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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 17:46:59 GMT -5
Great ad for this one in Country Aircheck Monday night: Warner Bros. really put that ad together well! :) From what I've read it seems that Charlie and Brett 'wowed' people/programmers the most at CRS. Charlie has had some better MB updates this week and Brett had a pretty good update today (313k gain but +99 in spins was really impressive). "Want Me Too" is just such a good song and I've been blasting Charlie's album again this past week. I can't remember the last album that I enjoyed so much...and I have liked a lot of albums. Rubberband, though, is probably my favorite album in at least 6 years, maybe more than that. It's got everything I like...the instruments, sounds, lyrics & stories, vocals, hooks. It's just flawless to me. I don't hear "Want Me Too" very often on the radio but I'm gonna wind up burning a hole through my CD! Hopefully the song can really catch on at radio though--it still has a long way to go but the last couple of days have looked better and I really hope the CRS show does wonders for him.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 1, 2014 21:00:45 GMT -5
When I heard "Could It Be", I knew that a song that good couldn't be a fluke. "Want Me Too" is almost as good, and I would love to see it be a slow-burning hit.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 1, 2014 23:53:23 GMT -5
I must say, the lyrics of the opening verse of this song are fantastic. "You've got a lock on your heart, it's chained in the dark And somehow you lost the key You said you tried everything to get love back again But baby you ain't tried me Bet I can break on through If you want me to""Tell me what it takes to put a smile on your face And leave your lonely days behind I can take it from there, get you floatin' on air Girl, if you just give me a sign That you want me to Do you want me too"Those lyrics coupled with the instrumentation, along with little things like putting the banjo with the skippin' stones on the water lyric are just a sign Charlie is a super talented songwriter. Again, nothing atom splitting here, but I think it's pretty evident he could be big if given the chance. This isn't even in my top three tracks from his album. My favorite is still that very cool title track. Edit: Lol, I didn't even see that there was a lyric breakdown of "Play It Again" 10 minutes before this one of "Want Me Too". Swear to God I didn't plan that
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Post by Markus Meyer on Mar 2, 2014 0:08:51 GMT -5
I must say, the lyrics of the opening verse of this song are fantastic. "You've got a lock on your heart, it's chained in the dark And somehow you lost the key You said you tried everything to get love back again But baby you ain't tried me Bet I can break on through If you want me to""Tell me what it takes to put a smile on your face And leave your lonely days behind I can take it from there, get you floatin' on air Girl, if you just give me a sign That you want me to Do you want me too"Those lyrics coupled with the instrumentation, along with little things like putting the banjo with the skippin' stones on the water lyric are just a sign Charlie is a super talented songwriter. Again, nothing atom splitting here, but I think it's pretty evident he could be big if given the chance. This isn't even in my top three tracks from his album. My favorite is still that very cool title track. Edit: Lol, I didn't even see that there was a lyric breakdown of "Play It Again" 10 minutes before this one of "Want Me Too". Swear to God I didn't plan that Another new avi?! You guys are messing with my head now. I completely agree with that assessment. I've seen some Keith Urban comparisons, and I completely agree. Especially with the flow and melody. If this song isn't huge I give up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 1:18:39 GMT -5
Despite a slower climb for this, the radio industry seems to be behind him. Compared to the other CRS New Faces performers, Charlie hasn't had nearly as much of a commercial impact. But I think radio personnel voted him in there because they get how talented he is.
The problem remains the lack of commercial success, and it is puzzling to me. I get that the popular sounds right now are found in songs like "Chillin' It", "That's My Kind Of Night", "Get Me Some Of That", etc. I understand that, and I understand why those songs are popular sellers. But I just don't understand why Charlie's type of music isn't popular too, and why it can't sell decently well also. On the iTunes country songs chart, "Want Me Too" is only at #384. It's not selling, AT ALL. And it's worse when you compare this one to all the other songs on the airplay chart. Every single song in the top 40 at radio is in the top 100 at iTunes (country-only) except for Craig Campbell (109), Sheryl Crow (345), and Leah Turner (261). So all the other songs can make the top 100 but Charlie can barely make the top 400? And I think Rubberband has only sold about 25k copies total. :'( Charlie's only hope is that radio really gets behind him and exposes this type of music to listeners, because I'm confident he would be popular. A lot of consumers rely on the radio to tell them what is good/popular.
Another tidbit: Chase Rice's song is at #42 on iTunes, The Cadillac Three is at #41...
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Post by someguy on Mar 2, 2014 1:34:28 GMT -5
I got this album last week based on recommendations, and I really like it. I'm not sure why there isn't a place for this type of music either. Like I said earlier, I'm fine with some bro country stuff getting played, but there's no reason why it should be the only style of country that succeeds at radio. "Want Me Too" is such a good song, and Rubberband is such a good album, but it's in serious danger of not being heard.
I'm slightly concerned that "Want Me Too" has peaked already. I'm hopeful that the CRS support, and the label support (the fact that they even released the album shows that Warner Bros. is committed to him) will keep things going a bit longer, but I'm worried that it won't get much higher on the charts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 2:09:11 GMT -5
I'm slightly concerned that "Want Me Too" has peaked already. I'm hopeful that the CRS support, and the label support (the fact that they even released the album shows that Warner Bros. is committed to him) will keep things going a bit longer, but I'm worried that it won't get much higher on the charts. I'm really glad that you bought the album!! :) I agree with your overall concerns but I don't think "Want Me Too" is anywhere near done yet, despite its low sales. I think Warner Music Nashville is really committed to Charlie and again, I think it was a huge triumph for Charlie to be named one of the 5 performers at CRS' New Faces show--that, to me, really shows that he does have a lot of support from radio, even if this song or the fans haven't caught on quite yet. The New Faces show was on Friday, the 21st, and in the 1st week post-CRS, "Want Me Too" actually did way better on Mediabase than it had been doing in the weeks leading up to CRS (and based off glowing reviews of Charlie's performance, I don't think that's a coincidence). Charlie's gains this past week: 02/28: +358k 02/27: +069k 02/26: +101k 02/25: +305k 02/24: +116k 02/23: -147k 02/22: -058k The week before that: 02/21: -104k 02/20: -001k 02/19: -015k 02/18: +023k 02/17: +085k 02/16: +137k 02/15: -092k WMT had been really struggling there, but by early/mid-week this past week (updates of the 24th/25th), when programmers likely returned from CRS and when they typically adjust their playlists, WMT started to pick up quite a bit. Charlie's gains in the last 4-5 days have been better than nearly every other song outside the top 30. I noticed a decent spike for Brett Eldredge's song as well, and some somewhat smaller spikes for current singles from Thomas Rhett and Tyler Farr. Anyway, I would say that I am really concerned as well (notably due to the low sales numbers) but I am also still hopeful. If songs like this can't become hits anymore, though, I might stop listening to the radio altogether. I have places like Pulse to discover new music, and I have my computer's music collection and my CD's, too. But like others have said, I still want Charlie to do well on radio (even if I'm not listening) because that's how they become successful and how they get their music out there.
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Post by someguy on Mar 2, 2014 2:21:26 GMT -5
I'm slightly concerned that "Want Me Too" has peaked already. I'm hopeful that the CRS support, and the label support (the fact that they even released the album shows that Warner Bros. is committed to him) will keep things going a bit longer, but I'm worried that it won't get much higher on the charts. I'm really glad that you bought the album!! :) I agree with your overall concerns but I don't think "Want Me Too" is anywhere near done yet, despite its low sales. I think Warner Music Nashville is really committed to Charlie and again, I think it was a huge triumph for Charlie to be named one of the 5 performers at CRS' New Faces show--that, to me, really shows that he does have a lot of support from radio, even if this song or the fans haven't caught on quite yet. The New Faces show was on Friday, the 21st, and in the 1st week post-CRS, "Want Me Too" actually did way better on Mediabase than it had been doing in the weeks leading up to CRS (and based off glowing reviews of Charlie's performance, I don't think that's a coincidence). Charlie's gains this past week: 02/28: +358k 02/27: +069k 02/26: +101k 02/25: +305k 02/24: +116k 02/23: -147k 02/22: -058k The week before that: 02/21: -104k 02/20: -001k 02/19: -015k 02/18: +023k 02/17: +085k 02/16: +137k 02/15: -092k WMT had been really struggling there, but by early/mid-week this past week (updates of the 24th/25th), when programmers likely returned from CRS and when they typically adjust their playlists, WMT started to pick up quite a bit. Charlie's gains in the last 4-5 days have been better than nearly every other song outside the top 30. I noticed a decent spike for Brett Eldredge's song as well, and some somewhat smaller spikes for current singles from Thomas Rhett and Tyler Farr. Anyway, I would say that I am really concerned as well (notably due to the low sales numbers) but I am also still hopeful. If songs like this can't become hits anymore, though, I might stop listening to the radio altogether. I have places like Pulse to discover new music, and I have my computer's music collection and my CD's, too. But like others have said, I still want Charlie to do well on radio (even if I'm not listening) because that's how they become successful and how they get their music out there. The bolded part of your post is exactly how I feel. I stopped listening to radio maybe a year and a half ago (ever since I got my new truck where I can hook my iPod up to the stereo in it), but I still want artists I like to do well so they can get the exposure from radio. The internet (Pulse, AllAccess and YouTube especially) is where I hear all new music now, but it's still nice to see songs I like become hits. Though these days, the songs I like seem to stall out in the 30s and 40s a lot of the time .
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Post by rjz on Mar 2, 2014 9:35:41 GMT -5
This is fantastic!
I'm not sure why I didn't pick this album up yet, except I was going to after great reviews here on Pulse, then my radio station ruined his first single by playing it constantly when it was peaking :( So I think that turned me off and made me kind of sick of his voice.
Well, I just remedied that after listening to the above and bought the album on iTunes :)
I do see comparisons between Charlie and Keith-LOVE the guitar sound in this song and the pop sound -can't wait to listen to the rest of the album. Right now the first two singles sound pretty pop country to me, although people are referring to it as traditional country??
Not sure either why his sales are lower-except I think he hasn't had the media presence some others have (maybe Charlie needs a reality show). Also the insistence on Bro-country which most top 10 male artists have jumped on the band wagon. Charlie is a breath of fresh air for me just like Hunter Hayes (although Hunter needs to up his game again after the boring Invisible). Young girls should be all over him.......if they are just exposed to his face and music. Hope Country radio gets on board big time with this one or the next.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 14:47:07 GMT -5
I do see comparisons between Charlie and Keith-LOVE the guitar sound in this song and the pop sound -can't wait to listen to the rest of the album. Right now the first two singles sound pretty pop country to me, although people are referring to it as traditional country?? There are definitely elements of pop-country here, but every song on the album features heavy use of banjo, and there is plenty of mandolin, steel guitar, and other traditional instruments to be found, which of course aren't found on many mainstream country albums these days. He also has a very strong voice and the songs on Rubberband are quite mature and well-written.
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Post by Andy on Mar 2, 2014 14:55:47 GMT -5
I do see comparisons between Charlie and Keith-LOVE the guitar sound in this song and the pop sound -can't wait to listen to the rest of the album. Right now the first two singles sound pretty pop country to me, although people are referring to it as traditional country?? There are definitely elements of pop-country here, but every song on the album features heavy use of banjo, and there is plenty of mandolin, steel guitar, and other traditional instruments to be found, which of course aren't found on many mainstream country albums these days. He also has a very strong voice and the songs on Rubberband are quite mature and well-written. Couldn't agree more. I like Rubberband better with every listen.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 11, 2014 13:06:48 GMT -5
Charlie's song has been able to hold steady for a few weeks now, but these past two weeks or so have me concerned that "Want Me Too" is in trouble. It's update this week on Mediabase so far is a decrease of 46 spins. It's only going to be passed by Brad this week, but with the house cleaning already out of the way there aren't going to be too many songs going recurrent the next couple weeks. "Want Me Too" is only 18 weeks old, so maybe it can find a second wind that other songs around the spot it's in have done in the past like "Wake Up Lovin' You" by Craig Morgan, but I'm pessimistic about "Want Me Too's" long term future.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 18:38:16 GMT -5
It took a rough hit on today's Mediabase update, that's for sure. I'm still thinking Warner Bros. will stay with this and get it up the charts a bit higher, even though it's obviously going to be a slow climb.
Today's music-buyers aren't buying Charlie's music though. I think part of that has to do with the fact that he's one of very few major label artists who released his debut album without a big hit first, and so most casual listeners aren't really aware of him. But it also just seems that people don't "get" Charlie...his material sounds very radio-friendly to me and yet it's not the "bro" sound and it doesn't have electric guitars and lots of drum beats, hip-hop influences, and other pop/rock sounds...so it's just not getting noticed by consumers, and the low airplay isn't helping.
As of last night, this song was only #364 on the iTunes country chart. Other songs in his section of Billboard...Lee Brice was at #19, The Swon Brothers at #100, George Strait at #20, Cole Swindell at #37, Chase Rice at #31, Gary Allan at #119, Cadillac Three at #42, and Chuck Wicks at #56 (granted, Chase and Chuck's songs are both currently 69cents but Chase's has always been selling pretty well). Even songs way down in the 50's on the airplay chart are at least in the 200-300 range on the iTunes chart.
So if radio pays attention to the sales too much, this one is definitely in trouble. But they all loved Charlie when he did his radio tour and the CRS show, and the label seems really supportive yet...but for some reason the fans just haven't discovered this guy.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 11, 2014 20:52:04 GMT -5
It took a rough hit on today's Mediabase update, that's for sure. I'm still thinking Warner Bros. will stay with this and get it up the charts a bit higher, even though it's obviously going to be a slow climb. Today's music-buyers aren't buying Charlie's music though. I think part of that has to do with the fact that he's one of very few major label artists who released his debut album without a big hit first, and so most casual listeners aren't really aware of him. But it also just seems that people don't "get" Charlie...his material sounds very radio-friendly to me and yet it's not the "bro" sound and it doesn't have electric guitars and lots of drum beats, hip-hop influences, and other pop/rock sounds...so it's just not getting noticed by consumers, and the low airplay isn't helping. As of last night, this song was only #364 on the iTunes country chart. Other songs in his section of Billboard...Lee Brice was at #19, The Swon Brothers at #100, George Strait at #20, Cole Swindell at #37, Chase Rice at #31, Gary Allan at #119, Cadillac Three at #42, and Chuck Wicks at #56 (granted, Chase and Chuck's songs are both currently 69cents but Chase's has always been selling pretty well). Even songs way down in the 50's on the airplay chart are at least in the 200-300 range on the iTunes chart. So if radio pays attention to the sales too much, this one is definitely in trouble. But they all loved Charlie when he did his radio tour and the CRS show, and the label seems really supportive yet...but for some reason the fans just haven't discovered this guy. I think they should definitely release "Rubberband" to radio. It's perhaps the best bridge of sounds from what radio loves to what Charlie does. Plus it just sounds so cool and rockin'.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 12, 2014 12:45:16 GMT -5
I swear, every time I pick what the next big dark horse hit will be, I miss by a mile. I guess because I'm not quite as "mainstream" as Matt is, nor as "outsider" as many of you here are, so I miss out both ways.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 19:23:15 GMT -5
I think they should definitely release "Rubberband" to radio. It's perhaps the best bridge of sounds from what radio loves to what Charlie does. Plus it just sounds so cool and rockin'. I definitely think that "Rubberband" should be the next single, but I'm not ready to give up on "Want Me Too" yet, and I hope the label has the same line of thinking. Up until this week it had been holding its ground with some decent gains but the last few days have been pretty rough. I would like to see WMT get up into the 20's and see if it catches on some more. It's such a good song, and it sounds so refreshing compared to a lot of the other stuff on today's country radio.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Apr 15, 2014 8:54:26 GMT -5
Charlie's debut single was "Could it be". My stations around here don't play it anymore, either.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 15, 2014 10:58:10 GMT -5
-215 on Mediabase. That pretty much confirms its done. What was his debut single again? My radio station played it a lot but now they don't and I forgot all about it. \given that it wasn't a Top 10 hit, that isn't uncommon. MANY songs end up off in the ether after radio is done playing them during the song's lifecycle. Sometimes they'll get maybe 5 plays a week if lucky. This goes for many Top 5 and #1 hits too. It's rare to hear songs like "Independence Day" where it becomes an artist's signature song w/o being a Top 10 hit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 14:08:06 GMT -5
@brian, I don't know what chart you are looking at but all your numbers are way off. The song is struggling, no doubt, but its 7-day spin change (bullet) is only -44. Again, he's struggling, but this isn't done yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 20:16:34 GMT -5
This barely managed to re-bullet on both charts this week, but I'll take it. It would seem to indicate that Warner Bros. is still fighting for airplay here.
Also of note, "Want Me Too" has seen a meteoric rise at Callout America over the last couple of weeks. It's now testing top 5, with passion scores rivaling those of Luke Bryan, Rascal Flatts, The Band Perry, Joe Nichols, George Strait, and Miranda Lambert.
It's not selling at all, but I think that's because people simply don't know who Charlie is. He hasn't had that real break-out hit yet like we've seen with label-mates Frankie Ballard, Cole Swindell, and Brett Eldredge.
Charlie's sound might not be all that popular with the downloading crowd either--I'm sure that works against him--but I think there are still plenty of listeners that want to hear this kind of country on the airwaves. Now, if only radio wouldn't ignore them...
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 28, 2014 14:37:43 GMT -5
I'm afraid that "Want Me Too" is nearing it's end. Just a brutal update today on Mediabase. It's down 112 spins and has been treading water for a couple weeks now. I know that Warner is trying their best to get this song played but it just doesn't seem to be taking off like they planned. Charlie's music is fantastic and his album is easily one of the best album's by a newcomer I've ever heard. If "Want Me Too" is done, I hope that they continue to push singles from this album.
"Rubberband" please....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 14:52:40 GMT -5
Yeah, this is done. I just hope they release at least one more single. I'm worried that they might not, since the album has hardly sold anything at all, and the singles aren't selling either.
"Rubberband" for 3rd single, or bust. It's not my favorite song left on the album but it's got the best chance of becoming a hit, maybe even better than WMT's chances, and definitely better than CIB's chances. I'm still not sure why "Could It Be" was the lead single...I think either "Rubberband" or "Want Me Too" as the lead would've gone top 10 or better, and that would've changed everything.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 28, 2014 15:00:39 GMT -5
^ I'm afraid they might decide to cut their loses and not release another single as well. But "Rubberband" is what I wanted released from the get go, so I'm praying that they decide to give radio a third single. The bad sales for "Want Me Too" coupled with it's poor chart position after the album didn't exactly light the world on fire makes me skeptical though, you're right.
To me Charlie arrived a few years too late. If "Want Me Too" was released in the early to mid 2000's it would have easily had a better outcome.
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Post by churchchoir on Apr 28, 2014 16:48:58 GMT -5
A rough couple of weeks for Warner Brothers. Three of their songs pretty much collapsed ("19 You + Me," "Callin' Me When I'm Lonely," and "Want Me Too"). At least they've still got Brett Eldredge climbing through the top 10.
Unfortunately, I doubt they'll release another single with how poorly Charlie's music has sold. "Rubberband" would probably kill his momentum even further and miss the top 40. (Of course, Warner still released a third single from Jana Kramer even though it missed the top 40.) Charlie's career has reminded me of the Henningsens thus far. Radio really loved both of these acts and their debut singles were able to go top 20 due to the hype from their radio tours, but the low sales kept their second singles from going very far. I think it'd be best for Charlie to take a break and come back with new music in a few months. Disappointing but I can't say I'm too surprised by how this song has turned out.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 28, 2014 16:54:34 GMT -5
Charlie's chart runs are similar to another former Warner artist The Farm.
"Could It Be" peak #14 "Home Sweet Home" #18 (mediabase)
"Want Me Too" #32 "Be Grateful" #37
The Farm's singles lasted slightly longer and Charlie's singles went a little higher. But Jana got a chance for a third single and it killed any momentum she had. The Farm were working on a follow up and were dropped. It will be interesting to see how they approach Charlie in the near future. Perhaps they focus their attention on Brett and Dan + Shay right now and let Charlie lay low in anticipation for a lead single..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 17:01:59 GMT -5
I just listened to "Rubberband" and I gotta say there is no way that song will be a hit. The guitars are nice, but it's just so laid out and boring. As churchchoir stated, a third single will destroy his momentum. I'm sure they'll release another one anyways, but it won't be going anywhere. Well, that's your opinion and I couldn't disagree more. If "Rubberband" were to be released and not be a hit, it wouldn't be for lack of quality. It would simply be for lack of momentum and an over-crowded chart. Charlie's music has been critically acclaimed both for its quality and radio-friendliness. And radio really likes him--he was voted as one of the 5 performers for the CRS New Faces show less than 2 months ago, and the other 4 artists (Tyler Farr, Thomas Rhett, Brett Eldredge, and Cassadee Pope) have all had a lot more commercial success than Charlie. Warner Bros. also really likes Charlie. I'm sure they're disappointed with how his singles have done so far but--and even though I have some doubts about a possible 3rd single release--it wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried another song.
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Post by layne on Apr 28, 2014 18:52:56 GMT -5
I really would like for Charlie to break out. I love his Album but IMO he needs a single that will stand out and create a buzz. I love the song Rubberband and thought it should have been the 2nd single. It has a very different sound and I think Charlie needs something to get people talking and or buying. Tyler Farr didn't have any success with sales or radio play until his 3rd single and it took a song "redneck crazy" that was completely different than any thing else that was on radio to get him on the map.
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Post by someguy on Apr 28, 2014 19:18:14 GMT -5
It's unfortunate to see this song stall out. I imagine that it will be removed when tonight's chart is released. I'm of two minds - on the one hand, I agree that a flop of a third single wouldn't be good for Charlie's momentum, but on the other hand, I don't think that he has seen enough success to warrant anticipation for a new lead single. Since the material on his debut album is fairly strong, I actually think it makes sense to try for one one more single. It might peak below the top 40, true, but I also don't think Charlie has very much to lose at this point, either.
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Post by phil1996 on Apr 28, 2014 19:18:54 GMT -5
"Rubberband" is an absolute no-brainer to be released now. Would be idiotic to not release it. Could be his break-out song.
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