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Post by josh on Mar 14, 2014 14:52:35 GMT -5
DJWS has confirmed he is working with her on her new album.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 14, 2014 14:53:09 GMT -5
We can probably just combine both threads
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Post by josh on Mar 14, 2014 14:54:06 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 14, 2014 15:24:46 GMT -5
You did get all of the threads for every track from Artpop!
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Post by josh on Mar 14, 2014 15:28:03 GMT -5
You did get all of the threads for every track from Artpop! Except for "Applause" and the album thread. But I will for ARTPOP part 2. ;)
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 14, 2014 15:31:04 GMT -5
Can we at least change this thread to Lady Gaga - ARTPOP (Pt. 2). That's my OCD for you...lol
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Post by dbhmr on Mar 14, 2014 15:54:55 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 14, 2014 15:59:26 GMT -5
Yeah I smell a #disastuh
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Mar 14, 2014 16:01:30 GMT -5
We haven't even heard a single song from the second part and you already think that? ???
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Post by getonthebus on Mar 14, 2014 16:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by josh on Mar 14, 2014 16:12:38 GMT -5
Looks like Men In Black.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Mar 14, 2014 16:16:50 GMT -5
Which could tie in with it possibly being "Venus". Or it could be a long form video with multiple songs and sequences.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 14, 2014 16:23:29 GMT -5
I wonder if it is a longform video again that has multiple Artpop songs and then that will be the closer before a new era later this year. Sort of like Tropico for Lana. I guess it doesn't matter-we will know soon!
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 14, 2014 16:28:08 GMT -5
But so...ARTPOP Pt. 2 but the video is supposedly G.U.Y. and Venus?
*Also, not sure if this was covered but apparently the Swine-puke scenario was intended as a symbol of rape. Gaga & the other woman on the mechanical bull, dry-humping/having sex and the vomit being the "finish" - the unwanted bodily fluids on Gaga. She continued the performance with the remains of the vomit over her body to represent herself as a survivor of rape.
Not sure if you all buy it but I actually think it's one of the more clever and coherent cases of Gaga's (attempted) symbolism. I'm into it.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 14, 2014 16:36:43 GMT -5
Too bad most people will refuse to consider that as a possibility because they don't want to be made to think by a "pop star".
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 14, 2014 16:37:42 GMT -5
We haven't even heard a single song from the second part and you already think that? ??? The tone she set with the "performance" last night leads me to think exactly that, yes.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 14, 2014 16:52:35 GMT -5
If you don't like it, go somewhere else pls. Thanks, bye.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 14, 2014 16:53:08 GMT -5
Yeah I mean, I might love the music, but I am not getting Gaga prancing around in cute but futuristic clothing singing a dance-pop song about dancing and having fun vibes. Which is apparently what people want? I wouldn't be surprised if we see a similar under-performer here. It might be a really awesome under-performer though. This is the most I have seen Gaga talked about since like...well, flop talk last year.
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 14, 2014 16:57:15 GMT -5
Perhaps Gaga simply isn't going for huge commercial success anymore. She has always seemed fairly conflicted in that department - her music post-TFM hasn't been particularly commercial and she has said many times that it's really all about the music/fans/art. On the flip side, she constantly tweets about requesting her songs on the radio, buying them on iTunes, etc. But maybe the slightly-more-extreme underperformance of ARTPOP told her she might as well stop trying to bridge the gap between her artistic goals and mainstream radio/etc - if she can only have artistic integrity or commercial success, it's clear which one she'd gravitate towards.
We shall see.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 14, 2014 17:02:19 GMT -5
She was probably feeling pressure to get success and sales from the label and went to social media out of desperation and frustration not realizing how bad they made her look. Or maybe it's a recent realization that she wants out of the pop world.
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Post by ILLUSION on Mar 14, 2014 17:17:04 GMT -5
I wonder if it is a longform video again that has multiple Artpop songs and then that will be the closer before a new era later this year. Sort of like Tropico for Lana. I guess it doesn't matter-we will know soon! Judging from the leaked videos we have seen, I think this is more or less of what the video is. Maybe a final "end" to ARTPOP Pt. 1 and a move on to ARTPOP Pt. 2.
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Post by dbhmr on Mar 14, 2014 17:18:58 GMT -5
Too bad most people will refuse to consider that as a possibility because they don't want to be made to think by a "pop star". What is this new anti-pop star rhetoric from the Gaga stan squad all about? Lady Gaga's whole approach is that pop music can be interesting and that pop stars don't have to be drones. Her album is called ARTPOP, and she's been singing about the popstar limelight since...always. She's carried the torch for pop music in a huge way, juggling more complex messages and melodies with ones as easy to swallow and sing along to as the next Katy Perry single. That she struggled this era, has posted some seriously unhinged s**t onto social media, and successfully riled up the blogosphere with a grotesque music festival performance hardly makes her the anti-pop star (unless you mean the Avril Lavigne kind). She's the one who made all this whacky pop star shit cool for this generation again. It just isn't landing right now. The effort hasn't changed, just the execution. This doesn't make her some kind of indie artist struggling to make her way into a bleak and bland pop landscape--she's just struggling to find her footing in a landscape she actually helped shape.
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Post by no apologist on Mar 14, 2014 17:43:45 GMT -5
I hope it's something I can twerk to.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 14, 2014 17:49:13 GMT -5
Too bad most people will refuse to consider that as a possibility because they don't want to be made to think by a "pop star". What is this new anti-pop star rhetoric from the Gaga stan squad all about? Lady Gaga's whole approach is that pop music can be interesting and that pop stars don't have to be drones. Her album is called ARTPOP, and she's been singing about the popstar limelight since...always. She's carried the torch for pop music in a huge way, juggling more complex messages and melodies with ones as easy to swallow and sing along to as the next Katy Perry single. That she struggled this era, has posted some seriously unhinged s**t onto social media, and successfully riled up the blogosphere with a grotesque music festival performance hardly makes her the anti-pop star (unless you mean the Avril Lavigne kind). She's the one who made all this whacky pop star s**t cool for this generation again. It just isn't landing right now. The effort hasn't changed, just the execution. This doesn't make her some kind of indie artist struggling to make her way into a bleak and bland pop landscape--she's just struggling to find her footing in a landscape she actually helped shape. I put "pop star" in quotes because that's what people call her and essentially what she is but because of that label, she's limited to what her output is because people associate pop stars as being shallow and without a message. So when one does have something to say or presents something that isn't expected of a pop star, people refuse to see it that way because they don't want to be challenged by someone as lowly as a pop music singer. Which is essentially what you said regarding her approach, but a lot of people refuse to entertain that perspective.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 14, 2014 17:49:54 GMT -5
My friend told me she got puked on twice. Okay LOL! She said at the end of the day that it felt like a cathartic moment for her. SXSW isn't just for the typical hipster. It's for literally everybody of every genre. From film, to electronics, to music. It's a huge social gathering with many surprises and secrets untold. I saw Janelle Monae get wheelchaired down to her show on 4th St. Unlike other festivals that are relegated to one area the whole city becomes the festival arena. Everybody should experience it at least once in their life.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 14, 2014 17:57:20 GMT -5
Gaga helped shape the pop world with her first two cds, but she hasn't been acting like a good little pop star for the last two cd eras or hell, even part of the last three. I don't think she is interested in being a perfect mainstream pop star anymore and as she gets more and more control over her career we are seeing that more and more. It has been consistently frustrating as a fan that she won't just BEHAVE. Sit down. Shut up. Sing happy pop songs. Dance cutesy dances while looking hot. Put on cutesy clothing. Giggle on twitter. NEVER talk about art or anything serious. Work with Dr. Luke/Max Martin. Rinse and repeat for several cds. But I am starting to realize that that isn't going to happen-it hasn't happened perfectly since The Fame (even Fame Monster started to get weird-Alejandro, even the 10 minute Telephone were starting to go off track from what people "expect" from a good little behaving pop star). Ultimately, I think she just isn't interested in being what we expect from a pop star, at least not completely, which has emerged to some extent more and more from Fame Monster culminating in last night's performance. So, fans have to decide whether to drop her (which, a lot will) or just realize Fame Gaga is gone. I do think she is torn herself at times about what she wants, but I can't see her just morphing into Katy Perry at any point.
I am personally here until the music sucks which, for me, it hasn't yet. She can puke all over whatever she wants or be puked on as much as she wants as long as she keeps delivering me music at least on par with Artpop and Born This Way.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 14, 2014 18:23:23 GMT -5
Give it to me Gaga!!
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Post by dzjx on Mar 14, 2014 19:24:19 GMT -5
I think she wants huge commercial success, but with something different that she created or at least spearheaded. Doesn't want to follow the trends but make people follow her trends.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 19:32:00 GMT -5
If ARTPOP 2.0 has great music, a good amount of singles, and a video for each of the singles, then I'll be happy. I just don't want to ever... ever, ever, ever, see again.
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Post by danny565 on Mar 14, 2014 20:00:59 GMT -5
Too bad most people will refuse to consider that as a possibility because they don't want to be made to think by a "pop star". What is this new anti-pop star rhetoric from the Gaga stan squad all about? Lady Gaga's whole approach is that pop music can be interesting and that pop stars don't have to be drones. Her album is called ARTPOP, and she's been singing about the popstar limelight since...always. She's carried the torch for pop music in a huge way, juggling more complex messages and melodies with ones as easy to swallow and sing along to as the next Katy Perry single. That she struggled this era, has posted some seriously unhinged s**t onto social media, and successfully riled up the blogosphere with a grotesque music festival performance hardly makes her the anti-pop star (unless you mean the Avril Lavigne kind). She's the one who made all this whacky pop star s**t cool for this generation again. It just isn't landing right now. The effort hasn't changed, just the execution. This doesn't make her some kind of indie artist struggling to make her way into a bleak and bland pop landscape--she's just struggling to find her footing in a landscape she actually helped shape. Exactly. I'm utterly perplexed by this talk that Gaga is flopping because she isn't mainstream or pop-friendly enough. I mean, let's be real here, this is the woman who rose to fame on songs built around choruses with the same one line looped over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I loved those songs as much as anyone back in the day -- they were good, escapist, throwaway pop fun. But, aside from the occasional outfit, there was never anything remotely groundbreaking about her work. Not by a longshot. Artpop didn't flop because it was too edgy for mainstream pop audiences. It was exactly the same type of stuff as the safe, mainstream music she did at the beginning of her career, except just not half as good. That's the reason she's flopping, as well as her personality alienating people, precisely because she acts like her songs are revolutionising music when they're anything but. If you're going to talk as egotistically as Kanye West, you'd better atleast bring something vaguely left-field, not a bunch of songs about sex and partying that are just as shallow and throwaway as any Katy Perry or Rihanna song (except less melodic/catchy).
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