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Post by bluedog6 on Dec 8, 2013 12:44:56 GMT -5
I don't claim to be a traditionalist (anyone who reads this board knows that I'm a pretty big fan of people like Keith Urban & Hunter Hayes, among others), but all I can think of when I hear these guys is "wrong genre". The songs themselves definitely aren't bad (in fact I agree that they're pretty catchy with decent lyrics), but I just don't hear anything country in their vocals or in the production. Seeing the buzz from the radio tour, it doesn't surprise me that this is doing well. What does surprise me is that country radio is embracing such a boy band/pop duo so well, while artists with a much more country sound continue to struggle and are forced to take the slow road up the radio charts. You'd think I would've learned by now that country radio is continuing to get further and further away from country music... Dan + Shay have some good songs and a nice sound, but if we're going to continue to have genre-based radio formats, I wish they would play the music more obviously rooted in that genre. But I guess it all goes back to the record labels too...they are the ones pushing these new acts and this new country music out to country radio, most likely because country radio has continued to shift more and more to the pop/rock side over the last few years. The genre lines are blurring and the stuff that isn't rooted in one genre or another winds up selling more for the simple reason that it has multi-genre appeal, and I think country radio has just become obsessed with trying to tap into all of these new 'country' fans. You can say that music evolves and trends come and go, and I agree with all of that, but the fact remains that there actually are still people making the more 'traditional' type of country, yet their home format's radio stations have all but abandoned them. It's easier for me to accept new styles from Carrie Underwood or Keith Urban or Lady Antebellum (etc) because they've all shown a deep appreciation to the genre and they've all at least put out quite a few 'countrier' tunes, but I guess out of all the new acts getting pushed to country radio, Dan + Shay is the least country I've heard yet. And that's the issue that I have...the people who are actually staying true to country music don't really have a home on the radio format that should be their own--the stations that still call themselves country. Artists like Josh Turner, Easton Corbin, Ashley Monroe, Kacey Musgraves, Kellie Pickler, Chris Stapleton, Greg Bates, James Wesley, Chris Janson, etc...they have a much tougher time getting played (some obviously more than others), despite making music that is more rooted within the country genre. When it came to posting in this thread, I'd been trying to bite my tongue, but I couldn't hold back any longer. So, I guess this is my grumpy post for the day. I definitely have nothing against these guys, but I guess it just seems that the more 'trendier' and 'poppier' an act is, the easier chance they have to break through at country radio, and that just seems wrong to me. I love this post. Sums up nearly everything I feel about the state of current country music radio. As for this song, I have two problems with it. First is I get the same feeling as I do about Keith Urban and Miranda Lambert's new single (gosh I turn it off every time and I can't even remember the title, LOL). That is that the first verse goes along nice and easy and then BAM! the production on the chorus hits me in the head and knocks me over and I don't mean that in a good way. It just sounds so loud and busy. Second is I can never understand why production for duos almost always treats than as a lead singer with back up vocals. Going to show my age, but I always think of this song I am going to mention when I think about how the vocal track for a duo should sound. Remember "One Toke Over the Line" by Brewer and Shipley. When I listen to that song I can easily pick out both the lead vocal and the harmony as if I were listening to two distinct voices. I rarely come across this with today's music as the lead vocal always seems to be billion times louder than the harmony. Actually in the Dan and Shay song, it's not to bad on the first verse, but all is lost after than. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 9, 2013 12:17:37 GMT -5
Before I heard of Dan + Shay and I heard this on the radio, I could have sworn it was Rascal Flatts. This one had a hot start, but it has cooled off the past couple of days. EVERYTHING's cooling off now. Christmas Music.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 9, 2013 14:20:52 GMT -5
These guys might as well do a "boyband" medley in their shows. They fit right in with that group! I guess BSB would be Country today if they were just making their debut.
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Post by joey2002 on Dec 9, 2013 14:27:01 GMT -5
Before I heard of Dan + Shay and I heard this on the radio, I could have sworn it was Rascal Flatts. This one had a hot start, but it has cooled off the past couple of days. If, by cooling off, you mean gaining around 500K on Mediabase each of the past 3 days...
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Post by jughead on Dec 15, 2013 21:06:44 GMT -5
Just noticed this move into the top 25 on MB. 2014 will be a big year for these guys, hopefully.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 15, 2013 21:28:35 GMT -5
They just need to send their music to Top 40 Pop stations where it belongs.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 13, 2014 21:54:30 GMT -5
Well this song is still kicking at a pretty good clip still after the new year. To be honest I thought once it hit the top 30 it would slow down quite a bit to the amazing speed it had through the top 50 and 40. I think it's pretty jarring to see that this has pretty much identical plays to Jerrod Niemann's single just below him, though "19 You + Me" has about 2.7 more in audience (Mediabase Chart). I think that this will see a fairly steady climb to the top 10 and #1 is not out of the question right now. The head of Warner Music Nashville John Esposito loves these guys, and is obviously all in with their music. To be honest I have had this song ware on me the past few weeks. I still adore the imagery and the flow of the chorus, but it seems my mood about loving this song has changed. I don't know if it's hitting a burn rate or if the more pop country I hear the less I like songs like this. I do still really like the song, as I think the songwriting and vocal delivery are superb. It's evident that Dan + Shay are nearly impossible to not like once you have seen the kind of guys they are. Maybe they can be a refreshing new sense of humor in the genre since Blake's ego has gone through the roof. Dan + Shay Radio Tour Week 9
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 13, 2014 22:05:00 GMT -5
Thank you for the update!
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Post by joey2002 on Jan 14, 2014 0:21:51 GMT -5
Well this song is still kicking at a pretty good clip still after the new year. To be honest I thought once it hit the top 30 it would slow down quite a bit to the amazing speed it had through the top 50 and 40. I think it's pretty jarring to see that this has pretty much identical plays to Jerrod Niemann's single just below him, though "19 You + Me" has about 2.7 more in audience (Mediabase Chart). I think that this will see a fairly steady climb to the top 10 and #1 is not out of the question right now. The head of Warner Music Nashville John Esposito loves these guys, and is obviously all in with their music. To be honest I have had this song ware on me the past few weeks. I still adore the imagery and the flow of the chorus, but it seems my mood about loving this song has changed. I don't know if it's hitting a burn rate or if the more pop country I hear the less I like songs like this. I do still really like the song, as I think the songwriting and vocal delivery are superb. It's evident that Dan + Shay are nearly impossible to not like once you have seen the kind of guys they are. Maybe they can be a refreshing new sense of humor in the genre since Blake's ego has gone through the roof. Dan + Shay Radio Tour Week 9I just heard "Stop, Drop, and Roll". What a catchy summer tune which sounds like a future #1... these guys really remind me of Rascal Flatts.
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Post by dajross6 on Jan 16, 2014 17:21:22 GMT -5
They also do an interesting rendition of Tom Petty's "Free Fallin'". I enjoyed it.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 16, 2014 18:27:28 GMT -5
Awhile back I tweeted that this sounds like a 90s BSB song and they saw it and favorited it!
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 16, 2014 21:18:46 GMT -5
Man...the Chorus of this song is extremely good. I dig this song.
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 17, 2014 15:26:30 GMT -5
It was officially announced today that Blake Shelton will tour with The Band Perry and Dan + Shay this year. Great exposure for Dan + Shay.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 17, 2014 15:33:36 GMT -5
I want the video...after the perfection that is the lyric video for this song, I have high hopes for the actual video
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 17, 2014 18:04:51 GMT -5
I want the video...after the perfection that is the lyric video for this song, I have high hopes for the actual video Seriously the best lyric video I've ever seen. Dan + Shay announced that the official music video is being released on January, 21st...a few days!
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 17, 2014 18:36:24 GMT -5
Talked with Dan from the band the other day. He's a very good interview and the other sounds I'm lucky enough to hear are great as well.
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 19, 2014 23:00:08 GMT -5
I've been checking out some of the Dan + Shay acoustic performances. Out HereStop Drop and RollFirst Time Feeling What You Do To MeI appreciate that they have stated multiple times that they don't want to be motivated by or compromise integrity of the lyrics for a radio-friendly format, that many artists look past lyrics and focus on getting a song that will chart. It's obvious why these guys had 10 publishing offers after 2 months of knowing each other. Watching their performances you can see the connection they have with each and every song. It speaks volumes that they wrote and produced every song for the debut album. Besides the superb vocals and impressive harmonies, being disciplined songwriters is something they have over many current artists. The first song they ever wrote together got put on hold for Rascal Flatts, that's impressive. I'm still enjoying "19 You + Me", excited to see more from them!
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Post by churchchoir on Jan 20, 2014 11:20:33 GMT -5
^You're definitely right that this has slowed down, but it's still had a way more impressive chart run than a lot of new artists' singles. Most newcomers spend a ton of weeks in the 40's, 30's and 20's before finally picking up the pace around #20 (which has actually become more like #30 these days...see "Friday Night," "Carolina," and "Don't Ya" for examples). The fast start for this song may have been partially due to Warner Music Nashville generating a lot of early hype and getting a lot of early commitments on the song, like they did for "Helluva Life," which has also grown less exponentially than most newcomers' singles, but I also think it's because radio is really excited about these guys and I think this song sounds like and has the sales and research numbers of a hit.
Songs from new artists have fast starts and fizzle out before #1 usually when they are from new artists who have really good radio tours and generate a lot of excitement, but release a single that is either controversial or disliked by listeners. Kacey Musgraves' "Merry Go 'Round" is a good example of a song that fizzled out at #10 because it was probably a little too controversial or "dark," and The Henningsens were a great example of a group radio really liked with a single that listeners really didn't like, but Dan and Shay seem to be much better received by listeners. They have a lot of star potential in my opinion. This song seems like something a lot of folks can relate to and I actually see it as a contender for two weeks at #1.
Right now, just about every song in the teens and 20's is looking pretty slow. Even the songs just outside the top 10 seem to be just scooting along. No songs are really passing each other, except of course Blake Shelton is passing everyone. I see why there would be some concern about this song's chart run, as it has had really modest gains lately, but I think in just a few weeks' time, once the top 10 clears out and radio starts converting songs from medium to heavy and light to medium, this will start to regain its early momentum. I think this will be #1 closer to summer, as the label likely had anticipated by its fall 2013 release (makes a sad but true statement about the nature of the country charts).
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 27, 2014 0:36:49 GMT -5
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Post by jonathanalan on Jan 27, 2014 8:15:35 GMT -5
Dan + Shay will be opening for Hunter on his arena tour.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 27, 2014 9:37:01 GMT -5
They just nailed that video...and for us in the freezing Midwest tundra, I like the sun!
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 29, 2014 14:13:55 GMT -5
Dan + Shay are nominated for the ACM Vocal Duo of the Year. Wow. Impressive.
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Post by jonathanalan on Jan 29, 2014 21:26:08 GMT -5
I wonder if they will go for crossover success with this one? I don't see why they wouldn't. Teens will eat this up.
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Post by matty005 on Jan 30, 2014 7:32:19 GMT -5
I got a question about the title, what does "Summer of 19" mean? Does it mean the summer of 1919, 2019? or Does it mean the summer when the two characters were both 19? I heard this a lot of the radio and I keep forgetting to ask that question. It means the summer of being age 19 and them being together (me and you).
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 30, 2014 9:42:26 GMT -5
^ I can definitely see what you are saying, but I thought it meant year. Like he was saying summer of 19 and it doesnt matter what year, cause it was a bout them
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Post by schoolsout on Jan 30, 2014 10:06:58 GMT -5
I got a question about the title, what does "Summer of 19" mean? Does it mean the summer of 1919, 2019? or Does it mean the summer when the two characters were both 19? I heard this a lot of the radio and I keep forgetting to ask that question. The song has nothing to do with age. It's not about the age 19 or being 19. Dan + Shay have said many times on their radio tour that the song is a nostalgic look back on summer. They didn't want it to represent a specific year. So instead of the song lyrics being summer of 1988 or whatever they decided to use summer of 19 you and me. That way it represents any time period, any summer. Summer of 1943, summer of 1965, summer of 1991...
The song title is just "19 You + Me", summer is not in the song title but it's listed like that on this thread for some reason. Not sure why.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 18:18:06 GMT -5
The song title is just "19 You + Me", summer is not in the song title but it's listed like that on this thread for some reason. Not sure why. Not anymore! ;) Thread title fixed. The way the chorus is worded has always bothered me with this one. The lyric is "summer of 19 you and me", and written out or sung, it does sound like "19" would be a year. But obviously it's not 1919, and 2019 isn't here yet. I've always interpreted the 19 to be the age of the characters in the song, but even then the title wouldn't make a lot of sense. Not having the 19 as the age OR a year makes no sense to me.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 30, 2014 18:26:28 GMT -5
Wow, I never thought it was a year. I always thought of it as the age (19 years old) and spending that summer together when they were that age.
I think what may have confused people was "The Summer Of 19 You + Me". The word "Of" may have been confusing to thinking it's a year. If it was "The Summer When We Were 19 You + Me" it would have prevented the discussion of whether it was a year or an age. But that doesn't quite flow off the tongue as well in a song.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 30, 2014 18:32:44 GMT -5
O.K. people, English lesson of the day:
19 is an adjective modifying the pronoun You. + is the conjunction and Me is another pronoun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 18:34:41 GMT -5
Wow, I never thought it was a year. I always thought of it as the age (19 years old) and spending that summer together when they were that age. I never thought it was about a year either...I was just saying that that's the way it is written and sung. "Summer Of 19, you and me"...like you said, it's the "of" that makes it a rather weird lyric. But if I'm interpreting schoolsout's post correctly, the 19 is not representative of a year OR the age of the characters being sung about? And that makes even less sense (at least to me), because I always figured, despite the "of", that they were singing about a summer when the people in the song were both 19 years old.
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