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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 16, 2014 10:09:26 GMT -5
Dirt sold 182,000 copies. #1 country and #2 overall selling single.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 16, 2014 10:30:16 GMT -5
Does this have a chance to move up from #40 to #1 on the mongrel chart aka Hot Country Songs beating out the #35 to #1 move up for Luke Bryan's "That My Kind of Night" last year? I think that it will have a huge showing on the Hot 100 this week. The article comes out this afternoon for the Top 10 on the Hot 100 so we'll find out if they have a high debut or not on the 100. I believe it will. I did predict a #72 to #1 move on the pop chart for Taylor Swift's We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together. I will say Dirt could be Florida Georgia Line's first #1 on the Hot 100. Not without a huge pop airplay push. The only chance it had was if it went out and sold maybe 500k in the opening week and had an enormous stream push. Honestly, without at least 50-100m AI, single sales have to be so far ahead of everything else to have a chance at the top that it seems unlikely. "Only" selling 180k isn't going to get the job done until it gets a Pop/CHR release. My guess is this is slotted somewhere between 7-9 this week on the Hot 100, and trailing off a bit from there in following weeks unless it hits pop radio hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 15:17:42 GMT -5
Does this have a chance to move up from #40 to #1 on the mongrel chart aka Hot Country Songs beating out the #35 to #1 move up for Luke Bryan's "That My Kind of Night" last year? I think that it will have a huge showing on the Hot 100 this week. The article comes out this afternoon for the Top 10 on the Hot 100 so we'll find out if they have a high debut or not on the 100. I can see it going top 10 on the Hot 100 similar to when Jason Aldean got there with "Dirt Road Anthem". And I'm 100% sure that this will be #1 on Hot Country Songs tomorrow. There's absolutely no reason it won't be. It had almost 19 million in first week airplay, along with 182k in sales, plus some streaming numbers already. Kenny's "American Kids" sold about 80k this past week and behind him were Dierks and Lady A with about 65k each, so FGL's sales advantage alone will push this to #1.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 16, 2014 19:17:29 GMT -5
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Post by Marv on Jul 16, 2014 19:59:07 GMT -5
So if the final 19 holdouts not airing this add it to their playlist next week, that will match Kenny's feat for clearing 100% of the Mediabase panel with 'American Kids' in just three weeks, the second fewest weeks in recent chart history.
'What Hurts The Most' needed two weeks to do so enroute to finishing #1 for the year in 2006 @ R&R/Mediabase.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jul 16, 2014 21:51:35 GMT -5
I expect this to top Hot Country Songs in a very short amount of time due to how many people are buying the single off iTunes alone already and then the song and video premiere tomorrow. Radio is going to eat up the crap out of this song and blow it to #1 in record timing. I expect this to even hit #1 on iTunes Top Songs chart (All Genres). I was right on the money, ALREADY, #1 on Hot Country Songs!!! Even made a bigger leap then the higher debuting "That's My Kind Of Night" which debuted at #35 then vaulted to #1 that next week.
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Post by raprulestheworld on Jul 16, 2014 23:40:56 GMT -5
Dudes are on fire!!! I read a few posts above talking about a CHR/Pop push, does anybody think it actually will get pushed there?
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 17, 2014 7:39:12 GMT -5
Dudes are on fire!!! I read a few posts above talking about a CHR/Pop push, does anybody think it actually will get pushed there? Why not? With or without a remix? And, with or without a rapper? Lots of questions, I know.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 17, 2014 8:37:25 GMT -5
Dudes are on fire!!! I read a few posts above talking about a CHR/Pop push, does anybody think it actually will get pushed there? Why not? With or without a remix? And, with or without a rapper? Lots of questions, I know. I can totally see them pushing this to CHR/Pop with a slight remix and instead of Brian singing the second verse, they could get a popular singer to do it, someone like Bruno Mars maybe?
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 17, 2014 8:38:46 GMT -5
Why not? With or without a remix? And, with or without a rapper? Lots of questions, I know. I can totally see them pushing this to CHR/Pop with a slight remix and instead of Brian singing the second verse, they could get a popular singer to do it, someone like Bruno Mars maybe? So do I. I think everything Florida Georgia Line has done has either been remixed or has an added rapper to the mix. They definitely want to be crossover stars.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 17, 2014 8:40:40 GMT -5
I can totally see them pushing this to CHR/Pop with a slight remix and instead of Brian singing the second verse, they could get a popular singer to do it, someone like Bruno Mars maybe? So do I. I think everything Florida Georgia Line has done has either been remixed or has an added rapper to the mix. They definitely want to be crossover stars. A rapper would feel outta place for this AND Jason Derulo is NOT a rapper.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 17, 2014 11:50:07 GMT -5
From the midweek update:
As “Dirt” (Republic Nashville) rockets 40-1, Florida Georgia Line makes the biggest vault to No. 1 on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart since the list’s ranking method switched from covering core country radio audience to a sales/airplay/streaming hybrid almost two years ago. The midtempo track, Florida Georgia Line’s fourth Hot Country Songs No. 1, surpasses the 35-1 leap that Luke Bryan’s “That’s My Kind of Night” took last summer (Aug. 31, 2013). The lead single from the duo’s forthcoming second album arrives atop Country Digital Songs with 182,000 first-week downloads sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It also bows at No. 1 on Country Streaming Songs with 2.2 million U.S. streams (74 percent of them from Vevo on YouTube), according to Nielsen BDS. On Hot Country Songs, “Dirt” adds Airplay Gainer stripes. As previously reported, with 18.8 million audience impressions, it storms Country Airplay at No. 16, marking the act’s highest career launch.
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Post by miss1030 on Jul 18, 2014 18:39:20 GMT -5
this song impressed me so much. they are really trying to distance themselves from the bro country stigma and this song will really work for them
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 18, 2014 18:49:08 GMT -5
this song impressed me so much. they are really trying to distance themselves from the bro country stigma and this song will really work for them While I do believe they will try to record broader topics in the future--I don't think that they will ever distance themselves from bro country. FGL has built a fan base who enjoys the music they've brought thus far and will always have singles along the lines of "Round Here", "Get Your Shine On", etc. The difference I hope is that they expand their musical horizon much more often than the first album.
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Post by someguy on Jul 19, 2014 0:56:30 GMT -5
I don't love this song, but I'm glad that they're broadening their horizons a little bit. Like sabre14 said, I don't ever see them leaving 'bro country' behind, because that's what brought them here so to speak, but I'm glad that they are trying out different sounds as well. So far, this is actually my least favourite of their singles, but I think that changing up their song choices and releasing something a bit deeper is a smart move.
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Post by miss1030 on Jul 19, 2014 0:57:10 GMT -5
this song impressed me so much. they are really trying to distance themselves from the bro country stigma and this song will really work for them While I do believe they will try to record broader topics in the future--I don't think that they will ever distance themselves from bro country. FGL has built a fan base who enjoys the music they've brought thus far and will always have singles along the lines of "Round Here", "Get Your Shine On", etc. The difference I hope is that they expand their musical horizon much more often than the first album. Oh yeah definitely. what i love about FGL is their "bro country" music. I just think that they are trying to attract other audiences who might only think that they have party songs. Its a good move on their part.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 19, 2014 7:41:22 GMT -5
this song impressed me so much. they are really trying to distance themselves from the bro country stigma and this song will really work for them First, welcome to Pulse Music Board, miss1030. Second, this is definitely a departure for Florida Georgia Line. However, the rest of the CD will be tunes like Cruise that brought them to where they are today. I just wonder if Dirt will match or exceed Stay's stay at #1 on the Airplay chart.
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Post by Marv on Jul 19, 2014 10:18:09 GMT -5
They'll need several more songs such as this on their next CD in order for us to see where they're going musically and creatively speaking, and we won't know that until the CD comes out later this year.
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Post by gardyfan on Jul 20, 2014 18:00:02 GMT -5
I'm already sick of hearing it.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 20, 2014 18:45:41 GMT -5
this song impressed me so much. they are really trying to distance themselves from the bro country stigma and this song will really work for them First, welcome to Pulse Music Board, miss1030. Second, this is definitely a departure for Florida Georgia Line. However, the rest of the CD will be tunes like Cruise that brought them to where they are today. I just wonder if Dirt will match or exceed Stay's stay at #1 on the Airplay chart. How do you know the rest of the new record will be the same as Cruise? Have you heard it ?
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 21, 2014 7:42:36 GMT -5
First, welcome to Pulse Music Board, miss1030. Second, this is definitely a departure for Florida Georgia Line. However, the rest of the CD will be tunes like Cruise that brought them to where they are today. I just wonder if Dirt will match or exceed Stay's stay at #1 on the Airplay chart. How do you know the rest of the new record will be the same as Cruise? Have you heard it ? No I haven't, but it stands to reason that Florida Georgia Line will return to its 'comfort zone' with its next single. I am certainly not expecting a CD full of Dirt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 8:37:13 GMT -5
I don't really get the praise for this one, to be honest.
The only thing I hate more than lazy songwriting is lazy songwriting that tries to come across as profound. This is just...empty.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 21, 2014 9:54:21 GMT -5
I don't really get the praise for this one, to be honest. The only thing I hate more than lazy songwriting is lazy songwriting that tries to come across as profound. This is just...empty. How is this lazy songwriting ?
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Post by kanimal on Jul 21, 2014 10:11:37 GMT -5
I don't really get the praise for this one, to be honest. The only thing I hate more than lazy songwriting is lazy songwriting that tries to come across as profound. This is just...empty. How is this lazy songwriting ? Because it's written by a popular band and is successful, so it obviously can't be good.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 21, 2014 12:39:39 GMT -5
Pulling this over from the "Burnin' It Down" thread since it's off-topic there, on-topic here: As for the song itself, the lyrics are exactly as unimaginative as I would expect from that group of writers (Tyler Hubbard and Brian Kelley have yet to show me any signs of inventiveness, while Rodney Clawson and Chris Tompkins only seem to generate songs that in any way transcend formula when those songs are written with more cutting-edge writers outside of Big Loud Shirt Publishing)). So 43dudley, who is the 3rd writer on Dirt? "Dirt" doesn't transcend formula, in my view. It's a pile of stock images tied together by a pretty well-worn motif in country music (most famously featured, perhaps, in Brooks & Dunn's "Red Dirt Road," but also appearing in Josh Kelley's minor hit "Georgia Clay"). "Red Dirt Road" is "Dirt"'s most obvious forebear, but "Dirt" is also similar in orientation to Jason Aldean's "Tattoos in This Town," and quite similar in imagery to Luke Bryan's "We Rode in Trucks" and Justin Moore's "One Dirt Road." That's just off the top of my head, and I'm sure the historians here would be able to provide even more examples. So I see "Dirt" not as a moment of (re-)invention or revelation, but as another in a pretty long line of similarly written songs that use a signature rural image as the prism to illustrate homegrown roots. Alan Jackson's "Drive (for Daddy Gene)" is probably a major moment in that tradition, but it feels a lot more specific and personal (and for me, was a great deal more effective as a result). I accept "Dirt" as a heartfelt song rather than a calculated effort to rebrand (well, it's probably both, but my point is that I don't think that takes away from the sincerity of the song). But in addition to the formulaic imagery issue (an attempt, I suppose, to lend some meaning to the backwoods truck party parade of the past couple of years), I also think that "Dirt" suffers from a lack of narrative, an issue aggravated by Hubbard and Kelley's mechanical delivery of the verses. If "Dirt" is supposed to represent an example of Clawson and Tompkins trying as songwriters and Florida-Georgia Line trying as artists, it serves to illustrate how much deeper all involved will need to dig to come up with something genuinely fresh, and by fresh I mean a new way to present even time-honored themes like those addressed by "Dirt." But it's a step in the right direction lyrically (sonically, not so much, but as always that is just my opinion). How is this lazy songwriting ? Because it's written by a popular band and is successful, so it obviously can't be good. Unless Rodney Clawson and Chris Tompkins are already a popular band, "Dirt" is not written by a popular band. In any event, you will find plenty of commercial successes that have been roundly praised here (for a few examples, see threads for Miranda Lambert's "The House That Built Me"; Eric Church's "Springsteen"; Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away"; Darius Rucker's cover of "Wagon Wheel", and even Dierks Bentley's "Drunk on a Plane"). So perhaps it's more reasonable to accept that this particular popular song/band is not for everyone due to perfectly defensible matters of taste? On the popularity & quality debate...can we agree that while the two things are not and should not be treated as mutually exclusive, popularity does not necessarily mean quality? Or do I have to start supplementing links showing the two in harmony with links to gross McDonald's stories?
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Post by kanimal on Jul 21, 2014 13:10:04 GMT -5
Pulling this over from the "Burnin' It Down" thread since it's off-topic there, on-topic here: So 43dudley, who is the 3rd writer on Dirt? "Dirt" doesn't transcend formula, in my view. It's a pile of stock images tied together by a pretty well-worn motif in country music (most famously featured, perhaps, in Brooks & Dunn's "Red Dirt Road," but also appearing in Josh Kelley's minor hit "Georgia Clay"). "Red Dirt Road" is "Dirt"'s most obvious forebear, but "Dirt" is also similar in orientation to Jason Aldean's "Tattoos in This Town," and quite similar in imagery to Luke Bryan's "We Rode in Trucks" and Justin Moore's "One Dirt Road." That's just off the top of my head, and I'm sure the historians here would be able to provide even more examples. So I see "Dirt" not as a moment of (re-)invention or revelation, but as another in a pretty long line of similarly written songs that use a signature rural image as the prism to illustrate homegrown roots. Alan Jackson's "Drive (for Daddy Gene)" is probably a major moment in that tradition, but it feels a lot more specific and personal (and for me, was a great deal more effective as a result). I accept "Dirt" as a heartfelt song rather than a calculated effort to rebrand (well, it's probably both, but my point is that I don't think that takes away from the sincerity of the song). But in addition to the formulaic imagery issue (an attempt, I suppose, to lend some meaning to the backwoods truck party parade of the past couple of years), I also think that "Dirt" suffers from a lack of narrative, an issue aggravated by Hubbard and Kelley's mechanical delivery of the verses. If "Dirt" is supposed to represent an example of Clawson and Tompkins trying as songwriters and Florida-Georgia Line trying as artists, it serves to illustrate how much deeper all involved will need to dig to come up with something genuinely fresh, and by fresh I mean a new way to present even time-honored themes like those addressed by "Dirt." But it's a step in the right direction lyrically (sonically, not so much, but as always that is just my opinion). Because it's written by a popular band and is successful, so it obviously can't be good. Unless Rodney Clawson and Chris Tompkins are already a popular band, "Dirt" is not written by a popular band. In any event, you will find plenty of commercial successes that have been roundly praised here (for a few examples, see threads for Miranda Lambert's "The House That Built Me"; Eric Church's "Springsteen"; Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away"; Darius Rucker's cover of "Wagon Wheel", and even Dierks Bentley's "Drunk on a Plane"). So perhaps it's more reasonable to accept that this particular popular song/band is not for everyone due to perfectly defensible matters of taste? On the popularity & quality debate...can we agree that while the two things are not and should not be treated as mutually exclusive, popularity does not necessarily mean quality? Or do I have to start supplementing links showing the two in harmony with links to gross McDonald's stories? My point was precisely the opposite - that popularity does not preclude quality. Yet in 95% of cases, when something gets insanely popular, you'll find people ranting about how taste has gone down the tubes. You're saying "Dirt" shouldn't be considered good just because it's popular. I'm saying it's not BAD because it's popular. And, at the end of the day, I feel far more people (on a site like Pulse) will be guilty of the latter than the former. They'll refuse to accept that a FGL song that doesn't flop at radio can be good. I will say that I do not see any of those other country examples (with the possible exception of Wagon Wheel) as analogous. And that perhaps falls on me for using a term as ambiguous as "popular" to describe Florida Georgia Line. But I believe Florida Georgia Line (and Luke Bryan, to an extent) garners a very specific--and perhaps deserved in some ways--resentment that is not common to all commercially successful acts. Eric Church, Dierks Bentley and Miranda Lambert are all commercially successful, but they actually garner praise from many of the same people that hate FGL (Miranda less so recently, as she seems to have begun alienating some country purists with songs like "Somethin' Bad"). I think that can be ascribed to the fact that they seem "truer" to country and have more workmanlike backgrounds. FGL came out of nowhere to dominate country (and pop) airwaves (as far as the public eye is concerned, they obviously were working at this for years), while Eric Church and Miranda Lambert had to pay their dues (again, in the public eye - Miranda had a boost from Nashville Star, but it took her a long time to be a legitimate force at radio). Dierks was a success out of the gate, but he debuted more than ten years ago, so that earns him cred.
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Post by trebor on Jul 21, 2014 13:23:48 GMT -5
Moves up 4 notches on the Mediabase chart: 26 to 22. Far less than to be expected from 1st week hysteria. KYCC San Antonio slowed it down from 64 to 39 plays In order to be fair, I even pulled myself together and listened to the tune... voluntarily. My reception is rather tepid to be polite. Not that good and not that bad either. Average sing-a-long that you can safely play at any time without scaring off your audience. Anxious to know the results from nielsen/BDS tonight.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 21, 2014 14:31:14 GMT -5
Pulling this over from the "Burnin' It Down" thread since it's off-topic there, on-topic here: So 43dudley, who is the 3rd writer on Dirt? "Dirt" doesn't transcend formula, in my view. It's a pile of stock images tied together by a pretty well-worn motif in country music (most famously featured, perhaps, in Brooks & Dunn's "Red Dirt Road," but also appearing in Josh Kelley's minor hit "Georgia Clay"). "Red Dirt Road" is "Dirt"'s most obvious forebear, but "Dirt" is also similar in orientation to Jason Aldean's "Tattoos in This Town," and quite similar in imagery to Luke Bryan's "We Rode in Trucks" and Justin Moore's "One Dirt Road." That's just off the top of my head, and I'm sure the historians here would be able to provide even more examples. So I see "Dirt" not as a moment of (re-)invention or revelation, but as another in a pretty long line of similarly written songs that use a signature rural image as the prism to illustrate homegrown roots. Alan Jackson's "Drive (for Daddy Gene)" is probably a major moment in that tradition, but it feels a lot more specific and personal (and for me, was a great deal more effective as a result).  I completely disagree with you if you are trying to say that FGL's Dirt is just another tired rewrite of all these songs about dirt and the country and small towns (Josh Kelly "georgia clay"? seriously?). Bad try at making that point. From radio's acceptance of this song to every review I've read about this song, the vast majority are all hailing this song as a fresh re-take on this topic. Your negativity makes it pretty clear that you just have an axe to grind with FGL and anyone involved with their career.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 21, 2014 14:36:52 GMT -5
Moves up 4 notches on the Mediabase chart: 26 to 22. Far less than to be expected from 1st week hysteria. KYCC San Antonio slowed it down from 64 to 39 plays In order to be fair, I even pulled myself together and listened to the tune... voluntarily. My reception is rather tepid to be polite. Not that good and not that bad either. Average sing-a-long that you can safely play at any time without scaring off your audience. Anxious to know the results from nielsen/BDS tonight. I'll say Dirt either stays at #16 or lose chart positon. After all, Blake Shelton can not go recurrent because he will be on the chart for fifteen weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:03:36 GMT -5
Moves up 4 notches on the Mediabase chart: 26 to 22. Far less than to be expected from 1st week hysteria. KYCC San Antonio slowed it down from 64 to 39 plays In order to be fair, I even pulled myself together and listened to the tune... voluntarily. My reception is rather tepid to be polite. Not that good and not that bad either. Average sing-a-long that you can safely play at any time without scaring off your audience. Anxious to know the results from nielsen/BDS tonight. I'll say Dirt either stays at #16 or lose chart positon. After all, Blake Shelton can not go recurrent because he will be on the chart for fifteen weeks. Blake can and will go recurrent because his song has been bullet-less for the last 2 charts.
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