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Post by Kris on Apr 8, 2014 22:44:53 GMT -5
Is it really considered stealing nowadays for music? I'd never download movies, but I feel like music is so available on the internet/music programs nowadays that its hardly deemed theft when there's so many "legal" ways to do it. edit: I did some research and what's considered illegal in the USA is not considered illegal here, in fact there's a lot of points that music deemed for recreational or personal use is not considered illegal at all, as long as it is not being sold for profit. Dunno how the law works in the states but I don't recall ever hearing on television or any news station that personal use is punishable. So take that NSA. (I actually had to lookup what the NSA does because I'd only vaguely heard of them ) edit2: I was actually in Target today (RIP Zellers) and I now that people mention it there was only one double shelf with CDs on it.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 10:24:02 GMT -5
I've been meaning to come back to this topic.
I go to 2-3 Walmarts in the Buffalo area.
The shelf space for CDs has stayed the same since this article was published.
Has anyone seen a major difference at their Walmart?
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Post by imbondz on Oct 15, 2014 10:28:23 GMT -5
ha you're from Buffalo? I'm from Rochester, Geneseo to be exact!
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 15, 2014 10:41:39 GMT -5
I've been meaning to come back to this topic. I go to 2-3 Walmarts in the Buffalo area. The shelf space for CDs has stayed the same since this article was published. Has anyone seen a major difference at their Walmart? The CD section used to be the first section you'd reach when walking to the entertainment center at my local Wal-Mart. They have since moved it to the back corner of that section, and cut the shelf space by at least half.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 15, 2014 11:17:29 GMT -5
Wal Mart's CD selection suck. I don't even bother. What's the point?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 11:36:16 GMT -5
Wal Mart's CD selection suck. I don't even bother. What's the point? Album sales in Canada are truly awful.
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 15, 2014 13:24:22 GMT -5
Wal Mart's CD selection suck. I don't even bother. What's the point? In a majority of small towns, Wal-Mart is the only place to buy a CD outside of the internet.
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Post by George on Oct 15, 2014 14:44:12 GMT -5
And they STILL refuse to sell unedited music. Finally saw the first explicit CD in their stores this year: Sky Ferreira's "Night Time My Time"
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 15, 2014 15:03:44 GMT -5
And they STILL refuse to sell unedited music. Finally saw the first explicit CD in their stores this year: Sky Ferreira's "Night Time My Time" I'm sure that's a mistake. Wal-Mart has never rescinded their policy of only selling edited CDs, even though they also sell R-rated movies in the same section. Here's an interesting article about it from back in 1996. Notice that in 1995, Wal-Mart alone sold over 52 million CDs in their stores that year. (Out of 615 million total! The good old days.) www.nytimes.com/1996/11/12/arts/wal-mart-s-cd-standards-are-changing-pop-music.html
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 15, 2014 15:42:08 GMT -5
Wal Mart's CD selection suck. I don't even bother. What's the point? Album sales in Canada are truly awful. Proportionately you mean?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 15:44:29 GMT -5
^Are they proportionate to the US?
When I (rarely) see what's #1 in Canada, It's only 5-7k.
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Post by maine on Oct 15, 2014 15:52:49 GMT -5
I've been meaning to come back to this topic. I go to 2-3 Walmarts in the Buffalo area. The shelf space for CDs has stayed the same since this article was published. Has anyone seen a major difference at their Walmart? I tend to avoid Wal-Mart at all costs lol. Mine is really trashy (as a lot of other people's are too). From what I remember, at mine the CDs are all the way in the back of the store, and the selection is not very big. I really don't remember them being all that big though.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 16:02:29 GMT -5
^Well, yes. Walmart is evil.
But, I stop in and check out what's available.
All the ones I've been to in the past few months, the cds are well stocked.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 15, 2014 16:58:42 GMT -5
^Are they proportionate to the US? When I (rarely) see what's #1 in Canada, It's only 5-7k. Which would be approximately equivalent to 50-70k US. A bit lower than average I guess. I don't know how the rest of the chart stacks up though.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 15, 2014 17:03:11 GMT -5
The section was crap anyways.
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Post by imbondz on Oct 15, 2014 17:08:42 GMT -5
I was in Target yesterday and couldn't believe how small the music section was, they definitely trimmed their selection over the past year.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 18:36:21 GMT -5
I was in Target yesterday and couldn't believe how small the music section was, they definitely trimmed their selection over the past year. My Targets sections have stayed the same. One store's music section is a disaster. The other's is very well stocked and organized. I told the music section worker what a good job she was doing. She said thanks. No one in management ever thanked her. PS: I grew up in Attica. 45 minutes or so from Geneseo.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 15, 2014 18:43:30 GMT -5
I've been meaning to come back to this topic. I go to 2-3 Walmarts in the Buffalo area. The shelf space for CDs has stayed the same since this article was published. Has anyone seen a major difference at their Walmart? The Wal-Mart in my hometown cut their selection in half this summer. I used to buy a lot of CD's from them in high school, but these days I try to avoid both Wal-Mart and my hometown at all costs unless I have no other choice. Plus even I, someone who has a fairly large CD collection (compared to your average person), buys a lot less than I used to, so it doesn't really bother or surprise me.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 15, 2014 18:43:31 GMT -5
I'm seriously crying tears of WTF. SMH.
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 15, 2014 19:20:29 GMT -5
I'm am seriously crying tears of WTF. SMH. The thrill of going to the store for new music every Tuesday is seriously gone; I've resorted to pretty much ordering online every week now because I have to spend so much time figuring out who exactly is carrying what and for how much anyway.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 15, 2014 19:33:33 GMT -5
^And when you order cds/vinyl online, sometimes it shows up at your mail box before the street date.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Oct 16, 2014 0:36:42 GMT -5
I was in Target yesterday and couldn't believe how small the music section was, they definitely trimmed their selection over the past year. The Target store near my home and work has only about 80 to 100 unique album titles for sale now. It's ridiculous. About half of them are those 3 disc box sets featuring classics and hits of the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and then the next quarter consists of TV and movie soundtracks. The remaining quarter is current albums, most of which are the Target exclusive editions. I have ordered albums from Target's website to be shipped to me only to have them never ever show up (a few of the times it was mail theft, but other times it was a case of it being backordered but their system messed up and it said shipped and the order was closed and then they won't send it to me so I have to get a refund). It makes no sense to have a Target exclusive edition that you cannot even buy there in the store or online. The other Targets nearby have a larger selection but its dwindling. The Best Buy stores here are carrying even less. I prefer ordering from them if I have to, but their prices are higher sometimes. Amazon has the best selection but again, issues with the orders being delivered and stolen.
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Post by divasummer on Oct 17, 2014 11:47:46 GMT -5
My Best Buy has got rid of a lot of their cd section and it's always a mess. Thank you to Newbury Comics which is still trying to be faithful to cd's. I usually go to them to purchase a cd even though their a couple dollars more than Best Buy or Target.
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Post by grandelf on Feb 20, 2015 3:26:23 GMT -5
Kind of related... www.billboard.com/articles/6479986/starbucks-stop-selling-musicStarbucks to Stop Selling CDsBy Shirley Halperin and Ed Christman | February 19, 2015 9:44 PM EST Starbucks, the coffee giant with over 21,000 retail stores throughout the world, will stop stocking and selling physical compact discs, Billboard has confirmed, with the CD clean-out due to start next month. "We will stop selling physical CDs in our stores at the end of March," a rep for the Seattle-based company tells Billboard, adding: "Starbucks continually seeks to redefine the experience in our retail stores to meet the evolving needs of our customers. Music will remain a key component of our coffeehouse and retail experience, however we will continue to evolve the format of our music offerings to ensure we're offering relevant options for our customers. As a leader in music curation, we will continue to strive to select unique and compelling artists from a broad range of genres we think will resonate with our customers." The decision follows a tough environment for the format, which saw a sales decline of 15 percent in 2014. Music has been one of the few items offered at Starbucks stores that didn't have to do with coffee, tea or food, the chain's main revenue streams, and was often at the center of various programs and cultural initiatives. Starbucks' investment in music began when the company acquired the music retailer Hear Music. With the aim of compiling collections to spur music discovery, the wholly-owned subsidiary was first staffed with Starbucks employees in 1999 and saw significant growth over the next five years. Indeed, a Billboard article from 2006 cites annual album sales of 3.6 million units or approximately $65 million in music revenue. That same year, Starbucks announced a partnership with William Morris to help identify music to feature in their stores. To support the 20 or fewer titles the chain would stock regularly, Hear Music also hosted several performance series based around the coffeehouse singer-songwriter concept and launched a Sirius XM station to play Starbucks-friendy tunes. Around the mid-aughts, and with much fanfare, Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz boasted of a slew of exclusive music releases in partnership with Concord Music Group, including albums by Paul McCartney, Joni Mitchell and Alanis Morissette, whose Jagged Little Pill acoustic album was initially sold only in Starbucks stores to mark the breakout record's 10th anniversary in 2005. Among the albums that Starbucks has given prime positioning to in recent months were: Taylor Swift's 1989, the Frozen soundtrack and a jazz compilation called Blue Note Blends, released as recently as Feb. 10. In one interview with Fast Company from 2004, Schultz noted of Starbucks' jump into music: "The nature of shopping for a CD or a piece of music at a traditional record store is, at its best, a very poor consumer experience. ... The Starbucks customer [who] might want to find a Diana Krall album, a Tony Bennett album, or anything that was not being played on the radio, well, they would have a hard time going into Tower Records. Maybe they'd find the album there, but they could not find someone who could talk to them about it. That consumer has disposable income and has had a long history of buying and enjoying music, but they have nowhere to go." Other music offerings at Starbucks included themed compilations (like their long-running holiday album series) and single-song downloads, the latter of which are offered via promotional cards that are expected to continue. Digital music will have a presence in the stores of Starbucks' future, but in what form, sources don't yet know.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 20, 2015 9:16:13 GMT -5
That's surprising to me, considering they have been a fairly significant chunk of the CD market. I mean, they were only stocking 4 or 5 titles at a time anyway, but those titles did see some pretty decent movement from Starbucks outlets.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 20, 2015 16:35:02 GMT -5
I'm still a CD buyer. If I want to buy just a song or two, I'll buy it off of iTunes, but if I ever want to buy an artist's album, I'll buy the physical CD from the store. I still enjoy being able to have an actual physical copy for my collection, but I usually buy my CDs from Target.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 20, 2015 18:51:56 GMT -5
Crushed about Starbucks taking its physical CD section away. I rarely drink coffee anymore, but still always get Starbucks gift cards for holidays, so I always use the gift cards to buy any albums that they've got out on their racks.
This sucks. </3 At least I'll always have Amazon Prime.
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 20, 2015 19:41:15 GMT -5
Not surprised. My local Walmart's CD aisle has been DECIMATED in recent years. It used to be huge!
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Post by Mack on Feb 21, 2015 1:21:48 GMT -5
Not surprised. My local Walmart's CD aisle has been DECIMATED in recent years. It used to be huge! Yeah, my local Walmart used to have 2 or 3 aisles of CD's, and now they just have one tiny rack. And the albums in it are always out of order and mixed up.
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Post by funkpunkandroll on Feb 21, 2015 9:48:40 GMT -5
Lol stores are a hot mess. They forget music is the #1 reason why some even come to their stores. They better rethink their decisions lol
Starbucks selling CD's was unusual in the first place.
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