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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 15, 2014 10:46:02 GMT -5
What an awful story that turned into a great story. Apparently a toddler who was diagnosed with cancer was scammed out of 9,000 dollars from a man who falsely promised to bring a country artist to help raise money for the little girls treatment. He said he could arrange a benefit concert to help pay for her medical bills, but pocketed the money and was arrested. But the local station and Gary Allan decided to set up a special acoustic show with all proceeds to go towards her treatment. Way to go Gary! Full StoryI read about this. What a despicable, awful crime. Good on Gary for helping that family out. Love that Gary Allan. Showing that Every Storm DOES Run Out Of Rain.
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 15, 2014 12:17:10 GMT -5
After all that has happened in his personal life, is it any wonder that Gary Allen would help a family and child who was scammed? What a great outcome
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 19:45:17 GMT -5
This was without a bullet in week #20, and I didn't think it would manage to re-bullet this week. I figured it would go recurrent tomorrow and free up a space on the chart. But now it's looking like it may re-bullet. It gained 100k on the 2/14 update and then lost 50k yesterday, but gained another 160k today.
On Monday's MB update it had 3.462 million, and as of right now it's at 3.481 million. The tiniest loss in Billboard could send it recurrent, since this would be its 21st week. I figured MCA would just let it go but it might stick around for another 2-3 weeks after all.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 17, 2014 5:18:40 GMT -5
I love this song, but the first time I heard it, I knew it would be too much of a downer song to make it on radio playlists. That's probably why Gary doesn't have many hits — most of his songs are NOT especially happy.
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Post by countryman87 on Feb 17, 2014 9:49:27 GMT -5
This may hang around for at least another week because it will pickup the CT40 spins this weekend.
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Post by countryfan15 on Feb 17, 2014 10:36:28 GMT -5
I love this song, but the first time I heard it, I knew it would be too much of a downer song to make it on radio playlists. That's probably why Gary doesn't have many hits — most of his songs are NOT especially happy. But Country music used to be a decent mix of downer, sad songs and happy, upbeat songs. I'm glad Gary has always stuck by what he does even though he doesn't have many # 1's or recognition industry wise. It's sad to see this song tank the way it has and even sadder to see country music fade away from songs that reflect real pain.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 18, 2014 14:22:28 GMT -5
This was without a bullet in week #20, and I didn't think it would manage to re-bullet this week. I figured it would go recurrent tomorrow and free up a space on the chart. But now it's looking like it may re-bullet. It gained 100k on the 2/14 update and then lost 50k yesterday, but gained another 160k today. On Monday's MB update it had 3.462 million, and as of right now it's at 3.481 million. The tiniest loss in Billboard could send it recurrent, since this would be its 21st week. I figured MCA would just let it go but it might stick around for another 2-3 weeks after all. It's still eligible for a grace week, if its loss is tiny and BB thinks the label is still promoting the song. Naturally it would be better if it re-bullets, but the week 20 loss-of-bullet doesn't count as the grace week. Who knows whether BB pays attention to their own rules anyway? But with the song cracking the top 40 on MB this week, meaning it gets Bob K spins this coming weekend, there's some reason to think it deserves a grace week (as it is sure to rebullet on the 3/8 Billboard thanks to the countdown.) There's always the hope that a song like this will pick up momentum by generating listener requests at stations that play the countdowns but haven't yet added the song. It's probably a thin hope. It may even be a desperate hope. But just give me one chart, tonight's BB, with Gary's song still on it and I will be able to talk myself into optimism. How long did that Lee Brice song stay on the chart? Are you paying attention, Gary?
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 18, 2014 14:39:12 GMT -5
Hopefully the countdown spins will help this song, but I do think it came a day late and a dollar short. Certainly without cracking the top 40 on Mediabase this week, Gary's song would have been all but done. What I'm hoping is Gary maintaining the countdown spins for two to three weeks. It's unlikely to save "It Ain't The Whiskey" cause if stations don't continue to add it the song, all it's doing is delaying the inevitable. Luckily there isn't too much to worry about behind him other than the out of nowhere surging Craig Campbell with his 15 Clear Channel adds.
I too will hold out what thread of hope this has but it still is looking like that matching of "Kiss Me When I'm Down" peak I predicted is looking more and more likely.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 18, 2014 17:03:22 GMT -5
Hopefully the countdown spins will help this song, but I do think it came a day late and a dollar short. Certainly without cracking the top 40 on Mediabase this week, Gary's song would have been all but done. What I'm hoping is Gary maintaining the countdown spins for two to three weeks. It's unlikely to save "It Ain't The Whiskey" cause if stations don't continue to add it the song, all it's doing is delaying the inevitable. Luckily there isn't too much to worry about behind him other than the out of nowhere surging Craig Campbell with his 15 Clear Channel adds. I too will hold out what thread of hope this has but it still is looking like that matching of "Kiss Me When I'm Down" peak I predicted is looking more and more likely. Good point. The top 40 position on the chart has to last. On the other hand, he does gain the Kingsley spins this weekend and some of his rivals (Nichols, Eli Young Band look the most dangerous) do not gain those spins. And he will have an advantage the week after that, too. As long as he doesn't drop out of the top 40. Let's see -- Paslay will leave the chart, which is +1 for Gary. I think Leah Turner could go recurrent, because I think a spins gain/loss of 0 counts as one of your drop weeks on MB. And if I'm wrong about that, she could easily fall enough to drop below Gary. On the other hand, there's nothing stopping her from re-bulleting, and her audience total today was up. I think if he picks up 2 positions from falling songs and adds a little during the week, then the countdown spins will come along and guarantee him a top 40 position for a second week. And we're going to have to watch this on a week-by-week basis, because all of it could slip away really fast. The promotion has been unspectacular, but to be fair, this is a darker song than the millions of slide-over-here take-a-sip songs that are so popular now, so maybe it's hard to promote. And Gary's not a young newcomer. I'd like to see it get another 4-6 weeks on the chart. I'm not betting on that happening. Heck, I'm not even especially confident it will be on the new BB chart tonight. Maybe they'll have to re-add it, though.
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Post by Kari on Feb 18, 2014 19:07:22 GMT -5
I hope it hangs on. It's song writing at it's finest.
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Post by someguy on Mar 10, 2014 19:49:17 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised that this hung on long enough to make it, but it moves 42-40* in its 24th week. I really can't see it making it much higher, but I'm glad that "It Ain't The Whiskey" was at least able to make the Top 40.
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Post by gonecountry on Mar 10, 2014 20:32:12 GMT -5
The fact that this finally cracked the Top 40, that "I Got A Car" is slowly moving up the Top 30, and "I Hold On" is making a run for #1 shows that Country music hasn't completely gone over to the dark side. While I enjoy some "bro country" (even the much maligned TMKON), I enjoy it more like you'd enjoy the occasional Twinkie - it lacks in substance and you'll get sick if you eat too many, but once in a while it won't kill you. I'm hoping the "patient isn't dead yet" and country music realizes you can play songs of substance.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 18, 2014 14:41:38 GMT -5
Although I'm not surprised in "It Ain't The Whiskey's" chart position, I am surprised it's still on the charts at all by this point. 26 weeks on and Gary is sitting at #39 on Mediabase after being #38 on this weeks chart with a healthy gain for his song at 77 spins today. I made a prediction that this song would match the peak of "Kiss Me When I'm Down" (#38) in February of 2011. Ideally I would love to be way off and this could climb to at least the top 30, but I have to think the end is near at this point. Unfortunately outside of when this was first released, Gary hasn't had a great adds week in quite a long time (6 adds being it's highest a few weeks ago). This week it nabs 2 more adds, and it has kept it's top 40 position to retain the countdown spins. But with little support in terms of new stations hopping on board, these next two or three weeks will be it I would think. If he did pull a moderate climb, it comes at a pretty good time with at least 5 singles set to go recurrent the next two charts.
In the end, perhaps "It Ain't The Whiskey" can garner a few extra spots with some recurrents, and peak between #36 to #34. But on the other hand the Swon Brothers and Eric Paslay are likely to pass him this week.
26 weeks on, and is still my favorite on the chart though. ;)
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Post by Zazie on Mar 19, 2014 21:38:48 GMT -5
If the song can keep gaining, even small amounts, for the next couple of weeks, there will be enough songs going recurrent at MB so that Gary will be safe from dropping below #40 and losing his countdown spins.
But will it have a shot at the top 30 and the additional countdowns? I have my doubts. This song's behind George Strait's and I'm not even confident George can reach the top 30.
There's still hope, though. We're watching this song in Billboard chart week 26 and it's still gaining. And there are spins available to gain because there are so many spins being taken away from Ballard, Lady Ant, Aldean, Kip Moore, and Brad Paisley. I'm hoping for a modest gain of 500k a week for the next 3-4 weeks. Of course it hasn't happened so far, so I have no confidence it will happen now -- but it might.
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Post by gonecountry on Mar 19, 2014 22:34:34 GMT -5
Hope springs eternal. Let's keep our fingers crossed
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 5, 2014 14:58:28 GMT -5
Well it looks like Gary's valiant effort has finally lost it's fight. Down over 40 spins as of today, and with it being 28 weeks on with no further support of adding stations, "It Ain't The Whiskey" looks about done. Usually it be nice to brag about being right, but in this case, if there was ever a time I wish I could have been dead wrong it was now. At the moment it appears that either #35 or #36 will be it's final peak position on Mediabase come Sunday. Though the only reason it achieved that was due to fortunate timing with some house cleaning.
In the end, I predicted this back in October to not fair well chart wise due to the type of song that "It Ain't The Whiskey" was. It did barely outpeak "Kiss Me When I'm Down" (#38) which is a small success since I thought it would at best match that position.
Hopefully Gary can come back with another successful lead single from a new album like "Every Storm" did. Though I'm wondering how much longer if at all Gary can compete in today's country radio climate. He's had many songs have low disappointing peaks, but at least he seems to land one to two hits per album. I will say that the one thing I was wrong about here was the length of time this spent on the chart. I certainly did not see this lasting til April.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 15:56:47 GMT -5
What an awful story that turned into a great story. Apparently a toddler who was diagnosed with cancer was scammed out of 9,000 dollars from a man who falsely promised to bring a country artist to help raise money for the little girls treatment. He said he could arrange a benefit concert to help pay for her medical bills, but pocketed the money and was arrested. But the local station and Gary Allan decided to set up a special acoustic show with all proceeds to go towards her treatment. Way to go Gary! Full StoryI read about this. What a despicable, awful crime. Good on Gary for helping that family out. Wow, how awesome of Gary to do that. It seems like Country stars are always doing something good for others. I adore "It Ain't The Whiskey," but I'm not the least bit surprised about the underwhelming chart run. That said, I commend Gary immensely for proving you can still be a mainstream artist and put stellar music out there. Frankly, I wish there more artists out there like Gary, who put out great material without worrying about sales or making money for the record company.
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Post by Steven on Apr 5, 2014 16:34:46 GMT -5
What a terrible crime. I guess money is more important to him than friendship. What an awesome deed Gary did.
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Post by someguy on Apr 5, 2014 19:12:54 GMT -5
Well it looks like Gary's valiant effort has finally lost it's fight. Down over 40 spins as of today, and with it being 28 weeks on with no further support of adding stations, "It Ain't The Whiskey" looks about done. Usually it be nice to brag about being right, but in this case, if there was ever a time I wish I could have been dead wrong it was now. At the moment it appears that either #35 or #36 will be it's final peak position on Mediabase come Sunday. Though the only reason it achieved that was due to fortunate timing with some house cleaning. In the end, I predicted this back in October to not fair well chart wise due to the type of song that "It Ain't The Whiskey" was. It did barely outpeak "Kiss Me When I'm Down" (#38) which is a small success since I thought it would at best match that position. Hopefully Gary can come back with another successful lead single from a new album like "Every Storm" did. Though I'm wondering how much longer if at all Gary can compete in today's country radio climate. He's had many songs have low disappointing peaks, but at least he seems to land one to two hits per album. I will say that the one thing I was wrong about here was the length of time this spent on the chart. I certainly did not see this lasting til April. Gary also get a grace week on Billboard last week, so if they follow their own rules, any sort of loss should have him pulled from their chart on Monday. He did better than I thought he would with this song. I predicted that he would miss the top 40, and he was able to make it up to #36 and last 27 weeks. That's an accomplishment for a song like this in the current radio climate. He does seem to be able to bounce back from underperforming songs and albums, so I'm also hopeful that his next lead single will be another big hit. Time is ticking on his radio career, sure, but there are a group of artists who started in the mid-late 90s who can still score occasional hits. I'm hoping that Gary continues to be one of them.
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Post by Zazie on Apr 7, 2014 20:46:01 GMT -5
He had a bullet on last week's BB chart, despite a loss of 107k in audience. That's because he had a gain of one spin for the week -- cutting it awfully close -- and that too can provide a bullet under BB's increasingly hard to understand rules.
So Gary is eligible for a grace week on tonight's chart. Besides, I'm not sure he won't have a bullet based on the simplest possible reason -- an increase in audience. I don't think he gained much, but he might have gained a small amount. I give him a 70% chance to get a bullet and a 90% chance to get either a bullet or a grace week.
The song appears to be running out of weeks, though. He lost 25 spins on this morning's MB update, and that has to reverse itself or the song is going to be gone for the most obvious reason, that it will finally lose its core stations. I'm not tired of it at all. Of course I've never heard it on the radio. I think this is a very strong song, and I agree with someguy that it overperformed on the chart -- 27 weeks is not at all bad. His next lead single might represent the end of the line for him, but I hope he has one more big hit left in him.
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Post by Marv on Apr 13, 2014 23:37:13 GMT -5
If I had to rank the most disappointing chart runs of 2014, this would be second to 'I Got A Car' on my list.
This format has really lost its way IMHO, in spite of the sky-high levels of listenership nationwide.
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Post by someguy on Apr 14, 2014 20:52:27 GMT -5
This officially goes recurrent tonight. I think it actually did well, considering.
I doubt anything else will get released, but "Tough Goodbye" came on shuffle on my iPod the other day, and it really stood out. I think it would be about the only thing left on the album that would have a shot at success at this point, though the chances of another single getting released are next to none.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 14, 2014 20:54:38 GMT -5
This officially goes recurrent tonight. I think it actually did well, considering. I doubt anything else will get released, but "Tough Goodbye" came on shuffle on my iPod the other day, and it really stood out. I think it would be about the only thing left on the album that would have a shot at success at this point, though the chances of another single getting released are next to none. It's probably in their best interests to move on to his next lead single but I still think "Sand In My Soul" could become a hit if they wanted to put another single out. While I still loved "Pieces" as a single I think in retrospect it was a mistake releasing it over "Tough Goodbye". :(
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 14, 2014 21:12:24 GMT -5
This officially goes recurrent tonight. I think it actually did well, considering. I was thinking the same thing. Pretty bad when a Mediabase peak of #35 and a stay of nearly 30 weeks is an achievement. I agree on the notion to move on to the next project. I think it would be best for Gary's long term future, or perhaps short term future judging how country radio is trending. Gary needs to stay on the airwaves as long as possible.
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Post by gonecountry on Apr 14, 2014 21:17:07 GMT -5
I think they should move on to the next project as well. I really do think Pieces being released as the second single was a misstep. I think A Tough Goodbye would have done better, it was catchy. I played this CD many times and I still have a hard time remembering how Pieces even goes. There were many more catchy tunes IMO (Drop, Sand in My Soul, Bones) and not saying they all would have succeeded at radio, I think it is a challenge when a song isn't that memorable, IMO.
Viva La Gary! He is a true original (in a sea of poseurs)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 21:29:09 GMT -5
I would like another single but I could see why they would move on; it makes sense. Still, if Gary isn't ready with new material and if MCA is up for the challenge (they've only got slow-climbers from George Strait & David Nail out now, and a new Kip Moore tune waiting in the wings), I'd love a release of either "Sand In My Soul" or "Tough Goodbye". I could see either going at least top 30, maybe doing even better than that.
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Post by T on Apr 15, 2014 0:30:03 GMT -5
I'm really hoping radio reconsiders this song & we see Gary move up this week guys"" this song should go country #1 but i never even heard it on the radio:( i hope its not over. .
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Post by churchchoir on Apr 15, 2014 0:59:02 GMT -5
^Sadly, this song is definitely done. Billboard sent it recurrent today and it's down 173 spins since last week on Mediabase. "It Ain't the Whiskey" peaked at #35 on Mediabase and #36 on Billboard.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 15, 2014 1:02:39 GMT -5
I'm really hoping radio reconsiders this song & we see Gary move up this week guys"" this song should go country #1 but i never even heard it on the radio:( i hope its not over. . Unfortunately this masterful song is finished on the chart. Gary I'm sure will deliver a great lead single in the near future though. He could throw another single from Set You Free, but I predict a lead single from a new record is where MCA will turn next.
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