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Post by kanimal on Feb 9, 2015 14:59:39 GMT -5
M was smart to perform during peak time In fairness, she and Kanye (and perhaps Miranda since there were so few country acts) definitely helped make that "peak time." These shows usually reach their greatest audiences in the three half hours between 8:30 & 10PM, but the talent will dictate whether 8:30-9, 9-9:30 or 9:30-10 is the absolute top segment. By default, I'd say that the 9-9:30PM segment is usually the top-rated one, so it's definitely notable that this year's peak came at 8:30.
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Post by HoldTight on Feb 9, 2015 15:23:18 GMT -5
It peaked before 9 because TWD started at 9.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 18:13:34 GMT -5
You guys talked a lot here, no time to read it all back. I just finished watching back all the performances. I loved Ariana, Ed & the others, Hozier, and Katy :) Madonna did good as well. Didn't expect a lot from her tbh. ETA: I forgot to mention Rihanna. How could I :o it was probably my favorite performance. And Paul was singing, too ETA: Can you hold them, Sam? The real British queen can hold 6 at a time :kii:
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Post by Ezekiel 23:20–21 on Feb 9, 2015 22:58:39 GMT -5
It's ludicrous to ask a woman in her 30s to edit her work for teenagers. She didn't audition to be a schoolteacher. Given what some schoolteachers in the U.S. (and elsewhere) have been accused of doing with their students, Beyonce's performances, songs, and videos are tame. But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind. When has Beyonce been peddling Kidz Bop versions of songs?! My First Time from her debut album is basically about losing her virginity, Kitty Kat on B'Day is a PUSSY anthem, Ego is a full on sexual innuendo from the first line to the last on IA...SF, Dance For You on 4 is about being a stripper for your man, and now she just said to hell with it I'll f**k you anywhere Mr. Carter. And a number of her Destiny's Child songs were hypersexual. I mean, one of the songs was about how delicious her booty is and another was about how some women were dressed too hoey and then another was about how she wanted to be submissive to her man and do whatever he wanted her to do to/with/for him.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 10, 2015 0:47:50 GMT -5
Kanye should have sat his simple minded self down. He's going to rush the stage to defend someone who has already won three times that night? No one would rush the stage and grab the mic for him. Irritating.
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Post by Anticonformity on Feb 10, 2015 3:33:38 GMT -5
Guys, as a pastor's kid who literally grew up in the church, you can't argue with stupidity...
LMFAO the things I wasn't allowed to listen to is fucking insane (but id sneak it anyway)
Remember: God (if you choose to believe) = good
Religion, church, His INSANE fan base = stay the fuck away from them .________________.
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 10, 2015 12:41:51 GMT -5
If Beck were black would Kanye have reacted the way he did...just saying.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 10, 2015 12:53:14 GMT -5
If Beck were black would Kanye have reacted the way he did...just saying. Kanye's douchebaggy-ness crosses all socially constructed lines, it has no boundaries.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 10, 2015 13:27:15 GMT -5
As far as I understood, Kanye went up on stage as a winking joke and everyone seemed pretty entertained by it. It was later, when asked by E! News, that he expressed what he thought went wrong.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 10, 2015 13:27:26 GMT -5
If Beck were black would Kanye have reacted the way he did...just saying. If Beck were black, he wouldn't have won Album of the Year.
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Post by kanimal on Feb 10, 2015 13:35:02 GMT -5
If Beck were black would Kanye have reacted the way he did...just saying. Back in 2008, didn't he pre-emptively diss black AOTY winner Herbie Hancock in favor of himself and non-black Amy Winehouse?
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 10, 2015 14:29:56 GMT -5
If Beck were black would Kanye have reacted the way he did...just saying. Back in 2008, didn't he pre-emptively diss black AOTY winner Herbie Hancock in favor of himself and non-black Amy Winehouse? Yes. When accepting Best Rap Album earlier in the night, he said that only he and Amy deserved the award during his speech. He didn't call out Herbie specifically, but it's all the same. If we're going to bring race into this Beck/Kanye/Beyonce/Grammys issue, Kanye certainly isn't the main offender.
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Post by Unhinged on Feb 10, 2015 14:37:44 GMT -5
Kanye needs to sit his stupid f**king ass down. At some point, I guess in 2008, he started taking things way too seriously in regard to awards. You’re not a martyr, Kanye, for the creative process. If Beyoncé feels that she should have won the award, let her speak up for herself and get pissed off. Did she publicly do that? No, because she respects the decision process like the class act she is. Why does Kanye think he’s Beyoncé’s mouth piece? He’s so bloody irritating, which is unfortunate because underneath his vibrato is a rather talented artist, but all his other s**t just takes away from it all. He just needs to learn to keep his mouth shut but sadly it won’t happen. Megalomaniac.
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Post by newpower on Feb 10, 2015 15:22:37 GMT -5
With every Kanye controversy I just remember this South Park bit and how ridiculous he is becoming.
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Post by Wave. on Feb 10, 2015 15:34:44 GMT -5
I think Ms. Banks is worse. At least Ye can make a joke of himself, then make another joke of hisself again lol.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 10, 2015 15:43:31 GMT -5
I just read an interview with Ken Ehrlich who is the producer of the Grammy's and he never said the Grammy's pick what each artist performs. They collaborate with the artists/management. He tries his best to make it a smooth different memorable show. I believe he even mentioned an artist who didn't like the Grammy's idea at all so they all came up with something different. Anyways, I enjoyed this years show but there was to many ballads or midtempos. I didn't dislike anyone really but it was a little to slow in my opinion.
I don't want to pick on her but why did Ariana sing that? She could of just sang "One Last Time" like she did on Fallon to prove to the older audience that she can sing. Of all the Stevie Wonder songs why did Usher sing that. I'm not saying it was bad but it's not one of his most known songs and it's extremely slow and not all that eventful. If it was known it wouldn't matter. I think my favorite performances were Sia, Ed, Beyoncé and Madonna. I liked most of them but, again they could have used some more uptempo numbers. It was nice to see Jessie J there and she did a great job. The Rihanna/Kanye/Paul number was better than I expected. Kanye alone was better than I expected but Why????? Again the show wasn't bad at all but a little uneventful.
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Post by Wave. on Feb 10, 2015 15:47:01 GMT -5
I just read an interview with Ken Ehrlich who is the producer of the Grammy's and he never said the Grammy's pick what each artist performs. They collaborate with the artists/management. He tries his best to make it a smooth different memorable show. I believe he even mentioned an artist who didn't like the Grammy's idea at all so they all came up with something different. Anyways, I enjoyed this years show but there was to many ballads or midtempos. I didn't dislike anyone really but it was a little to slow in my opinion. I don't want to pick on her but why did Ariana sing that? She could of just sang "One Last Time" like she did on Fallon to prove to the older audience that she can sing. Of all the Stevie Wonder songs why did Usher sing that. I'm not saying it was bad but it's not one of his most known songs and it's extremely slow and not all that eventful. If it was known it wouldn't matter. I think my favorite performances were Sia, Ed, Beyoncé and Madonna. I liked most of them but, again they could have used some more uptempo numbers. It was nice to see Jessie J there and she did a great job. The Rihanna/Kanye/Paul number was better than I expected. Kanye alone was better than I expected but Why????? Again the show wasn't bad at all but a little uneventful. Where is that interview? I want to read it.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 10, 2015 15:49:31 GMT -5
I understand why Usher did the song that was chosen. They are doing a full special in dedication to Stevie. It was only a preview and you don't want a glaring omission of one of his more popular songs during the special.
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Post by esoteric76 on Feb 10, 2015 17:30:19 GMT -5
I think Ariana has a really great voice, but here's another time where her material failed her. I wish she'd work with Walter Afanasieff. I'm sure he's got a ton of unrecorded Mariah ballads that she could destroy.
Katy Perry gave my favorite performance of the night. She did the exact opposite of her Super Bowl performance and made people pay attention to a really pretty song. Brilliant choice.
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Post by Rican@ on Feb 10, 2015 19:02:25 GMT -5
I think Ariana has a really great voice, but here's another time where her material failed her. I wish she'd work with Walter Afanasieff. I'm sure he's got a ton of unrecorded Mariah ballads that she could destroy. And who is she going to market that too? I don't think people are raving/jumping for any 90s ballads right now. Her music is fine. She just needs to work on her stage presence, imo.
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 11, 2015 2:38:41 GMT -5
Maybe Ariana and her team thought that "Just..." is what Grammy audience would embrace but quite the opposite, they might have been ecstatic if she sang One Last Time/Break Free medley for example. Oh well, she has still broken through big time this year.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 11, 2015 12:26:56 GMT -5
I just read an interview with Ken Ehrlich who is the producer of the Grammy's and he never said the Grammy's pick what each artist performs. They collaborate with the artists/management. He tries his best to make it a smooth different memorable show. I believe he even mentioned an artist who didn't like the Grammy's idea at all so they all came up with something different. Anyways, I enjoyed this years show but there was to many ballads or midtempos. I didn't dislike anyone really but it was a little to slow in my opinion. I don't want to pick on her but why did Ariana sing that? She could of just sang "One Last Time" like she did on Fallon to prove to the older audience that she can sing. Of all the Stevie Wonder songs why did Usher sing that. I'm not saying it was bad but it's not one of his most known songs and it's extremely slow and not all that eventful. If it was known it wouldn't matter. I think my favorite performances were Sia, Ed, Beyoncé and Madonna. I liked most of them but, again they could have used some more uptempo numbers. It was nice to see Jessie J there and she did a great job. The Rihanna/Kanye/Paul number was better than I expected. Kanye alone was better than I expected but Why????? Again the show wasn't bad at all but a little uneventful. Where is that interview? I want to read it. I'm not sure if it's on line or not but it was from the Jan 24th Issue of Billboard Magazine. Mark Ronson was on the cover and they have a spread out 3 Page interview with Ken Ehrlich due to the Grammy's and him getting a Star on The Hollywood walk Of Fame.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 11, 2015 12:31:01 GMT -5
Maybe Ariana and her team thought that "Just..." is what Grammy audience would embrace but quite the opposite, they might have been ecstatic if she sang One Last Time/Break Free medley for example. Oh well, she has still broken through big time this year. I agree with you. I wish she would have done "One Last Time" similar to the way she did it on Fallon. It showed of her voice and she seemed comfortable on stage.
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Post by esoteric76 on Feb 11, 2015 12:35:29 GMT -5
I think Ariana has a really great voice, but here's another time where her material failed her. I wish she'd work with Walter Afanasieff. I'm sure he's got a ton of unrecorded Mariah ballads that she could destroy. And who is she going to market that too? I don't think people are raving/jumping for any 90s ballads right now. Her music is fine. She just needs to work on her stage presence, imo. I don't have a simple answer, but all I know is that I would buy it! (P.S. I realize i'm not exactly her target market, so whatever) Right now, the ballads she is singing are not worthy of the airtime.
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Post by trebor on Feb 11, 2015 12:44:42 GMT -5
Where is that interview? I want to read it. I'm not sure if it's on line or not but it was from the Jan 24th Issue of Billboard Magazine. Mark Ronson was on the cover and they have a spread out 3 Page interview with Ken Ehrlich due to the Grammy's and him getting a Star on The Hollywood walk Of Fame. {Ken Ehrlichs High Wire Act / BB / 01/24/15} HOW THE VETERAN PRODUCER — WHO’S FINALLY GETTING A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME — BOOKS THE MOST IMPORTANT MUSIC AWARDS SHOW ON TV KEN EHRLICH’S HIGH-WIRE ACT THE INVITATIONS KEN EHRLICH SENT out for the Jan. 28 unveiling of his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame make it clear he’s delighted by his neighbors. “John, Paul, George and Ringo are getting company,” reads the invite, designed in the shape of the Capitol Records Tower. Ehrlich clearly is thrilled with the location of his star on the Vine Street sidewalk. “All those early Capitol recordings would have a drawing of the tower on them and, from the time I was 10, that was the symbol of the record business and Hollywood,” says Ehrlich, who grew up in Cleveland and got his start in TV in Chicago. “When they told me I would be receiving a star, all I wanted was to be in front of the Capitol building. I’m steps away from the Beatles.” The star for Ehrlich, 71, will bear a TV set in honor of his 40-plus years producing TV shows, including the last 35 editions of the Grammy Awards. He is producing the show again this year — and has signed up for 2016 and ’17 — and also will be producing a Stevie Wonder tribute concert for CBS that will tape two days after the Grammys. “As a producer, Ken translates great music into great television,” says Neil Portnow, president/CEO of The Recording Academy. “The creative side of the show, the Grammy moments, are at the essence of what makes us stand out from others. Ken, as a student of music and historian in many ways, is great about bringing in terrific ideas and creating an environment to pull them off.” Ehrlich’s first major foray in music on TV was Soundstage, the PBS show he created and ran for four years before moving to Los Angeles in 1976. In L.A., he produced TV shows featuring the Bee Gees, Liza Minnelli and Wonder before joining the Grammy team for its 26th annual edition. Ehrlich became a grandfather for the first time in 2013. Before heading to Massachusetts for a family visit between Christmas and New Year’s Day, he already had 11 acts booked for this year’s Grammys, with another seven or eight slots to go. An opener hadn’t yet been determined. “Last year, I held it open because I was having a conversation with Beyoncé until about two weeks before the show,” Ehrlich says. “I had a few other things that would have worked. But when she came with that [performance idea for “Drunk in Love”] I thought, ‘Hey, we should do it.’ I had seen her show and knew it would be edgy. I didn’t know it would be that edgy.” In the temporary headquarters of AEG Ehrlich Ventures in Encino, Calif., which now has more than three dozen people working in it, Ehrlich explains his booking philosophy, how he selects openers and how one might top an onscreen wedding ceremony for 33 same-sex couples. Ratings have been strong during the last four years, with more than 25 million viewers tuning in each year. What informs your booking philosophy for the show? I would love to think that the first time a lot of people see a new artist is on our show. Our audience is more diverse and includes an awful lot of people who never see other awards shows. They want to see the validation of an artist’s achievement, which gives us a big responsibility. In 2014 you had 33 same-sex couples marry during the show, which was a rare moment in which the Grammys dove into an issue outside of music. Is there room for more issue- oriented presentations on the broadcast? [The marriage ceremony] really opened my eyes personally as to the power of the show. It gets a conversation going. We’ve tried to do things like it in the past, but never as successfully. It would be irresponsible of me to say that’s what this show is supposed to be about, but when there is an opportunity to get people to think about things, I think we should. We’ve had conversations with artists and they’re advancing a point of view [on social issues]. It’s no longer the network or The Recording Academy. We’re creating the platform for the artists.While you’re booking the show, what questions do you ask yourself? What do I have and what’s the appeal of what I have to certain audiences? What do I need to add to make it a balanced show, a more interesting show? Haven’t thought about [an opening] yet. I always sweat that. You’ve been able to get some intriguing performances out of artists who do a lot of slower material. Do you see a challenge this year in presenting Beck, Sam Smith and Hozier’s “Take Me to Church”? Beck is nominated for five Grammys [and] is a really interesting artist. I like this record a lot, but it’s hard to put on television. I met with his manager because I didn’t have a handle on what to do. By the end of the meeting we had two or three ideas. Are they deliverable? I don’t know. I don’t questionhis artistry or Sam Smith’s. I question my ability to have 28 million people say, “I want to stick around for this.” That’s important. How do you determine who goes solo and who gets paired with another artist? I like the idea of finding a common bond music-wise that speaks to different generations. I’ve got two or three this year that I suspect people under 25 won’t understand the motivation [for]. There are two or three acts I haven’t booked yet because I haven’t found the key to their performance. I don’t want to do the one hit. When you suggest something epic like the Macklemore & Ryan Lewis performance with Mary Lambert, how does the production get financed? It’s a combination of the labels and us. are times when it doesn’t come together just so. We’re dealing with one this year — the idea came from the artists and it’s a good idea — but the question is, will the label pay for it? Last year, the most elaborate set, by far, was for Daft Punk. Rob Stringer [chairman/ CEO of Columbia Records] and Sony spent more than any other act just in putting that recording studio onstage. It was a brilliant performance with the guys and Nile Rodgers and Stevie Wonder. I don’t think it would have been the same if we just put them onstage with some risers and lights. Can you pinpoint when Grammy performances became so production-oriented? When MTV came in with the
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Post by Wave. on Feb 11, 2015 13:19:54 GMT -5
Ken is 71?! Damn.
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