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Post by dm2081 on Aug 11, 2014 20:44:19 GMT -5
This song finally had a good update. Jumped from 42 to 37 on Billboard with a gain of 1.6 million in audience. Finally looks like it might be ready to start climbing the chart.
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Post by McCreerian on Aug 11, 2014 20:53:58 GMT -5
The only problem this song has had is the heavy traffic on the chart, which is impacting a lot of good songs. This one will find it's way in time. It's ear candy and radio does love that.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 11, 2014 21:04:28 GMT -5
The only problem this song has had is the heavy traffic on the chart, which is impacting a lot of good songs. This one will find it's way in time. It's ear candy and radio does love that. Yeah but there's going to be a good house cleaning in the next couple of weeks probably. Next week Joe and Billy will fall off the chart, and Eric Paslay, Eli Young Band, Parmalee, and Big & Rich are all running out of time with their respective singles. I expect some songs to start having their breaking points soon.
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Post by someguy on Aug 12, 2014 23:37:47 GMT -5
This song finally had a good update. Jumped from 42 to 37 on Billboard with a gain of 1.6 million in audience. Finally looks like it might be ready to start climbing the chart. After looking pretty flat over the last few weeks, this was definitely a big week for "Tattoo", and the first in quite awhile that it has shown signs of life. It's such a crowded chart, but Hunter's song is still relatively young, and that will only work in its favour.
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Post by Rumors on Aug 14, 2014 16:29:15 GMT -5
There's not anything very remarkable about the song or video but at least it's a country song by a male artist that isn't about partying and drinking bear.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 15, 2014 9:07:46 GMT -5
There's not anything very remarkable about the song or video but at least it's a country song by a male artist that isn't about partying and drinking bear. Actually, if there were a song about "drinking bear" I would love to see it climb the chart. Or at least a song about a tattoo of a drinking bear. That could be Hunter's way of crossing over to a modified version of bro country.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 15, 2014 11:11:25 GMT -5
There's not anything very remarkable about the song or video but at least it's a country song by a male artist that isn't about partying and drinking bear. The girl in that video is very remarkable. Even though I maintain my indifference--or even dislike--for this song, I still want it to succeed. Hunter Hayes is an incredible talent, and I certainly don't want him to leave this album era with less star wattage than when he went into it.
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 15, 2014 11:16:44 GMT -5
There's not anything very remarkable about the song or video but at least it's a country song by a male artist that isn't about partying and drinking bear. The girl in that video is very remarkable. Even though I maintain my indifference--or even dislike--for this song, I still want it to succeed. Hunter Hayes is an incredible talent, and I certainly don't want him to leave this album era with less star wattage than when he went into it. Is the girl the same one from the Randy Houser Trilogy?
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Post by zjames on Oct 7, 2014 18:56:09 GMT -5
Have people just lost interest in Hunter Hayes? Even with a $0.69 sale, "Tattoo" is only #73 on the iTunes Country chart.
It's only #26 after 19 weeks on Billboard. It's been at #26 for the past few weeks and just isn't the big bounce-back hit that he needed after "Invisible".
Why hasn't this one done better? It just seems like it would be a big hit for Hunter; it seems to fit his style well and it's radio-friendly.
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Post by ethanhunt on Oct 7, 2014 19:06:35 GMT -5
This song is painfully average. Sadly that's the case for more than a few song on Hunter's latest CD.
Hopefully they follow this one up with something good like “Still Falling" or “Secrete Love"
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 7, 2014 19:07:21 GMT -5
Have people just lost interest in Hunter Hayes? Even with a $0.69 sale, "Tattoo" is only #73 on the iTunes Country chart. It's only #26 after 19 weeks on Billboard. It's been at #26 for the past few weeks and just isn't the big bounce-back hit that he needed after "Invisible". Why hasn't this one done better? It just seems like it would be a big hit for Hunter; it seems to fit his style well and it's radio-friendly. I know this answer is used for almost every song struggling right now, but the truth is there's just way too much congestion on the charts these days. There's been almost 10 superstars release new debut singles in the past two months (Kenny, Lady A, Blake, Brad, Tim McGraw, Garth, Carrie, and Jason). Then add in all the B-listers (Lee, Jake, Chris, Little Big Town, Randy, Thomas Rhett, Joe Nichols, etc.). Then remember all the songs struggling on the chart but won't give up because they know their next single isn't likely to do anything (Swon Bros, Big & Rich, Parmalee). Then you have all the young guns like Chase Rice, Dan + Shay, Scotty, Brothers Osborne, Maddie & Tae, and Sam Hunt. Actually, I think considering his poor sales and lack of momentum right now, Hunter should be pretty satisfied with his chart position right now. There's just so much chart clogging right now, I can't stand it. It would be so much better if all these songs just breezed up the charts in 15-20 weeks each, but instead superstars get a pass for 10-15 weeks, while everyone else is looking at over half a year of chart climbing. It's gotten absurd. But I agree that the lack of sales for this song is pretty alarming, and it almost seems like Hunter has taken a step back with this recent album. I give him a lot of credit though for not confining to making music that the rest of the industry is playing just to make it easier on himself though.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 7, 2014 19:21:24 GMT -5
Have people just lost interest in Hunter Hayes? Even with a $0.69 sale, "Tattoo" is only #73 on the iTunes Country chart. It's only #26 after 19 weeks on Billboard. It's been at #26 for the past few weeks and just isn't the big bounce-back hit that he needed after "Invisible". Why hasn't this one done better? It just seems like it would be a big hit for Hunter; it seems to fit his style well and it's radio-friendly. I know this answer is used for almost every song struggling right now, but the truth is there's just way too much congestion on the charts these days. There's been almost 10 superstars release new debut singles in the past two months (Kenny, Lady A, Blake, Brad, Tim McGraw, Garth, Carrie, and Jason). Then add in all the B-listers (Lee, Jake, Chris, Little Big Town, Randy, Thomas Rhett, Joe Nichols, etc.). Then remember all the songs struggling on the chart but won't give up because they know their next single isn't likely to do anything (Swon Bros, Big & Rich, Parmalee). Then you have all the young guns like Chase Rice, Dan + Shay, Scotty, Brothers Osborne, Maddie & Tae, and Sam Hunt. Actually, I think considering his poor sales and lack of momentum right now, Hunter should be pretty satisfied with his chart position right now. There's just so much chart clogging right now, I can't stand it. It would be so much better if all these songs just breezed up the charts in 15-20 weeks each, but instead superstars get a pass for 10-15 weeks, while everyone else is looking at over half a year of chart climbing. It's gotten absurd. But I agree that the lack of sales for this song is pretty alarming, and it almost seems like Hunter has taken a step back with this recent album. I give him a lot of credit though for not confining to making music that the rest of the industry is playing just to make it easier on himself though. I agree with much of this. While I do agree that "Tattoo" is nothing special, and that is contributing to this song's chart run; It's just too much in the way of competition. Hunter's not an A level star. It seems there was a quick push to make him that status when "Wanted" and "Somebody's Heartbreak" made it big. Then the crucial mistake IMO, of having "Invisible" get the CC treatment. Not only did the song not connect with radio once the buzz died down, but Hunter was just not established enough to justify getting one. Now we are seeing some ripple effects with the chart run of "Tattoo", which has looked more like the chart run of his debut single "Storm Warning". I do like this much better than "Invisible" as a single since I thought "Invisible" never should have been a lead single (though the message getting out was the whole point which I can respect), but "Tattoo's" chart run is no surprise to me thus far.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Oct 7, 2014 19:51:22 GMT -5
I just hope this starts moving faster. I'm worried about the rest of the era now. This man deserves to be an A-Lister and I want this song to help him reach that.
I think Invisible would have been better as the final single off this album. I love that song, it's helped me a lot, but it messed a lot up.
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Post by someguy on Oct 10, 2014 22:40:28 GMT -5
Hunter has lost so much momentum from this album to his last one. I guess "Tattoo" is moving more in line with how a single from someone on their second album typically moves, but he had seemed in a position to bypass that. I agree that the release of "Invisible" as a lead single, along with its hourly airplay deal, didn't do him any favours. He just seemed to really get lost in the shuffle with all of the new music that came out this year. "Tattoo" may still end up making the top 10 (I doubt it, but it's possible), but I'm not sure if there's a huge hit on his album at this point.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Oct 10, 2014 23:59:32 GMT -5
There's Wild Card, Secret Love, and especially Storyline left. They could also possibly go with You Think You Know Somebody, which (if radio would get its crap together and play a few slower songs) could be big. A lot of people can connect to it.
It's not just Invisible that's the problem, it's also how cluttered the charts are. His label needs to try to get this moving soon. This is so frustrating to watch. (I post on this way too much, but he IS one of my top favorites!)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 9:54:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't blame "Tattoo"'s slow climb entirely on the congested charts. The single is also selling pretty poorly, even with a discounted price on iTunes. On the Callout America chart, "Tattoo" is currently tied with "Tonight, Tonight" for the second highest "Strongly Dislike" rate. I'll definitely agree that there are so many new artists releasing new music that it's easy for artists who seemed to be broken such as Tyler Farr, Thompson Square, and Easton Corbin to get lost in the shuffle and the Clear Channel promotions such as "On the Verge" and world premiere hourly airplay make things even more difficult for newer artists trying to climb the charts, but if Hunter's label had played their cards right and released a more radio-friendly track as the lead single followed by a song such as "Storyline" or "You Think You Know Somebody" that may have earned more listener support, I doubt that Hunter Hayes' second single would still be at #26 after 19 weeks.
I still can't figure out why Warner Music Nashville released "Tattoo" as the second single. On Spotify, "Tattoo" still has fewer streams (1,613,541) than "You Think You Know Somebody" (5,194,895) and "Storyline" (1,961,725) even though it's been getting played on the radio for several months. My opinion is that radio and listeners really just don't care for this single much and so it's just kind of getting lost in the shuffle.
Since Hunter's only on his second single, his label should be able to just stick with "Tattoo" for another 15 weeks and get Hunter a top 15 or top 10 hit similarly to the way Stoney Creek was able to keep "Everything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About," a song that had a similar problem of just not moving the needle with listeners or radio, from getting lost in the shuffle. After "Tattoo"'s run, Hunter will probably release "You Think You Know Somebody" or "Storyline" and these two could go either way. Hunter may not have enough momentum to get another single up the charts, or the third single could end up being a pretty big hit. This is kind of the same situation Dan + Shay will encounter when they try to release the obvious hit "What You Do to Me" after "Show You Off"'s slow climb.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 11, 2014 21:55:50 GMT -5
There's a lot of dislike of HH because of how he was everywhere very fast. And since he has ayotful audience, he really seems to have same issues that plagued all teen stars at one point or another. Fatigue. That's at least partially to blame for his fallout scored.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 22:57:54 GMT -5
There's a lot of dislike of HH because of how he was everywhere very fast. And since he has ayotful audience, he really seems to have same issues that plagued all teen stars at one point or another. Fatigue. That's at least partially to blame for his fallout scored. Really? I never felt Hunter was overexposed, and I'm a pretty massive Country fan :). Aside from a unique voice, I never felt that Hunter's team played up his strengths all that well; they spent all their time on banking on the young girls to eat up "Wanted," and banked on that same crowd connecting to "Invisible." Frankly, I thnk the teen heartthrob image has held him back, and harmed his chances at becoming an artist with a more mature image. If he does come out with something that connects with a broader audience, he might want to hold on to hope there is some interest with radio and fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 2:07:54 GMT -5
Go figure...one of only two singles I like from him (the other being "Everybody's Got Somebody But Me") and it's struggling. Overall I think the hook of this song is pretty weak (and I think that might be why people just aren't "into" it), but this is one of the few vocal performances I like from him (I generally can't stand his voice), and I think the melody is very strong as well. Kat5Kind, Warner Music Nashville has been working this as hard as they can for months now. They have ads out almost weekly for this song and they've discounted it to 69 cents on iTunes for the last several weeks, and it's still selling less than most songs that are $1.29 and have similar amounts of radio airplay. They've definitely been asking radio to pump this up into higher rotation but radio has a lot of other songs to pick from right now, too, and most of those other artists have more momentum. So I agree with some of the above comments...I don't think this is looking like it will turn into a big hit, although I think the label will stick with it at least into December before possibly coming back with a new single in January or February.
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Post by sapphire on Oct 12, 2014 8:10:03 GMT -5
Hunter is releasing this song in UK as a pop song. Here's the video of the UK version if you want to hear: vimeo.com/106308525Source: link
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Post by pumpkinswirl on Oct 12, 2014 8:12:57 GMT -5
Hunter is releasing this song in UK as a pop song. Here's the video of the UK version if you want to hear: vimeo.com/106308525Source: linkHunter should release every song as a pop song.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 12, 2014 12:49:15 GMT -5
Hunter is releasing this song in UK as a pop song. Here's the video of the UK version if you want to hear: vimeo.com/106308525Source: linkHunter should release every song as a pop song. You mean he wasn't already?
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Post by someguy on Oct 12, 2014 13:54:40 GMT -5
There's Wild Card, Secret Love, and especially Storyline left. They could also possibly go with You Think You Know Somebody, which (if radio would get its crap together and play a few slower songs) could be big. A lot of people can connect to it. It's not just Invisible that's the problem, it's also how cluttered the charts are. His label needs to try to get this moving soon. This is so frustrating to watch. (I post on this way too much, but he IS one of my top favorites!) Oh yeah, there's very good material left ("Storyline" and "You Think You Know Somebody" especially). I'm just not sure what the chances are of radio biting after two underperformers in a row. Not saying I want that to happen though. I like Hunter and his album, I'm just not overly optimistic about a third single hitting it big at this point.
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Post by McCreerian on Oct 12, 2014 13:59:32 GMT -5
You know awhile back I posted alot of similarities between Hunter and Bryan White (who also got famous around age 20 and sang Pop Country by 90s standards). Bryan's radio career didn't last too long but I was hoping Hunter wouldn't follow Bryan's comparison with that.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 13, 2014 11:46:35 GMT -5
You know awhile back I posted alot of similarities between Hunter and Bryan White (who also got famous around age 20 and sang Pop Country by 90s standards). Bryan's radio career didn't last too long but I was hoping Hunter wouldn't follow Bryan's comparison with that. I doubt he does. He'll just have a 'sophomore slump.' He's also releasing relationship-based songs in a land of hook-filled songs inspired by the 'bro' phenomenon.
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Post by 19waves on Oct 21, 2014 18:39:24 GMT -5
so is this single dead yet? lol goodness it had a crazy week. it gained some spins and AI compared this time last week but it looked like a roller coster. this song is kinda just there, hasn't really done much for him.
i dont see his career over (second album season maybe :/) but on his fb he's over in the UK and Germany so he's gonna have a career somewhere (country genre idk on that)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:55:50 GMT -5
This song continues to look pretty stagnant in the 20's. At this point I don't even know if it'll be able to hang on long enough to make the top 20. Anyway, on a somewhat related note, the Storyline album is free this week on Google Play ( click here). Kurt posted this in the News/Non-Singles thread but I figured I'd post it here as well :)
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Post by someguy on Nov 14, 2014 17:43:24 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder if this will go recurrent this week. Its daily losses have picked up a bit, as it continues to flounder in the 20s. At this point, I don't see it ever making the top 20, so I'm not sure what Atlantic has to gain by continuing to push it. Maybe this close to the holidays, they'll leave it alone, and then try something new in January.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 14, 2014 18:43:32 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder if this will go recurrent this week. Its daily losses have picked up a bit, as it continues to flounder in the 20s. At this point, I don't see it ever making the top 20, so I'm not sure what Atlantic has to gain by continuing to push it. Maybe this close to the holidays, they'll leave it alone, and then try something new in January. Yeah, there's no chance this song makes the top 20. Believe it or not, "Tattoo" has been stuck between #30 to #25 on Billboard for nine consecutive weeks, and if Hunter does not go recurrent (which I believe he won't), that will be ten consecutive weeks stagnant in that range. He's been stuck in the same exact position on MB for the same amount of time. Hunter's only lost 59 spins and 0.035 in audience on MB since Sunday so he'll need a steeper drop than that over the next two days for me to believe that Billboard will send him recurrent but regardless; the end is near for "Tattoo".
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 14, 2014 19:29:51 GMT -5
I'm shocked at all this. When I first heard the album "Tattoo" stood out to me as a hit. I really don't know what direction they'll go next. I just hope it's a slump and radio isn't getting ready to toss him out.
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