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Post by sergio9603 on Dec 4, 2013 23:32:56 GMT -5
I know everybody leaves eventually. It's a combination of sadness at the impending departure and a lack of worthy successors to carry the flame. (I'm not saying there's nobody, just saying there's a terrible shortage.) No...there's nobody...
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 5, 2013 18:15:11 GMT -5
From today's Billboard Country Update:
With Reba McEntire (58), Alan Jackson (55) and Vince Gill (56) no longer generating reliable current airplay, despite all still having record deals, that leaves George Strait (61) as not just the oldest current country hit maker, but also the oldest radio-friendly star to still have a major-label deal. Not far behind, and representing that category to varying degrees, are Kix Brooks (58), Toby Keith (52) and Trace Adkins (51). Male stars still consistently getting airplay in their 40s include Craig Morgan (49), Darius Rucker (47), Keith Urban (46), Tim McGraw (46), Kenny Chesney (45) and Brad Paisley (41).
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 5, 2013 18:18:34 GMT -5
Wow! How could that be..... Time Flysssss by. :o
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Post by zjames on Dec 5, 2013 18:19:54 GMT -5
I'm afraid this one's done for good. It has a bullet of -60 in today's Mediabase update, and I just don't see a situation where this comes back, especially with the holidays coming up. What a shame.
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Post by someguy on Dec 5, 2013 22:27:32 GMT -5
From today's Billboard Country Update: With Reba McEntire (58), Alan Jackson (55) and Vince Gill (56) no longer generating reliable current airplay, despite all still having record deals, that leaves George Strait (61) as not just the oldest current country hit maker, but also the oldest radio-friendly star to still have a major-label deal. Not far behind, and representing that category to varying degrees, are Kix Brooks (58), Toby Keith (52) and Trace Adkins (51). Male stars still consistently getting airplay in their 40s include Craig Morgan (49), Darius Rucker (47), Keith Urban (46), Tim McGraw (46), Kenny Chesney (45) and Brad Paisley (41). Looking at George and Reba's latest albums though, I wouldn't exactly call him still a 'hit maker' and her not. Her lead single went to #1, his #2 (with a massive orchestrated push). Her second single hit #22, his #50. Her third single peaked at #40, while his is on track to peak at #43. I'd definitely put them in the same category in terms of current/future potential radio success.
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Post by someguy on Dec 6, 2013 6:57:18 GMT -5
^George's lead single went to #1, but by dirty methods. Yeah it did on Mediabase. This article is a Billboard one though, so I was using their chart (as I'm sure they were). But yeah, they rigged the Mediabase chart to hit #1 there.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Dec 6, 2013 11:10:25 GMT -5
From today's Billboard Country Update: With Reba McEntire (58), Alan Jackson (55) and Vince Gill (56) no longer generating reliable current airplay, despite all still having record deals, that leaves George Strait (61) as not just the oldest current country hit maker, but also the oldest radio-friendly star to still have a major-label deal. Not far behind, and representing that category to varying degrees, are Kix Brooks (58), Toby Keith (52) and Trace Adkins (51). Male stars still consistently getting airplay in their 40s include Craig Morgan (49), Darius Rucker (47), Keith Urban (46), Tim McGraw (46), Kenny Chesney (45) and Brad Paisley (41). Trace Adkins didn't help his situation any by teaming up with Colbie Callieat (sp?), that song only reached #48 or so. Toby Keith keeps putting out drinking songs to where everything that is sung by him is drinking songs, drinking songs, drinking songs until it got tiresome and "Red Solo Cup" should have been it but he kept on and on with the subject. I'm surprised that Martina McBride didn't make the list at all as she's close to 50 and after "I'm Gonna Love You Through It", her singles went downhill in a hurry not even the duet with Train's lead singer "Marry Me" didn't help and I thought she sang it at the CMA's in 2012. Ronnie Dunn is 60 but he has had limited success with his singles "Bleed Red" went Top 10 and "Cost of Livin'" went Top 20 and after "Let The Cowboy Rock" and his Facebook posts it has gone downhill. Kix Brooks' singles stalled in the Top 40 and Top 50 so both their careers haven't really been the same since they broke up. Wished that they could reunite as a duo, they were better than that as a duo than they are solo. Brad Paisley has suffered with a lackluster song with "I Can't Change The World" and now "The Mona Lisa" might not make Top 40 even though it's going for adds next week. People may be getting tired of Brad pushing the envelope so to speak and some of his "praise" and "self-absorbed" songs like "Welcome To The Future" and "Southern Comfort Zone" and "I Can't Change The World" may be getting tiresome as is Toby's drinking songs. I believe that it's been ages since Brad and Toby even released a ballad to country radio. I miss songs like "You Shouldn't Kiss Me Like This" and "We Danced" and "Then" not this dreck that they're shoveling one on top of another.
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Post by kirkw on Dec 6, 2013 11:53:18 GMT -5
Can't imagine country radio without George Strait. What I'm going to do is play George's new stuff and act as though it's on the radio to get me through it. I don't get it other than I'm 57 and over the hill as far as mainstream music tastes. The younger crowd apparently sees "country music" differently than many of us on this board. There has to be a market for someone to launch a real country format that can still attract enough of a younger demo to be successful. I loved what was happening with radio in the late 80s through the nineties. Then, George was Geroge, and Randy Travis, Clint Black, Alan Jackson, Reba, Vince Gill and Garth Brooks made country music a cool thing. Travis Trit, Sammy Kershaw are a couple more who really helped make that a glorious time in country music.
We have some good young talent now but they can't break through with good material. Chris Young is one example that came out traditional behind as good a country voice I've ever heard, but didn't translate into sales matching his talent so he's drifted away to a more rock influenced sound to stay viable. If he can't make it work to mega sales with the talent he has, who can?
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Post by drummerman2009 on Dec 6, 2013 12:39:23 GMT -5
Is it me or do I think that no one really benefited in any sales jumps because of the CMA's? George Strait's album didn't benefit from this nor has this single on account that he won for Entertainer of the Year. What bothers me more is that a lot of singers (Reba McEntire, Martina McBride, Trace Adkins, George Strait) have gone downhill quickly rather than it being gradual. As Jerry Reed sang "When You're Hot, You're Hot When You're Not, You're Not" and that may apply here.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 6, 2013 14:42:47 GMT -5
Can't imagine country radio without George Strait. What I'm going to do is play George's new stuff and act as though it's on the radio to get me through it. I don't get it other than I'm 57 and over the hill as far as mainstream music tastes. The younger crowd apparently sees "country music" differently than many of us on this board. How do you think I feel. I'm only 24 and sometimes feel I am on an Island by myself when it comes to my country music taste. I still am a little sad I wasn't old enough to fully enjoy the late 80's, early 90's and listen to George, Alan, Clint, Garth, Sammy, Sawyer Brown and numerous others on the radio on a consistent basis.
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Post by dajross6 on Dec 6, 2013 15:20:39 GMT -5
I'm still hopeful for the song. It seems it was dropped completely by a block of stations, but it's still chugging along at a low rate by the same other stations. I'm crossing my fingers MCA pushes this once his tour is going in January.
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Post by kw9461 on Dec 7, 2013 13:03:09 GMT -5
Up .288 overnight, best day in some time. Not a cause for celebration, but at least funeral plans can be put on hold for the time being. As long as this can survive the holidays, I still give it a chance to be a hit - it just has to have that chance to be heard. Early Radiofeedback scores are excellent, only song in the top 10 of that survey not currently in the airplay top 15. Call me naive - but I still have hope that country music isn't dead. And if this can't even crack the T40 - then the country radio that I know is indeed dead.
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Post by tim on Dec 8, 2013 9:32:30 GMT -5
This is showing signs of life again as it ends out the week, up to just over 3.5. Last week's update had this at 3.28 but dipped well below that throughout the week. Not that it matters any, but on the way to work the other morning the local DJ introduced this as "George's next #1." I still think radio is going to get behind this one after all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 21:32:44 GMT -5
I need to see more consistent growth before I can say whether this will climb much or not. The drops, followed by a couple of decent gains these last couple of days, don't mean anything to me. This one's spin count has been really fluctuating at Dial Global's Mainstream Country, a satellite station that is only on the Mediabase panel. 1 spin at DGMC translates to about 100k in audience. It's fairly easy to figure that out, because George is up to 12 spins there over the last 7 days, accounting for 1.3 million in audience. Parmalee, at #1 on DGMC's playlist, has 38 spins and 3.7 million in audience.
Last week, IGAC lost a lot of audience at MB, mostly due to a decline in spins at DGMC. Now it has gained a few of those spins back in the last couple of days, so I'm guessing that most of the MB gains are a result of one single station that, in the Billboard world, doesn't matter.
So, I need to see more. Let's get some big market stations on board, and let's see this make a serious move toward the top 40.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 9, 2013 1:37:18 GMT -5
I need to see more consistent growth before I can say whether this will climb much or not. The drops, followed by a couple of decent gains these last couple of days, don't mean anything to me. This one's spin count has been really fluctuating at Dial Global's Mainstream Country, a satellite station that is only on the Mediabase panel. 1 spin at DGMC translates to about 100k in audience. It's fairly easy to figure that out, because George is up to 12 spins there over the last 7 days, accounting for 1.3 million in audience. Parmalee, at #1 on DGMC's playlist, has 38 spins and 3.7 million in audience. Last week, IGAC lost a lot of audience at MB, mostly due to a decline in spins at DGMC. Now it has gained a few of those spins back in the last couple of days, so I'm guessing that most of the MB gains are a result of one single station that, in the Billboard world, doesn't matter. So, I need to see more. Let's get some big market stations on board, and let's see this make a serious move toward the top 40. Another factor related, maybe, to the big-market stations is the countdown shows, which could boost audience and move this song up a bit, maybe even generate a few adds. But Car is doing worse on MB than on BB, thanks to the low spin total, making the countdown shows unreachable. Until this song hits the top 40 on the MB chart, I don't see it as having a pathway to the top 25 or so (the level which you have to have 10 million in BB audience to reach). I agree it should have a bullet on tomorrow's BB chart. That should guarantee it a chart position through Christmas, unless there are so many Christmas songs he gets booted for one week. He'd re-enter the week after that. He's not in danger of going recurrent before Christmas, at any rate, which I couldn't have said with confidence a couple of days ago.
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Post by someguy on Dec 9, 2013 22:04:03 GMT -5
Part of me wonders if some of the trouble this song is having is due to George's age in relation to the lyrics. He could really be the grandfather of the couple he is singing about, rather than the male lead in the story.
He bullets at Billboard tonight, despite losing spins and audience, and moved back up one space to #47.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 9, 2013 22:18:41 GMT -5
^Well I don't expect George to be releasing his own version of "I Don't Need Your Rocking Chair" anytime soon, so radio should suck it up and get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 0:28:25 GMT -5
Another 6 adds on Mediabase this week. C'mon, radio...George may be older but there's no reason to not play good music.
If this winds up being a sizable hit, it's gonna take forever to get up the chart.
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Post by whynotnow on Dec 10, 2013 18:37:23 GMT -5
^George's lead single went to #1, but by dirty methods. GIAWG is still selling on I-tunes. It went platinum, and I still hear it played. I truly believe it would have reached number one or two on its own merit, but not in time for the Sixty for Sixty that MCA wanted, so they pushed and pushed hard. Not "dirty method" in my book. But then we all don't read the same books. :)
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Post by tim on Jan 2, 2014 1:00:00 GMT -5
Giving this a bump as it jumps back up to #44 with a 4.123 (granted dial global is giving this a good bit of audience, but still). This is showing signs of life again as it should with the last leg of George's tour about to start. KTEX in McAllen was on this song from the get go (I used to live in the valley of Texas and that station loves George)...Houston and Orlando are also jumping on it. A special shout out to carriekins for thinking of me...I'm going to get to see George after all! She truly has made my new year and I am so thankful for people such as her on this board. The country pmb board is like one big family! If anyone else is going to the Austin show let me know.
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Post by dajross6 on Jan 2, 2014 11:53:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure how the current uptick is going to look after the holiday mess, but the song is up to #41 with a nice jump. Hopefully it's more than just a station or two giving it heavier airplay and more of a trend. Let's hope this cracks the top 40 for the extra spins and maybe casual listeners will hear the song and ask for it to be played more :)
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jan 2, 2014 13:54:25 GMT -5
I haven't heard this song on Y100 in San Antonio as of yet and usually they always play George Strait's new songs out of the gate but not "I Got A Car" unless they're playing it late at night or something.
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Post by Zazie on Jan 2, 2014 14:20:16 GMT -5
Up 600k on MB today, which is a bigger move than the other songs in George's low section of the chart. Doesn't prove much, since some of the gains might just be non-billboard stations or satellite spins. (Obviously today's MB update is an unusual day, on which the Christmas day spins are dropped, but it's unusual for every song, not just George.)
I don't know whether this song's going to make a move, but at least we're going to find out soon. No more delays! Let's have the answer.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 2, 2014 16:21:19 GMT -5
I was coming home last night from a relatives house around 9:00 P.M or so. For some reason I decided to switch from the Sirius/XM radio to WYRK which had on Taste of Country Nights with Clay Moden as fill in host for the departed Jeremy Robinson (Again, I don't know why I even bothered switching). But I'm glad I did because I heard "I Got A Car". In fact I thought I had one of my burned CD's in the player for a few seconds. Cause there's no way that the awful Taste of Country Nights was going to be playing a song bouncing in the 40's. But sure enough it was. So of course I turned it up and sang along, because for some reason it sounded particularly good at that point in time :).
The update today is encouraging. But it seems like every song has a strong bullet, so I'll take it for what's it's worth. But I agree with Zazie's above post. We will finally find out if "I Got A Car" is going to take off or not in the next two or three weeks. Maybe the chance encounter of this song being played on a sub-par nationally syndicated radio show is a sign from above ;).
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Post by churchchoir on Jan 2, 2014 17:35:05 GMT -5
I don't think we can decide anything about this song's future based on one day. Songs that are struggling have random "good days" frequently. As for the notion that we will suddenly start to see if this will climb the charts over the next few weeks, I don't quite understand that. I'm more expecting the song to continue to slug it's way through the 30's at the same pace over the next few months. Maybe this will hit the top 40 and start to gain traction like David Nail's latest song, but if the song does continue to struggle, does that mean it will never start to pick up the pace? I just don't think we can judge any song's future based off this week. Songs from Dustin Lynch, Darius Rucker, and Brothers Osborne were just about done before Christmas, yet now they have healthy bullets. This is kind of a week when everything comes back to life.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 2, 2014 18:22:19 GMT -5
I don't think we can decide anything about this song's future based on one day. Songs that are struggling have random "good days" frequently. As for the notion that we will suddenly start to see if this will climb the charts over the next few weeks, I don't quite understand that. I'm more expecting the song to continue to slug it's way through the 30's at the same pace over the next few months. Maybe this will hit the top 40 and start to gain traction like David Nail's latest song, but if the song does continue to struggle, does that mean it will never start to pick up the pace? I just don't think we can judge any song's future based off this week. Songs from Dustin Lynch, Darius Rucker, and Brothers Osborne were just about done before Christmas, yet now they have healthy bullets. This is kind of a week when everything comes back to life. Brothers Osborne was already done. It was falling hard before Christmas and it's gone from its #36 peak down to #50.
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Post by kw9461 on Jan 2, 2014 23:48:58 GMT -5
We certainly can't make any long term prognostications off of this week, but the fear that this could miss the T40 outright seems to be dissipating. It's already up to #41, so it only needs to jump one more spot by Sunday to get into the countdown shows. A week ago this had fallen all the way out of the Top 50, and barely had a 2.0 aud (2.2 on the 25th, so it was presumably lower on the 26th). Dial Global has certainly helped to the tune of 1.253, but that still leaves a healthy jump of around 1.5 that will hopefully translate to BB. I know everything in the chart is having a great week, obviously, but comparatively George is still having a great week when measured against the other songs in the bottom 15 spots on the chart. I still contend that if this song can just work its way into the T30 and start getting into medium rotation, there will be no stopping it being a hit. Still a ways to go to get to that point though.
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Post by Zazie on Jan 7, 2014 0:44:23 GMT -5
Up to 43 on the 1/18 Billboard, and near the top of a large group of songs Car needs to hold at bay. If he can do that, top 40 on next week's Billboard looks like a safe bet. Cop Car might move up quickly, but if nobody else passes George and a few songs drop below him or go recurrent (Parmalee; Hunter Hayes: Eric Church's Outsiders; maybe the Keith Urban duet depending on what rules BB is following now), then he will slide up a bit. Maybe he can pass Leah Turner.
I don't know how that will translate into the MB chart position, but I'm optimistic there too. Someday Taylor Swift's song has to go recurrent, right? And Parmalee too.
I'm still having to talk myself into being optimistic. I'll be out of my mind completely if this starts to act like a future top 10. Luckily I have a few months to arrange for the requisite medications.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 8, 2014 11:26:24 GMT -5
Up to 43 on the 1/18 Billboard, and near the top of a large group of songs Car needs to hold at bay. If he can do that, top 40 on next week's Billboard looks like a safe bet. Cop Car might move up quickly, but if nobody else passes George and a few songs drop below him or go recurrent (Parmalee; Hunter Hayes: Eric Church's Outsiders; maybe the Keith Urban duet depending on what rules BB is following now), then he will slide up a bit. Maybe he can pass Leah Turner. I don't know how that will translate into the MB chart position, but I'm optimistic there too. Someday Taylor Swift's song has to go recurrent, right? And Parmalee too. I'm still having to talk myself into being optimistic. I'll be out of my mind completely if this starts to act like a future top 10. Luckily I have a few months to arrange for the requisite medications. Funny. I want I Got A Car to be top 40 #98 for George Strait and his 87th top ten as well.
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Post by Zazie on Jan 8, 2014 22:52:05 GMT -5
So far, with a lot of the week left to allow for re-arrangements, it looks like a race among Gary Allan, Charlie Worsham, and George for either one or two positions in the top 40 (depending on whether BB pulls the Urban duet this coming week). There are some songs that could pass George by next Monday morning as well. No guarantees. But top 40 would be very nice, especially because he's so close to being able to count his 100th top 40 song.
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