.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 9, 2014 3:19:26 GMT -5
This is a solid song and I like hearing it on the radio, but it is just kinda "there" and it's release really feels like such a non-event. And sonically, this is like "No Hurry Part II" for me, though I preferred the former to this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 2:09:26 GMT -5
I think that this one might be done. It's down 74 spins in the last 7 days at MB, and it's lost about 600k in audience over just the last 3-4 days alone. In recent weeks they've gotten passed by Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia Line, Jason Aldean, Sam Hunt, Frankie Ballard, Little Big Town, and Blake Shelton, and even songs like "Bartender" and "American Kids" were released several weeks after "All Alright" was. Now the ZBB stands to get passed by Garth Brooks and Keith Urban.
This song has simply been stuck for weeks, not really moving up or down, and I expect that that's the result of very low digital sales and a lack of momentum. I think they can recover, though, but it would probably help if we got a clearer picture of what their next full-length studio album will be like. I don't think they did themselves any favors by only having this on an EP. My guess is that they wanted to bridge the gap between "Sweet Annie" and their next album, and maybe a #17 peak is good enough for them considering the situation, but I just really hope they haven't 'damaged' their status as a radio A-lister.
I think "All Alright" will get knocked out of the top 20 (by Garth and Keith) on tomorrow's Billboard chart, and I'm expecting it to be without a bullet as well. Furthermore, since tomorrow will be its 20th chart week, it might also be its last week unless the song recovers and starts gaining audience again. As it stands now, though, I think this will go recurrent on Billboard on Monday the 15th (chart dated 09/27).
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 8, 2014 12:41:44 GMT -5
I think that this one might be done. It's down 74 spins in the last 7 days at MB, and it's lost about 600k in audience over just the last 3-4 days alone. In recent weeks they've gotten passed by Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia Line, Jason Aldean, Sam Hunt, Frankie Ballard, Little Big Town, and Blake Shelton, and even songs like "Bartender" and "American Kids" were released several weeks after "All Alright" was. Now the ZBB stands to get passed by Garth Brooks and Keith Urban. This song has simply been stuck for weeks, not really moving up or down, and I expect that that's the result of very low digital sales and a lack of momentum. I think they can recover, though, but it would probably help if we got a clearer picture of what their next full-length studio album will be like. I don't think they did themselves any favors by only having this on an EP. My guess is that they wanted to bridge the gap between "Sweet Annie" and their next album, and maybe a #17 peak is good enough for them considering the situation, but I just really hope they haven't 'damaged' their status as a radio A-lister. I think "All Alright" will get knocked out of the top 20 (by Garth and Keith) on tomorrow's Billboard chart, and I'm expecting it to be without a bullet as well. Furthermore, since tomorrow will be its 20th chart week, it might also be its last week unless the song recovers and starts gaining audience again. As it stands now, though, I think this will go recurrent on Billboard on Monday the 15th (chart dated 09/27). Yeah, it's done. Down another 38 spins today and 112 over the past seven days on MB. They've decreased over a million in audience since last Sunday. It's MB and Billboard peak was #17.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 13:02:53 GMT -5
That's really odd to me. This song in my opinion had a lot of character and I personally liked it more than Sweet Annie. I think part of the problem could have been that it sounded way too much like some of their other songs.
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Post by ryanroberts on Sept 8, 2014 14:35:58 GMT -5
It's funny because I still hear this song a lot more than I had beforehand. Maybe it's one of those that even though it was top 20, still will be remembered and played for years to come.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 8, 2014 14:46:24 GMT -5
It's funny because I still hear this song a lot more than I had beforehand. Maybe it's one of those that even though it was top 20, still will be remembered and played for years to come. Could be but probably not given the way radio leans so heavily current. Especially not with "Toes," "Chicken Fried" and more to pull from the band's catalog.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 8, 2014 14:47:36 GMT -5
It's been over two years now since Uncaged came out, so if this song is indeed done, then I hope they have a new single for their next album coming out sooner rather than later. Seeing this song and "Cold One" struggle this summer has been really frustrating to me because these two songs sounded completely fresh and different from everything else on radio. If this song was released only to bridge the gap between Sweet Annie and their next lead single, than I don't understand why they didn't just release Island Song or Uncaged as the 5th single for the summer time. Both of those songs would have been perfect for summer radio IMO. Zac Brown Band is my favorite country artist after Jake Owen, so i really hope they haven't lost all their momentum.
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Post by tim on Sept 8, 2014 14:56:50 GMT -5
I'm still holding out hope for "Day That I Die" to get a single release. Who's to say they won't go back to Uncaged for one more single before releasing a new album. Unlikely, but I can hope. One of my favorite ZBB songs to never get released.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 8, 2014 15:00:41 GMT -5
I think All Alright did pretty well from an EP that did not sell well to begin with. It certainly served as a 'place holder' single until a new CD gets released in either late 2014 or early 2015.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 16, 2014 1:10:51 GMT -5
So this song fell off of Billboard this week, but wasn't listed in the top recurrents. Does anyone know why that is or is it possibly another error by Billboard?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 16, 2014 1:18:38 GMT -5
So this song fell off of Billboard this week, but wasn't listed in the top recurrents. Does anyone know why that is or is it possibly another error by Billboard? It only peaked at #17, so I'm guessing it just missed the top 10 of recurrency on BB which would have been around 11.6 million.
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Post by trebor on Sept 16, 2014 1:26:24 GMT -5
Good point. Asked myself the same question. It is only possible when ZBB's audience impressions halved in a 7 day frame. Wouldn't surprise me if they lost ~1000 plays and follow the same path as Eric Paslay's: "Song About A Girl" which fizzled out rather drastically.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 1:29:38 GMT -5
So this song fell off of Billboard this week, but wasn't listed in the top recurrents. Does anyone know why that is or is it possibly another error by Billboard? Last week Monday, "All Alright" had 18.558 million on Billboard and 24.422 million on Mediabase. Over the 7-day Billboard tracking period, the song lost over 7.7 million on Mediabase, which would've likely dropped it down into the 11-12 million range on Billboard. I see that the #10 recurrent, Brett Eldredge's "Beat Of The Music", has just over 11.6 million. So I suppose it's possible that Billboard made a mistake (they're very prone to do that), but I think in this case, the ZBB probably fell just below Brett's 11.6 mil total, to #11 recurrent. Songs that peak outside the top 10 at radio might get one week at most in the top 10 recurrents before they are pushed out. The BDS Radio site ( here) updates on Wednesday mornings, and they have Billboard's top 20 recurrents, so the mystery should be solved then.
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Post by someguy on Sept 16, 2014 5:11:10 GMT -5
It's disappointing that this peaked so low. They seem to have lost some real momentum at radio (despite having had #1s from their last album). Hopefully this being from a side project was the main reason this didn't do as well, and that they can come back strong with a new lead single.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 16, 2014 10:17:34 GMT -5
So this song fell off of Billboard this week, but wasn't listed in the top recurrents. Does anyone know why that is or is it possibly another error by Billboard? Last week Monday, "All Alright" had 18.558 million on Billboard and 24.422 million on Mediabase. Over the 7-day Billboard tracking period, the song lost over 7.7 million on Mediabase, which would've likely dropped it down into the 11-12 million range on Billboard. I see that the #10 recurrent, Brett Eldredge's "Beat Of The Music", has just over 11.6 million. So I suppose it's possible that Billboard made a mistake (they're very prone to do that), but I think in this case, the ZBB probably fell just below Brett's 11.6 mil total, to #11 recurrent. Songs that peak outside the top 10 at radio might get one week at most in the top 10 recurrents before they are pushed out. The BDS Radio site ( here) updates on Wednesday mornings, and they have Billboard's top 20 recurrents, so the mystery should be solved then. That link for the BDS Radio website takes you to a reply page on pulse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 10:55:43 GMT -5
That link for the BDS Radio website takes you to a reply page on pulse. Thanks. It's fixed now.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 16, 2014 14:07:42 GMT -5
Based on the 4 song EP, the Grohl Sessions did not prove to produce any great country music. I rather enjoyed the EP, even though I will grant that not much about it sounds country. And I loved this song.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 14:56:24 GMT -5
Based on the 4 song EP, the Grohl Sessions did not prove to produce any great country music. In the end, this song was nothing great. It was well..."All Alright". Well, to be fair, I'm not sure if anyone expected this EP to produce great Country music, since Dave Grohl has an obviously successful and commercial past as a Rock frontman and drummer. ZBB has always been very hit-or miss for me. I typically adore their ballads, but loathe their uptempo material. With the shape the industry is in right now, I doubt this EP was created to drum up commercial success, which I find refreshing. This isn't something I enjoyed, but kudos to them for challenging themselves and trying something different.
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Post by zjames on Sept 16, 2014 16:26:21 GMT -5
Based on the 4 song EP, the Grohl Sessions did not prove to produce any great country music. In the end, this song was nothing great. It was well..."All Alright". It didn't produce great country music, but it produced great music. The EP was a mixture of country with different rock elements, which was to be expected due to Dave Grohl's heavy involvement. Yeah, there weren't any songs on it that would succeed at radio, but I think some of the best songs they've recorded are on that EP.
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Post by trebor on Sept 17, 2014 12:28:18 GMT -5
"All Alright" is relegated to Recurrent #13 (far worse than anticipated). In the comprehensive ranking this represents a nose dive of 14 notches (24 down to 38) with a massive audience impression decrease of 39.8% :|
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 20, 2014 14:17:07 GMT -5
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 20, 2014 14:26:26 GMT -5
Well this news certainly gives me more confidence in ZBB for future chart success. I just hope they don't change their style at all, and stay true to themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 16:47:27 GMT -5
That's huge news on the ZBB front. I had actually been thinking over the last several weeks that Southern Ground wouldn't be able to survive as a full-service label, and I'd been wondering if Zac might partner with a big label for radio promo (like Chase Rice did) and keep everything else with SG. But I admit I didn't expect him to sign with Big Machine. This is huge and I wouldn't be surprised if this is a big momentum booster for them going forward.
Also, that article says that all other Southern Ground-affiliated artists will release future albums through the Varvatos/Republic/Big Machine deal, so this is huge for all of the artists that Zac has brought together on SG. It's almost as if Southern Ground is now another Big Machine imprint, although I don't expect them to work any other acts to radio (other than ZBB), at least in the near future.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 22, 2014 9:58:20 GMT -5
Well this news certainly gives me more confidence in ZBB for future chart success. I just hope they don't change their style at all, and stay true to themselves. They're not changing at all. The band still has 100% of the creative control of their music as Big Machine is a partner (much like McGraw and other artists). I'm sure Zac will listen to Scott for 'radio singles' but if I know anything about Zac, it's this: He has his vision for his band and he will not let ANYONE take that vision away for the sake of 'radio' or any other factor. This new deal is all about Zac deciding that they needed bigger promo partners than they had previously for their own label. I'd be surprised if they don't still have their promo team in addition to Big Machine Records. One thing you can count on is the band will likely get more award promo going forward, especially for ACM and CMA Awards and EOTY nods and whatnot. This song worked as a GREAT 'bridge' from the Atlantic stuff to their upcoming UMG-released projects.
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