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Post by kirkw on Oct 16, 2013 9:34:09 GMT -5
When this first came out, I thought, "Wow this IS the greatest George Strait song of all-time!" After about 250 listens, I still love it, but I put it at #3. Just behind "Drinkin' Man" and "Murder on Music Row". That should still speak to how great this song is. It's a little bit too contemporary, but it is an excellent story with a great rhythm. Hopefully, this one is a much bigger radio hit than those other two (and yes, I am aware MOMR was not a single). It is certainly very deserving. "Drinkin' Man" and "Murder on Music Row" along with "I Believe" never had a chance at country radio due to the subject matter. "I Got A Car" will be a big hit for George because it's positive and a subject most people can relate to. Radio will embrace this in a big way, I have no doubt about that. As a matter of fact, I think this will be George's biggest hit since "I Saw God Today" and maybe the biggest since "Give It Away."
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Post by dajross6 on Oct 16, 2013 11:28:30 GMT -5
I have doubts based entirely on listening to current country radio that this may struggle. I could see a 30 week chart stroll that mirrors GIAWGT's run and needs a push at the end honestly. George's callout scores were well above his ranking for virtually his entire run, but that is often the case because PDs aren't listening to the scores near as much as days past any longer. Gone are the days of listener requests showing upticks in local radio play that reflects on the charts. Now it seems mega radio conglomerates focus on ratings in large cities (for ratings) and push the same playlist across all their stations. This accounts for much of the charts we see :(
Off my soapbox though. Hoping for a chart topper here (it's the best chance on the album imo) but would settle for a top 5 and increased exposure to the new fans of the genre.
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Post by straitfan87 on Oct 16, 2013 18:34:48 GMT -5
When this first came out, I thought, "Wow this IS the greatest George Strait song of all-time!" After about 250 listens, I still love it, but I put it at #3. Just behind "Drinkin' Man" and "Murder on Music Row". That should still speak to how great this song is. It's a little bit too contemporary, but it is an excellent story with a great rhythm. Hopefully, this one is a much bigger radio hit than those other two (and yes, I am aware MOMR was not a single). It is certainly very deserving. "Drinkin' Man" and "Murder on Music Row" along with "I Believe" never had a chance at country radio due to the subject matter. "I Got A Car" will be a big hit for George because it's positive and a subject most people can relate to. Radio will embrace this in a big way, I have no doubt about that. As a matter of fact, I think this will be George's biggest hit since "I Saw God Today" and maybe the biggest since "Give It Away." It should be noted that "Murder on Music Row" was not released officially as a single however it received enough airplay to chart at number 38 on the Hot Country Songs chart. (pre-mongrel chart) I can't wait till "I Got a Car" is released, I'm really looking forward to hearing George on the radio.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 16, 2013 22:48:06 GMT -5
I'm so glad that this has been released, and I'm not sure that it will suffer because of "I Believe", because how many people really even knew that that was a single? You'd be surprised. I had speculated that "I Hold On" from Dierks Bentley would not have much trouble getting up the charts because of "Bourbon in Kentucky"'s extremely short chart run, but it seems that a short chart run and a peak below the top 40 cannot simply be "forgotten" as indicated by how slow "I Hold On" is moving up the chart. It will be very difficult for George Strait to regain his momentum and with how close his radio career seems to its end, I don't know if George will ever manage to get another airplay hit again. I think this should be able to obtain a peak position higher than that of "I Believe," but I still doubt it will make the top 25.
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Post by kirkw on Oct 17, 2013 10:59:38 GMT -5
I'm so glad that this has been released, and I'm not sure that it will suffer because of "I Believe", because how many people really even knew that that was a single? You'd be surprised. I had speculated that "I Hold On" from Dierks Bentley would not have much trouble getting up the charts because of "Bourbon in Kentucky"'s extremely short chart run, but it seems that a short chart run and a peak below the top 40 cannot simply be "forgotten" as indicated by how slow "I Hold On" is moving up the chart. It will be very difficult for George Strait to regain his momentum and with how close his radio career seems to its end, I don't know if George will ever manage to get another airplay hit again. I think this should be able to obtain a peak position higher than that of "I Believe," but I still doubt it will make the top 25. I like Dierks Bentley's work but I don't think his recent chart performance can compare with what George has done. In this case, I think radio will respond to listeners as a result of George's CMA Entertainer of the Year nomination and his well-publicized final farewell tour.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 17, 2013 16:00:06 GMT -5
According to AllAccess, George Strait has his FIRST platinum single:
Platinum winners of more than 1 million downloads include LANA DEL RAY for "SUMMERTIME SADNESS" and Country superstar GEORGE STRAIT with "GIVE IT ALL WE GOT TONIGHT."
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Post by tim on Oct 18, 2013 23:49:58 GMT -5
I'm so glad that this has been released, and I'm not sure that it will suffer because of "I Believe", because how many people really even knew that that was a single? You'd be surprised. I had speculated that "I Hold On" from Dierks Bentley would not have much trouble getting up the charts because of "Bourbon in Kentucky"'s extremely short chart run, but it seems that a short chart run and a peak below the top 40 cannot simply be "forgotten" as indicated by how slow "I Hold On" is moving up the chart. It will be very difficult for George Strait to regain his momentum and with how close his radio career seems to its end, I don't know if George will ever manage to get another airplay hit again. I think this should be able to obtain a peak position higher than that of "I Believe," but I still doubt it will make the top 25. I don't think "I Believe" is going to have any impact at all on IGAC. In fact, it has likely made radio even more hungry for something new from George, especially with all the hype around his tour. I have no doubt that this will find its way into the top 3 and likely make it to the top.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 19, 2013 11:36:00 GMT -5
"No doubt?" I find it a little bit surprising that anyone would be so sure that a traditional-sounding song from George Strait, whose radio days are all but over, following up a total momentum-killing #50 peak, would make it all the way to the top 3, which has even become a struggle for the likes of Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood (sometimes), Kenny Chesney (as of late), and even Brad Paisley (with his most recent single). GIAWGT struggled to make the top 10 and only did so due to the 60-for-60 campaign, and that was following up a top 40 peak. I think George used up all his momentum on the insane push for GIAWGT, and I'm pretty confident I will be pretty accurate in my prediction. I guess we'll see soon enough....
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Post by dajross6 on Oct 19, 2013 15:19:27 GMT -5
I think if we polled 100 general country listeners we'd see maybe 5-10% even knew George released "I Believe" as a single because they never heard it more than a time or two on their stations (similar to an album cut or George song from the 80s). Many PDs probably didn't even take the single seriously enough to think it was worth playing on their station. Assuming those numbers are close to true, most will think I Got A Car is the true follow-up to GIAWGT. I think it will do well and peak in the top ten somewhere, and maybe get another #1 with a MCA push.
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Post by someguy on Oct 19, 2013 15:31:07 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about this being an automatic hit. "I Believe" did some damage, sure, but it's also the third single from an album released six months ago that hasn't really held up all that well in sales since its debut. Add in the fact that it's by a 61 year-old singer, it's fairly traditional when compared to everything else on the radio, and his last hit single really only got to where it did due to a huge label-orchestrated campaign unlike anything we've ever seen before. I'm not trying to be negative, but I don't see this as an automatic #1 or even top 10. It could definitely do it eventually, but if it does, I don't think that it will be an easy ride.
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Post by kirkw on Oct 20, 2013 11:55:34 GMT -5
Why I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss "I Got A Car" is we're talking about an artist who stands alone in accomplishing the type of chart success George has attained at country radio for a period of time we'll not likely se again in our lifetimes. We'll see how it goes, but George still has a pretty significant fan base out there who make up a large share of the country radio listening audience. Under ordinary circumstance with CD sales and previous single success driving PD's decisions on what gets played, I would agree that George would not do well here and in the future. However, George is not your ordinary country artist. He still has the ability to swing the current tastes of what's being played on the radio in a different direction. He may be 61 and on his farewell tour, but I don't get the sense this Cowboy is riding away for good anytime soon.
If Joe Nichols can come back the way he has with "Sunny and 75" George can do this with a third single on what I feel is the best CD he's put out in more than a decade.
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Post by tim on Oct 20, 2013 13:19:49 GMT -5
I think if we polled 100 general country listeners we'd see maybe 5-10% even knew George released "I Believe" as a single because they never heard it more than a time or two on their stations (similar to an album cut or George song from the 80s). Many PDs probably didn't even take the single seriously enough to think it was worth playing on their station. Assuming those numbers are close to true, most will think I Got A Car is the true follow-up to GIAWGT. I think it will do well and peak in the top ten somewhere, and maybe get another #1 with a MCA push. I'd bet that out of those 100 polled it would be less than 5% that even knew "I Believe" was a single. Heck, the only ones that even seem to know are those of us on this message board. The only time I heard it was on Austin's traditional country station and never once heard it on the more mainstream station (speaking of...how great it is to live in Austin where I can turn on the radio and hear anything from "Dance Time In Texas" to "Baby's Gotten Good At Goodbye" still being played on the radio). I understand being cautious regarding this being a hit, but no way will this not reach the top 10. If George can nab an Entertainer of the Year nomination he'll get a top 10 or 5 hit with this. He's got too much momentum going into his last tour not to have another hit at radio.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 17:35:15 GMT -5
I want to believe this will be a big hit, but with how quickly country radio has been embracing new sounds while simultaneously pushing all the older artists off the airwaves, I'm not nearly as convinced as some of you are. I think just 2-3 years ago this wouldn't have had much trouble, and I still hope (maybe foolishly) that there's room on today's playlists for such a song, because this one sounds so good. It's well-written and well-sung, it sounds country and it's got a good story to it...and it's George. Those are all reasons right there why this song should have no trouble going to #1, but the key words here are "should have". I'm just not sure where radio stands with George now. I get the sense that most people and PD's don't want to say "no" to his music (a sort of reluctant feeling), but with the huge change in the style of music on country radio, I think they might pass on this. Not completely--this is George, after all, so he'll get a bunch of stations to add it and play it--but will it crack the top 30? The top 20? I really don't know. It's such a unique situation.
I was so sure that Alan Jackson's "You Go Your Way" would be a big hit but country radio said "no" and now Alan is making music that he knows radio won't play, because (tongue-twister here) he found out the hard way that they won't play the type of music that they usually have played. If there is no room for songs like "Long Way To Go", "So You Don't Have To Love Me Anymore", and "You Go Your Way" alongside tunes like "That's My Kind Of Night", "Boys 'Round Here", "Cruise", etc, then it's no wonder why Alan can't get played anymore. I fear the same could happen to George. I know he's got the big CMA nomination and the big tour, and he still has a big fan-base, but I still worry that radio will pass this up just like they did with Alan's last few singles. Or perhaps I'll be wrong, and "I Got A Car" will become the feel-good story of 2014. I just don't really know. George IS pretty much the definition of country and his career is legendary and unique, but country radio's definition of country music isn't what it used to be, either..
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 20, 2013 18:07:09 GMT -5
I want to believe this will be a big hit, but with how quickly country radio has been embracing new sounds while simultaneously pushing all the older artists off the airwaves, I'm not nearly as convinced as some of you are. I think just 2-3 years ago this wouldn't have had much trouble, and I still hope (maybe foolishly) that there's room on today's playlists for such a song, because this one sounds so good. It's well-written and well-sung, it sounds country and it's got a good story to it...and it's George. Those are all reasons right there why this song should have no trouble going to #1, but the key words here are "should have". I'm just not sure where radio stands with George now. I get the sense that most people and PD's don't want to say "no" to his music (a sort of reluctant feeling), but with the huge change in the style of music on country radio, I think they might pass on this. Not completely--this is George, after all, so he'll get a bunch of stations to add it and play it--but will it crack the top 30? The top 20? I really don't know. It's such a unique situation. I was so sure that Alan Jackson's "You Go Your Way" would be a big hit but country radio said "no" and now Alan is making music that he knows radio won't play, because (tongue-twister here) he found out the hard way that they won't play the type of music that they usually have played. If there is no room for songs like "Long Way To Go", "So You Don't Have To Love Me Anymore", and "You Go Your Way" alongside tunes like "That's My Kind Of Night", "Boys 'Round Here", "Cruise", etc, then it's no wonder why Alan can't get played anymore. I fear the same could happen to George. I know he's got the big CMA nomination and the big tour, and he still has a big fan-base, but I still worry that radio will pass this up just like they did with Alan's last few singles. Or perhaps I'll be wrong, and "I Got A Car" will become the feel-good story of 2014. I just don't really know. George IS pretty much the definition of country and his career is legendary and unique, but country radio's definition of country music isn't what it used to be, either.. If country radio rejects or to put it nicely doesn't play "I Got A Car", that will officially be the angriest I will ever be at country radio. My only question is are they collectively not playing George, Alan. and others on purpose or maybe sub consciously not playing them as much cause their mind is so brainwashed by this newer country, that now the traditional....Sorry I misspoke...The REAL country music is now the ugly duckling. Look I know things evolve over time and nothing really stays the same. But there's a difference between evolving and flat out changing something into something totally different. I don't think I can live in a world where "Drink To That All Night" is played in heavy rotation while "I Got A Car" or even "Fill In The Blank" and "You Go Your Way" is shunned by the waist side. I'm sure George's age along with Alan's will be the excuse but its not the whole truth. Your post Jhomes87, while informative and true is very frightening.
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Post by McCreerian on Oct 20, 2013 18:21:00 GMT -5
All artists get "aged" off the radio. Even ones who had decades long careers. It happened to Conway (a few years before his death), George Jones (who didn't go quietly about it either in the mid 90s), Dolly, Kenny Rogers, Merle, Hank Jr, Reba, Alabama, Randy, Tanya and so many others from the 70s and 80s. It happened to Alan already. It may be starting to happen to Kenny Chesney and Toby. George is the only artist from the 1980s who radio will still play new music by and that can't last much longer. I hope they give "I Got a Car" a chance though, as it is one of the best songs in his 30+ year career. The big question is how will radio handle Garth in 2014 cause you know he ain't gonna sing a Frat boy song!
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 20, 2013 19:14:21 GMT -5
All artists get "aged" off the radio. Even ones who had decades long careers. It happened to Conway (a few years before his death), George Jones (who didn't go quietly about it either in the mid 90s), Dolly, Kenny Rogers, Merle, Hank Jr, Reba, Alabama, Randy, Tanya and so many others from the 70s and 80s. It happened to Alan already. It may be starting to happen to Kenny Chesney and Toby. George is the only artist from the 1980s who radio will still play new music by and that can't last much longer. I hope they give "I Got a Car" a chance though, as it is one of the best songs in his 30+ year career. The big question is how will radio handle Garth in 2014 cause you know he ain't gonna sing a Frat boy song! I think Garth is a unique case. He's a global icon. Evreyone is awaiting his return along with Shania (as long as she sings stuff like her UP album and not "Today Is Your Day" which was terrible IMO). It would be wierd though, I mean can you see Garth having struggles at radio with a new studio album full of new music?... Personally I feel there's no way that happens but you never know with country radio version 2014.
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Post by churchchoir on Oct 20, 2013 19:19:35 GMT -5
My quick response to the point made about most fans not even knowing "I Believe" was released as a single is that I'm sure all PDs and MDs were aware of the song's release and I'm sure MCA put forth their best effort to make it a hit, so I don't really think any programmers are going to just pretend like "I Believe" never happened and I don't think it's feasible to pass it off as only a half-hearted effort. I think the song's failure was partially due to the traditional sound and slightly objectionable lyrics (mentioning the Sandy Hook shooting), but I'm sure if an A- or B-lister were to have released that as a single, it would have at least gone top 30, so I think it's a legitimate "black mark" against George Strait's radio career and "I Got a Car" will have the difficult task of re-gaining momentum for an artist whose radio career was already just about over before he released a song that peaked at #50. I guess the momentum he would gain from winning Entertainer of the Year might help his radio success a bit, but I don't see that giving George enough momentum to continue to climb the chart for more than a month or two. I think jhomes87 hit the nail right on the head with her discussion of this song's chart run.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 20, 2013 19:26:19 GMT -5
Here's a question...If " I Got A Car" isn't successful, is George's long run at radio finally over?
Cause I think It would be...
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Post by tim on Oct 20, 2013 19:57:12 GMT -5
Here's a question...If " I Got A Car" isn't successful, is George's long run at radio finally over? Cause I think It would be... Good question. It's obvious we all have strong opinions about the future of this song, almost a us vs. them opinion it seems...those of us that believe it will find an audience, and those who do not. This song hasn't even gone for adds yet so I'm going to wait to see how it plays out come November and December. As a personal request, could we REFRAIN from using CAPS to get our point across? I know we all have our opinions, but its common etiquette on the internet and message boards.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 20, 2013 21:11:17 GMT -5
Here's a question...If " I Got A Car" isn't successful, is George's long run at radio finally over? Cause I think It would be... Good question. It's obvious we all have strong opinions about the future of this song, almost a us vs. them opinion it seems...those of us that believe it will find an audience, and those who do not. This song hasn't even gone for adds yet so I'm going to wait to see how it plays out come November and December. As a personal request, could we REFRAIN from using CAPS to get our point across? I know we all have our opinions, but its common etiquette on the internet and message boards. I've been one of the posters using all CAPS now and then. I'll be the first one to point out that I have flaws in my posting. We all have our problems with certain tendencies in other posts including me. I'll try to curb my uses of them if I use them to much. Thanks for having the nerve to say it cause Ive been posting only three weeks now and Ive read my posts and am still unsatisfied with it overall. I will try harder to do a better job with my grammar in the future. . Thanks for pointing it out. Only way I'll learn is if I'm told. Lol
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Post by straitbabe on Oct 20, 2013 23:46:08 GMT -5
No idea if this foreshadows future success, but I was looking at Mediabase charts tonight and IGAC is being played on 27 stations already and that's almost 2 weeks ahead of MCA's official release date of Nov. 4th. If radio was going to ignore George, perhaps these stations wouldn't be so quick to play it?? I know it's early, but at the very least, it's a good start.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 23, 2013 11:39:43 GMT -5
Starting to pick up:
ERIC CHURCH The Outsiders 52 910 LADY ANTEBELLUM Compass 5 55 FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE Stay 4 47 GEORGE STRAIT I Got A Car 3 36 SCOTTY MCCREERY See You Tonight 1 30
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 26, 2013 12:44:16 GMT -5
"I Got A Car's" release to country radio might be one of the forks in the road when it comes to the future in country radio. With all the non country sounding singles out there and being successful, plus George's recent flops of "Drinkin Man" and "I Believe", along with his age, while others like Alan getting pushed off the airwaves, "I Got A Car" is very crucial in the direction this industry is going. Even though I want and still have faith this will be a hit, I wouldn't be surprised either way. Wether it's a # 1 or a top 30 single and nothing more. Another reason I think this as well is MCA is doing everything in their power to make this a hit. The Entertainer nomination, the CMA performance, the plugs and word of mouth with country radio....Country radio is very aware this song is coming so if it isn't a hit, it will be because country radio had decided their just about done with George getting hits, let alone heavy rotation. I hardly heard from "Give It All We Got Tonight" after it hit # 1. It's like most stations couldn't wait to drop it from 40 spins to 8 spins a week. Which maybe means they thought the 60 for 60 push was a summit of his career, and they completely forgot he had a new studio album out.
Look I know this recent trend will probably continue for a while. Country Radio has made it loud and clear what they want to spin in their playlist (FGL, Blake, Luke, Hunter. Jason, and Jerrod's crappy single...75 committed stations in two weeks says it all). I will keep every finger and toe I have on my body crossed that "I Got A Car" will be a huge smash. I could see it go either way. And to me we will finally see if country radio has a little left in the tank for true country music. Or if they are just about Done.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 26, 2013 23:36:50 GMT -5
^ It's not just George's song that fell hard after a huge-final-push not-really-believable push to #1. Radio should already have been dropping GIAWGT but instead pushed it to the top in a very artificial way -- this has been happening to a fair number of songs lately, and they all crash when they finally drop.
I'm hoping this song hits big, and it's hard to imagine country radio without George Strait. But it was hard to imagine no Merle, no Willie, no Dolly, no Possum. And yet it happened. It's two different things, when country music welcomes traditionalists back and when George Strait gets ignored. They're not dissing George just because he's too traditional; they always drop older artists at some point. I'd love it if George got 5 more years worth of successful singles, but he's not going to get 20 more years even if he sings nothing but duets with FGL and Luke Bryan.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 27, 2013 0:39:08 GMT -5
^ I know the age factor with George, even though it may seem I don't want that to be a reason. To me though Its pretty ironic that radio has seemingly "Aged" George out of radio at the same exact time this newer trend of "country music" hitting our airwaves. It's not just George...ten years ago "What Are You Listening To?", "Fill In The Blank", "You Go Your Way", and "Grandaddy's Gun" all would have been top ten hits. It would be very easy to just accept the evolution the past three years or so in country music. I've been alright for the most part in the changing of this genre till about 2011. But the singles we've gotten have been a burden to country music fans everywhere and they deserve much better. We never thought a song with auto tune through the whole song would ever be on country radio, but low and behold the atrocious "Top Down" by Fast Ryde poisoned our eardrums. Then we never thought rap would enter the genre and hit the top of the charts, and then Jason Aldeans "Dirt Road Anthem" strolled along in heavy rotation. Then...In a genre known for well written, thought out, Emotional, creative, and heartfelt music. We got pure crap released as singles left, right, and center.
1) "Country Girl (Shake It For Me)" 2) "Somethin' Bout A Truck" 3) "Truck Yeah" 4) "Bonfire" 5) "Hey Girl" 6) "Red Solo Cup" 7) "Cruise" 8) "Musta Had A Good Time" 9) "Southern Girl" 10) "Kick It In The Sticks" 11) "Eight Second Ride" 12) "That's My Kind Of Night" 13) "Feel Like A Rock Star" 14) "Drink To that All Night" 15) "1994"
I'm sure there are more but I can't think nor do I want to think of. I'm also sure there will be more in the future, and to be fair some of the above are at the very least country sounding. But even if they are, they are mindless, uncreative, degrading, and boring ("Hey Girl"). I know the end is near if not here already for George. "I Got A Car" is still a terrific country song. There's no excuse for it not to do well. I'm not saying King George should get played for 20 more years, maybe not even five years. But "I Got A Car" is the perfect candidate to test where radio is at in the current landscape of country music. If not this song then what?, if you hadn't noticed there really aren't too many other much younger traditional country artist getting played. The only artist I can think of is Easton, who can't seem to keep his sales up and stay consistent with singles at radio despite high peaks. And Greg Bates who I thought there was real hope due to the success of "Did It For The Girl" but obviously I was mistaken. I have gone much too long in this post, and I think I've stated where I think country music and country radio stand in October 2013.
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Post by straitfan87 on Oct 27, 2013 8:00:23 GMT -5
^ I know the age factor with George, even though it may seem I don't want that to be a reason. To me though Its pretty ironic that radio has seemingly "Aged" George out of radio at the same exact time this newer trend of "country music" hitting our airwaves. It's not just George...ten years ago "What Are You Listening To?", "Fill In The Blank", "You Go Your Way", and "Grandaddy's Gun" all would have been top ten hits. It would be very easy to just accept the evolution the past three years or so in country music. I've been alright for the most part in the changing of this genre till about 2011. But the singles we've gotten have been a burden to country music fans everywhere and they deserve much better. We never thought a song with auto tune through the whole song would ever be on country radio, but low and behold the atrocious "Top Down" by Fast Ryde poisoned our eardrums. Then we never thought rap would enter the genre and hit the top of the charts, and then Jason Aldeans "Dirt Road Anthem" strolled along in heavy rotation. Then...In a genre known for well written, thought out, Emotional, creative, and heartfelt music. We got pure crap released as singles left, right, and center. 1) "Country Girl (Shake It For Me)" 2) "Somethin' Bout A Truck" 3) "Truck Yeah" 4) "Bonfire" 5) "Hey Girl" 6) "Red Solo Cup" 7) "Cruise" 8) "Musta Had A Good Time" 9) "Southern Girl" 10) "Kick It In The Sticks" 11) "Eight Second Ride" 12) "That's My Kind Of Night" 13) "Feel Like A Rock Star" 14) "Drink To that All Night" 15) "1994" I'm sure there are more but I can't think nor do I want to think of. I'm also sure there will be more in the future, and to be fair some of the above are at the very least country sounding. But even if they are, they are mindless, uncreative, degrading, and boring ("Hey Girl"). I know the end is near if not here already for George. "I Got A Car" is still a terrific country song. There's no excuse for it not to do well. I'm not saying King George should get played for 20 more years, maybe not even five years. But "I Got A Car" is the perfect candidate to test where radio is at in the current landscape of country music. If not this song then what?, if you hadn't noticed there really aren't too many other much younger traditional country artist getting played. The only artist I can think of is Easton, who can't seem to keep his sales up and stay consistent with singles at radio despite high peaks. And Greg Bates who I thought there was real hope due to the success of "Did It For The Girl" but obviously I was mistaken. I have gone much too long in this post, and I think I've stated where I think country music and country radio stand in October 2013. It agree with your statements Sabre14. Is this really what it has come down to? I really like Easton, I've got both of his albums and have really enjoyed the material. I also thought Greg Bates was going to take off as well and really liked his two singles. Lets hope "I Got a Car" is received well on "country" radio and climbs the charts.
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Post by dajross6 on Oct 27, 2013 9:41:41 GMT -5
I could see a Garth Brooks movement in 2014 to "Bring the Cowboy Back" or similar sentiment. If Garth releases a new album, there is no way country radio ignores it. At least it's in the back of my mind.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 27, 2013 10:37:05 GMT -5
I share musical tastes with the traditionalists here, although I am not asking radio to play only traditional material. Country radio has never done that. I could make a list of songs I hated from the 1990's or any other decade. You might find it shocking, the stuff that dominated the charts in the 60's and 70's. Hideous stuff -- the kind of material that Waylon and Willie and others rebelled against in the outlaw movement.
But back to Car -- it was #68 on the MB update posted yesterday by the outstanding Buckeye Nation in a different thread. It had nearly 600k in audience, so there's a chance it debuts on the 11/9 Billboard chart, the one released tomorrow (Monday). I think the song will be in the top 40 by its third chart week, if it does debut tomorrow. After that, we'll have to see. It may climb slowly but it may get into the the 10 million range pretty fast. I don't pretend to know -- there are too many possibilities.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 27, 2013 11:36:57 GMT -5
^ I know the age factor with George, even though it may seem I don't want that to be a reason. To me though Its pretty ironic that radio has seemingly "Aged" George out of radio at the same exact time this newer trend of "country music" hitting our airwaves. It's not just George...ten years ago "What Are You Listening To?", "Fill In The Blank", "You Go Your Way", and "Grandaddy's Gun" all would have been top ten hits. It would be very easy to just accept the evolution the past three years or so in country music. I've been alright for the most part in the changing of this genre till about 2011. But the singles we've gotten have been a burden to country music fans everywhere and they deserve much better. We never thought a song with auto tune through the whole song would ever be on country radio, but low and behold the atrocious "Top Down" by Fast Ryde poisoned our eardrums. Then we never thought rap would enter the genre and hit the top of the charts, and then Jason Aldeans "Dirt Road Anthem" strolled along in heavy rotation. Then...In a genre known for well written, thought out, Emotional, creative, and heartfelt music. We got pure crap released as singles left, right, and center. 1) "Country Girl (Shake It For Me)" 2) "Somethin' Bout A Truck" 3) "Truck Yeah" 4) "Bonfire" 5) "Hey Girl" 6) "Red Solo Cup" 7) "Cruise" 8) "Musta Had A Good Time" 9) "Southern Girl" 10) "Kick It In The Sticks" 11) "Eight Second Ride" 12) "That's My Kind Of Night" 13) "Feel Like A Rock Star" 14) "Drink To that All Night" 15) "1994" I'm sure there are more but I can't think nor do I want to think of. I'm also sure there will be more in the future, and to be fair some of the above are at the very least country sounding. But even if they are, they are mindless, uncreative, degrading, and boring ("Hey Girl"). I know the end is near if not here already for George. "I Got A Car" is still a terrific country song. There's no excuse for it not to do well. I'm not saying King George should get played for 20 more years, maybe not even five years. But "I Got A Car" is the perfect candidate to test where radio is at in the current landscape of country music. If not this song then what?, if you hadn't noticed there really aren't too many other much younger traditional country artist getting played. The only artist I can think of is Easton, who can't seem to keep his sales up and stay consistent with singles at radio despite high peaks. And Greg Bates who I thought there was real hope due to the success of "Did It For The Girl" but obviously I was mistaken. I have gone much too long in this post, and I think I've stated where I think country music and country radio stand in October 2013. Though true, many of these listed songs became huge hits. "Cruise", "SBAT", "Hey Girl", "Bonfire", "Southern Girl" and "CGSIFM" hit top 5. 2 more hit top 10 ("Truck Yeah", "Red Solo Cup") That's half. The other 7 failed to make any significant impact. Doesn't change the fact that they were poorly written, but you can take grace in knowing very few became hits. And zazie makes a good point, there will be duds in every era, there will always be that "traditional vs new" attitude.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 27, 2013 13:20:23 GMT -5
^ I know the age factor with George, even though it may seem I don't want that to be a reason. To me though Its pretty ironic that radio has seemingly "Aged" George out of radio at the same exact time this newer trend of "country music" hitting our airwaves. It's not just George...ten years ago "What Are You Listening To?", "Fill In The Blank", "You Go Your Way", and "Grandaddy's Gun" all would have been top ten hits. It would be very easy to just accept the evolution the past three years or so in country music. I've been alright for the most part in the changing of this genre till about 2011. But the singles we've gotten have been a burden to country music fans everywhere and they deserve much better. We never thought a song with auto tune through the whole song would ever be on country radio, but low and behold the atrocious "Top Down" by Fast Ryde poisoned our eardrums. Then we never thought rap would enter the genre and hit the top of the charts, and then Jason Aldeans "Dirt Road Anthem" strolled along in heavy rotation. Then...In a genre known for well written, thought out, Emotional, creative, and heartfelt music. We got pure crap released as singles left, right, and center. 1) "Country Girl (Shake It For Me)" 2) "Somethin' Bout A Truck" 3) "Truck Yeah" 4) "Bonfire" 5) "Hey Girl" 6) "Red Solo Cup" 7) "Cruise" 8) "Musta Had A Good Time" 9) "Southern Girl" 10) "Kick It In The Sticks" 11) "Eight Second Ride" 12) "That's My Kind Of Night" 13) "Feel Like A Rock Star" 14) "Drink To that All Night" 15) "1994" I'm sure there are more but I can't think nor do I want to think of. I'm also sure there will be more in the future, and to be fair some of the above are at the very least country sounding. But even if they are, they are mindless, uncreative, degrading, and boring ("Hey Girl"). I know the end is near if not here already for George. "I Got A Car" is still a terrific country song. There's no excuse for it not to do well. I'm not saying King George should get played for 20 more years, maybe not even five years. But "I Got A Car" is the perfect candidate to test where radio is at in the current landscape of country music. If not this song then what?, if you hadn't noticed there really aren't too many other much younger traditional country artist getting played. The only artist I can think of is Easton, who can't seem to keep his sales up and stay consistent with singles at radio despite high peaks. And Greg Bates who I thought there was real hope due to the success of "Did It For The Girl" but obviously I was mistaken. I have gone much too long in this post, and I think I've stated where I think country music and country radio stand in October 2013. Though true, many of these listed songs became huge hits. "Cruise", "SBAT", "Hey Girl", "Bonfire", "Southern Girl" and "CGSIFM" hit top 5. 2 more hit top 10 ("Truck Yeah", "Red Solo Cup") That's half. The other 7 failed to make any significant impact. Doesn't change the fact that they were poorly written, but you can take grace in knowing very few became hits. And zazie makes a good point, there will be duds in every era, there will always be that "traditional vs new" attitude. First of all, "1994" was still a top 15 hit and sold like crazy. "Eight Second Ride" was a top ten hit. "Kick It In The Sticks" has a stupid ridiculous amount of views on YouTube and also was a big downloaded song. And "Drink To That All Night" is brand new and has a ton of stations on board already. To also comment on Zazies point, the "newer" stuff has never been this bad IMO. At least back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's the "newer" country was played next to the more traditional country. And by the way when I say traditional it doesn't mean it's all steel guitars and getting cheated on songs. I think we can all distinguish true country music. But now the traditional stuff is almost not getting played at all. With the new young demographic of fans coming into country, they are getting the impression this music is the norm. That "Boys Round Here" is what country radio has been playing for 20 years...but it's not. The problem I have is the path continuing this way till most of the 16 to 40 age bracket is used to this "newer" stuff and country radio gets used to this " newer stuff till the regular country music we grew up listening to is gone forever. If pop, hip hop, and rock influence this genre to the point of where it is now much longer the lines separating the genres will be blurred together. I am a fan of some of the newer different country over let's say the past decade ("Hillbillies", "Hicktown", "You Belong With Me", "XXL", etc.) but the past three years have been disturbing and if no one notices in this industry (Cause it doesn't matter what I think) it will be too late.
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