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Post by dm2081 on Aug 9, 2014 16:18:42 GMT -5
I hope this song won't get lost in the mix with Kenny, FGL, Luke and Jason all storming up the charts. I'd like to see Cole get his first #1 on Billboard, and I feel this song is worthy of that feat. I'm surprised there hasn't been a video for it yet because that would help give it a boost in popularity. As for the next single, I think "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" is a safe bet too. I think that would be a strong song on the charts, and would continue his success. "HeyYa'll" and "Let Me See Ya Girl" and even "Swayin', would probably do well too.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 9, 2014 16:21:19 GMT -5
I hope this song won't get lost in the mix with Kenny, FGL, Luke and Jason all storming up the charts. I'd like to see Cole get his first #1 on Billboard, and I feel this song is worthy of that feat. I'm surprised there hasn't been a video for it yet because that would help give it a boost in popularity. As for the next single, I think "Ain't Worth The Whiskey" is a safe bet too. I think that would be a strong song on the charts, and would continue his success. "HeyYa'll" and "Let Me See Ya Girl" and even "Swayin', would probably do well too. IMO "A Dozen Roses and a 6-Pack" is both a sure fire hit and a great song. Speak of the devil. From his facebook: Want a little sneak peek at the #hopeyougetlonelytonight video? Coming on Tuesday! youtu.be/zJA_GRo7Bgk
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Post by Kentucky25 on Aug 10, 2014 11:35:47 GMT -5
I agree with above posters that "A Dozen Roses & A Six Pack" is the standout track on the album and I expect him to release it next and start moving into a new album cycle.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 10, 2014 14:18:08 GMT -5
I tried to give his album a chance and only it made it halfway through before I had to give up. This was the only tune I genuinely liked, and "Chillin' It" remains decent (though it took a long time to grow on me and I like it mostly because it gets unwillingly stuck in my head). The other songs I heard I was not a fan of at all (Hey Y'all, Let Me See Ya Girl, Swayin'), or in the case of "Ain't Worth the Whiskey," it felt like a song that Jason Aldean would've done, and his version would've been a whole lot better. Looks like I'll have to go back and try "A Dozen Roses & A Six Pack," though.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 10, 2014 14:23:50 GMT -5
I tried to give his album a chance and only it made it halfway through before I had to give up. This was the only tune I genuinely liked, and "Chillin' It" remains decent (though it took a long time to grow on me and I like it mostly because it gets unwillingly stuck in my head). The other songs I heard I was not a fan of at all (Hey Y'all, Let Me See Ya Girl, Swayin'), or in the case of "Ain't Worth the Whiskey," it felt like a song that Jason Aldean would've done, and his version would've been a whole lot better. Looks like I'll have to go back and try "A Dozen Roses & A Six Pack," though. Yeah, I found the album to be so painfully average and boring (aside from this, "Chillin' It", "Ain't Worth the Whiskey" and ADRAA6P). Also, ditto on the Aldean point, hadn't noticed that before but I completely agree. This one has had a very low burn rate with me. My local station's been playing it a ton but I'm not even close to sick of it yet.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 11, 2014 0:42:16 GMT -5
The only complaint I have with this song is the amateurish production. I have no idea how they programmed the drum machine to make that machine gun noise about five seconds in, and for the rest of the song, I can't hear much of anything except for guitar and the hi-hat setting on the drum machine. I'm almost 100% certain there isn't even a bass line (real or synth), which is very strange. (How did Michael Carter even get the production job anyway?)
But a well-written song with bad production is still a well-written song, and Cole sells it pretty well.
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Post by gurustu on Aug 12, 2014 15:11:44 GMT -5
I don't understand how some of you can even say that this IS NOT Bro-Country? It's got Bro-Country written ALL OVER IT! Is it better than "Chillin' It"? Lawd yes, anything is better than that crap just about, but this still falls along the lines of Luke Bryan and Florida Georgia Line (even written by FGL & Cole), the forefathers of Bro! I for one am not impressed at all. I am happy that Cole is finding success as a writer & now an artist, but ready for this style of country to leave once & for all. If that means that artists like FGL & Cole have to depart with along with it than so be it. Sorry for being harsh, just stating my opinion (that's what this forum is for) and we ALL have differences of opinions, so take it for what it's worth
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 30, 2014 22:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 30, 2014 23:08:44 GMT -5
The video came out a while ago, and I was pretty unimpressed. It's very basic and there's not much going on in it at all. Anyways, it feels to me like this song has been on the charts forever, but he's actually been charting pretty well for a rookie. It's up to #5 on Mediabase, and there's a small chance it could get to #4 on Billboard by Monday. Just not sure if it will be able to beat "Dirt" to #1 (or "Roller Coaster", those two songs keep flip flopping on Mediabase). They might have to go for a major push after Dustin and Kenny get their weeks in, or else Cole might miss out on another chance at #1 on Billboard.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 30, 2014 23:45:23 GMT -5
The video came out a while ago, and I was pretty unimpressed. It's very basic and there's not much going on in it at all. Anyways, it feels to me like this song has been on the charts forever, but he's actually been charting pretty well for a rookie. It's up to #5 on Mediabase, and there's a small chance it could get to #4 on Billboard by Monday. Just not sure if it will be able to beat "Dirt" to #1 (or "Roller Coaster", those two songs keep flip flopping on Mediabase). They might have to go for a major push after Dustin and Kenny get their weeks in, or else Cole might miss out on another chance at #1 on Billboard. Not that I disagree with you because I too didn't really like the video either (though I'm not a huge fan of the song either). But I'm curious of what you were expecting? Most videos, especially newer artists have music videos like this. The artists just singing and fans can get a feel for the artists look. I love creative videos as much as anyone but I've come to expect the safe and simple approach done to music videos now and days. Looking at the current singles chart, I can only count on one hand what I deem to be creative and clever original videos ("River Bank", "Leave The Night On", "Rum",) and I think I'm being generous calling those clever or original, though the water skiing squirrel got me chuckling. I guess what I'm saying is I've gotten so used to basic videos that I don't care as much if it is boring and unimpressive like "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" anymore. By the way I was only going to have a short response and I went way longer than I intended. I was told the video came out a couple weeks ago, but it's only been on YouTube for a little over a week.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 30, 2014 23:55:23 GMT -5
The video came out a while ago, and I was pretty unimpressed. It's very basic and there's not much going on in it at all. Anyways, it feels to me like this song has been on the charts forever, but he's actually been charting pretty well for a rookie. It's up to #5 on Mediabase, and there's a small chance it could get to #4 on Billboard by Monday. Just not sure if it will be able to beat "Dirt" to #1 (or "Roller Coaster", those two songs keep flip flopping on Mediabase). They might have to go for a major push after Dustin and Kenny get their weeks in, or else Cole might miss out on another chance at #1 on Billboard. Not that I disagree with you because I too didn't really like the video either (though I'm not a huge fan of the song either). But I'm curious of what you were expecting? Most videos, especially newer artists have music videos like this. The artists just singing and fans can get a feel for the artists look. I love creative videos as much as anyone but I've come to expect the safe and simple approach done to music videos now and days. Looking at the current singles chart, I can only count on one hand what I deem to be creative and clever original videos ("River Bank", "Leave The Night On", "Rum",) and I think I'm being generous calling those clever or original, though the water skiing squirrel got me chuckling. I guess what I'm saying is I've gotten so used to basic videos that I don't care as much if it is boring and unimpressive like "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" anymore. By the way I was only going to have a short response and I went way longer than I intended. I was told the video came out a couple weeks ago, but it's only been on YouTube for a little over a week. Not sure really what to expect I guess, just maybe something a little spicier/sexier and more to the story a little. But yeah, the song doesn't leave too much room to be inventive I guess. But you forgot about two unique videos: "Drunk on a Plane" and "Somethin' Bad". "Dirt" is actually a pretty good one too. I just wish they stepped more outside their comfort zone, like how "Yeah" looked. They used a different style at least to depict the typical video material.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 30, 2014 23:58:18 GMT -5
Not that I disagree with you because I too didn't really like the video either (though I'm not a huge fan of the song either). But I'm curious of what you were expecting? Most videos, especially newer artists have music videos like this. The artists just singing and fans can get a feel for the artists look. I love creative videos as much as anyone but I've come to expect the safe and simple approach done to music videos now and days. Looking at the current singles chart, I can only count on one hand what I deem to be creative and clever original videos ("River Bank", "Leave The Night On", "Rum",) and I think I'm being generous calling those clever or original, though the water skiing squirrel got me chuckling. I guess what I'm saying is I've gotten so used to basic videos that I don't care as much if it is boring and unimpressive like "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" anymore. By the way I was only going to have a short response and I went way longer than I intended. I was told the video came out a couple weeks ago, but it's only been on YouTube for a little over a week. Not sure really what to expect I guess, just maybe something a little spicier/sexier and more to the story a little. But yeah, the song doesn't leave too much room to be inventive I guess. But you forgot about two unique videos: "Drunk on a Plane" and "Somethin' Bad". "Dirt" is actually a pretty good one too. I just wish they stepped more outside their comfort zone, like how "Yeah" looked. They used a different style at least to depict the typical video material. "Yeah" is definitely a great video. That's by far my favorite this year. "Drunk On A Plane" I didn't mention because even though that's a great video, it's exactly what the song was about, so no creativity or originality was needed there. One of the few instances where the song made the video before it was made.
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 31, 2014 8:57:02 GMT -5
Hey, the video is much better than Chillin It. I didn't get sick watching his hand moments!
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Post by country374 on Aug 31, 2014 15:08:04 GMT -5
I don't think he is a very good singer. Very limited talent. Once the bro-country trend dies, I don't see much of a future for him as a performer.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Aug 31, 2014 16:10:30 GMT -5
I don't think he is a very good singer. Very limited talent. Once the bro-country trend dies, I don't see much of a future for him as a performer. Cole will have a future as an artist as long as Luke Bryan continues to let him open for him and props him up as an artist.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 14:54:44 GMT -5
After today's Mediabase chart update, it looks as if "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" will be a Mediabase-only #1. I'm predicting this weekend will be split #1s between "Where It's At" (MB) and "Roller Coaster" (BB), next weekend will be split between "Lonely Tonight" at #1 on MB and "Coaster" at #1 again on BB, and then Luke Bryan will claim his third and final week at #1 on Billboard and his single week at #1 on Mediabase two weeks from this weekend. That should place "Dirt" and "Burnin' It Down" in great positions for two weeks at #1 each with no Mediabase-only #1s during that time.
Lon Helton's Country Countdown USA co-host schedule is still a little off because Kenny Chesney took two weeks to co-host, but that won't change the way the #1s will work out. If the Mediabase chart followed his schedule, Dustin Lynch's single wouldn't peak for another week and Cole Swindell's for another two weeks, which is absurd since 'At" is already at almost 7900 spins on Mediabase and "Lonely" at 7600 and neither single seems a big enough hit to set an 8000-spin precedent on Mediabase. When FGL and/or Jason Aldean get multiple weeks at #1 the schedule should get back on track.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 15:05:56 GMT -5
After today's Mediabase chart update, it looks as if "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" will be a Mediabase-only #1. I'm predicting this weekend will be split #1s between "Where It's At" (MB) and "Roller Coaster" (BB), next weekend will be split between "Lonely Tonight" at #1 on MB and "Coaster" at #1 again on BB, and then Luke Bryan will claim his third and final week at #1 on Billboard and his single week at #1 on Mediabase two weeks from this weekend. That should place "Dirt" and "Burnin' It Down" in great positions for two weeks at #1 each with no Mediabase-only #1s during that time. Lon Helton's Country Countdown USA co-host schedule is still a little off because Kenny Chesney took two weeks to co-host, but that won't change the way the #1s will work out. If the Mediabase chart followed his schedule, Dustin Lynch's single wouldn't peak for another week and Cole Swindell's for another two weeks, which is absurd since 'At" is already at almost 7900 spins on Mediabase and "Lonely" at 7600 and neither single seems a big enough hit to set an 8000-spin precedent on Mediabase. When FGL and/or Jason Aldean get multiple weeks at #1 the schedule should get back on track.You might be right about some of your predictions, but I really hate to think about the future country singles chart as some sort of schedule. It may be that it's somewhat true, unfortunately, since labels do sort of have game plans for when their songs will be peaking, but I don't believe we've gotten to pre-programmed airplay yet (and hopefully we never do). Lon Helton's co-hosting schedule doesn't decide the charts, either (I'm not saying you were suggesting this, but just trying to clarify). The co-hosting schedule is set up a few weeks in advance based on how those artists' labels/management teams expect the chart to shake out. They're not really any different than some of us here. They look at airplay trends and try to forecast when their songs will hit #1. The countdown co-hosting schedule isn't really much different than when an artist does a radio special or a string of TV appearances when they have a new album releasing. It's just promo.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Sept 23, 2014 8:30:14 GMT -5
Still too early to say this will remain but for now, Cole is tracking at #1 for the upcoming Billboard issue. Again, way too early to say if this will be #1 for next Monday.
Country No.1 Cole Swindell Hope You Get Lonely Tonight +3305 Kenny Chesney Til It's Gone
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 24, 2014 9:05:20 GMT -5
I'm surprised Cole Swindell passed Luke Bryan. Who would have thought Cole would do that? Especially this close to the top?
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Post by winstonmurdock on Sept 24, 2014 10:48:22 GMT -5
Where can you access the daily Billboard chart? or Mediabase for that matter...even if you have to subscribe. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 18:55:54 GMT -5
I'm surprised Cole Swindell passed Luke Bryan. Who would have thought Cole would do that? Especially this close to the top? Indeed what happened this week was very strange. On Mediabase during the last BDS tracking week (from 9/15-9/22), "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" and "Roller Coaster" both gained about one and a half million audience impressions, with "Lonely" gaining just a tad more than "Roller Coaster," however "Coaster" ended up 5k ahead of "Lonely" by 9/22 in Mediabase audience. Shockingly, "Lonely" gained nearly three times the audience "Coaster" gained on Billboard during the BDS tracking week and jumped ahead to #2. "Lonely" was behind "Coaster" in audience on Mediabase Sunday but ahead in spins and points so it's at #2 on both charts this week. Warner Music Nashville must be pretty good at working the Billboard panel while just maintaining a close enough lead on Mediabase in points. I have to admit that I'd never have seen this scenario coming. It surprises me that the format's bigger star will have what may be the peak album of his career (certainly near the peak) yield one song that only got one week at #1 and another that missed #1 altogether. Jason Aldean has had his share of non-#1 singles, from songs that simply had awful timing like "My Kind Party" and "Tattoos on This Town" to songs that were too polarizing for country radio like "1994," but I'd hardly say "Night" or "Coaster" experienced bad timing on the charts. "Night" was a freak accident on Capitol Nashville's part where they pushed Luke's single ahead of "It Goes Like This" on Mediabase but didn't get there on Billboard and just decided to pull the single after achieving a Mediabase #1, and "Coaster" should have had no trouble competing with songs from two new artists. "When She Says Baby" had no trouble taking a third week from "Drink a Beer" at #1 on Billboard and blocking "Chillin' It" even though neither song was selling worse than "Baby" and of course Blake Shelton has never had any trouble getting to #1 and just about every recent single of his either did get multiple weeks at #1 or could have if WMN had decided not to play nice with the competition. My point here is that while Luke's still a radio A-lister it surprises me to an extent that he couldn't block a brand new artist with "Roller Coaster" especially considering the much bigger hits Capitol Nashville has defeated this year. I guess the two factors in play here were relatively low sales for "Coaster" (which I simply see as an indication that most fans have already bought the album) and the very high audience numbers the top 5 have been putting up lately, meaning a song not getting heavy promotion can start to flounder. "Lonely Tonight" is definitely going to #1 on both charts. How well Cole Swindell's next single does on the charts is anybody's guess, though. There are so many new artists vying for radio success that going even three singles deep into one album has become less popular even among B-listers. I could see a third single being at least as slow as Randy Houser's "Like a Cowboy" and possibly not ever taking off, but WMN almost has to put out a third single since they're trying to make Swindell into a big star and keep him relevant and it's still way too early to record/release new music.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 21:29:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised Cole Swindell passed Luke Bryan. Who would have thought Cole would do that? Especially this close to the top? Indeed what happened this week was very strange. On Mediabase during the last BDS tracking week (from 9/15-9/22), "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" and "Roller Coaster" both gained about one and a half million audience impressions, with "Lonely" gaining just a tad more than "Roller Coaster," however "Coaster" ended up 5k ahead of "Lonely" by 9/22 in Mediabase audience. Shockingly, "Lonely" gained nearly three times the audience "Coaster" gained on Billboard during the BDS tracking week and jumped ahead to #2. "Lonely" was behind "Coaster" in audience on Mediabase Sunday but ahead in spins and points so it's at #2 on both charts this week. Warner Music Nashville must be pretty good at working the Billboard panel while just maintaining a close enough lead on Mediabase in points. I'm not surprised at all. That's how the top of the chart has worked for the last couple of years--lots of starting and stopping, playing musical chairs, and allowing everybody to take a turn. Of course there are a few exceptions, but for the most part, songs that get into the top 5 all get to #1 these days. Are you thinking that "Roller Coaster" won't get to #1? I don't see why not. It obviously won't this week as they've ceded the week to Cole and WMN, but I fully expect Luke to be #1 on Sunday the 5th/Monday the 6th. It would've been pretty easy for Capitol Nashville to get 3-4 weeks at #1 here and I suspect that 5+ years ago they would have (and songs like "Where It's At" and "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" would've stopped at #2 or #3), but that's just not how it works at country radio anymore. Multiple weeks at #1 don't matter all that much in the scheme of digital sales whether you're talking single sales or album sales. As long as a song is still holding steady and putting up really high numbers, the sales stay consistent. It doesn't really matter if it's at #3 or #1. I mean just go back and look at the first post in this recently-bumped old thread that lists the #1 songs of the week at Radio & Records back in the 2000's and 90's. Nearly every one of those artists was a huge name and newer artists very rarely topped the chart. But today radio plays a lot of newer artists' singles all the way to the top, and the A-listers are lucky to get more than 1 week at #1. The industry has changed. Radio will go out of their way to help a label if they're doing a "#1 push". The labels invest a lot of money in new artists and they need those new artists to get big hits or they're never going to sell, so as a result we see potential multi-week #1 situations being divided up among 3-4 songs that are all hitting their 'peaks' in a 4-5 week window. Maybe 8-10 years ago, one song would've spent 5-6 weeks at #1 and the other artists/songs would've been content with a strong top 5 peak. Warner Music Nashville basically 'called' this week for themselves. If Capitol wanted to get Luke to #1 this week I'm sure they would have. Anyway, @daydrinker, I'm not sure that some of your other examples are the best. I wouldn't say that Aldean had bad timing with either "My Kinda Party" or "Tattoos On This Town". "My Kinda Party" went to #2 on Billboard but it was #1 on Mediabase over Christmas 2010, and "Tattoos On This Town" did get stuck at #2 for 6 weeks on Billboard over December 2011/January 2012, but that one was also a Mediabase #1. In many of these cases the labels have simply decided that the Mediabase #1 was good enough and they didn't feel the need to go the extra mile to get the Billboard #1 as well. I think Billboard is really out of touch with the country radio industry even though, again, I think their airplay chart's methodology is much better. Luke's "That's My Kind Of Night" could have probably taken one #1 week away from Thomas Rhett's "It Goes Like This" at Billboard, but I hardly think it's odd that it didn't happen that way. Look at all the #2 and #3 hits that artists like Kenny and Keith have had. I realize that Luke is THEE hottest artist at country radio right now, but artists like Kenny, Keith, and Tim have all been just as hot or hotter before. There's a reason virtually nobody has ever gotten 5 Billboard #1 hits from a single album. It's just really hard to do and there's only been a small handful of albums to produce 5 #1's on Mediabase as well. Luke is going to get 4 Billboard #1's from this album with the only exception being TMKON being the #2, but again, that was of course a #1 at Mediabase. I guess I just don't see how the situation right now with Cole and Luke is any different from the situation we've seen week in and week out for the last few years. Almost every week there are two songs (sometimes three) that potentially could be the #1 song, but what happens is that they wind up taking turns. It's not that Luke (the bigger name) couldn't keep Cole (the newbie) from getting to #1, it's that Luke and his team chose not to. They know it's important for newer artists to be able to claim #1 hits, and they know that there's still time to get "Roller Coaster" to #1 after Cole starts falling. Anyway, the daily radio updates seem to really show that Capitol is easing up on the reins here. 09/18: Luke -63 spins and -20k, Cole +27 spins and +273k 09/19: Luke +30 spins and +109k, Cole +29 spins and +322k 09/20: Luke +67 spins and +307k, Cole -70 spins and -7k 09/21: Luke -13 spins and +143k, Cole +67 spins and +393k 09/22: Luke +79 spins and +561k, Cole +3 spins and +467k 09/23: Luke -4 spins and +168k, Cole +38 spins and +227k 09/24: Luke +22 spins and +302k, Cole +126 spins and +763k The only real discrepancy is the 09/22 update which was for Sunday's airplay, and I suspect Luke got some sort of boost on a syndicated show (it wasn't Lon Helton's show though, that I know). Then on Monday we had a big "power up for #1" ad for Cole but nothing for Luke. Cole co-hosts Lon's countdown this coming weekend and Luke is on during the first weekend of October. My guess is that Capitol decided 2-3 weeks ago already that they would essentially 'hold off' on "Roller Coaster"'s peak until that 1st weekend of October, allowing Dustin and Cole their time in the spotlight and allowing for them to clear out. That still gives Luke at least 1 week at #1 before "Dirt" will be peaking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 23:15:14 GMT -5
Jhomes87, we may just agree to disagree on this, but I doubt that Capitol Nashville was playing nice here. As I noted in my previous post, "Roller Coaster" may just be struggling because it's gotten to such high levels of airplay and really isn't selling well. What reason do we have to believe that Capitol Nashville is intentionally letting up on promoting Luke Bryan's single? I don't see how the numbers imply that Capitol is intentionally easing up on the reins as opposed to the song simply slowing down at high levels of airplay, just as "Dirt" has. There's no reason why Republic Nashville would be lightening up on "Dirt" but that's still been slowing down. It actually seems that in the past Capitol Nashville has tried as hard as they can to block songs even on Mediabase ("This is How We Roll," "River Bank," "Meanwhile Back at Mama's"). Why would they suddenly decide to play nice here? You said that labels know it's important for artists to be able to claim #1 hits, but why does Capitol Nashville care if Cole Swindell gets to claim a #1 hit? I do realize that songs take turns at #1 on Mediabase and I had always predicted that Cole Swindell's single would reach #1 on Mediabase this Sunday, but this is totally extraordinary for a new artist to be able to jump ahead of an A-lister on the Billboard chart. It's not like "Lonely Tonight" is some big hit either. I think this may just be a case of both songs struggling due to low sales and high levels of airplay so the guy doing the big push gets to jump ahead.
I wasn't saying that "Roller Coaster" wouldn't go to #1. I'm sure it'll be #1 a week from Sunday and Monday. I'm just quite surprised that Capitol didn't get this two or three weeks at #1 on Billboard.
Regarding all those examples I used and my discussion of why Jason Aldean and Luke Bryan both haven't gotten a big string of hits, I recognize that this discussion doesn't pertain to "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" so I'll inbox you a little more on that, but my main points are: (1) Why Capitol Nashville would choose to play nice here when they seemingly haven't before? (2) How do the numbers support the idea that Capitol was "playing nice" any more than they support the idea that "Coaster" is struggling on its own? and (3) How often do labels "calling weeks for themselves" result in getting a Billboard #1? (Usually labels just try for a Mediabase #1 and get to #1 on Billboard if they have good timing, not when one of the format's biggest stars was ahead on Billboard the previous week.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 23:50:33 GMT -5
Jhomes87, we may just agree to disagree on this, but I doubt that Capitol Nashville was playing nice here. As I noted in my previous post, "Roller Coaster" may just be struggling because it's gotten to such high levels of airplay and really isn't selling well. What reason do we have to believe that Capitol Nashville is intentionally letting up on promoting Luke Bryan's single? I don't see how the numbers imply that Capitol is intentionally easing up on the reins as opposed to the song simply slowing down at high levels of airplay, just as "Dirt" has. There's no reason why Republic Nashville would be lightening up on "Dirt" but that's still been slowing down. It's not as if Luke ever got that far ahead of Cole on Billboard, though. But anyway, "Roller Coaster" had been absolutely flying along, so I don't see why now it would suddenly be struggling, and yet a much older song can suddenly kick it into high gear. I never said Capitol has a reason to play nice with Warner, but I still believe that's happening, and simply because they (Capitol) know they are still going to get to #1 no matter what, so why should it bother them all that much if Cole gets a #1 this week? It's not as if having a 2-week #1 song is all that different than having a #1 song for only 1 week. It's the #1 that counts. "Roller Coaster" is selling just fine for a 5th single. It's like you said--at this point, most people already have the album or the tracks that they wanted to buy. I'd say that Republic Nashville is holding off on aggressive promotion for "Dirt" as well. Why would they want to race ahead when Luke and Cole are clearly not done gaining? I'm not saying that Capitol is no longer promoting Luke's song, but it's just that they're not aggressively pushing it this week like Warner Bros. is with Cole. They know Cole and his team are going for #1 now, and I suspect that the Capitol promo team has made it known to radio people that they'll be going for #1 next week. I think it's as simple as that. I also don't see any evidence that Capitol has intentionally tried to keep other labels from #1 lately. I mean, sure, all labels want as many weeks at #1 as possible, but in most cases, they take turns. I think the thing with "Drunk On A Plane" keeping Brad and Tim from #1 was a bit of an exception. Both Brad and Tim had bigger gaps to make up than the #2 songs often do, and Capitol really wanted to cement DOAP's status as one of the very biggest hits of the summer. The other exception would of course be "Play It Again", but again, they had a chance for a rare 4-week #1 there and they took it. PIA was also about as massive as a country radio hit can be these days. "Roller Coaster" and "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" are both big hits in their own rights but they haven't flat-out dominated the charts like PIA did. The bottom line is, Capitol Nashville or any other label would love to be #1 for 6-7 weeks straight. But it's just not possible in this day and age with how radio and record labels cultivate 'relationships' (just a polite word for brown-nosing, if you ask me). If radio likes a song well enough to put it into the top 5, it almost always winds up at #1. The few rare exceptions are if the song has been out for too long or if it has a high burn rate (think "Aw Naw" from Chris Young). So I guess I'm not necessarily saying that Capitol is "letting" Cole get to #1 this week, but I think it's clear that, if they wanted to, they could push and have Luke gaining 120 spins a day like Cole did today. But they simply chose to avoid a battle and not to push, because they're very confident that they can get "Roller Coaster" to #1 on the 1st weekend of October.
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Post by winstonmurdock on Sept 25, 2014 12:39:42 GMT -5
Again, where can you access these daily updates that show Cole ahead of Luke? I can only access week ending charts. Are they subscription only?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 25, 2014 12:42:13 GMT -5
Again, where can you access these daily updates that show Cole ahead of Luke? I can only access week ending charts. Are they subscription only? All Access is free. All you have to do is sign up, which doesn't take that long. Then you'll have access to the daily rolling chart where Luke did manage to leap Cole as of this morning. :)
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 25, 2014 13:15:53 GMT -5
Again, where can you access these daily updates that show Cole ahead of Luke? I can only access week ending charts. Are they subscription only? You can also use this website which updates daily, and you won't have to sign up at all: kworb.net/radio/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 15:04:02 GMT -5
Well I have to admit I didn't really see today's update coming, especially considering the fact that Cole gained 126 spins and well over 700k in audience in yesterday's update. Today he still outdid Luke in audience (barely), but Luke had a big spin gain which enabled him to leapfrog Cole on the rolling MB chart. That I did not see coming.
I'm still going to stick with my prediction that Cole will top both charts this weekend, but today's update might suggest that Capitol could be planning a 'stealth' push (in which today's update would be the first 'taste' of it). I just think that WMN has made a clearer indication of their intent with Cole, whereas Capitol seemed to be playing it cool over the last couple of days.
In other words, I think that Luke could've just as easily gained 120+ spins and 700-800k in yesterday's update (like Cole did), but he didn't. I don't view that as "Roller Coaster" struggling; I view it as Cole's team "powering up" but Luke's team not.
Today both of their gains were just above 300k, but Luke had a huge spin jump whereas Cole lost 15 spins. I'll be curious to see tomorrow's update and whether Cole has another big spin gain in response to Luke's challenge today.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 27, 2014 11:20:29 GMT -5
How bizarre Luke loses spins today. Guess they needed to cinch it for Cole., which is good.
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