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Post by Rican@ on Mar 29, 2017 12:57:46 GMT -5
I don't want a tour. I hope she plans on releasing another album soon.
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Post by music89 on Mar 29, 2017 13:28:35 GMT -5
I don't want a tour. I hope she plans on releasing another album soon. She's been in the studio so I think she will release another album and then tour. I hope the new music is not rushed.
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Post by Rican@ on Mar 29, 2017 13:47:34 GMT -5
I don't want a tour. I hope she plans on releasing another album soon. She's been in the studio so I think she will release another album and then tour. I hope the new music is not rushed. It can't be rushed if she had over 160 songs from the previous eras so she has songs to choose from. I could see her trying to get more "current/trendy" songs together right now. Or working on songs that did not make a cut for HERE.
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Post by music89 on Mar 29, 2017 17:20:21 GMT -5
She's been in the studio so I think she will release another album and then tour. I hope the new music is not rushed. It can't be rushed if she had over 160 songs from the previous eras so she has songs to choose from. I could see her trying to get more "current/trendy" songs together right now. Or working on songs that did not make a cut for HERE. I don't want her to do "trendy" songs. If "current" means trap/RnB then I prefer a flop album. Also I don't think that sound would work for her. People just wanna hear great Soul/R&B songs from Alicia (something that sounds like her first albums). She just needs to release better singles to get people attention again. She doesn't need a hit single. She needs to sell her albums. Look at Usher. He followed the urban/trap/R&B trend and flopped harder than Alicia.
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Post by Rican@ on Mar 29, 2017 23:29:25 GMT -5
It can't be rushed if she had over 160 songs from the previous eras so she has songs to choose from. I could see her trying to get more "current/trendy" songs together right now. Or working on songs that did not make a cut for HERE. I don't want her to do "trendy" songs. If "current" means trap/RnB then I prefer a flop album. Also I don't think that sound would work for her. People just wanna hear great Soul/R&B songs from Alicia (something that sounds like her first albums). She just needs to release better singles to get people attention again. She doesn't need a hit single. She needs to sell her albums. Look at Usher. He followed the urban/trap/R&B trend and flopped harder than Alicia. She can try her luck with more "trendy" producers. Honestly, she is at this point in her career where she can experiment with her sound and just try to get a hit. I don't mind it. As for trying to sell albums, I don't know about that because pretty much everybody is going through it. I just expect that she will do well with selling an album if she gets a hit. I would prefer her doing something hip/trap/R&B songs instead of her doing another Pop song (Girl on Fire). I think her voice would be smooth over something like that, I just want to hear it. She can loose up, but I think HERE satisfied my taste of her first albums for me. I think she excels well in providing that with this album. I don't think anyone is expecting her old sound any longer, it is not in mainstream's style currently, unfortunately. Despite "In Common" being so great, we are learning it not just the single, but a good feature is needed for her. I'm curious about this DJ Khaled's track because I could see that one being quite nice especially if it is anything in nature of "Shining".
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Post by music89 on Mar 30, 2017 2:57:44 GMT -5
I don't want her to do "trendy" songs. If "current" means trap/RnB then I prefer a flop album. Also I don't think that sound would work for her. People just wanna hear great Soul/R&B songs from Alicia (something that sounds like her first albums). She just needs to release better singles to get people attention again. She doesn't need a hit single. She needs to sell her albums. Look at Usher. He followed the urban/trap/R&B trend and flopped harder than Alicia. She can try her luck with more "trendy" producers. Honestly, she is at this point in her career where she can experiment with her sound and just try to get a hit. I don't mind it. As for trying to sell albums, I don't know about that because pretty much everybody is going through it. I just expect that she will do well with selling an album if she gets a hit. I would prefer her doing something hip/trap/R&B songs instead of her doing another Pop song (Girl on Fire). I think her voice would be smooth over something like that, I just want to hear it. She can loose up, but I think HERE satisfied my taste of her first albums for me. I think she excels well in providing that with this album. I don't think anyone is expecting her old sound any longer, it is not in mainstream's style currently, unfortunately. Despite "In Common" being so great, we are learning it not just the single, but a good feature is needed for her. I'm curious about this DJ Khaled's track because I could see that one being quite nice especially if it is anything in nature of "Shining". Again, I don't care about album sales. Hearing her singing over trap/R&B songs would be disappointing to me. I want her to stay true to her artistry. She can try new things but she shouldn't follow the trend. She would look desperate. Maxwell is on the same situation. He did poor numbers but the album was good so I'm satisfied. From what i read on the internet, most people miss her old sound (HERE was close to that sound although there were new elements). So she should get back the fans she lost with GOF. She should wear the braids again and release something like her first 2 albums. Then she would get people attention. She also needs to release and promote the best songs on the album, not the weakest. A feat. with Kendrick Lamar would be dope. He's talented and popular so it would help her.
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Post by Rican@ on Mar 30, 2017 11:00:38 GMT -5
Don't box her please. It is not necessary at all. Wear the braids? No and no.
She already done a feature with Kendrick so I would like other features and producers. She does not have to come off desperate, hell "In Common" was from an "in today" producer and it came out great. Again, HERE gave us plenty of her first two albums so she can move on with trying to make hits.
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Post by music89 on Apr 2, 2017 16:44:57 GMT -5
Don't box her please. It is not necessary at all. Wear the braids? No and no. She already done a feature with Kendrick so I would like other features and producers. She does not have to come off desperate, hell "In Common" was from an "in today" producer and it came out great. Again, HERE gave us plenty of her first two albums so she can move on with trying to make hits. Yeah In Common was really good (it's her best first single since YDKMN). As long as she doesn't do average trap/R&B tracks or bland pop songs I'm good. I think she should do something with Kaytranada. Btw, again...I don't care about album sales or her having a hit. I just want great singles and albums. Also right now it's not easy for her to have a hit. In Common sounded like a summer hit but flopped. Maybe because it should have had a better promo and it should have been played more on the radios.
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Post by vantiboy3 on Apr 3, 2017 8:27:54 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as i love for her to keep on making great R&B/Soul records, she really needs radio hit songs. That will be able to sell her amazing albums. And get her into the current streaming market.
She is not done at radio. She has already proven, with the right producer and the right songs, she can churn out radio hits.
Frank Dukes and Nineteen85 would be a great fit for her right now. They are perfect for the sound she is aiming for. Even F.Ball and Hitmaka would compliment her sound perfectly.
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Post by Rican@ on Apr 3, 2017 11:19:04 GMT -5
I want a Mike Will Made it production, I have always love his producer's credit especially with Kelly Rowland. I know he has tried to get Alicia before on Twitter. I think that would be good one for her.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Apr 3, 2017 13:29:38 GMT -5
I think she should do something with Kaytranada. She already put out a song with Nada, no?
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Post by music89 on Apr 3, 2017 13:51:34 GMT -5
I want a Mike Will Made it production, I have always love his producer's credit especially with Kelly Rowland. I know he has tried to get Alicia before on Twitter. I think that would be good one for her. No please Mike Will makes average/bad beats And...again, Usher had many trap/R&B songs on Hard To Love and he flopped. This AINT the sound Alicia needs.
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Post by music89 on Apr 3, 2017 13:53:02 GMT -5
I think she should do something with Kaytranada. She already put out a song with Nada, no? Yes, Sweet F'in Love. But the beat was an old Kaytranada song.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:59:24 GMT -5
I want a Mike Will Made it production, I have always love his producer's credit especially with Kelly Rowland. I know he has tried to get Alicia before on Twitter. I think that would be good one for her. No please Mike Will makes average/bad beats And...again, Usher had many trap/R&B songs on Hard To Love and he flopped. This AINT the sound Alicia needs. I'm kind of in the middle on this argument - there's nothing wrong with her working with Mike Will just for the sake of experimenting and seeing what happens - the results could be brilliant. And there's nothing really wrong with wanting to chase fans a bit or to want to prove to herself and/or others that she still has it in her to make a big hit record. I just wouldn't want her to do it solely to ride a wave; there must be a meeting point between the artistic merit and the desire to appeal to the masses. But I think you can often tell when that meeting point is not there...that's why H2L ended up faltering for Usher. This isn't the place for me to elaborate on my thoughts there so I won't, but I will say that as an Usher fan I actually think the production is the highlight of Hard II Love and that is not what tripped him up. But lyrically it's rather a mess, I didn't feel like he was fully connected to most of the songs on the album, and a lot of the stuff honestly felt like it could have been five other artists' leftovers. The pop music that so many complained about at least felt like it came naturally to him and was tailored specifically for his tastes, but H2L is a painfully obvious kneejerk response to everyone who was complaining about the pop. And he was already in a s**tty position anyway because folks were already mad at him over the previous album and it was hard to tell what direction he really needed to go in to placate them and regain or at least maintain sales. His promo was really bad, too, maybe even worse than that for HERE. Alicia did have The Voice to give her a visibility boost, and she didn't have people already upset with her for 'betraying' her core r&b fans or whatever. HERE didn't do great, but the one thing A has going for her is consistency, so I think she has been able to hold on to a core fanbase a bit better than Usher has. Both of them have some marketing/branding issues they need to work on IMO (and they also both need to get the hell off RCA), but they're coming from oddly opposite ends in this regard: Usher needs to settle down and find his groove so he can establish some consistency - he has three potential audiences to cater to and right now none of them are being catered to especially well - while Alicia is on the other end and needs to be willing to step out of her groove a little bit if she wants to reignite broader interest and a sense of freshness in her music. Mike isn't entirely one-note in his sound. He did Kisses Down Low, Body Party. While those songs are not Alicia's style in content/lyricism, neither of those songs are trap and I think Alicia could pull something like them off very well in her own style; something that's distinctly her but has a current vibe that would be played anywhere outside of UAC. Also check out Mariah's Faded on her last album - that's right up Alicia's alley IMO. I'm still salty that In Common didn't take off, b/c I feel like that was exactly what I just described; but IC was promoted so poorly I'm not sure it ever had a chance to live up to its full potential.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:23:04 GMT -5
In Common = one of the best songs of 2016 HERE was a great album by all means, so I'd happily wait awhile for another album if it's a quality one.
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Post by Rican@ on Apr 3, 2017 23:13:48 GMT -5
No please Mike Will makes average/bad beats Also check out Mariah's Faded on her last album - that's right up Alicia's alley IMO. . This is exactly why I want her to work with him because that track is such a jam/gem (played it yesterday) and it would be perfect sound for Alicia too. I know this far fetched but Mike has the classic "Pour It Up" in his producer's credit too and so I would not mind anything in that sense for Alicia to play around with either. I know she has been wanting to go more "hip hop" so she should try it out at least to see if she hits it off on urban again. Alicia's music is quite personal, which is cute, but I want her to focus on hits.
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Post by music89 on Apr 6, 2017 7:39:16 GMT -5
Not a fan of Faded, it's just decent imo. Body Party is nice. If I want to hear those type of songs I listen to Ciara or somebody else. I expect better music from Alicia cause she's way better than Ciara, Kelly Rowland, Rihanna... I'm ok with her experimenting but I don't want her to follow the trends. Sorry, I won't change my opinion. I became an Alicia fan because of her talent and her music, not because she was famous. I don't care about hits or album sales. I just want her to release great singles and albums.
Now I'm just going to wait for her next "move".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 17:10:41 GMT -5
Surprise mini EP coming tomorrow Tracklist: No One (Acoustic) Place To Call My Own (AK Version) If I Ain't Got You (Piano & Vocal Version) Stolen Moments
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Post by allow that on Apr 6, 2017 17:54:35 GMT -5
I'm still salty that In Common didn't take off, b/c I feel like that was exactly what I just described; but IC was promoted so poorly I'm not sure it ever had a chance to live up to its full potential. That song reeled me right back in as a fan (until the album scared me off in two seconds again). Still one of my very favorite songs of 2016 and an indisputable summer smash in NYC if nowhere else. Which makes it all the more shocking to this New Yorker that it couldn't even pull off like #98 on the Hot 100.
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Post by Rican@ on Apr 6, 2017 22:55:55 GMT -5
She could have given us something new with this EP and left off "Stolen Moments", the studio version is awful.
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Post by felipe on Apr 20, 2017 8:21:12 GMT -5
Is Stolen Moments an old song?
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Post by Rican@ on Apr 20, 2017 9:02:50 GMT -5
Is Stolen Moments an old song? Yes. She did a live version of it for her Unplugged album (amazing and she shows off her piano skills on the track during the performance) and we got the studio version (awful) during Element of Freedom era. However, it was not released in US during the time despite having the track. I'm not sure why her team felt the need to release it to us this time when she could have kept it. Or at least re-record it with Jermaine's vocals from Unplugged version.
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Post by felipe on Apr 20, 2017 20:17:44 GMT -5
Oh, I remember it now. I had a feeling I'd heard it before.
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