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Post by Unhinged on Aug 24, 2015 9:22:16 GMT -5
^ General Artist News: To discuss news related directly to individual artists. Typically separated with one topic for album. There are two sub-forums, A-J and K-Z. Location of topics are based on the first letter of the artist's first name or first name of the band as it would appear in a CD library (i.e. remove "the").
So, no, thank you, people can post whatever they want that is related to Madonna and her music. Does not have to be era specific because if it was it would be outlined as such.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 24, 2015 11:28:46 GMT -5
Seriously, where have some people been? Any artist thread is for news/tidbits about the act, regarddless of whether it's related to the act's current album.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 24, 2015 13:11:50 GMT -5
so there's gossip out there that a certain diva's new man said she has a bigger range than madonna. so tired that everyone has to find reasons why their fave is "better" than madonna. why does poor m. get dragged into EVERYTHING? And please put the whole vocal range thing to bed. Axl Rose has a bigger vocal range than any pulse diva, so go listen to him if that's so important to you. James Packer didn't exactly lie though, did he? He's allowed to speak the truth, which is no less inaccurate than saying Madonna has more Dance/Club #1s. Just be glad that no one posted that quote in this thread. Oh...and as for Axl having a bigger vocal range than all the divas, I know the article to which you refer and it's technically inaccurate in quite a few places, especially with that particular example. In factual news: glad to see Pitchfork recognize those songs. Borderline is still my all time favorite Madonna song so I personally believe it should be higher but whatever. Also, what are the US sales for this criminally undervalued piece of work. I decided that I really like Wash All Over Me lyrically but whatever happened with the production drags it down a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 13:32:07 GMT -5
No he didn't lie but it was an awkward compliment; it would be like JAY-Z saying Beyonce can dance unlike Mariah. And then for Jim to rank Mimi with the 2 greatest voices of the 20th century?
To answer my own question, M gets dragged into everything because she is the BOSS.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 24, 2015 13:47:46 GMT -5
Well, there is a reason why the greatest voice of all time collaborated with her...not to mention all of her accolades for THAT voice, if you are wondering why she was ranked with those singers, but...I digress. I'd still like to know what the US sales are for this album currently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 13:55:18 GMT -5
The greatest voice blew her away on that collabo. Not even a fair fight. Mimi is an exceptional contemporary singer-songwriter with a range beyond her peers' but her bf saying she ranks alongside Streisand and Whitney vocally does not make it so. Whitney burned herself out but if you go to a Streisand concert, then you can ask yourself if Mimi will be singing like that at 70. There's so much more to singing than whistle notes...Streisand's breath control alone puts her in a league of her own.
Yes we digress, let's get back to the greatest singer-songwriter-entertainer...
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Post by Leigh on Aug 24, 2015 14:10:56 GMT -5
More acclaim. :) Madonna has three entries on Pitchfork's 200 Best Songs of the 1980s: 17. Madonna, “Into the Groove” (1985)With two hit albums, Like a Virgin rising in the charts, and one wild MTV wedding cake performance behind her, Madonna’s career was in a very sweet spot in 1985. So it’s no wonder the It Girl would make moves in Hollywood, starring in Susan Seidelman’s Desperately Seeking Susan. It’s there, in the closing credits of the movie, that a demo version of "Into the Groove" was not just heard, but also essentially released. "Music can be such a revelation," preaches Madonna on "Into the Groove", yet again making the dance floor a place for physical and emotional freedom. Playing shy, she bounces between earnestly begging for company and aggressively making her partner dance right to win her affection. While songs like "Borderline" and "Dress You Up" were successful dance-pop tracks, nothing Madonna had put out was as club-appropriate as "Into the Groove". Penned by Madonna and songwriter Steve Bray, "Into the Groove" was initially intended for producer Mark Kamins. But Madonna thought it would suit her new movie well, much to the chagrin of Kamins. The fact that Madonna would give the song such an unconventional debut shows how strong her popularity was at the time and how big of a hit the song really is. With filming finishing right before Like a Virgin was out, Desperately Seeking Susan swiftly became a Madonna vehicle before its release. Ratings were lowered specifically to accommodate the star’s teen fanbase and lead Rosanna Arquette was seen as a supporting actress in Madge’s shadow. The unpolished demo didn’t even land on the film’s soundtrack and was only available as the B-side to "Angel" in the U.S., but it’s still regarded as one of Madonna’s best dance tracks. —Hazel Cills 50. Madonna, “Like a Prayer” (1989)Madonna filed for divorce from Sean Penn two months before she released "Like a Prayer", the title track to the 1989 album that would cement her as a serious songwriter and an unstoppable cultural force as she entered her thirties. In anticipation of her fourth album, Madonna would grace the covers of Interview, Rolling Stone, and Spin. Like a Prayer was her most visible album to date, and also her darkest. "This is reality, and reality sucks," Madonna said in her Interview cover story. She was describing her initial vision for the "Like a Prayer" video, which was apparently even more brutal than the one that scandalized the Vatican, but the statement undercuts the whole song, too. Written toward the end of an abusive marriage, "Like a Prayer" sees Madonna assume a pose of surrender. Its gospel triumph comes only from its embrace of absolute darkness—"everyone must stand alone," she sings into the emptiness. Then she’s falling from the sky, calling to God, or really just any power that will listen. She’s singing from her own rock bottom, waiting for someone—anyone—to carry her back up to the top. —Sasha Geffen 106. Madonna, “Borderline” (1984)Released in 1983, "Borderline" is one of the first laid bricks in the cathedral of Madonna’s mythology, four minutes of emotional helium that became her first Top 10 hit on the heels of an iconic music video. In the clip, Madonna closes the gap between the club kid she was and the glamorous star she’d become as she plays her two beaux—a Latino tough boy and a snobby British photographer—off each other. Ironically, while lyrics refer to the gnawing desolation one might feel while navigating a relationship in which they don’t have any power, Madonna has total control in the video. She makes the tough boy miss his shot at the pool table by simply standing in the doorway; she spray paints the photographer’s car, causing him to flip out. She takes the energy from the song—a bubblegum instrumental given weight by her legible vocal performance—and uses it to dispel all the lingering demons from that bad relationship. There’s so much charisma, it’s easy to see why this was the song that catapulted her toward being the biggest pop star in the world. —Jeremy Gordon Thanks for sharing HG - Borderline should definitely be higher up that list!
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Post by norbpeti on Aug 24, 2015 15:01:21 GMT -5
^ General Artist News: To discuss news related directly to individual artists. Typically separated with one topic for album. There are two sub-forums, A-J and K-Z. Location of topics are based on the first letter of the artist's first name or first name of the band as it would appear in a CD library (i.e. remove "the"). So, no, thank you, people can post whatever they want that is related to Madonna and her music. Does not have to be era specific because if it was it would be outlined as such. I know the difference between general artist discussion and Rebel Heart era Thank you. Why on earth this topic called " Madonna : Rebel Heart Era " If you talk about EVERYTHING lol No need dragging anyone UP N DOWN I'm just simply asking a question.
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Post by Leigh on Aug 24, 2015 15:07:34 GMT -5
Hey norbpeti - It's just generally how the threads work in the Artist area of the forum. Artists will typically have one thread open at a time and the era/album name in the title references the timespan of the thread rather than dictating the content within that thread. So expect to see any Madonna news that crops up during the Rebel Heart era to be posted and discussed in here.
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Post by norbpeti on Aug 24, 2015 16:52:10 GMT -5
Thank You
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 24, 2015 20:11:17 GMT -5
The Queen's trainer was on GMA this morning. Of course, they were lauding her body and fitness. ALWAYS fit, ALWAYS healthy. La Ciccone!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 24, 2015 20:33:39 GMT -5
No problem, Leigh. "Borderline" is an undisputed classic, no doubt- I'd argue that some others should have appeared (i.e. "Live to Tell")- but, nothing wrong with any list that adds even more acclaim to Her Madgesty's catalog. :)
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 24, 2015 21:00:34 GMT -5
#OnThisDay August 24, 1984 madonna's Lucky Star debuted on the billboard Hot100 peaked #4 and #1 on Dance Club Song Greatest female artist to have ever lived!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 24, 2015 23:52:29 GMT -5
No problem, Leigh. "Borderline" is an undisputed classic, no doubt- I'd argue that some others should have appeared (i.e. "Live to Tell")- but, nothing wrong with any list that adds even more acclaim to Her Madgesty's catalog. :) Live To Tell is an underrated one, imo. It gets plenty of recurrent airplay, but I think it's overshadowed by the other songs from that era. Is LTT an iconic Madonna song? Would make a good poll.
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Post by seaguy27 on Aug 25, 2015 0:10:04 GMT -5
I know I may piss some people off but I believe Borderline is so overrated!! I know it is a good song but it is one of my least favorite Madonna singles from the 80s.
Live To Tell should have been on that list for sure!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 25, 2015 0:28:52 GMT -5
I know I may piss some people off but I believe Borderline is so overrated!! I know it is a good song but it is one of my least favorite Madonna singles from the 80s. Live To Tell should have been on that list for sure! Don't piss me off!! Borderline has more identity. Simple as that. It encapsulates everything about the 80's with just its chord structure. Stay pissy. Live To Tell tho is probably one of the greatest transitions from one era to the next that any artist has ever achieved tho. Immature to mature. And done so flawlessly.
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Post by Leigh on Aug 25, 2015 7:08:43 GMT -5
I have a personal connection to Borderline - for me it represents the great relationship I had with my oldest sister when I was a really young child and she was a teenager playing The Immaculate Collection VHS over and over. It must have been her favourite at the time and both Borderline and Lucky Star just instantly take me back and fill me the warmest feelings of nostalgia; funny how music can transport you back in time so instantly.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 25, 2015 7:40:14 GMT -5
The Immaculate Collection itself really captures the spirit, the essence, etc., of the 1983-1990 period. Such a soundtrack and definer of the times (the music, videos and performances).
"Live to Tell" does get decent recurrent play, but it's usually just outside her top 10 most-played classics. It's been firmly No. 2 on my Madonna list- that point after the second chorus, where the music stops and builds back up to "If I ran away..." Lawdy, the goosebumps.
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2015 8:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by August on Aug 25, 2015 8:02:53 GMT -5
I never got the crazy love for "Live to Tell". I like the song, but was never a favorite of mine. In terms of her ballads, my hands down favorite is "Oh Father." In terms of her other ballads my next top ones are:
-You'll See -Power of Good-bye -Rain -I'll Remember -Take a Bow
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2015 8:08:36 GMT -5
I love Love Don't Live Here Anymore Rain Take a Bow I Want You
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2015 8:28:04 GMT -5
#OnThisDay August 25, 1987 madonna's Causing A Commotion is released peaked #2 in USA, #4 UK, #1 US Dance Club Songs. Causing a Commotion was inspired by Madonna‘s relationship with her husband, Sean Penn.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 25, 2015 8:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 25, 2015 8:41:30 GMT -5
Thanks. :)
So that's 425 charted weeks, between the initial run of 141 weeks on the BB 200 and 284 in the catalog top 50. Outside of Tapestry, I don't think there's a female album that's enjoyed such a catalog top 50 run.
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 25, 2015 8:51:20 GMT -5
TIC is such a classic. It will NEVER get old, and I literally can hear myself talking as a 67 year old man to a bunch of teenagers trying to convince them that music will never get better than those songs.
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 25, 2015 8:55:35 GMT -5
I have a personal connection to Borderline - for me it represents the great relationship I had with my oldest sister when I was a really young child and she was a teenager playing The Immaculate Collection VHS over and over. It must have been her favourite at the time and both Borderline and Lucky Star just instantly take me back and fill me the warmest feelings of nostalgia; funny how music can transport you back in time so instantly. Yes! Music can be such a revelation...
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Post by August on Aug 25, 2015 9:00:33 GMT -5
#OnThisDay August 25, 1987 madonna's Causing A Commotion is released peaked #2 in USA, #4 UK, #1 US Dance Club Songs. Causing a Commotion was inspired by Madonna‘s relationship with her husband, Sean Penn. I remember being in marching band (bass clarinet) and my friend Laurie (alto sax) and I were obsessed with the charts. We had such a debate about if "Causing a Commotion" would go to #1. It was stuck at #2 for three weeks behind "Bad" by Michael Jackson and one other song. I was insistent it would go to #1 and she thought for sure it wouldn't. She was right and gloated about it incessantly. Then again, she was also obsessed with the Out of the Blue album by Debbie Gibson.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 25, 2015 9:10:35 GMT -5
^It was just a foolish beat of your heart that you thought CAC would go to #1!
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 25, 2015 9:32:54 GMT -5
#OnThisDay August 25, 1987 madonna's Causing A Commotion is released peaked #2 in USA, #4 UK, #1 US Dance Club Songs. Causing a Commotion was inspired by Madonna‘s relationship with her husband, Sean Penn. I remember being in marching band (bass clarinet) and my friend Laurie (alto sax) and I were obsessed with the charts. We had such a debate about if "Causing a Commotion" would go to #1. It was stuck at #2 for three weeks behind "Bad" by Michael Jackson and one other song. I was insistent it would go to #1 and she thought for sure it wouldn't. She was right and gloated about it incessantly. Then again, she was also obsessed with the Out of the Blue album by Debbie Gibson. The other song was "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tiffany. :)
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2015 10:59:09 GMT -5
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