Lahey's Lucky Star
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Feb 19, 2014 22:15:14 GMT -5
Given the state of "pop" music today, it won't work. That's actually a good point. Even Taylor Swift had to stray from the country side of her album a bit to get to the top of the charts. If anything, all of her Pop singles from Red (save maybe "Everything Has Changed") were more Pop than anything. Hell, even Speak Now and Fearless had some slight Pop influences. With that, every country song serviced to Pop had at least some form of remix. "Cruise" had the addition of Nelly, while both Hunter Hayes singles had a so-called "pop mix".
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sarah86
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Post by sarah86 on Feb 20, 2014 2:25:04 GMT -5
Wow, so much dislike for Country here. I love all types of music, but sometimes I need a break from the superficial world of pop radio and turn on some good story telling music like country. I think everyone is forgetting the late 90's when Shania Twain had a few crossover hits "You're Still The One", "From This Moment On" and "That Don't Impress Me Much" off the top of my head. Faith Hill had one or two I believe and the Dixie Chicks did ok with "Wide Open Spaces".
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dajire4
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Post by dajire4 on Feb 21, 2014 14:40:48 GMT -5
Wow, so much dislike for Country here. I love all types of music, but sometimes I need a break from the superficial world of pop radio and turn on some good story telling music like country. I think everyone is forgetting the late 90's when Shania Twain had a few crossover hits "You're Still The One", "From This Moment On" and "That Don't Impress Me Much" off the top of my head. Faith Hill had one or two I believe and the Dixie Chicks did ok with "Wide Open Spaces". Not much of that in today's country radio tbh
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 21, 2014 15:21:05 GMT -5
Wow, so much dislike for Country here. I love all types of music, but sometimes I need a break from the superficial world of pop radio and turn on some good story telling music like country. I think everyone is forgetting the late 90's when Shania Twain had a few crossover hits "You're Still The One", "From This Moment On" and "That Don't Impress Me Much" off the top of my head. Faith Hill had one or two I believe and the Dixie Chicks did ok with "Wide Open Spaces". I think with Country is a little hit or miss. I'm not an expert (hey i'm spanish) but when i heard the country chart i think is filled of copycat songs with lot of success and little gems losing in the middle. Most male singers (wich with a few exceptions are the ones who dominate the charts) look all the same and the songs seems like you could change the singer without any effect (by the way i listened again I drive your truch this time paying attention to the lyrics and i have to recognize that is far from being that bad). Sometimes you look at the bottom of the chart and find songs like Ain't your mama or Staying worse than leaving and i really don't understand why they aren't more succesfull (of course that happen on the pop charts too). And there's the payola, i really like Taylor Swift Begin again but that climb to number one was really suspicious. I think there's a lot of talented country singers but mainstream seems pretty narrow, and even someone so hyped as Hunter Hayes had his trouble finding success. By the way i really miss the Dixie Chicks, not ready to make nice is one of the best come back songs ever, with powerful music and powerful lyrics. Anyway there are good country singers that are not crossover potential anyway, but a catchy song with little changes (sometimes even without changes if the singer didn't abuse the twang) can cross the pop paths. And i agree that country at least try to tell stories, sometimes one get bore of all the throwing hands in the air and having a party wich populate pop charts
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jebsib
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Post by jebsib on Feb 21, 2014 15:48:10 GMT -5
Everything is cyclical in pop music. So, yes country will come back, particularly with social media and mass media crossing genres like never before. All you need is the right star.
Country tends to come around to fill the gaps when the Big! New! Revolutionary! Pop! Eras take a break, and CHR is looking for less extreme fare. Usually at the beginnings of each decade, when they are desperately trying to guess what the next big decade-defining sound will be. Having said that, even in the last thirty five years, only Taylor Swift has been a sure thing with any CHR chart consistency.
Everyone harkens back to the Shania Twain Faith Hill glory days. You mean with their massive combined three top ten CHR hits?!!?
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jjose712
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 21, 2014 15:57:48 GMT -5
In fact with the exception of You're still the one, Shania's had less pop success than hot 100 success (From this moment on was way bigger on the hot 100 than on pop airplay). Breathe was massive on the hot 100 (i think it was number 2 for several weeks) but it only peaked at 8 on pop.
The biggest country hits on pop were more one hit wonders like Amazed, Achy, breacky heart or When she cries (well, it seems that when she cries wasn't a one hit wonder at all, because Restless heart had three pop hits)
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Post by emerald on Feb 21, 2014 16:00:38 GMT -5
Given the state of "pop" music today, it won't work. This is definitely true. I'd say Country would have a much better chance crossing over if the rhythmic-leaning CHRs didn't exist, or were moved to a different panel.
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 22, 2014 0:01:22 GMT -5
Country is trying so hard to be Pop now, why cross over? Half the time I can't tell what station I'm on to begin with anymore. Once the fiddle and steel was taken out of Country music, for the most part, the genre died. It's all just a mutt genre now. Not to mention that for a decade now there have been less than 5 solo women to get multiple top 10s back to back. Pop radio women dominate while on Country women are an endangered species very near extinct. I became a Country fan in glory days of the 90s. Now its just embarrassing for the most part.
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Post by Dvorak on Feb 22, 2014 15:38:52 GMT -5
A guaranteed CHR hit would "Chilln' It" by Cole Swindell if he brought in Nelly for a featured section.
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