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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 9, 2014 9:31:56 GMT -5
I'm anxious for a music video for this I hope it is a lot better than the Follow Your Arrow video!
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Apr 9, 2014 10:38:24 GMT -5
Thanks .indulgecountry. Now I know how corrupt country radio and the general country music industry is currently and I shall continue pursuing my studies since I see a very happy ending on that end. :)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 9, 2014 12:09:40 GMT -5
I'm anxious for a music video for this I hope it is a lot better than the Follow Your Arrow video! The "Follow Your Arrow" video is fantastic imo. I don't get why people expected it to be some sort of controversial statement video, because even the song itself comes across as more of a happy, carefree kind of tune, instead of something heavier, like "Merry Go 'Round" which got a darker video to match its feel. The video for FYA honestly fits the song perfectly for me, and it's her best video and one of the better ones to come out in the last year. She looks great in it and the desert scenes and all the props/outfits are great. I do hope they put out a video with this single and don't think that this one doesn't need it. It could be another great video, too.
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Post by T on Apr 15, 2014 0:34:19 GMT -5
Been listening to her album non stop.i hope this girl continues to bring real country to the airwaves!!! Lets all All hope this goes #1 guys""
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Post by countrygirl918 on Apr 15, 2014 7:29:49 GMT -5
This song still hasn't made the top 50 on Country Airplay, and if I'm reading the Activator chart in this week's Aircheck update properly, it is only being played on 15 stations (compared to an average of 51 stations that are playing songs in the top 20). I honestly think this is Kacey's most radio-friendly single yet, so if radio continues not to get behind it I can't help but wonder if they're trying to send her a message.
Can anyone explain the rest of the Activator chart to me? It says that this song has 381 points, is +59 points (for the week, I'm assuming), has 102 plays, +18 plays, 15 stations, and 2 adds. The latter 4 figures are pretty self-explanatory, but how are points calculated here? And what is the difference between the Activator chart and the Airplay chart? (Apologies if this isn't the right thread to ask this in.)
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Post by carriekins on Apr 15, 2014 7:33:43 GMT -5
Nobody knows how the points are calculated but it's got something to do with audience, market size (each station is weighted), and when each spin happens.
Activator is the small market chart, similar to Billboard's Indicator chart. Generally, success on Activator/Indicator bodes well for a song's success on the main chart. Activator has a separate station panel from the main chart, too.
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Post by churchchoir on Apr 15, 2014 10:27:19 GMT -5
Kacey has several factors working against her with this single despite strong industry support. She's a new artist four singles deep into an album with a low-tempo song, plus there's a possibility she's still suffering from the disastrous chart run of "Follow Your Arrow" and maybe some PDs have a bad taste in their mouth for her music. I don't see this song doing much more than top 40, but I definitely think Kacey will get more commercial success with her next album. It's a shame Kacey gave "Mama's Broken Heart" to Miranda Lambert because Kacey did a much better job singing it. When I first heard the song I listened to Kacey's version and I thought it was really cool. She made the song seem so eerie (in a good way) and interesting, so I was a bit disappointed when the production and vocals of Miranda's cover kind of took away that eeriness and made the song seem more mainstream. I would love for Kacey to release her own version of that song as a single but I'm sure that's never going to happen.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Apr 15, 2014 12:59:12 GMT -5
It's a shame Kacey gave "Mama's Broken Heart" to Miranda Lambert because Kacey did a much better job singing it. When I first heard the song I listened to Kacey's version and I thought it was really cool. She made the song seem so eerie (in a good way) and interesting, so I was a bit disappointed when the production and vocals of Miranda's cover kind of took away that eeriness and made the song seem more mainstream. I would love for Kacey to release her own version of that song as a single but I'm sure that's never going to happen. I love and prefer Kacey's version of "Mama's Broken Heart" too, but I'm skeptical it would have done any better than her already released singles if she had released it herself instead of Miranda. It's a great song, but Miranda being the one singing it is what made it as big as it was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 14:13:05 GMT -5
This song still hasn't made the top 50 on Country Airplay. It's actually been right at #50 for the last 2 weeks on Country Airplay (Billboard), but I haven't seen it crack the Mediabase top 50 yet. It's definitely a slow start but other artists are in the same boat (Gloriana, Maggie Rose, Lucy Hale, Easton Corbin...plus several others outside the top 40 just had really slow weeks as well, including Cassadee Pope, Jon Pardi, David Nail, and Parmalee).
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Post by tim on Apr 20, 2014 20:08:27 GMT -5
While on my way to brunch today I actually heard this come on the radio. Not only this, but leaving brunch the same station played Craig Morgan's "Wake Up Loving You."
Take it with a grain of salt, though. This is the same station that has given every Kacey single it's share of airplay. If only every station across Amercia could take its cues from this one!
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Post by carriekins on Apr 20, 2014 20:33:23 GMT -5
While on my way to brunch today I actually heard this come on the radio. Not only this, but leaving brunch the same station played Craig Morgan's "Wake Up Loving You." Take it with a grain of salt, though. This is the same station that has given every Kacey single it's share of airplay. If only every station across Amercia could take its cues from this one! I heard it when I was in Orlando last weekend - in the middle of the day, no less - and freaked out. It sounds good on the radio. Incidentally, the station I was listening to (US 1035) is a really good station. They play a really refreshing variety and I even heard some old school Mark Chesnutt and Collin Raye, too. Thumbs up.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 20, 2014 20:44:04 GMT -5
While on my way to brunch today I actually heard this come on the radio. Not only this, but leaving brunch the same station played Craig Morgan's "Wake Up Loving You." Well WYRK hasn't been a Kacey station since "Merry Go Round", but if you like "Wake Up Lovin' You" then you'll love WYRK. I heard it twice this afternoon (Three times today if I count Kingsley's countdown). They have been playing "Wake Up Lovin' You" for a while too. Definitely a station that loves their fair share of Craig. Edit: I usually listen to The Highway, but I didn't use my car on Easter. :)
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Post by someguy on Apr 21, 2014 19:47:14 GMT -5
This is really struggling. It moves back down to #53 this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see it start to lose airplay soon. It's so unfortunate, because I think it would be closer to the top 40 if it had gotten played at the ACMs, as it should have.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 20:29:17 GMT -5
This is really struggling. It moves back down to #53 this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see it start to lose airplay soon. It's so unfortunate, because I think it would be closer to the top 40 if it had gotten played at the ACMs, as it should have. And the 8 major-label releases going for adds next Monday won't help either... Still, I'm a little bit optimistic. The Gloriana and Love & Theft songs are off to slow starts as well, and I think Kacey should be able to get back ahead of Lucy Hale. I don't think this will gain many positions (if any) in the next couple of weeks but if it can hang around for a while, it might still catch on. Maybe I'm just naively hoping, though..
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Post by churchchoir on Apr 21, 2014 20:42:52 GMT -5
This probably would have gone top 40 if they hadn't released FYA. By this point, Kacey's radio momentum is probably all used up for this era. Very few new artists can go deeper into an album and get a single to peak even higher than the previous ones. Maybe this will out-peak FYA by a few spaces but at this point I don't think it'll make any of the countdown shows.
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Post by layne on Apr 21, 2014 20:57:54 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority around here but I am not a huge fan of Kacey's Live show and I just don't know if I feel like she's going to be a huge radio star. With all the critical acclaim, which doesn't necessarily equal mainstream popularity, I think if radio liked this song they would have jumped on it by now. I know some other Artists are moving slowly as well but none of them have as much media/industry hype as Kacey has had.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Apr 21, 2014 21:56:36 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority around here but I am not a huge fan of Kacey's Live show and I just don't know if I feel like she's going to be a huge radio star. With all the critical acclaim, which doesn't necessarily equal mainstream popularity, I think if radio liked this song they would have jumped on it by now. I know some other Artists are moving slowly as well but none of them have as much media/industry hype as Kacey has had. I don't think a lack of mainstream popularity is at issue for Kacey -- as I mentioned in a recent post, her album has outsold (and is outselling on a weekly basis) Keith Urban's current album, not to mention a bunch of other albums from male artists getting far more country radio support. The issue seems to be a disconnect between the particular nature of Kacey's mainstream popularity and the kind of mainstream popularity country radio is interested in courting. That speaks to the narrowness of country radio's current target audience (and its collective intolerance for female voices and anything outside of a very narrow lane of music), though admittedly, it could also speak to some legitimate limitations on Kacey's appeal as you suggest. I think both factors have worked against Kacey's past three singles (including "Keep It To Yourself"), but I continue to think that the former is the bigger issue than the latter. I lean pessimistic about "Keep It To Yourself" at this point...if country radio hasn't picked up "Keep It to Yourself" by now, I'm not sure I see anything on the horizon that would make country radio change its mind. Country radio has at this point shown a willingness to ignore Kacey's critical acclaim, strong download sales (in the case of "Follow Your Arrow") and relatively strong album sales (as already noted). I suppose the CMT Crossroads episode with Katy Perry and Kacey's upcoming short stint of tour dates with her could establish crossover appeal that would suddenly make country radio want to claim Kacey as one of its own. But I continue to think that at this point, country radio has made its decision about Same Trailer, Different Park, and is content to wait to see how Kacey's music evolves on her next album, as well as whether the climate at country radio changes. I think country radio's gatekeepers want to be able to make the argument down the road that it took Kacey a couple of albums to figure out how to make music that worked for them -- that she moved in their direction. But at the same time, if Kacey comes "armed" with a big enough fanbase the next time she delivers a lead single to country radio (and it will have to be pretty big - 500K in album sales seems attainable, but the higher, the better), it's possible that country radio will find it more difficult not to at least grant her one more hit.
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Post by layne on Apr 21, 2014 22:10:23 GMT -5
^ Great Points. I still think this could be a case similar to Jamey Johnson. He has a huge fan base, moves Albums, major label, and Country radio just never got interested. I see the same thing happening with Chris Stapleton in the early going. I have often wondered what country radio would have done with Kacey performing "Mama's Broken Heart" instead of Miranda and "Drink A Beer" with Chris instead of Luke Bryan.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Apr 21, 2014 22:19:07 GMT -5
^ Great Points. I still think this could be a case similar to Jamey Johnson. He has a huge fan base, moves Albums, major label, and Country radio just never got interested. Don't forget "awards darling" in the list of things they have in common. Really good comparison.
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Post by rjz on Apr 22, 2014 6:22:48 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority around here but I am not a huge fan of Kacey's Live show and I just don't know if I feel like she's going to be a huge radio star. With all the critical acclaim, which doesn't necessarily equal mainstream popularity, I think if radio liked this song they would have jumped on it by now. I know some other Artists are moving slowly as well but none of them have as much media/industry hype as Kacey has had. I won tickets from my radio station to see Kacey live (her own show, opened by someone unknown) and didn't have high hopes despite liking her album, since she is so 'mellow'. Her live show was great! I was so surprised how engaging she was-the show was well attended, with an enthusiastic crowd. My friend who only listens to older and alt country also thought she was great. In addition, Kacey always gets very good bumps when she does get a chance to sing at a high profile event, and they persist for a while. So I don't think her live shows are a problem for her, given how well her album sold with so little air play. Even her first single only snuck into the top 10- #10 briefly. I agree she is not going to get good radio play at this point but it seems it is due to the female factor, as well as her songs following her own arrow-she made no attempt on Same Trailor to follow the current radio climate formula. I doubt she will capitulate like so many others these days and come up with Bro or Bra Country songs or songs with that particular produced sound/electronically altered vocals with fairy tale themes of life riding around in a truck getting laid, spending all one's time in a bar-or on a dirt back road or beach. So I agree she will not be a big radio presence .....unless country radio gets back to its roots-at least in small ways.
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Post by layne on Apr 22, 2014 6:55:14 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority around here but I am not a huge fan of Kacey's Live show and I just don't know if I feel like she's going to be a huge radio star. With all the critical acclaim, which doesn't necessarily equal mainstream popularity, I think if radio liked this song they would have jumped on it by now. I know some other Artists are moving slowly as well but none of them have as much media/industry hype as Kacey has had. I won tickets from my radio station to see Kacey live (her own show, opened by someone unknown) and didn't have high hopes despite liking her album, since she is so 'mellow'. Her live show was great! I was so surprised how engaging she was-the show was well attended, with an enthusiastic crowd. My friend who only listens to older and alt country also thought she was great. In addition, Kacey always gets very good bumps when she does get a chance to sing at a high profile event, and they persist for a while. So I don't think her live shows are a problem for her, given how well her album sold with so little air play. Even her first single only snuck into the top 10- #10 briefly. I agree she is not going to get good radio play at this point but it seems it is due to the female factor, as well as her songs following her own arrow-she made no attempt on Same Trailor to follow the current radio climate formula. I doubt she will capitulate like so many others these days and come up with Bro or Bra Country songs or songs with that particular produced sound/electronically altered vocals with fairy tale themes of life riding around in a truck getting laid, spending all one's time in a bar-or on a dirt back road or beach. So I agree she will not be a big radio presence .....unless country radio gets back to its roots-at least in small ways. I saw her twice open for Lady Antebellum and I'm just not a fan of her stage presence. She almost seems uninterested and not really excited about performing. For all I know that may be how she feels as an opener and she may be much better in a small venue as a headliner. I loved Merry Go Round and I also loved Blowin Smoke. I disagree about her music changing. I think if she keeps the same producers (Luke Laird/Shane McAnally) as well as writes most of her songs with them, her sound is going to change and be more radio friendly(at least her single releases).
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Post by countrygirl918 on Apr 22, 2014 7:12:24 GMT -5
I think Kacey has plenty of radio-friendly songs in terms of sound. It's her lyrics that country radio seems to have a problem with, and I can't see her changing herself as a lyrical songwriter simply to fit the radio mold. It's disappointing to see country radio treat "Keep It To Yourself" this way after "Follow Your Arrow," because I think KITY is probably one of the most radio-friendly songs on Same Trailer, Different Park.
We'll see how radio treats her next album era, but unless the current radio climate changes drastically in the next year, I can't see her next era being any more welcomed by radio than this one was. She's not willing to stay in the box country radio wants to put its artists in, and good on her for that. She's clearly finding other ways to get her music heard and be successful.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Apr 22, 2014 7:26:04 GMT -5
I agree she is not going to get good radio play at this point but it seems it is due to the female factor, as well as her songs following her own arrow-she made no attempt on Same Trailor to follow the current radio climate formula. She should have changed every lyric from Same Trailer, Different Park about cigarettes into a lines about beer. "I'm just... drinkin' beer" as the second single, would've been a sure fire #1 at country radio! :'(
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Post by layne on Apr 22, 2014 7:29:47 GMT -5
I think Kacey has plenty of radio-friendly songs in terms of sound. It's her lyrics that country radio seems to have a problem with, and I can't see her changing herself as a lyrical songwriter simply to fit the radio mold. It's disappointing to see country radio treat "Keep It To Yourself" this way after "Follow Your Arrow," because I think KITY is probably one of the most radio-friendly songs on Same Trailer, Different Park. We'll see how radio treats her next album era, but unless the current radio climate changes drastically in the next year, I can't see her next era being any more welcomed by radio than this one was. She's not willing to stay in the box country radio wants to put its artists in, and good on her for that. She's clearly finding other ways to get her music heard and be successful. I don't think radio has a problem with her lyrics. FYA maybe, but that's just one song. MGR was a top 10 hit and it was her debut. She also co-wrote MBH and radio didn't have any problem turning that into a huge hit for Miranda. I don't think radio has to change for Kacey and just like Eric Church I think she'll have some songs that are co-written with Luke Laird that will be radio hits. I really didn't think this current single was the best pick for radio, I thought "Step Off" would have fared better.
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Post by ant on Apr 22, 2014 7:43:53 GMT -5
This probably would have gone top 40 if they hadn't released FYA. By this point, Kacey's radio momentum is probably all used up for this era. Very few new artists can go deeper into an album and get a single to peak even higher than the previous ones. Maybe this will out-peak FYA by a few spaces but at this point I don't think it'll make any of the countdown shows. This. I can't help but feel like if her label had released this before "Follow Your Arrow", that Kacey would've had much greater success with both singles. "Keep It to Yourself" would've been a perfect single for the fall/winter after "Blowin' Smoke" peaked over the summer. And if KITY had become a hit for Kacey as the 3rd single, I feel like country radio may have been a little more receptive to playing "Follow Your Arrow" as her upbeat and final single from her album for the 2014 spring/summer season. I think the label wanted to jump on releasing FYA as a single as soon as possible due to its strong sales on iTunes, but I really think that was a mistake.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Apr 22, 2014 10:07:57 GMT -5
I think Kacey has plenty of radio-friendly songs in terms of sound. It's her lyrics that country radio seems to have a problem with, and I can't see her changing herself as a lyrical songwriter simply to fit the radio mold. It's disappointing to see country radio treat "Keep It To Yourself" this way after "Follow Your Arrow," because I think KITY is probably one of the most radio-friendly songs on Same Trailer, Different Park. We'll see how radio treats her next album era, but unless the current radio climate changes drastically in the next year, I can't see her next era being any more welcomed by radio than this one was. She's not willing to stay in the box country radio wants to put its artists in, and good on her for that. She's clearly finding other ways to get her music heard and be successful. I don't think radio has a problem with her lyrics. FYA maybe, but that's just one song. MGR was a top 10 hit and it was her debut. She also co-wrote MBH and radio didn't have any problem turning that into a huge hit for Miranda. I don't think radio has to change for Kacey and just like Eric Church I think she'll have some songs that are co-written with Luke Laird that will be radio hits. I really didn't think this current single was the best pick for radio, I thought "Step Off" would have fared better. I hope you're right. I was more optimistic about Kacey's mainstream future a few weeks ago, but ever since her ACM performance snub and the continuing refusal of country radio to play this song, I'm much less positive. I do think her lyrics are affecting her, as well as her blunt personality. She's very blunt and honest in her songwriting, and she's not singing about trucks, tailgates, moonlight, daisy dukes, etc., so she is pretty "edgy" for country radio. ;) Even Eric has issues getting radio airplay with some of his edgier stuff - "The Outsiders" only went to #25 on Country Airplay, and it wasn't until his 10th single that he had a #1 smash hit. So I suppose his history does give me a bit of hope for Kacey's future. Whether she gets mainstream radio success or not, I hope Kacey never changes who she is as an artist in order to bend to what the industry may want her to be. As some of you have mentioned, I too wonder if this song is hurting because it came after FYA. As excited as I was to see Kacey and her team be brave enough to release that song, I'm now wondering if it would have been better served as the final single from the era. Looking back, I'd probably do the singles something like this: 1. Merry Go 'Round 2. Silver Lining or Step Off 3. Keep It To Yourself 4. Follow Your Arrow I've no idea if Kacey's team is planning a music video for KITY, but I kind of doubt it considering the song isn't gaining any traction on country radio.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 15:28:58 GMT -5
Sigh. The optimist in me thought this would do very well.
This song is exactly the kind of material I miss so desperately on Country radio, and it's so discouraging to see how corrupt the industry is.
I'm in love with Kacey's album, though, and I suspect Kacey went into this not caring too much about mainstream success too much, anyway.
It's always refreshing to hear artists speak out honestly, and quietly do their own thing, regardless of commercial success.
In the meantime, I still detest Country radio and will gladly support anyone who calls 'em out.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Apr 27, 2014 20:18:41 GMT -5
With Blake Shelton's "Doin' What She Likes" and Tim McGraw's "Lookin' For That Girl", leaving this evening, this sneaks in at #49 tonight on Mediabase!!!!
54 49 Up this week KACEY MUSGRAVES Keep It To Yourself 460 410 50 2.343
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Post by countrysuperfan on Apr 28, 2014 4:26:28 GMT -5
This song is nowhere near as good as 'Follow Your Arrow' or 'Merry Go Round'. In fact, in terms of female singer-songwriters, for someone as hailed as Kacey there are better unreleased tracks on the most recent Ashley Monroe and Taylor Swift albums. I also think it's unfortunate that the fantastic 'It Is What It Is' won't see the light of day at radio.
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Post by rjz on Apr 28, 2014 7:23:41 GMT -5
This song is nowhere near as good as 'Follow Your Arrow' or 'Merry Go Round'. In fact, in terms of female singer-songwriters, for someone as hailed as Kacey there are better unreleased tracks on the most recent Ashley Monroe and Taylor Swift albums. I also think it's unfortunate that the fantastic 'It Is What It Is' won't see the light of day at radio. I agree, but it has a pleasant sound, is radio friendly and after Blowin Smoke and FYA it makes sense for the label to try for something more radio friendly . FYA was certainly a great song for radio, but because of the lyrics didn't go anywhere-just like Keep It To Yourself wouldn't either. I just can't imagine radio giving up its double standard of embracing Bro songs about one night stands......to embrace a song about a woman proposing a one night stand. I love that song too, but It is what it is.
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