said I thought it would have a tough time even making the top 40, so I can't say that I'm surprised, but I am disappointed. This is a very good song, and it appears that Gary's comeback may be over as quickly as it started. It could still turn things around but, with the holidays looming, I fear that this could be one of the casualties.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 12, 2013 14:59:39 GMT -5
The week gets off to a good start, and the song moves up 109k with two handsful of added spins. Not going to shatter any records for gains, but 3 or 4 days like this will enable the song to re-bullet and maybe proceed up the chart a few positions.
A few recurrents will help too. Thomas Rhett, Miranda Lambert, maybe Love & Theft will be leaving, maybe Jon Pardi too. Gary could pass Leah Turner easily enough. No doubt the week won't go perfectly according to my design, but getting past 2 million impressions with a 3 position bump and a re-bullet would make me feel more optimistic. This one has to survive December, finally make its debut in the top 40; and then maybe it can wend its mysterious, slow way toward the top 20. Emphasis on slow.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 12, 2013 15:03:09 GMT -5
The week gets off to a good start, and the song moves up 109k with two handsful of added spins. Not going to shatter any records for gains, but 3 or 4 days like this will enable the song to re-bullet and maybe proceed up the chart a few positions. A few recurrents will help too. Thomas Rhett, Miranda Lambert, maybe Love & Theft will be leaving, maybe Jon Pardi too. Gary could pass Leah Turner easily enough. No doubt the week won't go perfectly according to my design, but getting past 2 million impressions with a 3 position bump and a re-bullet would make me feel more optimistic. This one has to survive December, finally make its debut in the top 40; and then maybe it can wend its mysterious, slow way toward the top 20. Emphasis on slow. I doubt Jon Pardi will go. It was an 'airpower' winner this week. Also, LnT will likely get their bullet back. As for this song, I hope it does well but I doubt it gets even to Top 40.
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Post by mylifeback on Nov 12, 2013 15:43:43 GMT -5
This is being performed on Leno tomorrow night (Wednesday) per Gary's team. Fingers crossed for this song; I love it and the entire album is so good.
@garyallan .@garyallan will be premiering “It Ain’t The Whiskey” tomorrow on @jayleno, starting at 11:35pm/10:35c on @nbc! -Team GA
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Post by Zazie on Nov 12, 2013 15:57:24 GMT -5
The week gets off to a good start, and the song moves up 109k with two handsful of added spins. Not going to shatter any records for gains, but 3 or 4 days like this will enable the song to re-bullet and maybe proceed up the chart a few positions. A few recurrents will help too. Thomas Rhett, Miranda Lambert, maybe Love & Theft will be leaving, maybe Jon Pardi too. Gary could pass Leah Turner easily enough. No doubt the week won't go perfectly according to my design, but getting past 2 million impressions with a 3 position bump and a re-bullet would make me feel more optimistic. This one has to survive December, finally make its debut in the top 40; and then maybe it can wend its mysterious, slow way toward the top 20. Emphasis on slow. I doubt Jon Pardi will go. It was an 'airpower' winner this week. Also, LnT will likely get their bullet back. As for this song, I hope it does well but I doubt it gets even to Top 40. Pardi might well stay on and manage a 40+ week run. I was reacting to his 471k overnight loss on MB, but there can be lots of reasons for that. As for LnT, they've been spinning their wheels so long that their chart presence is pretty questionable, but why not another week? Or ten.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 12, 2013 16:06:47 GMT -5
I doubt Jon Pardi will go. It was an 'airpower' winner this week. Also, LnT will likely get their bullet back. As for this song, I hope it does well but I doubt it gets even to Top 40. Pardi might well stay on and manage a 40+ week run. I was reacting to his 471k overnight loss on MB, but there can be lots of reasons for that. As for LnT, they've been spinning their wheels so long that their chart presence is pretty questionable, but why not another week? Or ten. I still think Pardi is poised for a top 15 peak. As for Love and Theft, I can't get a feel for their song. It could die next week or continue till January. Nothing surprises me anymore. Gary's increases today give me a sliver of hope though. We all can agree that "It Ain't The Whiskey" is running a race to get high enough before Christmas.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 13, 2013 11:54:23 GMT -5
All ANY of these songs on the chart want to do is manage to stay on until that January Chart. So as to not 'disappear' on 'em.
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Post by churchchoir on Nov 13, 2013 12:33:21 GMT -5
It actually seems the songs at the bottom of the chart take less of a hit during the winter slowdown, as they hadn't been getting much airplay to begin with, so they don't have a whole lot to lose. However, songs at the very bottom of the chart can be easily knocked off by the holiday songs, so as long as Gary can get high enough that three to five songs passing "It Ain't the Whiskey" for a week won't throw him out of the top 50, I think he's fine in regard to his single being killed by the holiday shutdown. However, regardless of whether he survives the winter, I don't see this going up much higher. There are a good number of songs that should be falling off the chart by the end of the year, so we'll see if he gets a boost of airplay over the next few weeks.
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Post by tim on Nov 14, 2013 0:41:26 GMT -5
Don't usually watch much tv, but randomly happened to catch Gary performing this gem on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno tonight. He killed it! Hopefully this helps give it a shock on the charts, but I doubt it.
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Post by Zazie on Nov 14, 2013 10:53:14 GMT -5
Up 137k overnight, its biggest gain in a long time. I can't connect that to the TV appearance, which might make its presence felt later in the form of a few more adds from PD's whose stations get calls about the song. I'm not going to bet my life savings on this happening, but in any case the song should rebullet and climb a few positions toward the top 40. I'm hoping for a BB audience in the neighborhood of 2.5 million next week.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 18, 2013 15:38:54 GMT -5
Gary might be proving me wrong here. It's up over 100 spins and at almost a 2.8 million audience on mediabase. There should be quite a few songs going recurrent the next two weeks and no real heavy hitters behind him. My goal for "It Ain't The Whiskey" is to get into that top 40 with audience around 4.5 to 5.0 million. That might be enough for a long push into 2014. The most critical phase of this songs chart run is now until Christmas. There will most likely be a influx of new singles at the start of the new year as well. Still am treading lightly, but the past two weeks gives me optimism.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 10, 2013 17:55:14 GMT -5
Gary might be proving me wrong here. It's up over 100 spins and at almost a 2.8 million audience on mediabase. There should be quite a few songs going recurrent the next two weeks and no real heavy hitters behind him. My goal for "It Ain't The Whiskey" is to get into that top 40 with audience around 4.5 to 5.0 million. That might be enough for a long push into 2014. The most critical phase of this songs chart run is now until Christmas. There will most likely be a influx of new singles at the start of the new year as well. Still am treading lightly, but the past two weeks gives me optimism. I'm not sure your optimism is justified at this point, but the song is now 11 weeks into its run and it has clinched a position on the Billboard chart through the holidays and into January. So at least we'll get a chance to find out whether it can gain a foothold and climb into the top 30 or better in the new year. I am trying to talk myself into believe in that outcome. So far, I'm not convinced but I'm definitely hoping.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 11, 2013 10:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by Zazie on Dec 14, 2013 14:34:37 GMT -5
This one's sneaking back into top 40 contention on the new Billboard chart we'll see Monday. Might finish at 42 or 41. On MB I don't know who goes recurrent this week, if anyone, but Gary could finish at 42 or 41 there as well. So if the Christmas songs don't pass him, he's got a great shot at finishing in the top 40 on both charts the following week.
I'm reduced to hoping for a top 40 finish by Gary and George, as if those would mean anything. Pathetic. I should work on Christmas-present wrapping.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 14, 2013 15:30:36 GMT -5
This one's sneaking back into top 40 contention on the new Billboard chart we'll see Monday. Might finish at 42 or 41. On MB I don't know who goes recurrent this week, if anyone, but Gary could finish at 42 or 41 there as well. So if the Christmas songs don't pass him, he's got a great shot at finishing in the top 40 on both charts the following week. I'm reduced to hoping for a top 40 finish by Gary and George, as if those would mean anything. Pathetic. I should work on Christmas-present wrapping. Believe it or not, I have actually thought of leading some kind of campaign to lift Gary and George up the charts. Like going old school and dropping pan-flits from a plane. Or maybe a news anchor or ESPN anchor or radio host could mention on his radio or television show "Hey be sure to call and request It Ain't The Whiskey or I Got A Car on your radio station. Perhaps a prominent person in the spotlight could mention the songs on their twitter handle on a semi daily basis. This would be a good time to be Tom Brady, Seth Rogen, or Ryan Seacrest. Just any dirty unnatural method to help get massive buzz surrounding them. Obviously I'm 100% joking, but it has crossed my mind more than once. That's how badly I want "Whiskey" or "Car" to be hits. In the past I would not have been in such a live or die attitude. But I see a tedious shift in country radio lately that might put these songs out of the mainstream for good. Now could something like Garth riding in on a white horse or maybe Kacey Musgraves and Charlie Worsham breaking into superstars happen to save the day, sure, anythings possible in this industry. Back to "It Ain't The Whiskey" though. I like Zazie have lowered my expectations for this song. I would be tickled pink if this was even a top 30 hit. It's at a point where I think it has maybe saved itself for a January run and stay off the hold over weeks, but its not quite at the exact point I wanted it to be sure of that. Right now I will say it will wind up doing what "Kiss Me When I'm Down" did, which is a peak of 36 to 38 and no more, with a 25% chance of going top 30....Now for it being a top 15 or 20 hit....That's just crazy talk....
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 15, 2013 1:13:56 GMT -5
Official Music Video: :)
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Post by lsujules on Dec 16, 2013 17:38:35 GMT -5
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Post by Kari on Dec 16, 2013 18:03:47 GMT -5
It's brilliant and quite honestly, I do not know who else could pull this one off. It's a throwback song lyrically and I think Gary is courageous to put this one out there. I really hope country radio will embrace this one. It would be a shame not to.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 28, 2013 12:55:01 GMT -5
This song has 2 weeks, maybe 3, to crack the MB top 40, get some spins on the countdown shows, crack the Billboard top 40 as a result, and as a result have a couple of dozen stations start to spin it.
What are the chances? I can't be wildly optimistic but I can still find (invent?) some hope. Gary isn't exactly a chart newbie who is going to get a 40-week run, but let's hope that he can get one more shot at moving this song well up into the top 40.
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Post by countryman87 on Dec 28, 2013 13:21:42 GMT -5
Unless I miss my guess I think Gary will be on ct40 next week. It probably wont be on the official MB top 40 but Bob Kingsley usually takes out songs that would be recurrent any other week with that being said taking out the 2 Xmas songs plus the songs that have been falling for 3+ weeks now should put Gary in the 38-40 range.
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Post by Zazie on Jan 1, 2014 22:48:26 GMT -5
Unless I miss my guess I think Gary will be on ct40 next week. It probably wont be on the official MB top 40 but Bob Kingsley usually takes out songs that would be recurrent any other week with that being said taking out the 2 Xmas songs plus the songs that have been falling for 3+ weeks now should put Gary in the 38-40 range. I am unable to remember from year to year what Bob does at the holidays. I hope you've got it right. I see that Gary slides up 46-43 on the 1/11 Billboard, but there he will not benefit from songs going recurrent next week. Unless BB changes their pattern, they'll keep on the songs that rebullet. Still, Billboard top 40 doesn't matter in terms of access to the countdown spins, so I'm focusing on MB (for once) and hoping Gary gets the treatment you make such a good case for. This song's only at 2 million in Billboard audience, and something has to happen to get him into the 3 million range soon. Countdown spins this weekend would certainly be helpful.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 23, 2014 14:28:27 GMT -5
Well Gary has put up some steady gains the past few days, but "It Ain't The Whiskey" is working on week #18 and hasn't cracked the top 40 as of yet and just barely crossed the 3 million threshold. The fact that nobody should be recurrent next week doesn't help, because every little detail I would gladly take at this point. I would expect Charlie Worsham to pass Gary by next week and I just don't see this cracking the top 35. It's going to have to wait another two weeks at least to get those countdown spins, but even if it does, it's got to fight the new music heading into the top 40 by then. Plus the 3 or 4 adds it's been getting won't help much at that point either.
I wish this song would be a hit but right now, it might be a struggle to outpeak the final chart position that "Kiss Me When I'm Down" had.
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Post by someguy on Feb 10, 2014 20:47:57 GMT -5
Unless this can turn it around, I fear that this might be its last week on the charts. It slides from 41-43 and loses over 200K in week 20. Unfortunately, this is one prediction I'm not happy to have been right about: I do like this song a lot, but I don't think it's the right choice at all right now. Unfortunately, I think it'll be lucky to crack the top 40 in the current readio climate. Had this been following a hit, I'd say it could maybe make the top 20/25. But since it's not, I think it'll struggle to even go top 40. Something like "Tough Goodbye", "Sand In My Soul" or "No Worries" probably would have worked better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 20:55:42 GMT -5
^I agree. For the last couple months, really, I'd been dreading the time when this would hit the 20-week mark. I mean, 20 weeks on the chart and still not top 40? MCA is likely to pull this now...I'm sure they've been trying [to get more airplay for this] but radio just hasn't been receptive to this tune, unfortunately :(
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 14, 2014 19:39:12 GMT -5
What an awful story that turned into a great story. Apparently a toddler who was diagnosed with cancer was scammed out of 9,000 dollars from a man who falsely promised to bring a country artist to help raise money for the little girls treatment. He said he could arrange a benefit concert to help pay for her medical bills, but pocketed the money and was arrested. But the local station and Gary Allan decided to set up a special acoustic show with all proceeds to go towards her treatment. Way to go Gary! Full Story
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Post by Andy on Feb 14, 2014 21:08:40 GMT -5
What an awful story that turned into a great story. Apparently a toddler who was diagnosed with cancer was scammed out of 9,000 dollars from a man who falsely promised to bring a country artist to help raise money for the little girls treatment. He said he could arrange a benefit concert to help pay for her medical bills, but pocketed the money and was arrested. But the local station and Gary Allan decided to set up a special acoustic show with all proceeds to go towards her treatment. Way to go Gary! Full StoryI read about this. What a despicable, awful crime. Good on Gary for helping that family out.
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