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Post by sabre14 on May 24, 2014 20:12:23 GMT -5
My mom said this guy came to her hospital recently, because she got an email about him being there, but she said that all the people she worked with were unimpressed by his behavior. He was hours late and when he finally got there he went straight to the restroom, and he was just really rude. Basically everyone she knew was turned off by it, and she was glad she wasn't there that day, lol. He really seems to exude "lowest common denominator" when it comes to country music at the moment. I don't get why you always go to such lengths to make excuses for the bro-country crowd (between this and the defense of the gross objectification of women in "Get Me Some of That"). I mean, I don't think anyone here is trying to say this guy is a bad person in the sense that he's going to go out and commit murder or set fire to the Grand Ole Opry building, but a couple inoffensive "I'm so thankful and blessed y'all!" tweet does literally nothing to make up for any of his other behavior. But his "other behavior" is just a couple of so called offensive tweets. So you could say the same thing. "Just a couple some what crude tweets does literally nothing to warrant all this hate." I think we've seen enough from Chase that this isn't just "a couple offensive tweets". It's a disturbing pattern that showcases his disconnect from acceptable behavior. If every other artist in country music can stray away from using such terms as "Suck this", or Y'all are gonna HATE this" and feeling the need to capitalize numerous words of egotistical transcripts on their website, I think it's not too much to ask for him not to do it either. Unfortunately it seems to be far too difficult for him not to. Now who knows, maybe he's completely different in person, and I'm sure when he visits radio stations, label meetings, reviewers, etc. he's well behaved and good mannered, and I've never met him personally. But what's scary is that what .indulgecountry said about him coming to his mom's hospital isn't the first negative story I've heard about his rudeness. In my opinion the criticism and "hate" is warranted. Crude to me is perhaps telling a ill mannered joke, but his tweets fall under the "disgusting" catalog for me. Unfortunately I can't buy into his "being thankful and blessed y'all" tweet as being genuine because of his past history. If you buy a pack of strawberries and most of them are good, but there's a few moldy one's in there, then that kind of ruins the whole pack. That's how I view his tweets.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 20:35:14 GMT -5
I don't think it's very complicated. I don't think Chase is a bad person. If he were, he probably wouldn't have made it as far as he has. I'm sure he's a nice guy but I just don't care for his attitude or the way he presents himself, and that stems largely from my dislike of the entire culture of bro-country.
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Post by matty005 on May 24, 2014 20:47:29 GMT -5
But his "other behavior" is just a couple of so called offensive tweets. So you could say the same thing. "Just a couple some what crude tweets does literally nothing to warrant all this hate." I think we've seen enough from Chase that this isn't just "a couple offensive tweets". It's a disturbing pattern that showcases his disconnect from acceptable behavior. If every other artist in country music can stray away from using such terms as "Suck this", or Y'all are gonna HATE this" and feeling the need to capitalize numerous words of egotistical transcripts on their website, I think it's not too much to ask for him not to do it either. Unfortunately it seems to be far too difficult for him not to. Now who knows, maybe he's completely different in person, and I'm sure when he visits radio stations, label meetings, reviewers, etc. he's well behaved and good mannered, and I've never met him personally. But what's scary is that what .indulgecountry said about him coming to his mom's hospital isn't the first negative story I've heard about his rudeness. In my opinion the criticism and "hate" is warranted. Crude to me is perhaps telling a ill mannered joke, but his tweets fall under the "disgusting" catalog for me. Unfortunately I can't buy into his "being thankful and blessed y'all" tweet as being genuine because of his past history. If you buy a pack of strawberries and most of them are good, but there's a few moldy one's in there, then that kind of ruins the whole pack. That's how I view his tweets. Except other artists have done similar. Kacey Musgraves (who I adore and like 100x better than Chase Rise) posted a Facebook comment that basically said to eff off to anyone who isn't a fan. And she got a lot of support both here and elsewhere. What's the difference? It sounds to me that if people agree with what the artist is saying they'll cut them some slack, but if they dislike them already, then it's offensive. Not saying this is wrong or anything, but just what I noticed.
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Post by Markus Meyer on May 24, 2014 21:15:21 GMT -5
I think we've seen enough from Chase that this isn't just "a couple offensive tweets". It's a disturbing pattern that showcases his disconnect from acceptable behavior. If every other artist in country music can stray away from using such terms as "Suck this", or Y'all are gonna HATE this" and feeling the need to capitalize numerous words of egotistical transcripts on their website, I think it's not too much to ask for him not to do it either. Unfortunately it seems to be far too difficult for him not to. Now who knows, maybe he's completely different in person, and I'm sure when he visits radio stations, label meetings, reviewers, etc. he's well behaved and good mannered, and I've never met him personally. But what's scary is that what .indulgecountry said about him coming to his mom's hospital isn't the first negative story I've heard about his rudeness. In my opinion the criticism and "hate" is warranted. Crude to me is perhaps telling a ill mannered joke, but his tweets fall under the "disgusting" catalog for me. Unfortunately I can't buy into his "being thankful and blessed y'all" tweet as being genuine because of his past history. If you buy a pack of strawberries and most of them are good, but there's a few moldy one's in there, then that kind of ruins the whole pack. That's how I view his tweets. Except other artists have done similar. Kacey Musgraves (who I adore and like 100x better than Chase Rise) posted a Facebook comment that basically said to eff off to anyone who isn't a fan. And she got a lot of support both here and elsewhere. What's the difference? It sounds to me that if people agree with what the artist is saying they'll cut them some slack, but if they dislike them already, then it's offensive. Not saying this is wrong or anything, but just what I noticed. It's funny - the amount of hate and negativity that plagues this dumba** social network. Not to rant, but, there are more mean, shallow things commented here than any place else I chose to share stuff with. If you're coming here for any other reason than to appreciate my music and take a little peek at what's goin' on in my world occasionally - stay the f*** out. Here's the quote from kacey's FB.
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Post by sabre14 on May 24, 2014 22:18:34 GMT -5
I think we've seen enough from Chase that this isn't just "a couple offensive tweets". It's a disturbing pattern that showcases his disconnect from acceptable behavior. If every other artist in country music can stray away from using such terms as "Suck this", or Y'all are gonna HATE this" and feeling the need to capitalize numerous words of egotistical transcripts on their website, I think it's not too much to ask for him not to do it either. Unfortunately it seems to be far too difficult for him not to. Now who knows, maybe he's completely different in person, and I'm sure when he visits radio stations, label meetings, reviewers, etc. he's well behaved and good mannered, and I've never met him personally. But what's scary is that what .indulgecountry said about him coming to his mom's hospital isn't the first negative story I've heard about his rudeness. In my opinion the criticism and "hate" is warranted. Crude to me is perhaps telling a ill mannered joke, but his tweets fall under the "disgusting" catalog for me. Unfortunately I can't buy into his "being thankful and blessed y'all" tweet as being genuine because of his past history. If you buy a pack of strawberries and most of them are good, but there's a few moldy one's in there, then that kind of ruins the whole pack. That's how I view his tweets. Except other artists have done similar. Kacey Musgraves (who I adore and like 100x better than Chase Rise) posted a Facebook comment that basically said to eff off to anyone who isn't a fan. And she got a lot of support both here and elsewhere. What's the difference? It sounds to me that if people agree with what the artist is saying they'll cut them some slack, but if they dislike them already, then it's offensive. Not saying this is wrong or anything, but just what I noticed. The fact Kacey used the word F*ck was biggest problem I had with her comment. She was saying how it's a pretty sad state of affairs that such negativity and shallowness plagues social networks, which I agree is true. Heck to be honest I wasn't 100% on board with her comments because she came off so negatively herself. Chase was responding to fans on his twitter account who didn't like the kind of music he's been making. There's always going to be negative things thrown your direction, especially if your a musical artist. The age of twitter allows more of that to come your direction at your own risk. Most artist (and by most I mean but a handful as you pointed out), elect to simply ignore them. It's perfectly acceptable to expect someone like Chase to not respond to it. Telling people on twitter to "suck this" is so unbelievably childish, I'm flabbergasted how someone who has gotten fairly far in life has such bonehead behavior. Just because Kacey had that comment doesn't make Chase's tweets acceptable and I'm sure you know that. I can't speak for others but Kacey's stance, while I agree with her, could have been worded differently. I also didn't already think to dislike him just because I hate his music. I hate Colt Ford's music and I find him to be down to earth and charismatic. Thomas Rhett's music I'm also not a fan of and he comes off as a genuinely nice and down to earth individual. Chase in my mind has earned the flack that's directed towards his way. I respect you're willingness to cut him slack but he's done too many egotistical things for me to look past.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 22:37:36 GMT -5
I read Kacey's comment as one coming from a place of frustration -- I actually just took a mass communications course on social media that was quite educational, and one of the things we studied was of course how people use things like Facebook and Twitter just to be completely negative all the time, because they can essentially hide behind a profile and no one knows who they are, or sees them in person as they are saying such degrading things.
On the other hand, Chase seems to enjoy instigating people who don't care for his style of music, or at least that's how his latest tweet came off in my opinion. The "#pushinlimits" at the end of his tweet seemed to indicate a big ego as well, as if he believes himself to be some masterful innovator who is creating things that have never been created before. Sorry, but mixing pop/hip-hop/rock with country is not anything new, nor is singing about girls, trucks, beer, etc.
Like I said though, I don't hate Chase at all. I don't know him in person so I can't make that call. But the vibe he creates with a lot of his tweets is just a really big turn-off for me (and of course so is his music). For me, it's as simple as that, nothing more complicated. I do agree that Kacey's 'rant' was somewhat similar but again, I just think that hers came from a place of frustration...it seems that a lot of people had been posting negative comments on some of her posts or on articles about her recent Grammy wins, and they were posting those things for no reason at all. I haven't seen anything from her that indicates 'smugness' (she certainly hasn't said anything along the lines of "aw man, this Same Trailer Different Park music is going to really piss off all these 'new country' fans...y'all are gonna HATE my a**"). I feel that Kacey was probably annoyed at how so many people use Facebook to be negative, whereas some of Chase's more 'interesting' tweets come across almost like trolling.
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Post by sabre14 on May 24, 2014 22:50:20 GMT -5
On the other hand, Chase seems to enjoy instigating people who don't care for his style of music, or at least that's how his latest tweet came off in my opinion. The "#pushinlimits" at the end of his tweet seemed to indicate a big ego as well, as if he believes himself to be some masterful innovator who is creating things that have never been created before. Sorry, but mixing pop/hip-hop/rock with country is not anything new, nor is singing about girls, trucks, beer, etc. I also find him to actually enjoy egging on people who disagree with his music style. Perhaps his ego got inflated by people saying how much they dislike his music, and that's where his whole "I'm an innovator, my record deal is a one of a kind, and where here to change the world" garbage came from. Starting his tweets with such words as "y'all we've done it" seems to indicate as much. He's not a "bad" person, but until he changes his behavior I will find him to be childish and egotistical.
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Post by joey2002 on May 24, 2014 23:48:14 GMT -5
I generally think that country guys are good guys. Generally not the best assumption to make...
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Post by 14887fan on May 25, 2014 0:05:12 GMT -5
Sad. It's almost as if he thinks he's actually going to sell a ton of albums.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 0:31:27 GMT -5
Sad. It's almost as if he thinks he's actually going to sell a ton of albums. Well, he probably will sell a lot, actually (at least for a new artist). This single is almost Gold already and it's barely Top 30. And the Ready Set Roll EP has done pretty well, too. It was released back in October (before he was getting any terrestrial radio play) and he debuted at #4 on Billboard's Country Albums chart. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see his album sell in the 50-60k range similar to Cole Swindell's debut. "Ready Set Roll" looks like it's still going to climb a good deal higher at country radio and it might eventually go top 10 or higher.
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Post by 14887fan on May 25, 2014 0:38:40 GMT -5
Sad. It's almost as if he thinks he's actually going to sell a ton of albums. Well, he probably will sell a lot, actually (at least for a new artist). This single is almost Gold already and it's barely Top 30. And the Ready Set Roll EP has done pretty well, too. It was released back in October (before he was getting any terrestrial radio play) and he debuted at #4 on Billboard's Country Albums chart. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see his album sell in the 50-60k range similar to Cole Swindell's debut. "Ready Set Roll" looks like it's still going to climb a good deal higher at country radio and it might eventually go top 10 or higher. He'll likely be dissatisfied with anything less than a 500k debut and 3 women in his bed to celebrate with him on the eve of his launch, though, so I'm not concerned. In total honesty, I don't see him performing well at all in the long run. I think his staying power is extremely minimal.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 25, 2014 0:49:47 GMT -5
I think his staying power is extremely minimal. This I agree on at least. Silver lining?
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on May 25, 2014 11:21:17 GMT -5
Another tweet... Yall are gonna HATE my ass:) Mission accomplished!
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Post by sabre14 on May 25, 2014 13:28:39 GMT -5
You know when people have big tools? Interesting skill to have. ;) Other than that one tweet, what have you seen that makes him "gross?" Not saying you're wrong, but just don't think it's fair to say such a unkind statement without giving any reasons. I'd also add that those tweets should earn him a douche bag of the year nomination. Winner by a landslide.
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Post by jferstler on May 25, 2014 16:02:01 GMT -5
Been following Chase for years and his first few releases were stellar. Unfortunately he has since changed his style to incorporate a hip hop/ pop type style. That being said I actually do like this song (I know, not popular). I'm 19 and this is a great song to listen too with friends and drink too. This song doesn't tell an amazing story or bring tears to anyone's eyes but it does bring a certain amount of energy to the listener. Chase is a nice guy from what I can tell. A friend of mine is good friends with him and has said that he's just a normal guy and sometimes that can be a bad thing because he's not trained on how to react to hate, and sends out tweets like the ones mentioned. Someone like Tim Mcgraw, or another big name wouldn't tweet something like that because most of time it's not even them using the account. Chase is the real deal, and is extremely humble and glad to have made it as far as he has. He has an absolutely HUGE live following, that has built through hard work and touring, doing it all himself. That being said, I don't like this song on the radio. That might sound contradicting but as much as I think this a decent song, it's not a good country song and doesn't have a place on country radio, especially when their are such good talents struggling right now (not that Chase is doing that great). I enjoy listening to this song, and I crank it up loud, but I don't want to hear it over songs like I Got A Car, Wake Up Loving You, Yeah, and What I Can't Put Down... which are my favorite songs on the radio right now.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 12, 2014 11:37:12 GMT -5
I like this song for the most part. The only thing I don't like is the little fine ass lyric. That doesn't sit right with me. If a guy told me to do that he'd get a swift kick where the sun don't shine. However, it does have a few redeeming lyrics that lead to me enjoying this song.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 13, 2014 7:06:02 GMT -5
Which is why the "Little Fine Self" edit has helped the song a bit at radio.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 13, 2014 9:19:59 GMT -5
Does anybody really know which of the 1960's artists were great people, or reasonably nice people, and which were conceited, or inconsiderate, or self-obsessed? How about the 1970's? Do we hear anything about the 80's artists?
Except for the really famous things -- Possum's no-shows, or on the other hand Emmylou Harris giving lots of people some support -- it all goes away and we're left with the music. I have to say that I think that's a good thing. I don't like the one song I've heard from Rice, at least I don't like one particular line of it, but maybe I'll like the next one. And in the meantime, I don't really care about his tweets, his attitude, or anything else. I suppose showing up late to a hospital isn't cool, but sometimes there's a story involved, and besides, I'm so far from perfect myself that I'm not in a great position to judge.
So I'll just slide my fine a** over to the "nonjudgmental" side. There are things someone can say that are hurtful and offensive, and if somebody offers up one of those, then I will retract my usual stance and condemn somebody -- but if it's relatively mild, I'll stick with the music.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 13, 2014 9:35:57 GMT -5
Does anybody really know which of the 1960's artists were great people, or reasonably nice people, and which were conceited, or inconsiderate, or self-obsessed? How about the 1970's? Do we hear anything about the 80's artists? Except for the really famous things -- Possum's no-shows, or on the other hand Emmylou Harris giving lots of people some support -- it all goes away and we're left with the music. I have to say that I think that's a good thing. I don't like the one song I've heard from Rice, at least I don't like one particular line of it, but maybe I'll like the next one. And in the meantime, I don't really care about his tweets, his attitude, or anything else. I suppose showing up late to a hospital isn't cool, but sometimes there's a story involved, and besides, I'm so far from perfect myself that I'm not in a great position to judge. So I'll just slide my fine a** over to the "nonjudgmental" side. There are things someone can say that are hurtful and offensive, and if somebody offers up one of those, then I will retract my usual stance and condemn somebody -- but if it's relatively mild, I'll stick with the music. This is the post of the year. I know that Johnny Cash helped two country groups (one was country and the other converted to country), the Statler Brothers and the Oak Ridge Boys.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 14, 2014 14:25:07 GMT -5
Zazie's post is exactly in line with what I'm trying to say. Unless Chase Rice does something truly execrable, no one's gonna care about his awful behavior five years from now, or twenty years from now, or however. That is exactly why I'm not being judgmental toward him proper. And unless (God forbid) this song becomes a Top 5 hit, he probably won't even be remembered for his awful song five years from now, either.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 23, 2014 16:52:25 GMT -5
God help me, I think I'm starting to build up a tolerance for this song...
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Post by carriekins on Jun 23, 2014 17:06:51 GMT -5
God help me, I think I'm starting to build up a tolerance for this song... Some things are better left unsaid. ;)
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Post by jferstler on Jul 8, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -5
This looks to be charging to the top. I can definitely see a top ten peak for this song. Also, just a reminder that Chase can put out decent traditional sounding music:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 1:29:33 GMT -5
This looks to be charging to the top. I can definitely see a top ten peak for this song. I certainly wouldn't say this. It only increased by 600k in Billboard audience this past week with a gain of just 61 spins. It's testing well and selling well (although I must point out it has been discounted to 69cents for at least the last 3-4 weeks now), but you also have to remember that it's already been on the chart for 34 weeks now. Many stations didn't start playing this one until after Columbia picked up promotion for it, but there are still enough that have been playing this since October or November and might start dropping it soon. Furthermore, Chase's album is out in only about 6 weeks, and we have a couple tweets, such as the one below, suggesting that a possible new single might be on the way in just 5 weeks (August 12), a week before the full album arrives. That's not near enough time for "Ready Set Roll" to charge to the top, let alone hit top 10. Of course, it's entirely possible that Columbia will stick with "Ready Set Roll" through album release and get it into the top 10, but it's definitely not a given, and right now it's not moving very quickly on the charts at all.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 9, 2014 20:19:07 GMT -5
They should have released "How She Rolls" as his first radio single as that song is less polarizing then this current one. Nevertheless I can't wait to hear his debut album, as his EP was amazing. They did. It peaked #55 last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 17:26:01 GMT -5
They should have released "How She Rolls" as his first radio single as that song is less polarizing then this current one. Nevertheless I can't wait to hear his debut album, as his EP was amazing. They did. It peaked #55 last year. Thanks. I didn't realize it was officially sent to radio. I thought it charted from unsolicited play only.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 17, 2014 18:03:55 GMT -5
How She Rolls is the better song overall I think, but yeah, it was released and did little with the small push it got.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 23:28:48 GMT -5
They did. It peaked #55 last year. Thanks. I didn't realize it was officially sent to radio. I thought it charted from unsolicited play only. I don't know if it was released everywhere though. At the time it was just Chase and his own label (Dack Janiels) and they definitely didn't have enough staff/resources to promote it to radio yet then. It charted based off airplay at KAJA in San Antonio, and I'm not sure if any other stations (outside of "The Highway") ever played it. If there were others, there weren't many.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 18, 2014 11:10:29 GMT -5
They did. It peaked #55 last year. Thanks. I didn't realize it was officially sent to radio. I thought it charted from unsolicited play only. It wasn't 'officially sent to radio.' It was sent to some test markets and SiriusXM only.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Jul 20, 2014 13:32:38 GMT -5
Heard "Jack Daniels and Jesus" on my way to church this morning, it's really his only song I like. It was a stripped down, piano-driven version and it sounded really good.
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