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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 23:45:26 GMT -5
^Thanks for the words of optimism. This week just didn't look good at all. This song and the rest of the album is just so amazing I would love nothing more than to see someone like David become the next superstar in country music a few years down the road. I'll breathe a sigh of relief :) One other thing...if you look back at that 07/15 chart, you'll notice several songs out-pacing WSG...Jana Kramer's "I Hope It Rains", Kelly Clarkson's "Tie It Up", Thompson Square's EISBTA, Cassadee Pope's "Wasting All These Tears", even The Henningsens' "I Miss You". And yet "Whatever She's Got" easily out-peaked all of them. My point is, for the less-established artists, the early chart weeks often don't mean anything at all. A song could catch on at week #12 or week #18 (etc), and in this case I don't think KYT is done at all. The early part of these chart runs is more about staying alive and hanging on, labels picking up adds when they can, and promoting the song as best as they can, hoping that it'll eventually slip through the cracks and catch on. There's still plenty of time left for this one, and I think there's plenty of life left in it. I suppose it could tank and go recurrent in 2 weeks. If that's the case, it would probably indicate the label pulled it and decided (a bit too late) that they would rather have a different song as the follow-up to WSG. But I'm not expecting that to happen here.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 29, 2014 0:58:41 GMT -5
I'm definitely more optimistic about this than I have been about either of his last two follow-ups to big hits. "Whatever She's Got" was his biggest hit yet and this follow-up is his most radio-friendly and logical one yet, so I can see this easily out-performing both "Turning Home" and especially "The Sound of a Million Dreams." It'll most likely be another painstakingly slow climb for David, but I'm inclined to believe that "Kiss You Tonight" will ultimately be another Top 10 hit for him.
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Post by dragontattoo on Apr 29, 2014 10:56:01 GMT -5
There were two hopeful developments for KYT yesterday. *there were 10 adds at monitored stations *it is doing very well on Callout America Survey "David Nail just explodes with “Kiss You Tonight” moving to No. 5 from No. 13 and nabbing the No. 8 favorite position" www1.billboard.biz/bbbiz/photos/pdf/2013/country_update_0428.pdf (Page 2 This Week At Callout America)
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 16, 2014 0:52:53 GMT -5
Music video premieres on CMT in the morning (May 16th).
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Post by tim on May 16, 2014 11:37:30 GMT -5
^Esquire has the video up on their website. Here's the link.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 17, 2014 0:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by tim on May 17, 2014 0:13:31 GMT -5
^Thanks! I've actually been listening to this song all day (and have it on now just as you posted this lol). I've got to catch David Nail in concert. He is without a doubt my current favorite artist out there right now (besides George). I'm a late comer to David's music, but all of his albums are just stellar from beginning to end.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 3:28:29 GMT -5
Excellent video! Hopefully it can help give this one a little jolt. Even prior to the video release, KYT has been out-selling nearly every song outside the airplay top 30 other than the Dierks, Cadillac Three, and Easton tunes (but the last time I checked on Easton's, it had gotten a bit of a bump from his video as well).
This one is just moving slowly. It's not unexpected but that still doesn't ease the nerves, so hopefully it can start to climb a bit faster. I am hoping it can make the MB top 40 in the next week or two.
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Post by killintime on May 18, 2014 15:05:53 GMT -5
Excellent video! Hopefully it can help give this one a little jolt. Even prior to the video release, KYT has been out-selling nearly every song outside the airplay top 30 other than the Dierks, Cadillac Three, and Easton tunes (but the last time I checked on Easton's, it had gotten a bit of a bump from his video as well). This one is just moving slowly. It's not unexpected but that still doesn't ease the nerves, so hopefully it can start to climb a bit faster. I am hoping it can make the MB top 40 in the next week or two. What's your source on the sales data, if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 18, 2014 17:02:41 GMT -5
Excellent video! Hopefully it can help give this one a little jolt. Even prior to the video release, KYT has been out-selling nearly every song outside the airplay top 30 other than the Dierks, Cadillac Three, and Easton tunes (but the last time I checked on Easton's, it had gotten a bit of a bump from his video as well). This one is just moving slowly. It's not unexpected but that still doesn't ease the nerves, so hopefully it can start to climb a bit faster. I am hoping it can make the MB top 40 in the next week or two. What's your source on the sales data, if you don't mind me asking? I'm sure just looking at the position on iTunes is enough in this instance (to see that it's outselling other songs around it by ranking higher on that website). You can see those updated daily along with the airplay updates on www.kworb.com for side-by-side comparisons of how it's doing relative to the tunes around it with similar airplay totals.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 18:18:14 GMT -5
Excellent video! Hopefully it can help give this one a little jolt. Even prior to the video release, KYT has been out-selling nearly every song outside the airplay top 30 other than the Dierks, Cadillac Three, and Easton tunes (but the last time I checked on Easton's, it had gotten a bit of a bump from his video as well). This one is just moving slowly. It's not unexpected but that still doesn't ease the nerves, so hopefully it can start to climb a bit faster. I am hoping it can make the MB top 40 in the next week or two. What's your source on the sales data, if you don't mind me asking? Yeah, like .indulgecountry noted, I don't have specific numbers for KYT (although Roughstock does a top 30 digital country singles chart each week, but David's not anywhere near the top 30 yet), but I just look at the iTunes positions which can be seen at the Kworb website, or in even more detail at Live Pop Bars. Last night, for example, "Kiss You Tonight" was at #91 on the country iTunes chart, and it'll definitely go higher now that the video is out. In comparison, Cassadee Pope's latest is at #152, ZBB's "All Alright" is way down at #322, Kacey's "Keep It To Yourself" is at #165, Chuck Wicks' "Us Again" is #117, Jon Pardi's new one is #166, Love & Theft is at #143, Natalie Stovall is at #1090 (yep...4 digits), Gloriana #399, Danielle Bradbery #314 (and that's up about 600 positions from a week ago, thanks to her video release), Jerrod's "Donkey" already at #125, Ryan Kinder is impressively at #122, etc. Only a handful of tracks so low on the airplay chart are selling a bit better than David is. Easton's "Clockwork" is #58, McCreery's "Feelin' It" is #43 (although it had been in the 200's prior to his Idol performance the other day, so it'll probably drop back down again until airplay starts increasing some more), Cadillac Three is at #44 (but they have twice the airplay David has), Brothers Osborne's "Rum" is at a pretty impressive #85, Kip Moore's "Dirt Road" is at #68, and Kelleigh Bannen's "Famous"--for reasons unknown to me--is doing very well, at #67, and it's been in that area for weeks now.
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Post by dragontattoo on May 30, 2014 7:38:27 GMT -5
It looks like something may finally be happening with Kiss You Tonight. It cracked Top 40 on Billboard and just reached #41 on Mediabase. With several songs going recurrent this weekend it should break into the Top 40 on Mediabase on Sunday.
It sure is taking a long time for a song that seems to be testing well on call out surveys. It was #2 on Callout America for 3 weeks in a row and now it just premiered at #12 on RadioFeedback. It's hard to be patient when lower rated songs keep passing it.
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Post by ladymadonna on May 30, 2014 11:49:00 GMT -5
I remain more than cautiously optimistic about this one because the leading indicators (consistently solid sales position relative to airplay, extremely positive early audience research) are quite good, and it's making slow but steady progress week after week. The video countdown views and steady stream of new stations are bumping the iTunes position gradually but noticeably. Honestly, slow and steady just seems to be David Nail's MO.
There are lots of big summer songs coming through that could derail things, but given that Nail is not yet a huge name, and the fact that Whatever She's Got is still pulling 13+mil audience as a recurrent, I'm more than willing to wait for this single to grow into a real organic hit.
It also feels like it's good counter-programming to the intensely bro songs out there, but can still appeal to a wide audience, as the callout we've seem seems to indicate. Nail is vocally near the top of the heap and has credibility as a songwriter, and it just seems that the time might be right for him to really break.
Anxious to see if things start to tip once it finally reaps the benefit of top 40 countdown spins and hopefully we'll start to see stations increasing their rotation and converting WSG spins. I love the song so am obviously keyed on the positive, but I feel good about the prospects here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 16:39:00 GMT -5
The strange thing about David's "status", if you will, is that despite "Whatever She's Got" being just as big of a hit (or bigger) as a song like "Chillin' It", David's album sales pale in comparison to Cole's, and they are much lower than sales for debut albums from Kacey, Brett, and Thomas Rhett. For whatever reason, the huge success of "Whatever She's Got" didn't really translate to much in the way of album sales, so I think there is a lot riding on this current single.
I like KYT a lot, but I still can't help but feel that it wasn't the best single choice (despite decent sales and solid call-out so far). I feel like "Countin' Cars" or "Broke My Heart" would've moved the needle a bit more from the get-go and might be a bit closer to top 30. "When They're Gone" would make for a great single as well but I guess I can see why MCA might not go for it, since it would probably be considered too 'risky' in this day and age.
The good news is that KYT does appear to be picking up some steam. It's top 40 at both charts now and the sales keep trending higher.
One thing that's really weird, though, is the discrepancy on Mediabase today. Hunter Hayes' "Invisible" fell 3 spots to #41 but it still has over 8.1 mil in audience, whereas David climbed up to #40 with 3.8 mil in audience. I don't think I've ever seen a song with 3.8 mil rank ahead of one with 8.1 mil.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 1, 2014 17:18:05 GMT -5
The strange thing about David's "status", if you will, is that despite "Whatever She's Got" being just as big of a hit (or bigger) as a song like "Chillin' It", David's album sales pale in comparison to Cole's, and they are much lower than sales for debut albums from Kacey, Brett, and Thomas Rhett. For whatever reason, the huge success of "Whatever She's Got" didn't really translate to much in the way of album sales, so I think there is a lot riding on this current single. I like KYT a lot, but I still can't help but feel that it wasn't the best single choice (despite decent sales and solid call-out so far). I feel like "Countin' Cars" or "Broke My Heart" would've moved the needle a bit more from the get-go and might be a bit closer to top 30. "When They're Gone" would make for a great single as well but I guess I can see why MCA might not go for it, since it would probably be considered too 'risky' in this day and age. The good news is that KYT does appear to be picking up some steam. It's top 40 at both charts now and the sales keep trending higher. One thing that's really weird, though, is the discrepancy on Mediabase today. Hunter Hayes' "Invisible" fell 3 spots to #41 but it still has over 8.1 mil in audience, whereas David climbed up to #40 with 3.8 mil in audience. I don't think I've ever seen a song with 3.8 mil rank ahead of one with 8.1 mil. I could not agree more about "Kiss You Tonight" being crucial for David's short term and perhaps long term success. I too find it weird how "Whatever She's Got" did not do more for him in terms of album sales and how quickly (or slow I should say) this song has gone up the charts. When I first heard it, I liked it but knowing the trouble he's had getting his subsequent singles after a big hit ("Red Light", "Let It Rain") up the charts, I felt this might not be the best release during the better weather months. Luckily it's trending towards the good lately as it's eclipsed the top 40 with a solid 148 bullet. In regards to the discrepancy of audience between "Invisible" and "Kiss You Tonight". I agree it is odd and looks ridiculous but I've seen circumstances like this before with Mediabase. One of the problems is many of David's spins come at night or after midnight which less people are listening. Whereas Hunter's song is basically regarded as a recent recurrent, so it gets spun many times throughout the day (he should go recurrent tomorrow anyway). This is a mega problem I've harped on since God knows when. WYRK is a major violator, and will add some songs but keep them to one spins per day, with that one spin coming somewhere between midnight and 5:00 A.M. I remember them spinning "Starshine" by Sweetwater Rain when it was charting but all of it's spins were late at night. If you look at all the other songs around both "Invisible" and "Kiss You Tonight", they all have similar numbers to David's song, rather than Hunter's. Brothers Osborne, Love and Theft, Dan + Shay, Scotty McCreery, Natalie Stovall, Gloriana, Cassadee Pope, and Jon Pardi are all between 4.9 and 3.3 million in audience with somewhere between 979 (Jon Pardi) and 644 (Dan + Shay) in spins. The points system on Mediabase really makes songs in the 40's and 50's earn their numbers. It's a weird discrepancy, but it's not as abnormal as one might think.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 1, 2014 18:47:08 GMT -5
The strange thing about David's "status", if you will, is that despite "Whatever She's Got" being just as big of a hit (or bigger) as a song like "Chillin' It", David's album sales pale in comparison to Cole's, and they are much lower than sales for debut albums from Kacey, Brett, and Thomas Rhett. For whatever reason, the huge success of "Whatever She's Got" didn't really translate to much in the way of album sales, so I think there is a lot riding on this current single. It is very strange. I think it's a very strong album with many good songs (and no clunkers). It does make me wonder what is going on. Is his sales team not strong enough? Did potential buyers want more songs like Whatever She's Got? Is it his age? Maybe his performance style is too stiff and he needs to do a few Luke body rolls or maybe he needs to sing about a donkey? (And you just know that Donkey is going to pass Kiss You Tonight in a week or so.) It is puzzling that the song seems to be doing so well on call out surveys - and yet radio is in no hurry to play it. You would think they would want to play a song that tests strongly among both sexes and all age groups. I'm just hoping that it can break through. I'd like to hear more singles from this album. My choices for future singles would be Burnin' Bed and Counting Cars.
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Post by killintime on Jun 18, 2014 21:52:00 GMT -5
Can anyone tell how this is doing?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 22:08:01 GMT -5
Can anyone tell how this is doing? Still moving very slowly, just inside the top 40 on Mediabase where it's been for the last couple of weeks. It slipped 39-41 on Billboard this week but mostly because few songs went recurrent and songs 36-41 are all neck and neck with each other, battling for airplay, so they just got shuffled around a little bit. Radio is definitely frustrating me with this one, though. I understand why David climbs slowly (although some day his songs will hopefully eventually pick up the pace), but he's coming off a huge hit, and now "Kiss You Tonight" is the #1 testing song at Callout America. It's got almost 53% total passion, which is far and away the highest number. Clearly listeners (those who have heard it) love it and are responding very positively to it. Sales have been pretty decent as well. Essentially it's testing and selling well ahead of the airplay, but we're just waiting on radio PD's to take their heads out of the sand... Granted, "Whatever She's Got" being a big hit does work against this one a bit as well, as WSG is getting a ton of recurrent airplay (I'm still hearing it a lot). WSG still had 12 million in audience on Monday's chart and that put it in the Top 10 Recurrents. If it were still on the current chart it would be way up in the mid 20's still. So sometimes when a newer artist gets a big hit, the recurrent airplay can work against their following singles; however, the preceding big hit should also be able to help out their overall momentum somewhat. But again, we're just waiting on radio here...seems they are so busy playing other artists right now. I have hope that KYT will win out, though.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 18, 2014 23:38:10 GMT -5
It is very frustrating. People seem to like it - and yet radio is so slow to respond. If it could get the Cumulus block - it might help. But if I remember right - Cumulus was very slow to adopt Whatever She's Got.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 0:09:48 GMT -5
Surprised no one commented on this one's recent progress!
David had more than a 300% increase in Billboard audience last week, from 3.585 million to 4.687 million, a gain of 1.102 mil for the week. That enabled KYT to jump 7 spots from 43-36.
I think David might jump Easton and Cassadee this week, and with at least 3 top 10 songs (those by Justin, Luke, and Craig) set to go recurrent, that would put KYT up at #31. If a 4th song (George's IGAC) goes recurrent, David could finish the week at #30.
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Post by jferstler on Jul 3, 2014 0:24:31 GMT -5
This song has grown on me. I went from skipping over this song to going out of my way to look it up and play it. I would think a song like this would catch on, with lyrics like "I've been trying to do with out you, but I can't give up this fight, everything would be alright if I could Kiss You Tonight" those lyrics ring true for me personally after losing those I love(d) both romantically and personally (friends/family).
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Post by ladymadonna on Jul 3, 2014 0:40:45 GMT -5
Surprised no one commented on this one's recent progress! David had more than a 300% increase in Billboard audience last week, from 3.585 million to 4.687 million, a gain of 1.102 mil for the week. That enabled KYT to jump 7 spots from 43-36. I think David might jump Easton and Cassadee this week, and with at least 3 top 10 songs (those by Justin, Luke, and Craig) set to go recurrent, that would put KYT up at #31. If a 4th song (George's IGAC) goes recurrent, David could finish the week at #30. KKBQ in Houston is really leading the way on this one. KYT picked up 43 spins over the last week there, solid market delivering a nice audience spike. Great to see and I hope others follow, because the song still appears to be testing well across a broad range of listener demos even with relatively low general awareness. Hoping that patience pays off (it sure seems to be core to MCA's strategy) though I expect to see a bunch of big summer singles continue blow by, starting with FGL next week. I'm rooting for this whole logjam in the mid 30's to plug it out and start moving as the decks keep clearing. Who knows. If this continues to track like WSG we could be looking at an October peak for the single (which actually kind of feels right for such a romantic little mid-tempo). I would love to see it hang in there.
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Post by killintime on Jul 9, 2014 21:34:37 GMT -5
Did I see right that this jumped to 31 on billboard? Hooray! Meanwhile, our cbs-owned (92.3) and clear channel-owned (93.7) stations here in St. Louis still aren't playing it. No love for the home state boy. What a shame!
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Post by blueguitar on Jul 9, 2014 21:42:41 GMT -5
That is a shame they don't support their local guy. This is my favorite song on the chart right now. Love every bit of it!
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 9, 2014 22:37:15 GMT -5
Did I see right that this jumped to 31 on billboard? Hooray! Meanwhile, our cbs-owned (92.3) and clear channel-owned (93.7) stations here in St. Louis still aren't playing it. No love for the home state boy. What a shame! We had that situation here in 2012 with Krista Marie of The Farm. She's from Batavia which is just 30-35 minutes from Buffalo, yet the station here WYRK, never added "Home Sweet Home". Even though the song got to #18 on Mediabase and #19 on Billboard and spent 40 weeks on the singles chart. I think I've mentioned this 3 or 4 times so far but it still irritates me to this day. Most stations run their playlist like a business unfortunately so it's not all that surprising. David coming off a #1 single though should have been enough momentum to get "Kiss You Tonight" added early on for a local artist.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 10, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -5
St. Louis has the worst country stations I've ever had the misfortune of listening to. I did hear this lovely tune on the radio here in Kansas City last night, though it was at about 3:00 am so that's not saying much. But radio is still loving "Whatever She's Got," so I feel like that's contributed to this one taking awhile to catch on. It's definitely had some staying power. That said, I'm expecting this one to tough it out for the long haul and be another pretty big hit for him. I'd love another No. 1, but I'd settle for at least Top 10.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 10, 2014 14:51:47 GMT -5
Did I see right that this jumped to 31 on billboard? Hooray! Meanwhile, our cbs-owned (92.3) and clear channel-owned (93.7) stations here in St. Louis still aren't playing it. No love for the home state boy. What a shame! We had that situation here in 2012 with Krista Marie of The Farm. She's from Batavia which is just 30-35 minutes from Buffalo, yet the station here WYRK, never added "Home Sweet Home". Even though the song got to #18 on Mediabase and #19 on Billboard and spent 40 weeks on the singles chart. I think I've mentioned this 3 or 4 times so far but it still irritates me to this day. Most stations run their playlist like a business unfortunately so it's not all that surprising. David coming off a #1 single though should have been enough momentum to get "Kiss You Tonight" added early on for a local artist. Do you know if WBEE in Rochester played it? St. Louis has the worst country stations I've ever had the misfortune of listening to. I did hear this lovely tune on the radio here in Kansas City last night, though it was at about 3:00 am so that's not saying much. But radio is still loving "Whatever She's Got," so I feel like that's contributed to this one taking awhile to catch on. It's definitely had some staying power. That said, I'm expecting this one to tough it out for the long haul and be another pretty big hit for him. I'd love another No. 1, but I'd settle for at least Top 10. David Nail always has had slow chart climbs. I know he is one of your favorites. Just get used to having no nails. It's always a nail-biter!
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 10, 2014 14:52:56 GMT -5
We had that situation here in 2012 with Krista Marie of The Farm. She's from Batavia which is just 30-35 minutes from Buffalo, yet the station here WYRK, never added "Home Sweet Home". Even though the song got to #18 on Mediabase and #19 on Billboard and spent 40 weeks on the singles chart. I think I've mentioned this 3 or 4 times so far but it still irritates me to this day. Most stations run their playlist like a business unfortunately so it's not all that surprising. David coming off a #1 single though should have been enough momentum to get "Kiss You Tonight" added early on for a local artist. Do you know if WBEE in Rochester played it? Yes they did, and had it in Medium rotation for a while. In fact they still play it every now and then as a recurrent.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 10, 2014 14:54:20 GMT -5
Do you know if WBEE in Rochester played it? Yes they did, and had it in Medium rotation for a while. In fact they still play it every now and then as a recurrent. Nice. We should just move to Rochester!
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Post by samsager3 on Jul 10, 2014 16:51:04 GMT -5
I love this song and David is one of my favorite artists, unfortnatkrg he is suffering bad timing as other bigger artists are releasing new music left and right and this continues to suffer being jammed between and under them. I think he could get a top 15 even top 10 would be successful at this point and move I to counting cars which again i think is excellent and would be a no brainer single choice.
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