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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:40:09 GMT -5
Sabre14 and rsmatto, I agree with you that labels essentially just want some kind of a #1 unless it's a case where a record is on the line, but when we are talking about a two-week Billboard #1 for a big star like Keith Urban vs. a single week at #1 for both Keith and C-list act Little Big Town, it seems Capitol would prefer to get both songs to #1 on Billboard. I definitely don't see why they would particularly favor two weeks at #1 for Keith Urban's song. Perhaps they really don't care about Billboard and are just trying to get Little Big Town to #1 on Mediabase because this is less expensive than working the Billboard panel and shooting for a higher audience impression total. I do also agree with sabre14 that "Day Drinking" probably should have peaked below #1 altogether. This sounds like a song country radio would love but the numbers just don't show an overwhelming about of listener passion and I doubt this single is going to leave much of an impact on country radio, leave LBT with much momentum, or get much recurrent airplay a month or two from now. I'd say LBT and Capitol should be glad just to get the Mediabase-only #1.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:50:41 GMT -5
Sabre14 and rsmatto, I agree with you that labels essentially just want some kind of a #1 unless it's a case where a record is on the line, but when we are talking about a two-week Billboard #1 for a big star like Keith Urban vs. a single week at #1 for both Keith and C-list act Little Big Town, it seems Capitol would prefer to get both songs to #1 on Billboard. I definitely don't see why they would particularly favor two weeks at #1 for Keith Urban's song. Perhaps they really don't care about Billboard and are just trying to get Little Big Town to #1 on Mediabase because this is less expensive than working the Billboard panel and shooting for a higher audience impression total. I do also agree with sabre14 that "Day Drinking" probably should have peaked below #1 altogether. This sounds like a song country radio would love but the numbers just don't show an overwhelming about of listener passion and I doubt this single is going to leave much of an impact on country radio, leave LBT with much momentum, or get much recurrent airplay a month or two from now. I'd say LBT and Capitol should be glad just to get the Mediabase-only #1. I agree with sabre14's last post--he mentioned that Capitol could be simply trying to make sure Keith gets a #1 on at least 1 of the charts. There's no guarantee that SIMC will be able to hold at #1 on both MB and BB through all of next week. I do think Keith will get the MB #1 on Sunday the 30th, and a 2nd week at #1 on BB on Monday the 1st, but what if SIMC started faltering instead? What if Maddie & Tae have a huge Thanksgiving week and overtake Keith on MB just before his #1 were to become official? So that's why I think this week's charts are going the way that they are. I don't think Capitol is actually trying to get LBT to #1 on Billboard. Over the last 4 days on MB, LBT is up about 1.3 million in audience and nearly 230 spins, whereas Keith is up about 900k in audience and only 47 spins. I think that, if they were really trying to get LBT to #1 on both charts, "Day Drinking" would be up closer to 1.8 mil for the week and SIMC maybe up only 500k or less. So I think what's happening on MB this week is going exactly according to Capitol's plan, for both songs.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 21, 2014 18:34:48 GMT -5
Sabre14 and rsmatto, I agree with you that labels essentially just want some kind of a #1 unless it's a case where a record is on the line, but when we are talking about a two-week Billboard #1 for a big star like Keith Urban vs. a single week at #1 for both Keith and C-list act Little Big Town, it seems Capitol would prefer to get both songs to #1 on Billboard. I definitely don't see why they would particularly favor two weeks at #1 for Keith Urban's song. Perhaps they really don't care about Billboard and are just trying to get Little Big Town to #1 on Mediabase because this is less expensive than working the Billboard panel and shooting for a higher audience impression total. I do also agree with sabre14 that "Day Drinking" probably should have peaked below #1 altogether. This sounds like a song country radio would love but the numbers just don't show an overwhelming about of listener passion and I doubt this single is going to leave much of an impact on country radio, leave LBT with much momentum, or get much recurrent airplay a month or two from now. I'd say LBT and Capitol should be glad just to get the Mediabase-only #1. I find it hard to believe a band that wins vocalist and other category awards could EVER be considered "C-list." They're far from "C-list." Superstars? Not really. But not C-list.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 0:27:56 GMT -5
I think you may be right, sabre14, rsmatto, and jhomes87, about Capitol trying to split the charts this week. I did see a "Power up for #1" ad for Keith Urban's song in CAT today, which took me by surprise. I just hadn't seen Maddie & Tae as a big threat to Keith Urban next week, especially since their song has tumbled out of the top 100 on the iTunes all-genre chart and they're a brand new act going up against an A-list star. But whatever the reason, Capitol appears to be trying to max out spins for LBT and audience for Keith this week, so I think my prediction was wrong here and you three were right. Regarding whether LBT is a "C-lister" or not, I think this is such a subjective term that it can really be defined to mean something different depending on the context in which it's used. I was referring to LBT's radio success. They've been around since 2002 and have only had one #1 single on Billboard and two on Mediabase. I'll be one of the last ones to disregard LBT's critical acclaim and award recognition, but I was mainly trying to make the point that they're far from consistent hit-makers at radio. I'll be interested to see how "Girl Crush" performs. The song uses a pretty unique hook to approach a common theme and I think radio may either embrace or shy away from that. I'm not sure if the song is getting any airplay on The Highway or not, but it has been lingering in the top 1500 on iTunes. I could see a run similar to "Your Side of the Bed," though, which also had great sales that didn't translate to radio attention.
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Post by Marv on Nov 22, 2014 4:11:56 GMT -5
As Bob Kingsley pointed out last night on CT-40, LBT has won the top vocal group for THREE straight years at the CMA Awards, which makes them a heck of a lot more than a 'C-level' artist, since they're among the format's top two or three groups right now.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 22, 2014 14:04:41 GMT -5
As Bob Kingsley pointed out last night on CT-40, LBT has won the top vocal group for THREE straight years at the CMA Awards, which makes them a heck of a lot more than a 'C-level' artist, since they're among the format's top two or three groups right now. I'd say Little Big Town would probably be more in the B-list all things considered, because even though they are A-list in the industry in terms of recognition and acclaim, they still are not treated as A-list at radio.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 22, 2014 23:08:58 GMT -5
As Bob Kingsley pointed out last night on CT-40, LBT has won the top vocal group for THREE straight years at the CMA Awards, which makes them a heck of a lot more than a 'C-level' artist, since they're among the format's top two or three groups right now. I'd say Little Big Town would probably be more in the B-list all things considered, because even though they are A-list in the industry in terms of recognition and acclaim, they still are not treated as A-list at radio. Which was my basic point. superstars or A list (two different levels), no. But clearly nod below b-list.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 23, 2014 14:47:35 GMT -5
Even after those C.M.A. wins, Little Big Town DID falter with Sober and Your Side Of The Bed.
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Post by LBTrocks on Nov 24, 2014 13:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by rbundy1987 on Nov 24, 2014 13:30:08 GMT -5
YES, for Mediabase, but I am going with them peaking at #2 for Billboard and Keith Urban will be #1 on this afternoon's chart highlights with "Somewhere In My Car". Still congrats to LBT on making #1 with "Day Drinking", bring on "Girl Crush" for '15!!!!
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Post by surfy on Nov 24, 2014 23:30:48 GMT -5
YAY!!! I'm very happy for them!!!
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 25, 2014 11:47:52 GMT -5
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