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Post by zbbgoboysgo on May 17, 2014 14:33:20 GMT -5
WHDG 97.3 Hodag Country in Rhinelander, WI
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Post by onebuffalo on May 17, 2014 14:40:57 GMT -5
WHDG 97.3 Hodag Country in Rhinelander, WI I do not find that station on the MediaBase list of those stations monitored by them. Do you get anything out of Green Bay?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 19:22:38 GMT -5
As for "All Alright", it sits at #37 on Mediabase this week with a healthy bullet of 223 and is in Billboard's top 40 today as well. It's only been at radio for a couple weeks, so it still has almost it's entire chart run ahead of it. No worries right now about this song or ZBB. I don't think I share your optimism. If this were a new artist, sure, I would agree that it is doing just fine (even good). But it's daily gains have been largely in the 200k range for the last 7-10 days or so, and its 7-day bullet of 224 isn't exactly a burning-up-the-chart pace. Brantley's new one did get a bit of Clear Channel help (only at the start of the week though), but radio is still taking to that one much more quickly, as it gains 800k today and is already more than 2.5 million ahead in MB audience (despite still trailing in chart position). I think this ZBB song is really going to struggle. They've always had a different sound to their music but this one just seems to be in such stark contrast to the rest of the "country" music on today's "country" radio. Unfortunately, I think anything bro-country or summer-themed will probably blow past a song like this, and that's why I was so surprised a few weeks back when a couple people thought it could debut in the top 20. A lot of times I don't agree with others predictions but in this case I was just so stunned, as those predictions were so far removed from my own thoughts on how this one would do. I wouldn't be surprised to see it take 10 or more chart weeks to crack the Billboard top 20.
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Post by sabre14 on May 17, 2014 22:36:05 GMT -5
As for "All Alright", it sits at #37 on Mediabase this week with a healthy bullet of 223 and is in Billboard's top 40 today as well. It's only been at radio for a couple weeks, so it still has almost it's entire chart run ahead of it. No worries right now about this song or ZBB. I don't think I share your optimism. If this were a new artist, sure, I would agree that it is doing just fine (even good). But it's daily gains have been largely in the 200k range for the last 7-10 days or so, and its 7-day bullet of 224 isn't exactly a burning-up-the-chart pace. Brantley's new one did get a bit of Clear Channel help (only at the start of the week though), but radio is still taking to that one much more quickly, as it gains 800k today and is already more than 2.5 million ahead in MB audience (despite still trailing in chart position). I think this ZBB song is really going to struggle. They've always had a different sound to their music but this one just seems to be in such stark contrast to the rest of the "country" music on today's "country" radio. Unfortunately, I think anything bro-country or summer-themed will probably blow past a song like this, and that's why I was so surprised a few weeks back when a couple people thought it could debut in the top 20. A lot of times I don't agree with others predictions but in this case I was just so stunned, as those predictions were so far removed from my own thoughts on how this one would do. I wouldn't be surprised to see it take 10 or more chart weeks to crack the Billboard top 20. I actually agree with you're reasoning on why this song won't do as well as their other songs. The summertime factor is a very real factor that I never underestimate. Plus the fact this is so different from other songs on the chart will play a factor as well. Though I still believe that "All Alright" can make the top 10. My prediction is somewhere between 8 and 11. This song wasn't a brand new debut from a ordinary record, it's off their Grohl Sessions EP which was already out to the public. Kind of a unique situation when it comes to a "lead single" which it is, yet it's not as brand new as say "The Wind" was when it got it's hourly treatment. The gains while not burning things up are fast and steady enough for me to hold out some optimism. I'm not predicting another #1, nor am I predicting a top 5, but a top 10 finish while not ultra likely is a real possibility to me. It still has plenty of life left in it which is what I tried pointing out to zbbgoboysgo. :)
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 18, 2014 16:09:01 GMT -5
Any idea why they edited out the guitar solo for the radio edit? Wanted to keep it under 4 minutes? Too "out there"?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 18:47:30 GMT -5
Any idea why they edited out the guitar solo for the radio edit? Wanted to keep it under 4 minutes? Too "out there"? Probably based on the Rate The Music survey. About 3 weeks before this was shipped to radio, I posted in the Upcoming Singles thread that there was a ZBB special music survey, and it was only this song but 2 versions of it: one with the solo, one without.
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Post by dm2081 on May 30, 2014 20:06:47 GMT -5
I'm absolutely loving this song, it's become one of my favorites for the whole year so far. However, I'm getting concerned with their lack of digital sales lately. This song is currently at #145 on the iTunes Country chart, not even the all genre chart. I know it's not really a lead single, and it's mostly an experimental song with lots of rock attitude and sound to it, but still, this is ZBB were talking about. They should release a radio edit version of this song to iTunes in order to increase the sales and get some more publicity.
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Post by zjames on May 30, 2014 21:04:14 GMT -5
I heard this on the radio for the first time today, and it sounds great. Even without the great instrumental part, "All Alright" sounds so refreshing.
I've noticed the poor sales as well. It only reached the top 200 iTunes country songs this week, but hopefully it will sell better as airplay increases.
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Post by Markus Meyer on May 31, 2014 3:27:53 GMT -5
Personally I love the song, but from a business standpoint I feel this was the wrong move releasing it to radio. I'm not sure it'll even go top 10.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 4:02:47 GMT -5
Personally I love the song, but from a business standpoint I feel this was the wrong move releasing it to radio. I'm not sure it'll even go top 10. I don't know if I see it going top 10 either, but I also like it quite a bit. I feel like, regarding country radio, they don't have a ton of momentum even though 13 of 14 releases prior to this all went #2 or #1 (with the exception being the #11 peak for "The Wind"). But outside of country radio, their tours are still doing well, and they don't tour like a lot of other artists. They don't have popular radio up-and-comers as opening acts, and just the overall feel of a ZBB show is much different than the typical country show (at least in my experience). Their digital sales have been declining steadily since the 1-2 punch of "Colder Weather" and "Knee Deep". I think "Goodbye In Her Eyes" and maybe "Keep Me In Mind" are eligible for Gold certification but Zac and the label haven't gotten them RIAA-certified (I'm guessing it costs money to do so). "Knee Deep" is a 2x Platinum smash and "Colder Weather" I think had about 1.8 mil in sales last time I checked. I also think some of their earlier singles ("Highway 20 Ride", "Free", and "As She's Walking Away") are probably all eligible to be Gold...I can't imagine that those 3 haven't sold at least 500k by now. Also, "Chicken Fried" has sold more than 4 million singles but they haven't gotten the certification for it (it's still 2x Platinum). "Toes" is over 2 mil sold and it's only certified Platinum as of now. Their album sales have been down too, although aside from Blake Shelton, I can't think of any major country acts that have seen album-to-album increases. Luke's Crash My Party is about 300k short of tailgates & tanlines, so CMP should move ahead of that later this year. I think Brantley's new album will sell more than 1 million, and of course FGL has been a big success story. I'm hoping Eric's The Outsiders can eventually sell about what Chief did. But ZBB's first album sold a bit more than 3 million, You Get What You Give is around 1.9 million, and Uncaged has sold about 1.1 million total. Those are obviously still great numbers but still some pretty substantial decreases between albums. EP's aren't going to sell a whole lot. The diehard fans will buy them but that's about it. EP's are often digital-only and they don't get a lot of exposure, nor is there typically much hype for them. So I think they need to have a full-length album to get some momentum back but I'm not sure releasing "All Alright" was the best move, even if it does serve as the 'lead' single to an upcoming album.
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Post by zjames on Jun 9, 2014 19:02:54 GMT -5
Becca of thecountryvibe.com tweeted that Zac Brown Band is planning on recording new music in the fall for their new album due out in Spring 2015. If this is indeed true, it would appear that "All Alright" will be a standalone release from "The Grohl Sessions, Vol. 1".
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 9, 2014 19:16:54 GMT -5
Becca of thecountryvibe.com tweeted that Zac Brown Band is planning on recording new music in the fall for their new album due out in Spring 2015. If this is indeed true, it would appear that "All Alright" will be a standalone release from "The Grohl Sessions, Vol. 1". Wow I hope we get new ZBB sooner than that, but I'm glad that this won't be the lead single for the new album as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 17:28:50 GMT -5
This one has a negative bullet (-6) as of today's update. It lost 62 spins and 307k in today's update.
All in all, this song has been moving very slowly compared to ZBB's other singles. Granted, a lot of the other songs in the 20's have slowed down this week as well, but I don't think things are looking too good for "All Alright".
I like this song well enough but it's not one of my favorites from them. The production is both different and interesting but it's just not my favorite sound. Zac sounds great though, and AA has good lyrics as well. But I have a hunch that the "bro" demographic doesn't care for this song at all.
"All Alright" has been unable to pass new artists like Cole Swindell, Chase Rice, and The Swon Brothers. Cole has picked up the pace in the last couple of weeks but otherwise none of those 3 has been moving very fast, and yet a ZBB single has been unable to overtake them. Now we've got new singles from Eric, Miranda/Carrie, and Kenny all coming up very fast, and of course there's the Sam Hunt fiasco. I also think that both Parmalee and Frankie Ballard are going to wind up peaking higher than ZBB does.
"All Alright" is still a long way from the top 20. I don't necessarily think it's completely done yet but things aren't looking very good at all. Perhaps it was only intended to act as a 'bridge' single between "Sweet Annie" and the lead single of their next project. But still, I imagine that they wanted this to do as well as possible. I guess it just makes me a little nervous for ZBB's future, especially since they are the only act that Southern Ground is promoting.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jun 22, 2014 17:59:00 GMT -5
This one has a negative bullet (-6) as of today's update. It lost 62 spins and 307k in today's update. All in all, this song has been moving very slowly compared to ZBB's other singles. Granted, a lot of the other songs in the 20's have slowed down this week as well, but I don't think things are looking too good for "All Alright". I like this song well enough but it's not one of my favorites from them. The production is both different and interesting but it's just not my favorite sound. Zac sounds great though, and AA has good lyrics as well. But I have a hunch that the "bro" demographic doesn't care for this song at all. "All Alright" has been unable to pass new artists like Cole Swindell, Chase Rice, and The Swon Brothers. Cole has picked up the pace in the last couple of weeks but otherwise none of those 3 has been moving very fast, and yet a ZBB single has been unable to overtake them. Now we've got new singles from Eric, Miranda/Carrie, and Kenny all coming up very fast, and of course there's the Sam Hunt fiasco. I also think that both Parmalee and Frankie Ballard are going to wind up peaking higher than ZBB does. "All Alright" is still a long way from the top 20. I don't necessarily think it's completely done yet but things aren't looking very good at all. Perhaps it was only intended to act as a 'bridge' single between "Sweet Annie" and the lead single of their next project. But still, I imagine that they wanted this to do as well as possible. I guess it just makes me a little nervous for ZBB's future, especially since they are the only act that Southern Ground is promoting. I like the Zac Brown Band a lot but not particularly this song. Great to see Dave Grohl produce a country record and helped them in different ways (playing drums for them at the CMA's for starters) but I guess you might say that they probably didn't promote it as much as they have with other songs "Goodbye In Her Eyes", "Toes" and "Sweet Annie". They could have chosen "Let It Rain" for a single and could yet as it's probably a better song than "All Alright" is. I also wished that they could have toured with Dave's group Foo Fighters which might have helped but they didn't do it to my surprise. With the onslaught of Miranda and Carrie's "Somethin' Bad" and Kenny Chesney's "American Kids" and Sam Hunt's debut, I would say it might be done as soon as all of these singles pass "All Alright".
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Post by bluedog6 on Jun 23, 2014 7:35:04 GMT -5
I haven't been paying much attention to the chart run, but I hope it keeps going. It is probably my favorite single of theirs since "The Wind". Oh lordy be, well you know how that went with the first miss of the top 10. Seems I always like the songs the most that don't do as well chart-wise. "All Alright" is so refreshing for me and cleans the bro-country right out of my ears. I love the change of meter in the bridge. The harmonies really stand out for me on this song as well.
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Post by jferstler on Jul 3, 2014 1:01:59 GMT -5
Has anyone actually heard this on the radio??? I have never once heard this on the radio here in northwest ohio.
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Post by ryanroberts on Jul 3, 2014 6:20:10 GMT -5
I've heard it a handful of times on my local radio in the memphis tn area.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 3, 2014 8:45:20 GMT -5
Has anyone actually heard this on the radio??? I have never once heard this on the radio here in northwest ohio. Heard it on Albany NY's WGNA, heard it in Nashville and also SiriusXM's "The Highway" channel.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 3, 2014 13:12:47 GMT -5
WATZ's been playing it a lot up here.
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Post by zjames on Jul 19, 2014 16:40:43 GMT -5
This song is just not selling. It currently sits at #70 on the iTunes country chart, which is pretty terrible for an "A-list" song that is #23 on the Billboard airplay chart.
"All Alright" is behind so many songs in sales that are well behind it on the airplay chart, like "Rum", "Tattoo", "Close Your Eyes", "Look At You", "Feelin' It", and "Dirt Road", among others.
While it has a decent bullet right now, its #23 spot isn't particularly good for ZBB in the song's 12th week on the chart. "All Alright" will have to compete with the upcoming Jason Aldean and Garth Brooks releases, plus Sam Hunt and Luke Bryan are closing in quickly (possibly Eric Church, Frankie Ballard, and Little Big Town if they can pick up some steam). Once "All Alright" reaches the Top 20 on the airplay charts, I don't see it getting much higher. It just doesn't feel like there's much enthusiasm to play this song with a bunch of intriguing songs currently out and on the horizon.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 19, 2014 17:43:54 GMT -5
This song is just not selling. It currently sits at #70 on the iTunes country chart, which is pretty terrible for an "A-list" song that is #23 on the Billboard airplay chart. "All Alright" is behind so many songs in sales that are well behind it on the airplay chart, like "Rum", "Tattoo", "Close Your Eyes", "Look At You", "Feelin' It", and "Dirt Road", among others. While it has a decent bullet right now, its #23 spot isn't particularly good for ZBB in the song's 12th week on the chart. "All Alright" will have to compete with the upcoming Jason Aldean and Garth Brooks releases, plus Sam Hunt and Luke Bryan are closing in quickly (possibly Eric Church, Frankie Ballard, and Little Big Town if they can pick up some steam). Once "All Alright" reaches the Top 20 on the airplay charts, I don't see it getting much higher. It just doesn't feel like there's much enthusiasm to play this song with a bunch of intriguing songs currently out and on the horizon. I think the problem is most people (average radio listeners) aren't aware that the song was on an EP that came out back in December. The EP as a whole is selling a little better, at number 25 on iTunes Country Albums chart. I think they made a mistake by not re-releasing a radio edit version to iTunes when this song was first released to radio. There also doesn't seem to be much promotion of any kind for this song, no adds, no TV appearances that I can think of, nothing but their tour to help promote it. If their next album isn't slated to come out until next year sometime, I'm a little worried that radio may have forgotten all about ZBB. Maybe I'm hitting the panic button too soon, but it still seems really concerning. Their next lead single is going to have to be an upbeat song, more like "Chicken Fried" or "Toes" than "Sweet Annie".
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Post by zjames on Jul 19, 2014 18:29:45 GMT -5
This song is just not selling. It currently sits at #70 on the iTunes country chart, which is pretty terrible for an "A-list" song that is #23 on the Billboard airplay chart. "All Alright" is behind so many songs in sales that are well behind it on the airplay chart, like "Rum", "Tattoo", "Close Your Eyes", "Look At You", "Feelin' It", and "Dirt Road", among others. While it has a decent bullet right now, its #23 spot isn't particularly good for ZBB in the song's 12th week on the chart. "All Alright" will have to compete with the upcoming Jason Aldean and Garth Brooks releases, plus Sam Hunt and Luke Bryan are closing in quickly (possibly Eric Church, Frankie Ballard, and Little Big Town if they can pick up some steam). Once "All Alright" reaches the Top 20 on the airplay charts, I don't see it getting much higher. It just doesn't feel like there's much enthusiasm to play this song with a bunch of intriguing songs currently out and on the horizon. I think the problem is most people (average radio listeners) aren't aware that the song was on an EP that came out back in December. The EP as a whole is selling a little better, at number 25 on iTunes Country Albums chart. I think they made a mistake by not re-releasing a radio edit version to iTunes when this song was first released to radio. There also doesn't seem to be much promotion of any kind for this song, no adds, no TV appearances that I can think of, nothing but their tour to help promote it. If their next album isn't slated to come out until next year sometime, I'm a little worried that radio may have forgotten all about ZBB. Maybe I'm hitting the panic button too soon, but it still seems really concerning. Their next lead single is going to have to be an upbeat song, more like "Chicken Fried" or "Toes" than "Sweet Annie". I saw them on their tour in June and they played every song off The Grohl Sessions except for "All Alright", which surprised me. Coincidentally, it was the first song that played on the radio when I got in my car that night though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 1:33:33 GMT -5
I think the problem is most people (average radio listeners) aren't aware that the song was on an EP that came out back in December. The EP as a whole is selling a little better, at number 25 on iTunes Country Albums chart. I think they made a mistake by not re-releasing a radio edit version to iTunes when this song was first released to radio. There also doesn't seem to be much promotion of any kind for this song, no adds, no TV appearances that I can think of, nothing but their tour to help promote it. If their next album isn't slated to come out until next year sometime, I'm a little worried that radio may have forgotten all about ZBB. Maybe I'm hitting the panic button too soon, but it still seems really concerning. Their next lead single is going to have to be an upbeat song, more like "Chicken Fried" or "Toes" than "Sweet Annie". I don't really think this is why "All Alright" is struggling. This song just doesn't sound like anything on the radio right now...sometimes that can help a song, but in this case it seems to be working against it. Radio isn't into this sound right now because the recent trends have brought in so many younger listeners and I doubt there are very many FGL/Luke "bro-country" fans listening to this song and admiring it for how good/unique it is and for how mature its lyrics are. Sonically, this goes against the grain of the direction that country radio is heading in. As a top 25 song, AA is getting plenty of exposure but like @vancworley said, it's just not selling. It's not all that different from what we just had with "Chainsaw"...a very low sales per spin ratio. Many other songs in the 20's and 30's on the airplay chart aren't getting any sort of promotion outside of radio either (no TV appearnces, not a lot of ads) but they are selling way better than AA is. "All Alright" should go top 20 pretty easily but I agree in that it doesn't seem very likely that it'll get much higher than that. They are coming off 3 top 2 hits but even the hits from Uncaged (and the album itself) didn't sell nearly as well as their previous hits and albums. Also, Zac's label hired its own promotion staff now and while the promo reps have all worked for big labels before, Southern Ground is still at a bit of a disadvantage because it is an indie label and ZBB is really its only radio act.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jul 21, 2014 15:11:18 GMT -5
This isn't a bad song, but I view it as more of a place-holder for their fourth album. I'm very tickled that some stations are playing it a good handful, though, as I'm hearing it every now and again down here. A top 20 peak almost seems like a given at this point, but anything higher than that would be gravy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:19:33 GMT -5
This isn't a bad song, but I view it as more of a place-holder for their fourth album. I'm very tickled that some stations are playing it a good handful, though, as I'm hearing it every now and again down here. A top 20 peak almost seems like a given at this point, but anything higher than that would be gravy. I agree with this. I think that since it's just on an EP they are just kinda using it to bridge the gap between albums (although I do suppose this could be tacked on to their next full-length album). But I do think that if they are going to have another string of really big hits, their lead single from album #4 will have to be something a bit more mainstream. Not necessarily a rehash of "Toes" or "As She's Walking Away" or "Goodbye In Her Eyes" or "Sweet Annie", but just something that radio is a bit more likely to play. With "All Alright", I felt from the get-go that it wouldn't be exactly what radio was looking for. It's unfortunate that even big-name acts like the ZBB have to conform somewhat to radio's wishes in order to stay really popular on the airwaves. However, on a more positive note, I do think ZBB has been one of the better big-name acts when it comes to balancing quality material with radio-friendly material. When it comes to most of their singles I feel that they've been able to do a good job of mixing it up and keeping things fresh while also delivering radio-friendly material.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 21, 2014 15:59:04 GMT -5
This definitely is a more rock influenced song, especially with Dave Grohl producing it, so that doesn't help it's chances on country radio. The weird thing is that "Sweet Annie", a very slow and older sounding song in my opinion, was still able to peak at #1 in the midst of many party-oriented style songs. I didn't mean they need to rehash "Toes" or "Chicken Fried" for their next lead single, but just that they need to go with something more fun and upbeat. Their concerts are still selling well, so clearly many people still love ZBB. At this point I have a decent amount of confidence in them because they are one of the few acts in country music who aren't afraid to try a new style or incorporate a new sound or instrument into their arrangement. They're my favorite country act after Jake Owen, so I hope they still have a couple more good album cycles left on country radio.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 23, 2014 12:08:58 GMT -5
If this continues to struggle, I will seriously consider arranging a ring of people to request-bomb as many big-market stations as possible.
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Post by zjames on Jul 23, 2014 14:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 7, 2014 12:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by rsmatto on Aug 7, 2014 12:59:13 GMT -5
Also, Zac's label hired its own promotion staff now and while the promo reps have all worked for big labels before, Southern Ground is still at a bit of a disadvantage because it is an indie label and ZBB is really its only radio act. They're the label's ONLY act at this point in time (except for the members in the band's solo releases). I'd expect their next record to be an interesting barometer for where they go as an act. Do they continue the independent route on their own label or do they find another big label partner to promote their singles and their albums (they're very much like Garth Brooks in the sense that they control every aspect of their career). The band will be around for a long time to come but their status as big time radio stars? That may be fading within the next few years if they don't partner with a big label (after the next self-issued album comes out). Also, I expect "All Alright" to be released on the upcoming album too.
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