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Post by Marv on Oct 7, 2013 22:25:21 GMT -5
This is his new single according to tonight's Country Aircheck, but no release date was mentioned.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 8, 2013 2:34:27 GMT -5
It's a very safe and catchy choice for a single. It grew on me as I was listening, like I said it's very catchy. It's radio friendly so I think it should be at least moderately successful for him.
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Post by Dustin J. on Oct 8, 2013 16:05:17 GMT -5
All Access lists November 4th as the add date.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 21, 2013 14:15:10 GMT -5
Official Single Artwork Label Seeking Immediate Airplay November 4 Add Date
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 21, 2013 18:09:12 GMT -5
They obviously want to build off the momentum of "Redneck Crazy" by wanting immediate airplay.
And is it just me, or does all his album/single artwork look the same?
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 22, 2013 9:51:25 GMT -5
They obviously want to build off the momentum of "Redneck Crazy" by wanting immediate airplay. And is it just me, or does all his album/single artwork look the same? Yes, it's a branding of the music/art for the whole album cycle. It's smart.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 22, 2013 17:08:05 GMT -5
They obviously want to build off the momentum of "Redneck Crazy" by wanting immediate airplay. And is it just me, or does all his album/single artwork look the same? Yes, it's a branding of the music/art for the whole album cycle. It's smart. It actually is a good idea.
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Post by Spacey_Kacey on Oct 22, 2013 21:24:01 GMT -5
I just can't see Tyler Farr sticking around. If I remember correctly, this was one of the few songs on the album that I could see doing moderately well. Pretty radio-friendly. Still, I really don't expect much better than a 20-25 peak. Very similar start to Dustin Lynch, Jana Kramer and Kacey Musgraves. The difference is he has absolutely no other adequate material and no vocal talent to warrant being played. Plus what has Sony done lately for its new artists? Nothing much. Even the veterans haven't done that well, but I won't put that squarely on them. I admit the branding has been good for Tyler, but he is going to have to bank on his connections to Lee Brice, Jerrod Niemann, and the rest of their crew to remain prominent. I expect them to try to put out a 2nd album after this era, but I'd be pretty surprised if he could get good enough material to even possibly stick around. Radio would have to sink to even newer lows.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 25, 2013 17:33:20 GMT -5
I've never met Tyler, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But this album is pretty bad IMO. "Whiskey In My Water" is the only decent song other than "Redneck Crazy" on the record. The rest are just awful party, we like to drink cause where glad to be from the country songs. "Chicks, Beer, and Trucks" (I think that's the title?) is hard to get through. Same goes for "Makes You Wanna Drink". I know his voice is supposed to be gravelly. It's like Bobby Pinsons a while back, but Pinson actually had quality material to get away with it.
Anyway "Whiskey In My Water" was the only song on here that wasn't already released I could see being a top 30 hit. So after this, if Columbia is smart, they should go on to record # 2. Maybe Tyler can redeem himself then.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 25, 2013 18:06:32 GMT -5
I've never met Tyler, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But this album is pretty bad IMO. "Whiskey In My Water" is the only decent song other than "Redneck Crazy" on the record. The rest are just awful party, we like to drink cause where glad to be from the country songs. "Chicks, Beer, and Trucks" (I think that's the title?) is hard to get through. Same goes for "Makes You Wanna Drink". I know his voice is supposed to be gravelly. It's like Bobby Pinsons a while back, but Pinson actually had quality material to get away with it. Anyway "Whiskey In My Water" was the only song on here that wasn't already released I could see being a top 30 hit. So after this, if Columbia is smart, they should go on to record # 2. Maybe Tyler can redeem himself then. Wasn't perfect, but IMO better than the titles suggest. As for singles, I wouldn't be surprised to see "Hello Goodbye" and/or "Hot Mess" re-released.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 25, 2013 18:09:59 GMT -5
I just can't see Tyler Farr sticking around. If I remember correctly, this was one of the few songs on the album that I could see doing moderately well. Pretty radio-friendly. Still, I really don't expect much better than a 20-25 peak. Very similar start to Dustin Lynch, Jana Kramer and Kacey Musgraves. The difference is he has absolutely no other adequate material and no vocal talent to warrant being played. Plus what has Sony done lately for its new artists? Nothing much. Even the veterans haven't done that well, but I won't put that squarely on them. I admit the branding has been good for Tyler, but he is going to have to bank on his connections to Lee Brice, Jerrod Niemann, and the rest of their crew to remain prominent. I expect them to try to put out a 2nd album after this era, but I'd be pretty surprised if he could get good enough material to even possibly stick around. Radio would have to sink to even newer lows. Tyler Farr has no vocal talent? You'd say that after listening to a song like "Hello Goodbye?" It may not be evident from his music but he was a classically trained vocalist (IE Opera stuff). Tyler Farr's Vocal HistoryAlso, "Dirty" feels like a radio single to me.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 26, 2013 18:17:55 GMT -5
I do suspect Tyler will "stick around" even if he doesn't get back into the top 10 for a long time. He's really talented and the only artists Columbia Nashville has on its roster besides Tyler are Kenny Chesney, whose radio career can't last more than a few more years in my opinion, and new artists Casey James and Leah Turner, who have no momentum right now. I don't necessarily think "Whiskey in My Water" will do exceedingly well on the charts simply because I have seen that it's really rare for a new act to follow up its first top 5 single with another big chart hit. I see this peaking somewhere from #25-#16 (nothing to frown upon, but still not leaving much of an impact at all, much like Gloriana's follow-up to their first top 5) and there's not really a whole lot of material on the album to release to radio after this, so my prediction is that Tyler will walk away with this song having become a moderate hit and come back a few months from the time "Whiskey" peaks with some new material that may or may not yield any big radio hits. One of the main problems I see is that the research scores for Tyler are usually pretty negative and my guess is that there are a lot of country radio listeners, much like several on this board, who find Tyler's voice grating. I don't know much about vocal styles and whatnot, but it seems to me a "quiet" single like "Whiskey in My Water" in which Tyler doesn't hit a lot of high notes would help his image a bit.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 26, 2013 21:46:13 GMT -5
Realized this today (for the comparisons to Lynch, Kramer and Musgraves).
"Cowboys and Angels" - Peak #2 "Why Ya Wanna" - Peak #3 "Merry Go Round" - Peak #10
Look at their followups:
"She Cranks My Tractor" - #16 "Whiskey" - #24 "Blowin' Smoke" - #26
The higher the debut, the higher the followup.
Tyler hit #1 so maybe he gets top 10 here? "WIMW" is more radio friendly then other followups IMO.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 27, 2013 0:49:45 GMT -5
"Redneck Crazy" peaked at #3 on Billboard, and, on Mediabase, I'm pretty sure "Blowin' Smoke" peaked ahead of "Whiskey." Either way, it's pretty silly to say that a two-space difference in Billboard peaks really means something. It's no secret that new artists almost always experience their biggest hit with the first single off an album and then each single peaks progressively lower, but there's not much of a correlation between the specific peak position within the top 10 and how high the next single goes. Look at Love and Theft. Their single "Angel Eyes" went all the way to #1 and the next single from them, "Runnin' Out of Air," missed the top 30, while Gloriana, whose single "(Kissed You) Good Night" peaked at #2 the same week "Angel Eyes" peaked, made it all the way to #16. I don't think there's much validity to the theory that a new artist whose debut single peaks at #2 will experience a higher peak with the follow-up than a new artist whose debut single peaks at #3 will because of a one-space difference. It's all a mater of sales, research scores, and to some extent how enthusiastic radio is about the artist. Usually, as a new artist goes deeper into an album, radio's enthusiasm wanes.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 27, 2013 1:10:38 GMT -5
It wasn't an actual stat, just something I noticed. And with all the different charts, it's hard to keep track of peaks.
Edit: after re-reading your post, it seems you took my "theory" completely serious when in reality it was something interesting I remarked.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 27, 2013 1:29:11 GMT -5
It wasn't an actual stat, just something I noticed. And with all the different charts, it's hard to keep track of peaks. Edit: after re-reading your post, it seems you took my "theory" completely serious when in reality it was something interesting I remarked. Was I not supposed to take your post seriously? I would think that if you posted something, unless it was intended as a joke, we're supposed to take it 'completely seriously.' I addressed your inference that "Whiskey in My Water" might make the top 10 because its predecessor was #1 on Mediabase (which, unlike the way the chart was when debut singles from Lynch and Kramer peaked, is pretty much a given for a top 10 song now) by explaining that the specific peak position within the top 5 doesn't have that direct of a correlation on the artist's momentum that it determines exactly where the next single peaks. This song may indeed do better than the second singles from Lynch, Kramer, and Musgraves because the former's second single was simply too much of a novelty song to be taken seriously enough to reach the top 10, and the latter two are females, but I don't think it's because Farr got a few days at #1 in "points" on Mediabase...or "Whiskey in My Water" could peak as low as #30. I think it depends largely on the label and the merits of the song itself. Also, I wasn't trying to nit-pick your specific numbers or be a "Chart History Nazi" (a term I coined myself :)) ). Just showing how trivial specific peak positions can be.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 27, 2013 1:42:19 GMT -5
It wasn't an actual stat, just something I noticed. And with all the different charts, it's hard to keep track of peaks. Edit: after re-reading your post, it seems you took my "theory" completely serious when in reality it was something interesting I remarked. Was I not supposed to take your post seriously? I would think that if you posted something, unless it was intended as a joke, we're supposed to take it 'completely seriously.' I addressed your inference that "Whiskey in My Water" might make the top 10 because its predecessor was #1 on Mediabase (which, unlike the way the chart was when debut singles from Lynch and Kramer peaked, is pretty much a given for a top 10 song now) by explaining that the specific peak position within the top 5 doesn't have that direct of a correlation on the artist's momentum that it determines exactly where the next single peaks. This song may indeed do better than the second singles from Lynch, Kramer, and Musgraves because the former's second single was simply too much of a novelty song to be taken seriously enough to reach the top 10, and the latter two are females, but I don't think it's because Farr got a few days at #1 in "points" on Mediabase...or "Whiskey in My Water" could peak as low as #30. I think it depends largely on the label and the merits of the song itself. Also, I wasn't trying to nit-pick your specific numbers or be a "Chart History Nazi" (a term I coined myself :)) ). Just showing how trivial specific peak positions can be. It was moreso an observance then a prediction. While we're discussing this, other 1st bighit-followups: Thompson Square Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not (#1) - I Got You (#8) FGL Cruise (#1) - Get Your Shine On (#1) Lee Brice Love Like Crazy (#3) - Beautiful Everytime (Didn't Enter top 40) L&T (though "Runaway" was arguably their first big hit) Angel Eyes (#1) - Runnin' Outta Air (#28 I think)
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 27, 2013 1:44:31 GMT -5
^ "Chart History Nazi"...Now that's a new one...But still made me spit out my drink with laughter. Lol
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 27, 2013 2:02:57 GMT -5
I'm totally a chart history nazi.
Once I saw someone say "Kissed You Goodnight" hit #1 and I wanted to scream "IT ONLY GOT TO #2 DAMMIT".
Lol.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 27, 2013 2:21:32 GMT -5
When I tell people that I can name all the peak positions or most of them on Mediabase from 2005 to the present, they look at me like I should be taken straight away to the looney bin.
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Post by Old Fart In NC on Oct 27, 2013 12:05:29 GMT -5
While we're discussing this, other 1st bighit-followups: Lee Brice Love Like Crazy (#3) - Beautiful Everytime (Didn't Enter top 40) To pick a nit, Beautiful Every Time hit #30 (at least on Billboard; I don't know about MB). A few others I've thought of (going back more than just a few years): Heartland--I Loved Her First (#1); Built to Last (#58); never hit top 40 again Heidi Newfield--Johnny & June (#11); Cry Cry (#29) Anita Cochran--What If I Said (with Steve Wariner; #1); Will You Be Here? (#69); never hit top 40 again Perfect Stranger--You Have the Right to Remain Silent (#4); I Am a Stranger Here Myself (#52); never hit top 40 again Leann Rimes--Blue (#10); Hurt Me (#43)
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 27, 2013 12:35:24 GMT -5
Others
Hunter Hayes
Storm Warning (#13, this could be wrong though) - Wanted (#1)
Kip Moore
Something Bout A Truck (#1) - Beer Money (#1)
Justin Moore
Small Town USA (#1) - Backwoods (#6)
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Post by blueguitar on Oct 28, 2013 12:09:17 GMT -5
I do suspect Tyler will "stick around" even if he doesn't get back into the top 10 for a long time. He's really talented and the only artists Columbia Nashville has on its roster besides Tyler are Kenny Chesney, whose radio career can't last more than a few more years in my opinion, and new artists Casey James and Leah Turner, who have no momentum right now. I don't necessarily think "Whiskey in My Water" will do exceedingly well on the charts simply because I have seen that it's really rare for a new act to follow up its first top 5 single with another big chart hit. I see this peaking somewhere from #25-#16 (nothing to frown upon, but still not leaving much of an impact at all, much like Gloriana's follow-up to their first top 5) and there's not really a whole lot of material on the album to release to radio after this, so my prediction is that Tyler will walk away with this song having become a moderate hit and come back a few months from the time "Whiskey" peaks with some new material that may or may not yield any big radio hits. One of the main problems I see is that the research scores for Tyler are usually pretty negative and my guess is that there are a lot of country radio listeners, much like several on this board, who find Tyler's voice grating. I don't know much about vocal styles and whatnot, but it seems to me a "quiet" single like "Whiskey in My Water" in which Tyler doesn't hit a lot of high notes would help his image a bit. I have to disagree on your comment about Colombia. Casey James did well with his debut album especially with "Crying on a Suitcase". He has a lot of momentum coming off the RED Tour and will be dropping his 1st single from his sophomore album after the 1st of the year. He has some great material. I expect him to have a bit of a breakout in 2014 as he continues to shed his AI image. It should be a pretty big year for him!
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 28, 2013 21:25:29 GMT -5
Ok, don't want to admit this, cause I'm not the biggest fan of this album at all. But this song is growing on me a bit. It was stuck in my head while I was going to bed last night....Never a good sign...with songs or a girl. Lol
Nevertheless this song was the only shot at another top 20 on the record and should have a decent shot with the huge success of "Redneck Crazy".
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Post by Markus Meyer on Nov 3, 2013 21:39:32 GMT -5
Gave this album another listen, and I must say, "Ain't Even Drinking" seems like a it would be a decent followup to this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 22:06:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I see Tyler Farr having lasting success either (as in, a career spanning more than a few years), but what I do see--or should I say 'hear'--is that "Whiskey In My Water" is a hit. In fact, I'm going to predict that this is a bigger hit than "Redneck Crazy" was. I predict that WIMW will be a big #1 hit in 2014. I cannot stand RC, but I actually like WIMW and may buy the single.
This isn't my favorite type of country song, but it has a catchy, sing-along chorus, a good hook, and the overall production of the song has a very melancholy feel to it. I still haven't felt inclined to check out the album (again, hated "Redneck Crazy" and was never a fan of "Hello Goodbye", whereas "Hot Mess" was simply 'meh'), but this is one song that I do like and I also think will be a hit.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 11, 2013 22:26:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I see Tyler Farr having lasting success either (as in, a career spanning more than a few years), but what I do see--or should I say 'hear'--is that "Whiskey In My Water" is a hit. In fact, I'm going to predict that this is a bigger hit than "Redneck Crazy" was. I predict that WIMW will be a big #1 hit in 2014. I cannot stand RC, but I actually like WIMW and may buy the single. This isn't my favorite type of country song, but it has a catchy, sing-along chorus, a good hook, and the overall production of the song has a very melancholy feel to it. I still haven't felt inclined to check out the album (again, hated "Redneck Crazy" and was never a fan of "Hello Goodbye", whereas "Hot Mess" was simply 'meh'), but this is one song that I do like and I also think will be a hit. I agree jhomes87. I don't know what it is about "Whiskey In My Water", but it just sounds like a perfect radio hit single. Your point on the production is spot on, it's very easy going and smooth. The hook and chorus are catchy, and Tyler's gravelly vocals seals this songs fate to me as a big hit for Tyler. This single is probably the biggest growing song on me this year.
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Post by layne on Nov 11, 2013 22:29:15 GMT -5
I loved Redneck Crazy. I thought it was the perfect song to break Tyler Farr. Whether you like it or not it created a buzz and even the negative articles etc actually helped the song and Tyler Farr and made people aware of him. I love Whiskey In My Water and I think it'll do well but I don't see it being as big of a digital seller as RC. I also think he'll have a career much like Lee Brice and Randy Houser. I can see him having some big hits but not really being a huge star.
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Post by zjames on Dec 16, 2013 20:18:54 GMT -5
I wasn't a big fan of Redneck Crazy, but this song is just one of those feel-good catchy songs that'll stay in your head for days. I think this'll be Farr's breakthrough and one of the biggest hits of 2014.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 18, 2013 15:08:19 GMT -5
I wasn't a big fan of Redneck Crazy, but this song is just one of those feel-good catchy songs that'll stay in your head for days. I think this'll be Farr's breakthrough and one of the biggest hits of 2014. This is my exact feelings. In fact, I don't know why "Whiskey In My Water" wasn't the first or second single out for Tyler. I did not like "Hot Mess" at all, and "Hello Goodbye" was just not sung by the right artist. I think Tyler's voice is unique and distinctive but I felt radio did not like the feel of that song, and couldn't get past that top 40 barrier. "Whiskey In My Water" is the perfect radio song. It's insanely catchy. It's short. And it stands out, yet is safe and friendly for radio's climate right now. I predicte this to do very well and possibly top the charts. I did not care for the rest of the album, so I will enjoy this as long as possible, before any other song is released from his record, cause I'm sure that I'm not going to enjoy it nowhere near as much.
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