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Post by music89 on May 12, 2015 14:23:11 GMT -5
That's nice, but I'm not too excited about this. Empire needs to slow its roll with these celebrities. There needs to be a real focus on the writing and story developments. I'm non a fan of the show, i think it's overrated...but i will definitely watch the episode with AK LOL! And it will be a nice promo for her when the new album will be out!
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Post by Glove Slap on May 12, 2015 15:03:50 GMT -5
I'm here for them thugging Alicia out a little bit! Bringing those beads back!! And these moves!
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Post by cjay on May 12, 2015 15:11:29 GMT -5
I'm excited for her inclusion on Empire. Hopefully she plays herself and promotes a new song. EXPOSURE. She needs to get her R&B base back. I miss those 600k+ debuts from her!
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Post by music89 on May 12, 2015 15:29:37 GMT -5
I'm excited for her inclusion on Empire. Hopefully she plays herself and promotes a new song. EXPOSURE. She needs to get her R&B base back. I miss those 600k+ debuts from her! !!!!!! She needs to release a great (rnb/hip-hop/soul) first single. Il she will release a pop/mediocre song like Girl On Fire she won't do great numbers.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 16:03:13 GMT -5
I want her to work with 40 again!!!! Unthinkable is just...transcendent.
Also I actually hope she plays like an actual character on Empire, not just herself or a basic replica of herself. I hate when celebrities go on TV shows to just play a perception of themselves, especially ones who can actually act.
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Post by Rican@ on May 12, 2015 16:15:00 GMT -5
Yes, her and 40 (along with Drake) need to do something real soon. I wouldn't even mind a whole album with them (along with Kerry). I think we will get her Love Deluxe out of her if she would do that with them.
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Post by music89 on May 15, 2015 5:25:06 GMT -5
Music is life Captured in a bottle of sound Set free to be felt Until the end of the song. -ak
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Post by music89 on May 23, 2015 10:46:36 GMT -5
Clean Bandit are collaborating with Alicia Keys
The 'Rather Be' hitmakers have revealed they've been busy in the studio working on new music with the 34-year-old star.
Jack Patterson said: ''We've been working with Alicia Keys, which has been pretty amazing.''
The 28-year-old star - who, together with Grace Chatto, Luke Patterson and Neil Amin-Smith makes up the group - confessed he was unable to control his nerves upon meeting the 'Empire State of Mind' singer.
He said: ''It was intense. I've grown up listening to her music and I was shaking quite a bit. It was difficult to get going.''
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Post by Glove Slap on May 23, 2015 21:23:43 GMT -5
I'm excited to hear what comes of that. Alicia would fit in well with throwback deep house styled productions, especially since she wrote Million Dollar Bill.
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Post by felipe on May 24, 2015 10:16:06 GMT -5
I'm excited for her inclusion on Empire. Hopefully she plays herself and promotes a new song. EXPOSURE. She needs to get her R&B base back. I miss those 600k+ debuts from her! !!!!!! She needs to release a great (rnb/hip-hop/soul) first single. Il she will release a pop/mediocre song like Girl On Fire she won't do great numbers. But wasn't Girl on Fire a big hit for her? It did way better than, say, Un-Thinkable, which is straight-up R&B, right?
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Post by music89 on May 24, 2015 16:55:19 GMT -5
!!!!!! She needs to release a great (rnb/hip-hop/soul) first single. Il she will release a pop/mediocre song like Girl On Fire she won't do great numbers. But wasn't Girl on Fire a big hit for her? It did way better than, say, Un-Thinkable, which is straight-up R&B, right? Yes Girl on fire did really well...but the album did 750k. Unthinkable did great on the rnb chart (12 weeks al #1) tho.
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Post by Rican@ on May 24, 2015 22:31:24 GMT -5
While Girl on Fire did well, people were not checking for it still. It was a hit because she pushed hard for it. She was promoting it everywhere. I honestly think she can get the R&B crowd back and sells if she releases something in vein of "You Don't Know My Name". We want soul.
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Post by cjay on May 25, 2015 3:27:09 GMT -5
It's still weird to me that Girl on Fire sold 3 million singles but failed to reach top 10 on the hot 100. On some level the single must have connected with pop audience to sell 3 million copies. However, it did not connect very well with her core R&B fanbase. And too bad the follow-up single (Brand New Me). Fire we make should have been the follow up instead. And listen to your heart and when it's all over should have been singles.
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2015 4:00:37 GMT -5
While Girl on Fire did well, people were not checking for it still. It was a hit because she pushed hard for it. She was promoting it everywhere. I honestly think she can get the R&B crowd back and sells if she releases something in vein of "You Don't Know My Name". We want soul. This!
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2015 4:10:16 GMT -5
It's still weird to me that Girl on Fire sold 3 million singles but failed to reach top 10 on the hot 100. On some level the single must have connected with pop audience to sell 3 million copies. However, it did not connect very well with her core R&B fanbase. And too bad the follow-up single (Brand New Me). Fire we make should have been the follow up instead. And listen to your heart and when it's all over should have been singles. Girl On Fire is a mediocre pop song, that's why R&B fans hated it. People expect Soul songs from her. Her team thought Girl On Fire would have helped the album, but it didn't happen. People who like her music will never appreciate songs like Girl On Fire. That's why i'm saying that if she will release another pop song as the first single, the album will "flop".
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Post by cjay on May 25, 2015 12:33:00 GMT -5
It's still weird to me that Girl on Fire sold 3 million singles but failed to reach top 10 on the hot 100. On some level the single must have connected with pop audience to sell 3 million copies. However, it did not connect very well with her core R&B fanbase. And too bad the follow-up single (Brand New Me). Fire we make should have been the follow up instead. And listen to your heart and when it's all over should have been singles. Girl On Fire is a mediocre pop song, that's why R&B fans hated it. People expect Soul songs from her. Her team thought Girl On Fire would have helped the album, but it didn't happen. People who like her music will never appreciate songs like Girl On Fire. That's why i'm saying that if she will release another pop song as the first single, the album will "flop". Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller.
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2015 15:25:49 GMT -5
Girl On Fire is a mediocre pop song, that's why R&B fans hated it. People expect Soul songs from her. Her team thought Girl On Fire would have helped the album, but it didn't happen. People who like her music will never appreciate songs like Girl On Fire. That's why i'm saying that if she will release another pop song as the first single, the album will "flop". Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. Yes girl on dire peaked at #11. Btw i think they should have released Limitedless instead of New day, then Tears always win as the first single, then Fire we make followed by Listen to your heart and when it's all over.
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Post by Rican@ on May 25, 2015 15:30:55 GMT -5
I always thought Limitedless would work as single. Hell, with the exception of Fire We Make, most of the other songs would have better singles. Still pissed how "...Heart" and "...Over" were wasted as album tracks. I could honestly see "Tears Always Win" as the lead single now.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 15:45:13 GMT -5
Tears Always Win would have been a great lead single. Catchy enough to crossover but still soulful and in tune with the style of music that Alicia makes best.
They honestly chose the worst song on the album to lead.
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2015 16:29:03 GMT -5
Tears Always Win would have been a great lead single. Catchy enough to crossover but still soulful and in tune with the style of music that Alicia makes best. They honestly chose the worst song on the album to lead. Totally agree with you. And well...they created girl in fire only for the charts.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:54:34 GMT -5
Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. Alicia and RCA handled GOF weirdly IMO, waiting until it had been on urban and UAC for two or three months to send it to CHR. Once they sent it to CHR the airplay there + the sales started taking off, but she peaked and started losing steam on urban, so the numbers just didn't line up at the same time to give it the top 10 position it should have had. IIRC it kind of hung on for a while, too. There are a handful of songs that are able to sell that well without hitting the top ten, mainly due to their longevity. The song was basic and one of my least favorite Alicia singles ever, but I know several people who liked it and were appalled to know I didn't. With that said, I agree it was the wrong choice as lead single (and BNM was an even worse choice as follow-up) - they gave urban fans a poor reflection of what the album was going to be. In retrospect I get the feeling that the label just wasn't sure what to do with her at the time, but they should have just done split singles for the formats instead of relying on the two Becky anthems of the album do all the work.
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Post by felipe on May 25, 2015 17:59:06 GMT -5
Girl On Fire is a mediocre pop song, that's why R&B fans hated it. People expect Soul songs from her. Her team thought Girl On Fire would have helped the album, but it didn't happen. People who like her music will never appreciate songs like Girl On Fire. That's why i'm saying that if she will release another pop song as the first single, the album will "flop". Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. I agree that her core fan base is R&B in the US, but that's not going to sell her a lot of albums, is it? She has always been a consistent seller because of her crossover appeal, and songs like Un-Thinkable or Fire we make don't seem likely to do that. Un-Thinkable was a huge R&B hit, and didn't even reach top 20 on the Hot 100. On the other hand, Girl on Fire was a hit around the world, something Un-Thinkable could never be. I don't think Alicia would limit herself to be that R&B singer who does well solely on US R&B charts and nowhere else. The tricky thing is finding a somewhere in the middle in a way to not alienate her fans.
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Post by cjay on May 25, 2015 19:27:20 GMT -5
Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. Yes girl on dire peaked at #11. Btw i think they should have released Limitedless instead of New day, then Tears always win as the first single, then Fire we make followed by Listen to your heart and when it's all over. Funny that you mention tears always win. The very first time I heard the song I thought "why didn't they pick this as the first single." TAW win is my hands down favorite song on the album. Followed by One Thing and Listen to your heart.
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Post by cjay on May 25, 2015 19:49:09 GMT -5
Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. I agree that her core fan base is R&B in the US, but that's not going to sell her a lot of albums, is it? She has always been a consistent seller because of her crossover appeal, and songs like Un-Thinkable or Fire we make don't seem likely to do that. Un-Thinkable was a huge R&B hit, and didn't even reach top 20 on the Hot 100. On the other hand, Girl on Fire was a hit around the world, something Un-Thinkable could never be. I don't think Alicia would limit herself to be that R&B singer who does well solely on US R&B charts and nowhere else. The tricky thing is finding a somewhere in the middle in a way to not alienate her fans. Yeah but perhaps she shouldn't release the cheesy pop girl power anthems as a lead single. The problem is her base thought the whole album was representative of that sound. GOF turned the base off so much that they just wrote off the entire album without giving it a try. And yes, Alicia is an international superstar. But she's sold very well in the international markets with ALL of her albums/R&B records--not just with As I Am / No One. BUT I Also think her base turned their back on her before the era began because they thought she stole a married man. Every time someone I know mentioned her they said one of two things: 1) home wrecker; and/or 2) why does she have to scream at the top of her lungs all the time. What I find funny is that almost all of the people who judged her have messed around with taken men. So I hope we are over this by now.
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Post by felipe on May 25, 2015 21:42:13 GMT -5
I do agree a lot of people had turned their back on her before the era had even started, that's why GoF took so long to catch on. IIRC they released New Day as a buzz single before GoF and it generated zero buzz.
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Post by music89 on May 26, 2015 5:12:15 GMT -5
Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. Alicia and RCA handled GOF weirdly IMO, waiting until it had been on urban and UAC for two or three months to send it to CHR. Once they sent it to CHR the airplay there + the sales started taking off, but she peaked and started losing steam on urban, so the numbers just didn't line up at the same time to give it the top 10 position it should have had. IIRC it kind of hung on for a while, too. There are a handful of songs that are able to sell that well without hitting the top ten, mainly due to their longevity. The song was basic and one of my least favorite Alicia singles ever, but I know several people who liked it and were appalled to know I didn't. With that said, I agree it was the wrong choice as lead single (and BNM was an even worse choice as follow-up) - they gave urban fans a poor reflection of what the album was going to be. In retrospect I get the feeling that the label just wasn't sure what to do with her at the time, but they should have just done split singles for the formats instead of relying on the two Becky anthems of the album do all the work.
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Post by music89 on May 26, 2015 5:25:57 GMT -5
Oh I get all of this. In fact in previous post I pretty much said she has to stay away from the pop Girl pop power anthems. Her core base is R&B. The reason why No One worked so well is because it was soulful and people could feel the realness of that song. But we have to admit that Brand New Me didn't do her any favors either. fire we make should have been the follow-up. By the time she got around to releasing it, urban mainstream was already over the album. Luckily It was a big hot on Urban AC. I was just stating that I thought it was weird GOF never reach top 10 on the Hot 100 but sold 3 million singles. I can't think of any song in the last decade that sold 3 million in the U.S. And never made top 10 on the hot 100. Obviously she promoted the hell out of this song and it was a consistent seller. I agree that her core fan base is R&B in the US, but that's not going to sell her a lot of albums, is it? She has always been a consistent seller because of her crossover appeal, and songs like Un-Thinkable or Fire we make don't seem likely to do that. Un-Thinkable was a huge R&B hit, and didn't even reach top 20 on the Hot 100. On the other hand, Girl on Fire was a hit around the world, something Un-Thinkable could never be. I don't think Alicia would limit herself to be that R&B singer who does well solely on US R&B charts and nowhere else. The tricky thing is finding a somewhere in the middle in a way to not alienate her fans. Well...she sold million copies with her previous albums (without releasing pop song)...while Girl On Fire sold just 750k. I know that R&B music was way more popular ten years ago, but releasing GOF as the first single was a bad choice because people who like her thought the album wasn't Soul/R&B enough. And GOF was a hit single (it was the FIRST single) but a lot of people hated it, while Unthinkable (it was the THIRD single) didn't do great on the Hot 100, but was a hit on the R&B chart and it's considered one of her best songs.
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