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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 28, 2014 15:34:30 GMT -5
"Cry." and "Camouflage" are just stunning. I love how in "Cry." she ups the intensity on the 2nd verse; the song would have been slightly more limp had she kept the 2nd verse the same as the 1st verse, but she really builds momentum in the song by doing some blood-letting there. Genius. "Camouflage" just has to be one of the best, most personal vocals she has ever laid down. Holy sh*t. That 2nd verse slays my life, and the ad-libs and varying vocal parts in the last 1/3 of the song are epic. It's made up.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Jun 28, 2014 16:50:42 GMT -5
That remix I posted gets really good right at the 0:59 mark if yall wanna check it out ; ) I like it! I'd really be in heaven if David Morales and Eric Kupper remixed this. I'd also love an old school 12" version. Wishful thinking...I know.
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Post by Jay D83 on Jun 29, 2014 12:13:06 GMT -5
SUPERNATURAL is my new FOR THE RECORD and STAY THE NIGHT.
Gimme life!
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Post by die Lotterie on Jun 29, 2014 12:27:48 GMT -5
Are we ever going to get the WMA performance? lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 12:28:21 GMT -5
So many great mash-ups on YouTube account with the "You Don't Know What To Do"/"Never Stop" remix mash-up. There's another that mashes up "You're Mine" with Alexander O'Neal's "Hearsay".
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Post by MiniMusic on Jun 29, 2014 12:37:27 GMT -5
"For the Record" would have made for a great winter single.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 13:11:40 GMT -5
I dunno I haven't listened to E=MC2 in over a year now and "For The Record" even much longer than that.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jun 29, 2014 14:01:08 GMT -5
Nick hosting iheartradio festival. Mariah with a new album out and not participating. Neither mentioning the other on twitter. No wedding ring.
Me thinks it's over and that's a big part of her not promoting her album.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5
I just hope if its over and I really have no stake in their own personal relationship outside of Mariah, I just wish they do it amicably, thank the lawd for those children and not engage in the celeb slinging mud for publicity shit I hate. I know Mariah is above that she will make slick/shady comments when asked, but her twitter, social media sites are strictly professional and she doesn't do the whole lets talk nasty about other people. I just hope Nick in his quest to be on her level of fame doesnt do the cheap, tacky thing again.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jun 29, 2014 14:08:50 GMT -5
No wedding ring??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 14:11:02 GMT -5
She has been seen a million times without a wedding ring since 08'. I don't really care about their marriage one way or other since it doesnt contribute to music or shade or personal gratification but yeah I have seen her in pictures w/out it many times.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Jun 29, 2014 14:12:20 GMT -5
Maybe he got mad upon hearing THIRSTY....
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jun 29, 2014 15:49:50 GMT -5
She hasn't been photographed with her ring for a couple months now, I don't think. If she ever was before, it was sporadically.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jun 29, 2014 16:29:40 GMT -5
Yeah...no doubt in my mind now that this is my favorite Mariah album. I want to play it from start to finish every day.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Jun 29, 2014 17:47:25 GMT -5
Any chances of a BET awards appearance?
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Jun 29, 2014 22:19:40 GMT -5
Nick hosting iheartradio festival. Mariah with a new album out and not participating. Neither mentioning the other on twitter. No wedding ring. Me thinks it's over and that's a big part of her not promoting her album. I didn't quite follow her in April, did they renew their vow this year? Or any related IG/Tweet?
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jun 30, 2014 5:23:39 GMT -5
Nick hosting iheartradio festival. Mariah with a new album out and not participating. Neither mentioning the other on twitter. No wedding ring. Me thinks it's over and that's a big part of her not promoting her album. I didn't quite follow her in April, did they renew their vow this year? Or any related IG/Tweet? That was another thing: he talked about it and said that he had stuff planned (he was on Kelly and Michael) and no news ever surfaced. So, I'd say no. No pics or tweets from them about it.
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Jun 30, 2014 8:19:55 GMT -5
I really hate to say this but...she's "sacrificed" E=MC2 for her marriage...and now again... for a divorce?
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 30, 2014 9:45:23 GMT -5
I really hate to say this but...she's "sacrificed" E=MC2 for her marriage...and now again... for a divorce? I was thinking the exact same thing (except I don't think this time it's as frustrating because E=MC^2 was far more commercial and thus more of a missed opportunity than MIAM)
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Post by mrsillmatic on Jun 30, 2014 10:16:45 GMT -5
She has been seen a million times without a wedding ring since 08'. I don't really care about their marriage one way or other since it doesnt contribute to music or shade or personal gratification but yeah I have seen her in pictures w/out it many times. She has never taking off her wedding band. It's actually more important then engagement ring. Check all the new picture her wedding band is on.
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Post by mrsillmatic on Jun 30, 2014 10:17:47 GMT -5
I didn't quite follow her in April, did they renew their vow this year? Or any related IG/Tweet? That was another thing: he talked about it and said that he had stuff planned (he was on Kelly and Michael) and no news ever surfaced. So, I'd say no. No pics or tweets from them about it. But they did celebrated and she posted a pic.
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Post by mrsillmatic on Jun 30, 2014 10:28:27 GMT -5
Mariah will be on the new season of Real Husbands of Hollywood.
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Post by Caviar on Jun 30, 2014 11:23:41 GMT -5
I finally watched the concert at the Tokyo Dome from 1996! Jesus...it was so damn good! "I Don't Wanna Cry" :'( , "Without You", and "Forever" were soooooooo good. I also loved her cover and the faux leather outfits. I was praying she would do "I Am Free" but overall the best concert I've seen in a while.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jun 30, 2014 12:49:47 GMT -5
I finally watched the concert at the Tokyo Dome from 1996! Jesus...it was so damn good! "I Don't Wanna Cry" :'( , "Without You", and "Forever" were soooooooo good. I also loved her cover and the faux leather outfits. I was praying she would do "I Am Free" but overall the best concert I've seen in a while. My favorite concert from her. I bought it from amazon.uk and I put it on blast every time I clean my house and so many other times in between. I could watch it all day, everyday. Its just...everything, really.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Jun 30, 2014 14:24:53 GMT -5
Ugh, the Tokyo Concert from 1996 was aaaamazing!!! She was absolutely flawless!!!! Love love love love it!
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Post by 85la on Jun 30, 2014 14:58:07 GMT -5
With all this talk about whether she cares about commercial success, or the quality of the music, let's start with the importance of her sticking to the original release dates of the albums. Especially this latest one, which is her fourth album to be delayed in a row and came out over a year after the first announced release date. If she lacks that much confidence in her music and feels this perfectionist need to do endless tweaking, can she expect the public to be so eager and willing to buy a great product?
And if you want to bring commercial success into it, releasing it sooner than later would also definitely help, as album sales are still nose-diving year upon year. E=MC2 was a clear example, as she lost the Holiday '07 sales boost plus suffered the next year 13-15% overall market decline, automatically losing a few hundred thousand in sales.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 30, 2014 17:05:16 GMT -5
With all this talk about whether she cares about commercial success, or the quality of the music, let's start with the importance of her sticking to the original release dates of the albums. Especially this latest one, which is her fourth album to be delayed in a row and came out over a year after the first announced release date. If she lacks that much confidence in her music and feels this perfectionist need to do endless tweaking, can she expect the public to be so eager and willing to buy a great product? And if you want to bring commercial success into it, releasing it sooner than later would also definitely help, as album sales are still nose-diving year upon year. E=MC2 was a clear example, as she lost the Holiday '07 sales boost plus suffered the next year 13-15% overall market decline, automatically losing a few hundred thousand in sales. Apart from the things you mention (which are all valid), the delays also affect the promotion of the album. Look at how Ariana Grande's album isn't being released for almost 2 more months, but because the album is done the label is setting up great things for the pre-order, are already deciding the order of singles, etc. Meanwhile, the label kept spending money for Mariah's release dates, but the delays meant that by the time the album was released there was no more money in the promotional budget.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 17:36:47 GMT -5
Mariah screwed herself over with this release. It could've been so good if it was released May 2013 (when it was first supposed to have been). By the time it came out there was no more money or energy left to help it.
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Post by stevyy on Jul 1, 2014 10:42:55 GMT -5
MIAM truely remains my first to third fave MC album, tying Butterfly and Emotions. Nothing else comes close. Even 1 month later I'm obsessed.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2014 10:51:24 GMT -5
Mariah has been posted a lot of pics with her kids in the hot tub, but isn't in unsafe for kids that young to spend time in a hot tub?
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