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Post by rsmatto on Jun 28, 2014 13:39:11 GMT -5
"Love You Like That" Canaan Smith Mercury Nashville Add Date: July 21, 2014. It's finally here, Canaan Smith's official sophomore single.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 13:44:37 GMT -5
Better late than never. I think Mercury would treat this like a debut single since his first "We Got Us" barely dented the top 45 and was over two years ago now.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Jun 28, 2014 13:49:40 GMT -5
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jun 28, 2014 16:18:47 GMT -5
Absolutely loved "We Got Us". I hope this does better for him
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Post by mus1cr0w on Jun 28, 2014 20:56:36 GMT -5
My lord this is boring. Canaan make Cole Swindell sound like Freddie Mercury.
I liked some of the earlier stuff that he had... at CRS a few years ago... but most of the links on the /mp3 page were underwhelming. Perhaps he's a better writer than star?
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Post by kw9461 on Jun 28, 2014 23:49:50 GMT -5
His voice sounds really good on this, but the melody is just terribly bland. Sounds like a Cole Swindell or Thomas Rhett song (and I don't mean that in a good way). I just don't see Canaan breaking through, pretty much all of the material I've heard from him has been subpar
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 21, 2014 22:58:49 GMT -5
His voice sounds really good on this, but the melody is just terribly bland. Sounds like a Cole Swindell or Thomas Rhett song (and I don't mean that in a good way). I just don't see Canaan breaking through, pretty much all of the material I've heard from him has been subpar First time I heard this since that link of the studio version was taken down (as it's now available on iTunes). This didn't leave an impression on me back in June and it doesn't right now. For someone who has been absent from country radio for two years since his first single, I was expecting much more from this song and can't believe this was the best effort they could muster. I completely agree on the non existent melody. I was never the biggest fan of his vocals but it does sounds pretty good here. The song itself though is just as mediocre and vanilla as it could get. 23 first week stations is a pretty decent total but I was expecting a little more in his first week. I just can't see this song doing much better than "We Got Us" did.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jul 23, 2014 6:16:36 GMT -5
I like this song and I think it has a lot more potential to be a hit song because "Love You Like That" is more uptempo than "We Got Us" and you can groove along to this one.
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Post by kanimal on Jul 25, 2014 11:22:23 GMT -5
Any idea why this is rocketing on iTunes? At about #50 right now, so better than the other, higher-profile songs that impacted this week.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 26, 2014 15:40:14 GMT -5
Anybody notice the audio is not up on All Access yet the add date was this past Monday? It was never up when it was in the future releases section nor is it on the Cool New Music page. YouTube is no luck either. Just on iTunes, and that link that was taken down a while ago when the thread was first started.
Canaan's had a weird start so far to me. He released his debut "We Got Us" in early 2012. Then the song flamed out in the 40's and Mercury decided to keep him on the roster for over two years before releasing his follow up. Then the fact they never put the audio up anywhere on All Access, not to mention the song is just painfully average IMO, especially being off the radio for so long. Maybe I expected too much for his sophomore single but I'm afraid this song won't get him that hit their looking for.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Aug 5, 2014 1:25:10 GMT -5
Actually Sabre14 it had such a high debut on the Hot Country Songs Chart at #32. It debuted at #58 last week and now it is at #55. Off to a great start!
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 5, 2014 1:51:12 GMT -5
Actually Sabre14 it had such a high debut on the Hot Country Songs Chart at #32. It debuted at #58 last week and now it is at #55. Off to a great start! First of all, I personally don't take the Hot Country Songs chart seriously and I know others are with me in thinking it's a silly chart. Secondly this is in no way off to a great start. It got 23 adds on it's impact date (not bad but certainly nothing to write home about) and it's up just over .200 in audience. I'm not saying wont be a hit for Caanan, even though I bet against it which I explained why in my earlier posts in this thread, but it's still way too early to tell. I'd say its off to rather pedestrian start rather than a "great" one myself.
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Post by jferstler on Aug 12, 2014 13:16:20 GMT -5
I have heard this several times on the radio all ready. I see this getting close to the top 40, if not 33-40 peak. It'll be hard for it to do much more with how crowded the charts are with big names right now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 21:39:43 GMT -5
I don't mind this song, but it kinda falls apart when it comes to the bridge. I ain't gonna do it like a pretty city boy I'm a fishin' in the dark nitty gritty boy So let me love you [chorus] The "pretty city boy" lyric implies (to me) that country folks are better than city folks, and that seems like a rather perplexing choice of lyrics considering that all major country stations are located in big cities. I guess, to me, it just doesn't make sense for a newcomer like Canaan to essentially offer up a song (or at least a few lyrics) that might offend city people. I know we've had plenty of songs about "how awesome the country is" or "how the country is better than cities" but most of them generally didn't put down city folks. I could see PD's possibly taking offense from that lyric. Country has really become a more urbanized format--a lot of artists still sing about the rural country life, but they generally don't blast the city people. I've also wondered if maybe this is the reason that "Small Town Throwdown" has really slowed up in the teens, as Brantley sings Somebody said them city boys Are ridin' around lookin' for some trouble If they bring it 'cross that county line You know there's gonna be a rumbleHonestly, both sets of lyrics (from "Love You Like That" and "Small Town Throwdown") seem more like something you'd hear on a FarmersOnly.com commercial. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 2, 2014 21:41:35 GMT -5
I don't mind this song, but it kinda falls apart when it comes to the bridge. I ain't gonna do it like a pretty city boy I'm a fishin' in the dark nitty gritty boy So let me love you [chorus] The "pretty city boy" lyric implies that country folks are better than city folks, and that seems like a rather perplexing choice of lyrics considering that all major country stations are located in big cities. I guess, to me, it just doesn't make sense for a newcomer like Canaan to essentially offend city people. I know we've had plenty of songs about "how awesome the country is" or "how the country is better than cities" but most of them generally didn't put down city folks. I could see PD's possibly taking offense from that lyric. Country has really become a more urbanized format--a lot of artists still sing about the rural country life, but they generally don't blast the city people. I've also wondered if maybe this is the reason that "Small Town Throwdown" has really slowed up in the teens, as Brantley sings Somebody said them city boys Are ridin' around lookin' for some trouble If they bring it 'cross that county line You know there's gonna be a rumbleHonestly, both sets of lyrics (from "Love You Like That" and "Small Town Throwdown") seem more like something you'd hear on a FarmersOnly.com commercial. What's even funnier is look at Canaan.... I think he fits more in the city boy crowd, just saying
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 2, 2014 22:38:08 GMT -5
This song is just so painfully average and dull to me that PD's might not add it because of it's lack to move any sort of needle; Though the bridge is definitely my least favorite part of the song and the lyrics to imply city boys are not as good as country boys, is a lyric that makes me roll my eyes.
I know I've harped on this before but I still am flabbergasted that Mercury kept him under wraps for two years to release this. Judging by the way "Love You Like That's" chart run has done thus far, it doesn't seem like it will be the one to break Canaan through.
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Post by avalyn on Sept 9, 2014 10:34:22 GMT -5
His love interest in the video is his new wife, Christy, and she's the one he wrote the song about/for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 0:11:58 GMT -5
Is this guy that well-known outside of country radio? I know he had a stint on The Amazing Race, but I wouldn't think he'd be super popular from that alone.
I'm just continually perplexed by how well this song is selling. It's currently #56 on iTunes country, which puts it ahead of current singles from The Swon Brothers, Chase Bryant, Rascal Flatts, David Nail, Hunter Hayes, Dan + Shay, Chris Young, Tyler Farr, Jerrod Niemann, Joe Nichols, Easton Corbin, Montgomery Gentry, Josh Turner...
"Love You Like That" is only at 2.1 million on Billboard, and most of the other songs in that audience range are well outside of the top 200 on iTunes country. Tyler Farr is at #121 on iTunes right now, Jerrod Niemann is at #689, Joe Nichols at #446, Easton Corbin at #207, Montgomery Gentry at #554, Josh Turner at #190, etc. Furthermore, most of those other artists have at least a few big hits under their belts. Obviously there are some other things in play here...for example, the Jerrod Niemann and Joe Nichols songs are available on albums so a good chunk of people don't need to buy those ones.
It seems that Canaan has a strong core fan-base, and it seems to be rapidly growing as the sales have been steady for well over 6 weeks now. But this song has had virtually no buzz on radio, which leads me to conclude that he must not have impressed radio people enough on his radio tour?
It's just a really odd situation. There has been so little buzz or hype for this song from the radio side of things.
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Post by carriekins on Oct 4, 2014 9:00:56 GMT -5
It is being played on the Highway, so he is getting exposure there, as well. It came on yesterday, but I didn't really pay much attention to it, other than to note that it was on.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 4, 2014 13:13:27 GMT -5
It is being played on the Highway, so he is getting exposure there, as well. It came on yesterday, but I didn't really pay much attention to it, other than to note that it was on. Pretty much the same here. This song is just so unmemorable to me. It's also going nowhere at country radio so I wonder how long before Mercury officially pulls the plug and goes with something else, if at all. Canaan just isn't connecting with PD's and judging by his first two singles, I can't say I blame them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 20:42:20 GMT -5
It is being played on the Highway, so he is getting exposure there, as well. It came on yesterday, but I didn't really pay much attention to it, other than to note that it was on. I was aware that the Highway is playing this but they're playing other low-charting songs, too, and none of them are selling nearly as well as Canaan's is, so I don't think that Highway explanation fully explains this. An ad from Mercury Nashville in last night's Country Aircheck issue confirms that Canaan has the 3rd best sales per spin ratio of any song on the charts, and exposure on SiriusXM alone isn't enough to generate this kind of response from consumers. I still don't think this is going to be a very big hit but I still find it incredibly odd how this particular track is selling so well as compared to other songs with not a lot of airplay.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 14, 2014 22:36:48 GMT -5
It is being played on the Highway, so he is getting exposure there, as well. It came on yesterday, but I didn't really pay much attention to it, other than to note that it was on. I was aware that the Highway is playing this but they're playing other low-charting songs, too, and none of them are selling nearly as well as Canaan's is, so I don't think that Highway explanation fully explains this. An ad from Mercury Nashville in last night's Country Aircheck issue confirms that Canaan has the 3rd best sales per spin ratio of any song on the charts, and exposure on SiriusXM alone isn't enough to generate this kind of response from consumers. I still don't think this is going to be a very big hit but I still find it incredibly odd how this particular track is selling so well as compared to other songs with not a lot of airplay.Yet Canaan still can't get traction with country radio. I still am unsure if this is more the song quality (which I personally leaves much to be desired) or the fact that he didn't make a good enough impression on PD's this past year. I too find it incredibly odd that "Love You Like That" has sold so well despite it's low chart position. Perhaps he has built a good enough underground type following but I don't think that would be enough to make or break sales alone. The fact this has sold so well yet country radio hasn't fully bought in thus far, has to be discouraging if your Mercury Nashville since they've spent much in the way of resources on Canaan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 22:42:32 GMT -5
I'll be very surprised if "Love You Like That" ends up never taking off with these amazing digital sales. Maybe Canaan will be chosen for the iHeartRadio On the Verge program (provided the program does resume at some point, as there hasn't been a new OTV artist chosen for any format since Sept. 22). I will say that I'm surprised to see this single doing so well on iTunes, though. This just never really struck me as the type of song that would be a huge seller.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 20, 2014 21:21:03 GMT -5
Go figure, just as I suspect that Canaan will never take off even with his digital sales, "Love You Like That" is picking up steam. It moves from #49 to #47 on MB and from #44 to #42 on Billboard. He's up nearly 700k in audience on Billboard and over 900k in audience on MB. Not to mention 6 more adds this week. What's amazing is that it has over 1900 points on MB but is still at just #47 and over 3.1 million in audience on Billboard but is only at #42. In other words we need a house cleaning in the worst way possible and it looks like it will finally come before the Holidays.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 20, 2014 21:50:47 GMT -5
Go figure, just as I suspect that Cannan will never take off even with his digital sales, "Love You Like That" is picking up steam. It moves from #49 to #47 on MB and from #44 to #42 on Billboard. He's up nearly 700k in audience on Billboard and over 900k in audience on MB. Not to mention 6 more adds this week. What's amazing is that it has over 1900 points on MB but is still at just #47 and over 3.1 million in audience on Billboard but is only at #42. In other words we need a house cleaning in the worst way possible and it looks like it will finally come before the Holidays. Just saying I predicted this one would take off a month ago in the Dean Alexander thread. :) I've kinda had this song mixed in with Joey Hyde and Canaan Smith's in terms of them being kinda forgettable. With Joey's looking like a dud I think one of the other two will take off. I'm placing my bet that this one will join Joey in flopping. Shame too as his other song from two years ago "Moments" was pretty good. (for once a prediction of mine comes true lol) I also find this one is growing on my quickly, it's nothing special really but I like the melody. p.s. I also find it funny how much his image changed between his debut single and this one. Makes the lines "I could never do it like a pretty city boy / I’m more a fishin’ in the dark nitty gritty boy" sound really fake. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 20:52:38 GMT -5
Go figure, just as I suspect that Canaan will never take off even with his digital sales, "Love You Like That" is picking up steam. It moves from #49 to #47 on MB and from #44 to #42 on Billboard. He's up nearly 700k in audience on Billboard and over 900k in audience on MB. Not to mention 6 more adds this week. What's amazing is that it has over 1900 points on MB but is still at just #47 and over 3.1 million in audience on Billboard but is only at #42. In other words we need a house cleaning in the worst way possible and it looks like it will finally come before the Holidays. Canaan has actually seen a noticeable uptick over the last 2+ weeks now. Going back to the 10/18 Billboard chart (from Monday the 6th), "Love You Like That" was still at #48, up less than 200k from the week before (when it was also at #48). Of note is that Mercury label-mate Easton Corbin had raced ahead; Easton was at #47 with 2.3 mil in audience, while Canaan was nearly 500k behind, at just over 1.8 mil. But then on last Monday's chart, Canaan jumped 4 spots to #44 with a gain of 644k in audience, whereas Easton--whose song is 7 weeks younger--couldn't even gain 50k. And now on last night's chart it was another solid gain for Canann--up almost 700k--and a +2 move up to #42. "Love You Like That" is now at 3.146 mil in total audience, whereas Easton is back at 2.462 mil. Now I'm in no way suggesting that Mercury is "sabotaging" Easton's song in favor of Canaan's. I was merely comparing the two because Easton had gotten off to the faster start and Canaan was struggling, and now suddenly it's Canaan ahead of Easton by a good ways. I am sure that Mercury is working both songs as best as they can...I simply think that the reason Canaan has caught a bit of a spark here is due to his strong sales-per-spin ratio (which Mercury did a good job at highlighting). It definitely seems that LYLT has picked up some bigger stations and higher-audience spins. With all that said, I'm still not convinced that this will go top 30 (whereas I have more hope for Easton's song despite the last couple of slower weeks he's had).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 23:50:58 GMT -5
Well, just when things were looking up for this one after a good 2-week stretch, now Canaan has suddenly hit a brick wall. "Love You Like That" lost over 200k on Monday's Billboard chart, and it's down another 400k over the last 3 days alone at Mediabase. It's 7-day bullet is only -2 so it's not exactly collapsing, but it's definitely losing some high-audience spins from somewhere. It wasn't that long ago (maybe 7-10 days or so) that Canaan's bullet was pushing 100 IIRC (can't look it up atm as the kworb archives aren't loading very well on my computer right now).
This looked like it was going to cruise into the top 40 but suddenly it might not get there at all--he's lost almost all the ground he'd gained recently, and then some.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 30, 2014 23:56:19 GMT -5
Well, just when things were looking up for this one after a good 2-week stretch, now Canaan has suddenly hit a brick wall. "Love You Like That" lost over 200k on Monday's Billboard chart, and it's down another 400k over the last 3 days alone at Mediabase. It's 7-day bullet is only -2 so it's not exactly collapsing, but it's definitely losing some high-audience spins from somewhere. It wasn't that long ago (maybe 7-10 days or so) that Canaan's bullet was pushing 100 IIRC (can't look it up atm as the kworb archives aren't loading very well on my computer right now). This looked like it was going to cruise into the top 40 but suddenly it might not get there at all--he's lost almost all the ground he'd gained recently, and then some. Yeah I noticed that too. I didn't bring anything up since I was waiting for this to be a little speed bump for Canaan since the past two weeks were looking onward and upward for "Love You Like That" and that those baffling great digital sales were finally being noticed by country radio. Now he's been losing audience rapidly and is pretty much were he was before he started to take off. This chart run has been straight out of the twilight zone, I swear. First it takes forever to even crack the top 50 on MB. Then it kind of stays stuck in the mud despite great sales. Then it starts to gain audience and looks to be top 40 bound, and now its decreasing out of the blue after such a good two week stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 11:36:57 GMT -5
I agree that this is bizarre. Even with a big clean-out this week, Canaan's single is still struggling with these shocking sales. I still think that this has to become a hit eventually since these sales are ridiculously high for a new artist getting very little airplay, but this chart run has certainly been remarkably strange so far.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 2, 2014 15:00:39 GMT -5
I'm stunned that this lost over 630k in audience this week, though it still was able to increase 33 spins thus keeping its bullet on MB. All of that momentum that Canaan built up the previous two weeks is gone, and it couldn't have come at a worse time with the house cleaning going on right now.
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