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Post by mylifeback on Aug 7, 2014 13:15:00 GMT -5
Ugh, this is frustrating & disheartening. I guess we wait to find out what's happening, but it's ridiculous they couldn't get a new single out weeks ago.
I was just listening to the album this morning; I really love it & there are a number of choices available for singles. Just ugh.
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Post by T on Aug 7, 2014 16:24:35 GMT -5
I'm not surprise one bit. RCA always throws Sara around. I remember someone saying a few weeks ago to just give it time & not blame the label. Ha, I've been blaming the label for years now on how they handle Sara its RIDICULOUS. If you want my honest opinion, Sara probably gets treated worse then any other artist out there that's mainstream or "popular". She's constantly over looked by Award Shows, never featured on CMT, barely featured on GAC, and don't even get me started on her label. I don't understand, and for her entire career I've been shaking my head. She could sing Miranda, Taylor, Carrie, and the rest of them under the table (IMO) but I guess it is what it is. As a dedicated fan it IS disheartening and its sad. She should be #1, she should have a single out on radio NOW. I don't know what country music is thinking. Its hard for me to admit this, but I feel like the legacy Sara will leave behind will always be over looked & will always be 2nd best. We can thank Joe Galante & the rest of RCA for this. One of her best albums to date, and look at what happens. Every damn time.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 7, 2014 17:51:25 GMT -5
I'm not surprise one bit. RCA always throws Sara around. I remember someone saying a few weeks ago to just give it time & not blame the label. Ha, I've been blaming the label for years now on how they handle Sara its RIDICULOUS. If you want my honest opinion, Sara probably gets treated worse then any other artist out there that's mainstream or "popular". She's constantly over looked by Award Shows, never featured on CMT, barely featured on GAC, and don't even get me started on her label. I don't understand, and for her entire career I've been shaking my head. She could sing Miranda, Taylor, Carrie, and the rest of them under the table (IMO) but I guess it is what it is. As a dedicated fan it IS disheartening and its sad. She should be #1, she should have a single out on radio NOW. I don't know what country music is thinking. Its hard for me to admit this, but I feel like the legacy Sara will leave behind will always be over looked & will always be 2nd best. We can thank Joe Galante & the rest of RCA for this. One of her best albums to date, and look at what happens. Every damn time. First, liking your own post is weird. Second, Gary Overton is the head of Sony Nashville. Joe Galante left in 2010. Many blame him (Overton) for not pushing Carrie Underwood instead of Miranda Lambert for winning awards, etc.. However, Underwood consistently outperforms Lambert in sales, tours, and hits.
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Post by someguy on Aug 7, 2014 20:27:08 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst handled major label singles/albums in recent history. If the album tanks and a second single never takes off, it won't be for lack of quality material.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 7, 2014 20:32:21 GMT -5
This has to be one of the worst handled major label singles/albums in recent history. If the album tanks and a second single never takes off, it won't be for lack of quality material. Assuming there really is an actual second single. Who knows - perhaps "Can't Stop Loving You" being sent to radio was a figment of our imagination. Just checked All Access again, and it still is nowhere to be found.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 7, 2014 21:24:28 GMT -5
What in the literal fuck is going on? I don't understand this at all. She gave RCA a perfect album for today's country radio and nothing is coming out. Such potential is being squandered and I don't understand why. ??? She's been talking about this single and there's a single cover for it, so everything pointed to this being released. I wonder if the label is having problems getting this out because of Isaac Slade's involvement? That's the only thing I can think of that would even make sense as to why there's been such delay in getting it out there. This has to be one of the worst handled major label singles/albums in recent history. If the album tanks and a second single never takes off, it won't be for lack of quality material. Amen. This album currently stands at a very high 'critical acclaim' rating on Metacritic, on par with Kacey Musgraves and Miranda Lambert, i.e.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Aug 7, 2014 21:35:03 GMT -5
With all due respect to all involved.....this just isn't very good. It isn't exceptional...it is painfully average and the lack of passion is the result.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Aug 8, 2014 0:13:51 GMT -5
i think this song is full of vibrant beautiful vocals.. i also think it is filled with a ton of passion. i hope radio will jump at this.
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Post by T on Aug 8, 2014 4:43:29 GMT -5
Sorry everybody i did not mean to like my own post. I do not have desktop and sometimes i mess up on my cell phone. ANYWAYS - This is the same thing that happened with "Tonight", "Coalmine", "Niagra", "Something's Never Change", "Anywhere" & now "Can't Stop". I've been a serious hard core fan & anybody else who has followed Sara's career should see the same pattern I do. Some of her best songs get either pulled last minute, or aren't promoted. Call me crazy but sometimes I question if somebody higher up in the industry doesn't like Sara or what the heck is the deal. Its absurd the album is critically aclaimed, in all my years of being a Sara fan I can honestly say that every song on this album pretty much has the potential to be a hit. But they are way to worried about the following - 1) She's not Miranda 2) She's not Garth 3) She's Female 4) She's 43 5) She's never really been the most popular With that being said its the only reasons I can think of and if any of that is the case its BS. you know with the way country radio is now days I'm tired of hearing the industry whine and cry about the lack of females on radio but yet they can't even promote a follow up single for a 15+ year veteran. Yes Sara's never been the most popular but I'd say most people in the US recognize her name, face, and music. Her entire career she has represented exactly what country-music is all about and this is the way the industry & her label treat her. Heck, even the Opry won't bat an eye at making her a member. Sara lives & breathes country, its in her veins. Those who don't believe me need to check out her performances of Mule Skinner Blues, Blue Moon of Kentucky, Etc on youtube. Country music is DYING, Sara has evolved to fit exactly what radio wants and she STILL doesn't get any back up or support. Sorry for my ranting I'm just beyond fed up. Every new era Sara does starts off so exciting & ends so disapointing. And yea I said ends, because the Slow me Down era is already over before it really began. And for a big fan like me, sucks. What in the literal f**k is going on? I don't understand this at all. She gave RCA a perfect album for today's country radio and nothing is coming out. Such potential is being squandered and I don't understand why. ??? She's been talking about this single and there's a single cover for it, so everything pointed to this being released. I wonder if the label is having problems getting this out because of Isaac Slade's involvement? That's the only thing I can think of that would even make sense as to why there's been such delay in getting it out there. This has to be one of the worst handled major label singles/albums in recent history. If the album tanks and a second single never takes off, it won't be for lack of quality material. Amen. This album currently stands at a very high 'critical acclaim' rating on Metacritic, on par with Kacey Musgraves and Miranda Lambert, i.e. Good theory, however if Isaac isn't on board by now then RCA needs to think fast. Also he agreed and knew doing this song would be featured on the album thus could potentially be a single. So still what the heck. I can't see RCA pushing a project / "promoting" a single without Isaac & his people already being aware or agreeing to it. As far as I see Sara & her fans are the only one's promoting or talking about it being a single. So there really (to me) seems to be no excuse. But I guess if Sara is happy with everything then why should I complain or question, I'm not in the industry so what do I know.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 8, 2014 10:16:32 GMT -5
Wishful thinking here, but RCA could pull a 'Lady Antebellum' and rerelease Slow Me Down with added songs and start promoting one of the 'new songs'. I don't know what is going on over there, but Sara Evans is definitely bleeding momentum here from the top 25 title track (I think that one peaked a few years ago).
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 8, 2014 11:50:11 GMT -5
Wishful thinking here, but RCA could pull a 'Lady Antebellum' and rerelease Slow Me Down with added songs and start promoting one of the 'new songs'. I don't know what is going on over there, but Sara Evans is definitely bleeding momentum here from the top 25 title track (I think that one peaked a few years ago). Lady Antebellum wasted no time getting "Compass" out to radio after "Goodbye Town" peaked though. "Slow Me Down" went recurrent a long time ago now, so I don't know how much momentum can be salvaged doing that. Plus there haven't been any other singles from this album, so I don't think sending a newly recorded song to radio will make any difference with performance when the album is just a few months old and no other songs have been released from it. Perhaps the Isaac Slade involvement has something to do with this that .indulgecountry eluded to. But RCA had to know that might happen, unless Slade's label put the kibosh on things recently. If that's the case then RCA should have another track ready to go at radio instead for not having any songs going for adds currently. I'm sure there's a method to the madness for RCA to do this but I do wish to know what happened here.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 8, 2014 14:39:23 GMT -5
Just as a reminder, folks -- please don't post consecutively unless there is something really newsworthy or a significant amount of time has passed since your last post. The goal is to have these threads read as conversations between people. Thanks. I can't account for the two month gap between "Slow Me Down"'s peak and the original 21 July adds date for "Can't Stop Loving You," but I'm guessing that the push back from 21 July had to do with RCA Nashville accommodating the intended release of Garth's new single (there was an ad in either Country Aircheck or Billboard Country Update saying he would have new music to radio that week). Of course, that postponement turned out to be pointless because Garth's single wound up delayed, anyway. RCA Nashville's Jake Owen is scheduled to go for adds on 11 August now, Tyler Farr (from sister label Columbia Nashville) on 18 August, and now RCA Nashville's Chris Young gets 25 August. All three are coming off #1 Mediabase chart peaks, which means they have more momentum to lose at radio than Sara. That likely helped them to get August release dates over Sara. I don't think that Labor Day is traditionally a big adds day, and scheduling a 1 September adds date might be tantamount to saying that RCA Nashville doesn't expect a lot of adds (on the other hand, it may make it easier to be #1 most added). Beyond that, well, September is Garth's new target, so it's possible there will be a hold on a new adds date for Sara until RCA Nashville has a clearer idea of when Garth's single will go for adds. It seems clear, as several of you have already said, that Sara is nowhere near the top of RCA Nashville's radio priorities. I believe this is the by-product of some unfair factors, but also some legitimate factors. The unfair factors are obvious -- as T points out, Sara is a female artist in a time when country radio is incredibly closed off to female artists, and if a radio promotional team were seeking to allocate resources to the likeliest hits, Sara's single would not be one of them due to her gender and her age (not that I'm OK with this in principle). The legitimate factors include the fact that her album isn't a strong seller coupled with the fact that "Slow Me Down" wasn't much of a download seller either (it limped to a bit more than 200K in sales over more than eight months at radio). Slow Me Down's Metacritic score is the by-product of only five reviews (Miranda's and Kacey's current album scores come from eleven reviews apiece), one of them from the generally friendly Country Weekly and another from Billboard's Chuck Dauphin, who was promoting Sara's albums with interviews prior to its release (the fact that he reviewed the album goes against the common editorial policy of not letting someone who interviewed an artist review his/her/their album). I don't think the album achieved the critical mass of buzz that typically distinguishes an artistically and/or commercially significant release. So while it's true that RCA Nashville squandered whatever momentum there may have been with this long gap between the album's first and second singles, I agree with austin and someguy that there was little momentum to begin with. Even the right timing may not have yielded another hit from Slow Me Down in the current climate. I'm not especially fond of Slow Me Down as an album (mostly due to the songwriting), but I've really been perplexed by both single choices. I think Sara's best chances of a hit are "You Never Know" and her cover of "Not Over You," both of which have repetitive but catchy elements that would play better on in today's country radio climate. "Can't Stop Loving You" seems like the kind of grooveless midtempo adult contemporary pop tune that may have fit country radio better five years ago when Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now" was all the rage. These days, I think that Blake Shelton is the only one allowed to get away with that style at country radio, and he has the advantages of being a male and a major TV celebrity, in addition to having a very active PR team and management.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 8, 2014 20:00:37 GMT -5
1) She's Female 2) She's 43 3) She's never really been the most popular Although I don't listen to this genre anymore AT ALL, I can definitely see this being the reasons. IMO, since Restless, she hasn't had any REALLY good material since then.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 8, 2014 23:20:11 GMT -5
At this point I'm just hoping there's a really good reason that they've delayed the release so long. I'd hate to think that if there is some kind of internal struggle that looks ugly and Sara has to keep up a happy public appearance.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 8, 2014 23:39:11 GMT -5
Unrelated to the song, but I just bought tickets to see her with Joe Nichols tomorrow night at the Missouri State Fair. I'm so excited to be seeing her, as I've only ever seen her live once before, and it was way back in 2008. Now I'll be able to hear songs from two new albums. Oh and I've fallen in love with Joe from his Crickets era, so that was just icing on the cake. Really hoping she sings this one, though it's a duet, so I wonder if she will. She brought out (presumably) a guy from her band to perform the male part when covering P!nk's "Just Give Me a Reason" during her shows last year, so I've got my fingers crossed that she'll just do that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 15:13:13 GMT -5
1) She's Female 2) She's 43 3) She's never really been the most popular Although I don't listen to this genre anymore AT ALL, I can definitely see this being the reasons. IMO, since Restless, she hasn't had any REALLY good material since then. I agree Sara's material has been subpar lately; this single likely won't do her any favors. It boggles my mind how her label has made so many faceless, awful single choices, because an artist in Sara's position can no longer afford to release just anything. She needs songs that will connect with people (ex ALBS), and release something with some personality behind it.
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Post by Kari on Aug 12, 2014 9:35:50 GMT -5
Perhaps the Label pulled it so she wouldn't have to do battle on Impact day with Blake Shelton, Darius Rucker and Chris Young as they are all Impacting the same day? Just saw this on Country Aircheck Weekly.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 12, 2014 11:54:34 GMT -5
Perhaps the Label pulled it so she wouldn't have to do battle on Impact day with Blake Shelton, Darius Rucker and Chris Young as they are all Impacting the same day? Just saw this on Country Aircheck Weekly. The problem is that "Slow Me Down" went recurrent so long ago now, that releasing anything in late September or early October would basically be like throwing a person who didn't know how to swim into the ocean with no life preserver. Remember the original add date was in July. Then they moved it back to August 25th. And now it has no add date. I'm sure if they had known what the single release schedule would look like in August and early September, they might have released "Can't Stop Loving You" or another song from Slow Me Down immediately after "Slow Me Down" exited the charts.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 12, 2014 12:01:10 GMT -5
Yeah, it's possible they waited a bit either because they were trying to finalize getting this released with Isaac's co. or because they thought they could help her out by scheduling her to avoid as much competition as possible, but it appears that didn't work out since August became incredibly crowded for adds dates in a hurry. And even if they had released it a few months ago, the logjam on the charts may have still hindered this one, so I'm being optimistic in saying that I think waiting may still come to help her move up the charts with a bit more ease once the single does hit radio.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 18:20:40 GMT -5
Well I hate to say it but things really aren't looking very good for Sara. RCA's promo team already seemed to be stretched pretty thin with singles from Miranda, Love and Theft, Chris, and Jake, and now they're going to be launching new singles from BOTH Garth and Trisha within the next couple of weeks. And obviously since Garth and Trisha are high-profile, newly-signed artists, their comeback singles are going to be much more of a priority than Sara's 2nd single from Slow Me Down. Then with the momentum for both Chris Young and Jake Owen, both "Lonely Eyes" and "What We Ain't Got" will be above Sara on the totem pole as well. And "Somethin' Bad" is Miranda AND Carrie so that's a no-brainer...promoting that one is obviously a high priority for the label.
So who knows what'll happen, but as of now, this no longer has an adds date and RCA hasn't really made any comments on their plans here. Perhaps they could shift promotion of "Somethin' Bad" entirely over to Arista (since both the Arista and RCA promo teams have been jointly promoting it from the start), or maybe they could assign promotion of "Can't Stop Loving You" to Arista or Columbia for the time being? Arista has singles for Brad, Jerrod, The Swon Brothers, and Ben Rue right now, and Columbia has singles for Kenny, Tyler Farr, and Chase Rice, plus they're prepping to launch new singles for Leah Turner and Casey James.
Honestly, Sony should probably re-open a 4th imprint, because it's getting to the point where they have too many artists on each of the sub-labels and it just looks like they're going to be unable to support all of them at once. I think they should bring back the Monument or Epic label, or even BNA (or I suppose they could always pick a brand new name for a potential 4th sub-label).
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Post by someguy on Aug 26, 2014 21:52:46 GMT -5
At this point, I doubt a second single will even be pushed from Slow Me Down, which is so frustrating. Garth and Trisha will most likely get a lot of RCA's attention and resources for the next little while, as well as "Somethin' Bad" and Miranda's next single. By then, we'll be into October/November, and honestly, what's the point then?
Sara must be disappointed with how this album has been handled. "You Never Know" or "Sweet Spot" should have been sent out in the spring, instead of what has gone on here.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 26, 2014 22:12:56 GMT -5
At this point, I doubt a second single will even be pushed from Slow Me Down, which is so frustrating. Garth and Trisha will most likely get a lot of RCA's attention and resources for the next little while, as well as "Somethin' Bad" and Miranda's next single. By then, we'll be into October/November, and honestly, what's the point then? Sara must be disappointed with how this album has been handled. "You Never Know" or "Sweet Spot" should have been sent out in the spring, instead of what has gone on here. I don't think another single will be pushed either at this point. RCA clearly has it's priorities in many different places right now and their table full with set to debut Garth and Trisha's new singles, as well as pushing the newly released Jake and Chris releases and continuing Miranda's duet. Not to mention the desperate attempt to revive Love and Theft's single with an add in the weekly chart issues yesterday, even though it appeared that "Night You'll Never Forget" was finished. I'm not one to bash labels for how they decide to manage their rosters artists or their promoted singles, but this song being pushed back then pulled has made me shake my head and I hope Sara can come back strong whenever a new single will be on the radio.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 26, 2014 23:08:05 GMT -5
It just doesn't make sense that this is happening. Slow Me Down is the most radio friendly and marketable album she could've made and RCA is wasting all of that potential. I just don't get it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 4, 2014 1:05:38 GMT -5
This big Sara Evans stan that I follow on Instagram posted something today that seemed to imply that "Put My Heart Down" has now been selected as the new second single for Slow Me Down. She just saw her in concert twice in the past week or so, so it's possible Sara said something at one of her shows. She didn't say anything about it (or "Can't Stop Loving You" for that matter) at the show I went to about a month ago (though she has been performing both of them -- the only songs from SMD aside from the title track in her current setlist), though things might have recently changed. We'll have to see. I'm hoping something comes of it and they get the single out fairly soon; "Put My Heart Down" would probably be a better choice for radio anyway.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Sept 4, 2014 1:09:35 GMT -5
I'm not happy with the situation but if "Put My Heart Down" is the new single I'd think that's for the best as I think it's the most radio friendly on the album. It's also my favorite Now let's just hope RCA commits to it better than "Anywhere"....
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 9, 2014 10:39:30 GMT -5
KSON in San Diego just added "Put My Heart Down" this week. It's only one add, so this doesn't mean it's the next single from Slow Me Down, but encouraging that perhaps that something is sent to radio by RCA.
I don't think any song on this album can be salvaged to be a hit on radio since the momentum and buzz from the release of the album is all but gone. However I am curious to see what RCA does with Sara in the near future since she just re-up'd with them last year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 16:16:12 GMT -5
KSON in San Diego just added "Put My Heart Down" this week. It's only one add, so this doesn't mean it's the next single from Slow Me Down, but encouraging that perhaps that something is sent to radio by RCA. I saw that yesterday too and was going to comment, but I just saw now that "Put My Heart Down" has indeed been confirmed as the new single, so I went ahead and put up a separate thread for that one. So just a heads up to everybody, I will probably be locking the "Can't Stop Loving You" thread later this week, now that this has been scrapped as the single.
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