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Post by rbundy1987 on Sept 9, 2014 4:37:35 GMT -5
Billboard's RTT for Tuesday 9/9
Country No.1 Dustin Lynch Where It's At (Yep, Yep) +17991 Garth Brooks People Loving People
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Post by kml567 on Sept 9, 2014 7:20:51 GMT -5
Luke Bryan will be #1 in 2 weeks. It's now or never for Dustin's "Where It's At" to get that #1.
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Post by gurustu on Sept 9, 2014 14:53:46 GMT -5
Blah Blah Blah.... typical new country cliche summertime song with over used melody for the chorus I'd love to have a $1 for every song in publishers catalogs that use this melody. Song is awful compared to "Cowboys & Angels" (which was fantastic by the way and I don't think he'll ever top it). Hope for Country sake that this song doesn't do well. It'll appeal to the younger ladies because Dustin appeals to them, plus most of the younger female audience are the ones buying this cliche junk. But as for Country music there's nothing new or original hear, same crap different day.
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Post by jonathanalan on Sept 9, 2014 15:02:07 GMT -5
Blah Blah Blah.... typical new country cliche summertime song with over used melody for the chorus I'd love to have a $1 for every song in publishers catalogs that use this melody. Song is awful compared to "Cowboys & Angels" (which was fantastic by the way and I don't think he'll ever top it). Hope for Country sake that this song doesn't do well. It'll appeal to the younger ladies because Dustin appeals to them, plus most of the younger female audience are the ones buying this cliche junk. But as for Country music there's nothing new or original hear, same crap different day. Uhhh... lol, a little late.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 17:47:04 GMT -5
Hmm...it's actually going to be tough to call who will be #1 next week. It'll be a three-horse race between "Where It's At," which should be #2 MB/#1 BB this week, "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight," which should be #3 MB/#3 or #4 BB this week, and "Roller Coaster," which should be #4 MB/#3 or #4 BB this week. Dustin Lynch's single may actually end up with a Billboard-only #1 since Luke Bryan and Cole Swindell singles look just about to max out after one more week of gaining at the rate they have been on Mediabase. I think Warner Music Nashville may do a #1 push for Cole's single this week and Broken Bow will either fight hard just to keep Dustin Lynch at #1 on Mediabase until Sunday or not get a Mediabase #1 at all. Luke Bryan can't be contained for much longer and I can only imagine one more week maximum before his single gets to #1, so either Cole pushes now and Dustin is out of luck on Mediabase or Cole doesn't push now and ends up being blocked by Luke Bryan.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 14, 2014 21:03:33 GMT -5
Hmm...it's actually going to be tough to call who will be #1 next week. It'll be a three-horse race between "Where It's At," which should be #2 MB/#1 BB this week, "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight," which should be #3 MB/#3 or #4 BB this week, and "Roller Coaster," which should be #4 MB/#3 or #4 BB this week. Dustin Lynch's single may actually end up with a Billboard-only #1 since Luke Bryan and Cole Swindell singles look just about to max out after one more week of gaining at the rate they have been on Mediabase. I think Warner Music Nashville may do a #1 push for Cole's single this week and Broken Bow will either fight hard just to keep Dustin Lynch at #1 on Mediabase until Sunday or not get a Mediabase #1 at all. Luke Bryan can't be contained for much longer and I can only imagine one more week maximum before his single gets to #1, so either Cole pushes now and Dustin is out of luck on Mediabase or Cole doesn't push now and ends up being blocked by Luke Bryan. I fully expect an all out push this week to get Cole's song to #1. They missed out on "Chillin It" going number one on Billboard, so they don't want to go 0-2.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 23:40:19 GMT -5
I fully expect an all out push this week to get Cole's song to #1. They missed out on "Chillin It" going number one on Billboard, so they don't want to go 0-2. I don't disagree that WMN will push Cole pretty hard this week, but I doubt they care much that "Chillin' It" didn't top the Country Airplay chart. It got to #1 on the Mediabase radio chart and was also a #1 on BB's Hot Country Songs, so by most accounts it's a #1 hit. I (like you) prefer the BB airplay chart, but for the label's purposes, "Chillin' It" was a solid #1. I'm a little disappointed that Dustin will keep Kenny from a 2nd week at #1 on Billboard. It's really odd how it worked out. Dustin is still a full 200 spins and 800k behind Kenny on Mediabase, and yet he was #1 on the Billboard RTT all week. This is because Kenny held a lead of only 1.2 million on Monday's BB chart, whereas the 2 songs were separated by 2.4 million on the Monday Mediabase update. I think Columbia Nashville could've probably gotten a 2nd week at #1 pretty easily, but they decided to play nice instead. They might still call "American Kids" a 2-week #1, since it was #1 on Billboard for 1 week and #1 on Mediabase for the following week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 17:22:28 GMT -5
From Billboard:
Country Airplay *** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Where It's At (Yep, Yep)" Dustin Lynch Dustin Lynch collects his first Country Airplay No. 1, as "Where It's At (Yep, Yep)" jumps 3-1. Previously, Lynch came closest to the summit with "Cowboys and Angels," his debut single which peaked at No. 2 in October 2012. "Yep" is the lead single and title track from his second album, which was released Sept. 9 and will debut on this week's Top Country Albums chart.
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Post by jonathanalan on Sept 16, 2014 6:18:40 GMT -5
Way to go Dustin!
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 16, 2014 10:11:46 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of this song, but I do like it quite a bit. Just had to come in and say the "yep yep" part makes me laugh every time (in a good way). It's kind of cute.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 13:04:20 GMT -5
"Where It's At" is putting up some mad numbers this week, which is especially surprising for a song from a new artist when there are some huge names sitting in the top 5 right now. "At" has already reached 7986 spins on Mediabase, a higher spin total than any other song has achieved, and the single has a good probability of reaching 50 million audience impressions on Billboard Monday. Therefore, my previous prediction that Luke Bryan's "Roller Coaster" would knock "At" from #1 by Monday's BB chart is probably not going to happen, at least not if the Billboard numbers for the two songs in question are similar to the numbers they have been putting forth all week on the Mediabase chart, on which "At" is still close to 3 million AIs ahead of "Coaster" and has been putting up better numbers all week. While Broken Bow is succeeding in a relatively decent #1 push for the Dustin Lynch single this week, songs from Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan, and Florida Georgia Line have been having really slow weeks...simply because they're at insanely high levels to still be below #1. This is strange that the song struggling the least is the one currently at #1, though. I was expecting "At" to collapse and some of its airplay to be divided among "Lonely," "Coaster," and "Dirt" this week, not for the former to have steady gains and the latter three to hit the brakes.
"Where It's At" should get two weeks at #1 on Billboard. This does also increase the chances that "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" will get to #1 on Billboard (although I'm still betting against it) because radio programmers won't already see "Coaster" at #1 next week and so there will still be a chance for "Lonely" to get a big push and re-pass "Coaster" before it can get to #1, similarly to the way "I Hold On" received a big #1 push and re-passed "Doin' What She Likes" on both Mediabase and Billboard (which was due to Warner Music Nashville putting the brakes on Blake Shelton's single to allow WAR to push "Helluva Life" to #1 the week before).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 17:15:56 GMT -5
This is strange that the song struggling the least is the one currently at #1, though. I was expecting "At" to collapse and some of its airplay to be divided among "Lonely," "Coaster," and "Dirt" this week, not for the former to have steady gains and the latter three to hit the brakes. This is simply a classic case of the other labels all stepping back and playing nice. If Warner Bros. wanted to get Cole to #1 this week, or if Capitol wanted to get Luke there, they almost certainly could have. But I think Broken Bow made it clear from the get-go that they were going hard for a 2nd week at #1 on BB and a 1st week at #1 on MB, and so the other labels just decided to wait it out and let BBR/Dustin have their time under the spotlight. Last year around this same time the Billboard audience records were getting re-written almost every other week. Brett Eldredge's "Don't Ya" became the first song to eclipse 48 million on Billboard; he did so on the chart dated August 31, with a peak of 48.270 million. Two weeks later, on the September 14 chart, Keith Urban's "Little Bit Of Everything" fell just short of Brett's record with a peak of 48.049 million. Then on the October 12 chart, in its 2nd week at #1, Aldean's "Night Train" set the bar higher with a record 49.066 million. The next week, on the 10/19 chart, Billy's "Hey Girl" was #1 but with 'only' 46.561 million. Aldean had slipped to #2 (barely) with 46.417 million, and Tyler Farr was #3 with 46.099 million (this was the week "Redneck Crazy" was pushed to the Mediabase #1; its BB peak was #3). Thomas Rhett's "It Goes Like This" then broke Aldean's record; Rhett put up 49.343 million on the November 2 chart, and then hit 50.272 million on the November 9 chart (his 3rd week at #1). That 50.272 million total is the Billboard record which Dustin might be able to break tomorrow. (And of course Rhett's 3-week #1 was the one that kept "That's My Kind Of Night" from going #1 on Billboard). Blake's "Mine Would Be You" then spent 3 weeks at #1 after Thomas was done, but MWBY 'only' had a maximum of 47.210 million on the on the November 23 chart, the 2nd of his 3 weeks at #1. The audience numbers for the top songs dip just a little bit over the winter and spring months, so I'm not surprised that it's taken us 'til now for songs to really push the ceiling even further. Dustin is now up to 8112 spins at MB, and I suspect that will be his peak. I am guessing that we will see WIA start to fall in tomorrow morning's MB update, but it should easily get a 2nd week at #1 on tomorrow night's BB chart.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:15:57 GMT -5
Jhomes87, I definitely agree that both Warner Music Nashville and Capitol Nashville should have had no problem getting their singles to #1 if they did a big push this week, but my only area of uncertainty is what motive would a label have for playing nice with "Where It's At," especially in the case of "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" which will now almost certainly not get to #1 on Billboard after the dismal updates it has had this week. Capitol Nashville hasn't played even remotely nice with anyone since "That's My Kind of Night" was blocked from #1 by "It Goes Like This" last year. We've seen Capitol's team fight very hard to get their singles multiple weeks at #1 this year, especially with Luke Bryan singles, and they've blocked three songs from going to #1 even on Mediabase, so I'm wondering why they might have decided to let Broken Bow have this week at #1.
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Post by trustypepper on Sept 21, 2014 19:21:39 GMT -5
Congrats to Dustin on his first #1! I thought the song was decent when I first heard it but it's definitely grown on me a bit. Happy for him either way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:33:09 GMT -5
Jhomes87, I definitely agree that both Warner Music Nashville and Capitol Nashville should have had no problem getting their singles to #1 if they did a big push this week, but my only area of uncertainty is what motive would a label have for playing nice with "Where It's At," especially in the case of "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" which will now almost certainly not get to #1 on Billboard after the dismal updates it has had this week. Capitol Nashville hasn't played even remotely nice with anyone since "That's My Kind of Night" was blocked from #1 by "It Goes Like This" last year. We've seen Capitol's team fight very hard to get their singles multiple weeks at #1 this year, especially with Luke Bryan singles, and they've blocked three songs from going to #1 even on Mediabase, so I'm wondering why they might have decided to let Broken Bow have this week at #1. I think it just comes down to them not wanting to do battle here, when they really don't see a need. I admit I was surprised that Cole slowed down this week, as I agree his chances of getting to #1 are now less (but still possible), but Luke's slowdown didn't really surprise me. Here was a song (Roller Coaster) motoring along, gaining upwards of 800-900 spins recently and showing no signs of slowing down. They know this song is a huge hit and they know it's going to get to #1, so I don't think they cared much that Dustin and his team were pushing so hard this week. And trying to extend the life of a single as long as possible is what labels do these days, because you never know if the next one will be a hit. Luke is in a place where anything he releases will hit big, but Cole and Dustin aren't. Another reason labels keep singles going as long as possible is because a hit single is what keeps the artist's name out there, and if they can keep steady or keep gaining airplay, sales will remain steady as well. I've noticed that almost as soon as a song starts to decrease in airplay, its sales taper off as well. Generally labels play nice with each other the vast majority of the year, and radio plays nice with everybody as well. A couple recent cases went against the grain (Brad Paisley vs. Dierks Bentley and Tim McGraw vs. Dierks Bentley), but I suspect that, in those cases, the labels making the big pushes (Arista and Big Machine) felt that that was their best or perhaps only chance at getting to #1, although I do think Big Machine miscalculated with Tim's peak 'window'. Anyway, as far as I see it, the whole industry tries to present itself as one based on relationships, so I don't think any of the labels would find it in their best interest to deliberately block another song from #1. It happens, occasionally, but not all that often anymore. Most songs that get into the top 10 and top 5 find their way to #1 and both radio and record labels seem to be completely fine with that. I often like it when things shake out differently, especially if the bigger song winds up with multiple weeks at #1 and another song stalls out at #2 or #3, but that's mostly just because I'm tired of seeing a different song at #1 on Mediabase almost every Sunday.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 21, 2014 19:39:15 GMT -5
I never was a big fan of Dustin Lynch after his first album came out. In my opinion after they released "Cowboys And Angels" they could've picked better follow up singles. I wish they would've released "Waiting" as the second single and "Hurricane" as the final single. Not "She Cranks My Tractor" then "Wild In Your Smile". Now that his second album has come out I believe it is way better than his first album. To me there a lot of radio friendly songs on the second album. I'm hoping they release "Mind Reader", "Your Daddy's Boots" and "She Wants A Cowboy" as singles but honestly just about any of the songs could be hits.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 21, 2014 21:35:55 GMT -5
Good to see Dustin getting #1.
I think Dustin is touring with Luke and Cole early next week. It'd be awkward if one tries to block the other.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 22, 2014 14:20:28 GMT -5
Good to see Dustin getting #1. I think Dustin is touring with Luke and Cole early next week. It'd be awkward if one tries to block the other. Imagine the pranks Luke Bryan and Cole Swindell can play on Dustin Lynch. Brad Paisley would be proud. Anyway, I am glad Lynch got his first #1 and first multi week #1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 20:05:43 GMT -5
Dustin does indeed set a new Billboard audience record. "Where It's At" finishes with 50.282 million impressions, barely topping the old record of 50.272 million set by Thomas Rhett's "It Goes Like This" on the November 9, 2013 chart (Billboard incorrectly states it as November 29; the 29th was a Friday and Rhett was long on his way down the chart by then).
Like I expected, Dustin's high water mark came in yesterday's Mediabase update; today, WIA decreased by 41 spins and nearly 300k in audience.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 25, 2014 18:56:02 GMT -5
I'm really curious to see how Dustin's follow up single does. I think the fact that this song set such a high audience record is going to hurt his next single's chances. I'm wondering if he'll have a hard time escaping the shadow of Where It's At, or if he's going to be the next in line for B-list status. One thing I think he has going for him is the whole album is full of potential singles. Whatever he releases next should be friendly enough, but I think when you're not huge yet and you're following up such a huge hit, the second single choice is critical. Thomas Rhett made the right choice because Get Me Some Of That is arguably more catchy and memorable than It Goes Like This, but Jerrod Neiman (little bit different, but still similar enough scenario) has had a hard time following up.
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Post by zjames on Sept 25, 2014 18:59:24 GMT -5
I'm really curious to see how Dustin's follow up single does. I think the fact that this song set such a high audience record is going to hurt his next single's chances. I'm wondering if he'll have a hard time escaping the shadow of Where It's At, or if he's going to be the next in line for B-list status. One thing I think he has going for him is the whole album is full of potential singles. Whatever he releases next should be friendly enough, but I think when you're not huge yet and you're following up such a huge hit, the second single choice is critical. Thomas Rhett made the right choice because Get Me Some Of That is arguably more catchy and memorable than It Goes Like This, but Jerrod Neiman (little bit different, but still similar enough scenario) has had a hard time following up. I've been wondering the same thing. His album is very radio-friendly so he has a lot of choices. I'd say the top choices are "Mind Reader" and "Your Daddy's Boots". I think "Your Daddy's Boots" would be a great release for fall and winter and could become a "Cowboys and Angels"-type hit for him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 21:03:19 GMT -5
As big as "Where It's At" turned out to be, it's really hard to say if Dustin Lynch will get another big hit off his album. Country radio has, especially with newer artists, become really only interested in making a single or two per album into a big hit, and it's become very hard to sustain momentum three to four singles deep into an album. If the follow-up to "Where It's At" doesn't really resonate with listeners it may be in for a pretty slow climb up the charts. Plus, Dustin Lynch won't get the iHeartRadio On the Verge program to speed up the chart run of his next single, so we can already tack on a few extra weeks to the single's chart run.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 25, 2014 21:25:55 GMT -5
As big as "Where It's At" turned out to be, it's really hard to say if Dustin Lynch will get another big hit off his album. Country radio has, especially with newer artists, become really only interested in making a single or two per album into a big hit, and it's become very hard to sustain momentum three to four singles deep into an album. If the follow-up to "Where It's At" doesn't really resonate with listeners it may be in for a pretty slow climb up the charts. Plus, Dustin Lynch won't get the iHeartRadio On the Verge program to speed up the chart run of his next single, so we can already tack on a few extra weeks to the single's chart run. I agree. I'm a little surprised, because with the way the country market works right now, basically 2 singles only nowadays, I'm surprised more artists haven't just turned to releasing extended plays like Blake Shelton did a couple times, or even just release a 5-7 song EP every year, rather than the full album every 2 years, although I suppose that could significantly reduce sales a bit. I think the two choices for next single will be between Mind Reader and Your Daddy's Boots. Mind Reader is definitely the safer choice of the two, and would seem to be a guaranteed top 15 single, but Your Daddy's Boots seems like it could pay off more in the long run and have a good chance of becoming huge for him. Tough decision to make in the Lynch camp.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 21:56:18 GMT -5
It's very interesting following the secondary charts some times. Since those charts reflect airplay at smaller markets, the labels/artists don't really "brown nose" those little stations much at all, and therefore we don't really see any big pushes. Basically, the labels are taken out of the equation, and the charts are more 'natural'.
For example, "Where It's At" only peaked at #4 on the Billboard Indicator chart back on Monday, September 8. "American Kids" wound up getting 2 weeks at #1 there (8th & 15th) before "Roller Coaster" took over last week.
I haven't seen tonight's Billboard Indicator chart yet, but going off of last week's, it looks as if "Roller Coaster" will either repeat at #1, or "Dirt" will pass it and move to #1. Cole Swindell moved up to #3 last week Monday but lost his bullet.
The secondary charts still generally look like the main Billboard chart (last Monday the 7-10 spots were Miranda/Carrie, Brantley, Chase, and LBT) with the exception of the top 5. But since record labels don't focus on the small stations, most of the newer artists don't make it to #1, and instead we see the "truer" big hit songs (American Kids, Bartender) sometimes spend two, three, or even 4 weeks at #1. Multi-week #1's are still very common on the secondary charts.
It's just really 'interesting' (for lack of a better word) because the vast majority of the time, a song like "Where It's At" or "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" won't come anywhere near #1 on the indicator chart, and it'll start to fall 2 or even 3 weeks before it begins falling on the main chart, with the reason being that, on the main Billboard chart, the labels step in and get the slower-climbing new artists a few more weeks' worth of airplay before they have the chance to falter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 22:08:28 GMT -5
It's very interesting following the secondary charts some times. Since those charts reflect airplay at smaller markets, the labels/artists don't really "brown nose" those little stations much at all, and therefore we don't really see any big pushes. Basically, the labels are taken out of the equation, and the charts are more 'natural'. For example, "Where It's At" only peaked at #4 on the Billboard Indicator chart back on Monday, September 8. "American Kids" wound up getting 2 weeks at #1 there (8th & 15th) before "Roller Coaster" took over last week. I haven't seen tonight's Billboard Indicator chart yet, but going off of last week's, it looks as if "Roller Coaster" will either repeat at #1, or "Dirt" will pass it and move to #1. Cole Swindell moved up to #3 last week Monday but lost his bullet. The secondary charts still generally look like the main Billboard chart (last Monday the 7-10 spots were Miranda/Carrie, Brantley, Chase, and LBT) with the exception of the top 5. But since record labels don't focus on the small stations, most of the newer artists don't make it to #1, and instead we see the "truer" big hit songs (American Kids, Bartender) sometimes spend two, three, or even 4 weeks at #1. Multi-week #1's are still very common on the secondary charts. It's just really 'interesting' (for lack of a better word) because the vast majority of the time, a song like "Where It's At" or "Hope You Get Lonely Tonight" won't come anywhere near #1 on the indicator chart, and it'll start to fall 2 or even 3 weeks before it begins falling on the main chart, with the reason being that, on the main Billboard chart, the labels step in and get the slower-climbing new artists a few more weeks' worth of airplay before they have the chance to falter. I always look at the indicator chart because I know it is more free of stinky corporation and may give a better view of radio country. FWIW, "Roller Coaster" is #1 again and Cole is 3 or 4, I can't remember. The biggest shocker (or not, all things considered) is that "Like a Cowboy" is at 24, about 10 spots ahead of the Country Corporate, er I mean, the Country Airplay chart.
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Post by trustypepper on Sept 30, 2014 8:20:55 GMT -5
Can anyone briefly explain the Country Indicator chart to me? I always see it included in Billboard's Country Updates but I've never really understood it...any help?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 30, 2014 10:24:40 GMT -5
Can anyone briefly explain the Country Indicator chart to me? I always see it included in Billboard's Country Updates but I've never really understood it...any help? The Indicator chart monitors smaller stations around the country. Usually stations in smaller town and such. It's a good chart (along with the Mediabase activator chart) to break in under the radar artist who are on small independent labels. It's also not "manipulated" or have any major pushes from record labels so the songs end up having a more natural peak like jhomes87 mentioned up thread.
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Post by trebor on Oct 3, 2014 10:47:36 GMT -5
This week Dustin Lynch's: "Where It's At (Yep, Yep)" is removed from Radio Singles (formerly: Hot 100 Airplay) where he held last week's position 17 (!) and relegated to recurrent status (since it moves to recurrent on the Hot 100). This is the harshest exclusion from such a lofty height this year.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Oct 3, 2014 10:58:55 GMT -5
This week Justin Lynch's: "Where It's At (Yep, Yep)" is removed from Radio Singles (formerly: Hot 100 Airplay) where he held last week's position 17 (!) and relegated to recurrent status (since it moves to recurrent on the Hot 100). This is the harshest exclusion from such a lofty height this year. You mean Dustin? ;)
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Post by trebor on Oct 3, 2014 13:25:10 GMT -5
Oops! Thanks for pointing this out :) Post has been corrected
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