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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 1, 2014 20:38:09 GMT -5
27-32K is kind of meh for Magic!. Their single is #1 (now #2) on iTunes, and their album is only $6.99. Should've been able to at least clear 50k. 27-32k is excellent for a new act! I was thinking below 20k.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jul 1, 2014 20:39:41 GMT -5
Everyone is making his album seem like some indie under the radar secret release, but damn. 20K is super low for an artist who had pretty big promo and just came off a career high last year. He should be at least hitting 35K lol. I think the whole pathetic begging thing may have turned people off as well as the bad press lingering from the end of the last era.
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Post by Rican@ on Jul 1, 2014 21:55:04 GMT -5
Everyone is making his album seem like some indie under the radar secret release, but damn. 20K is super low for an artist who had pretty big promo and just came off a career high last year. He should be at least hitting 35K lol. I think the whole pathetic begging thing may have turned people off as well as the bad press lingering from the end of the last era. I actually still expected him to do 50K based off his name. This prediction just feels absurd when you think about his popularity last year; however, he has made a mess of himself within a short period of time that the public is just not messing with him. It's shameful because "Get Her Back" is actually a catchy song (remix is better). These sales (even with the under the radar release) feel off for him. Yes it will understanding if he was coming off "Love & War" Robin but he is not. He should have gained enough fans from his last era to push pass 50K though. And who approves this album release too? The label was dumb enough to play up with his act too? Smh.
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Post by CookyMonzta on Jul 2, 2014 3:50:42 GMT -5
I hate to say I agree with you, but I do. It's a much deserving placement. I don't see a problem with that quite honestly. I mean people have done worse than try to make up mistakes they made previously.... It certainly more respectable than getting naked on a wrecking ball... or trying to sexualize religious imagery for sales. I actually think it's appropriate for him to release an album to get back his wife after he let fame and success go to his head and hurt his wife. Makes sense.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 2, 2014 8:05:17 GMT -5
I actually think it's appropriate for him to release an album to get back his wife after he let fame and success go to his head and hurt his wife. He's humiliating her further with this project, though How do you know? Did you ask her? I don't know I'd be kinda flattered if a guy recorded an album simply to get back with me and apologize to me after he very publicly embarrassed me. Most of you would start medaling in other people's relationships with he said she said rumors about infidelity. So I guess the response in this case doesn't surprise me. If it was a diva spreading her legs or playing the equivalent of a gay minstrel to sell records people would be fully in support of that without question.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 2, 2014 8:14:33 GMT -5
27-32K is kind of meh for Magic!. Their single is #1 (now #2) on iTunes, and their album is only $6.99. Should've been able to at least clear 50k. 27-32k is excellent for a new act! I was thinking below 20k. Not for an act who is currently about to hit #1 on the HOT 100. :o
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 2, 2014 8:20:21 GMT -5
^I never heard of Magic until 2 weeks ago!
27-32k for an unknown act is excellent.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 2, 2014 8:39:57 GMT -5
^I never heard of Magic until 2 weeks ago! 27-32k for an unknown act is excellent. Agreed. In terms of their album sales, we can't have higher expectations than we did for Far East Movement, Jay Sean, etc. Not yet, anyway.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 2, 2014 9:10:11 GMT -5
music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/chart-watch-robin-misses-paula-and-pharrell-204230184.htmlChart Watch: Robin Misses Paula (And Pharrell)By Paul Grein - Chart Watch We all know that Robin Thicke would really, really like to reunite with his estranged wife, Paula Patton. But right about now he also may be longing for a reunion with Pharrell Williams, the multiple Grammy-winner who produced and co-wrote (and was featured on) Thicke’s 2013 mega-hit “Blurred Lines.” Thicke’s new album, Paula, is on track to sell an anemic 20K to 25K copies in its first week. That would be about one-seventh of the first-week sales tally of his previous album, Blurred Lines, which sold 177K copies in its first week in August 2013. (Williams wasn’t involved with any of the songs on Paula.) "Blurred Lines" was in its ninth week at #1 on the Hot 100 the week the album debuted in the top spot on The Billboard 200. (The single would stay on top for a total of 12 weeks and become the #1 hit of 2013.) By contrast, "Get Her Back," the lead single from Paula, has yet to crack the Hot 100. In fact, only one of Thicke’s four post-“Blurred Lines” singles has cracked Billboard magazine’s flagship chart. That’s a sign of how difficult is to follow a monster hit. Some critics have suggested that Thicke is guilty of over-sharing with the public. Reviewing the album for Billboard, Clover Hope noted, “The begging begins about 55 seconds into ‘You’re My Fantasy,’ the opening track on Paula. Over gentle salsa strums, Robin Thicke pleads ‘please’ seven times in a row to a woman whose absence feels ghostlike … If it sounds like TMI, that’s because it is. Paula plays off how invasive and uncomfortable a celebrity breakup is — not just for the couple involved, but for those watching and, in this case, listening. Fans want to know, but maybe not this much.”
A specific problem for Thicke is that his contrite manner in recent months is the opposite of the carefree, even cocky persona he projected on “Blurred Lines,” and especially in the racy video. He may be confusing his fans.Thicke’s first-week tally is even below the first-week sales for Love After War, Thicke’s album that preceded Blurred Lines. That album sold 41K copies in its first week in December 2011. And that album was considered a dud for Thicke. His two albums before that, Something Else and Sex Therapy: The Session, both enjoyed triple-digit first week sales. Look for Trey Songz's sixth studio album,Trigga, to be next week’s top new entry, with first-week sales in the 85K range. (That should be enough to put it at #1 on The Billboard 200.) Also look for debuts by Seether's sixth studio album, Isolate & Medicate (about 35K); MAGIC!'s debut album, Don’t Kill The Magic! (about 27K); the Begin Again soundtrack; the late Jenni Rivera's sixth live album, 1969-Siempre, En Vivo Desde Monterrey, Parte 2; and Old Crow Medicine Show's ninth studio album, Remedy. I’ll have the exact sales tallies and rankings in my Chart Watch blog a week from Wednesday. Tomorrow’s blog will focus on Ed Sheeran's debut at #1 in both the U.S. and the U.K. with his sophomore album, x. The album is set to sell 211K copies in the U.S. in its first week.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 2, 2014 9:22:25 GMT -5
I can usually ignore first week sales because most of my favs rarely exceed sales expectations, however Paula is a horrible hot mess. There's no way I can bring myself to purchase it and this will be the first album/era I'll pass on.
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Post by Wave. on Jul 2, 2014 9:41:08 GMT -5
Everyone is making his album seem like some indie under the radar secret release, but damn. 20K is super low for an artist who had pretty big promo and just came off a career high last year. He should be at least hitting 35K lol. I think the whole pathetic begging thing may have turned people off as well as the bad press lingering from the end of the last era. I actually still expected him to do 50K based off his name. This prediction just feels absurd when you think about his popularity last year; however, he has made a mess of himself within a short period of time that the public is just not messing with him. It's shameful because "Get Her Back" is actually a catchy song (remix is better). These sales (even with the under the radar release) feel off for him. Yes it will understanding if he was coming off "Love & War" Robin but he is not. He should have gained enough fans from his last era to push pass 50K though. And who approves this album release too? The label was dumb enough to play up with his act too? Smh. I think this(obviously) affected him so bad that he basically threw this out of nowhere(I swear he announced Paula in the middle of June), and it seems he's not worried about the success this go round. Imo, I've would just released singles with no album annoucement. This is throwing the mainstream audiences off.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Jul 2, 2014 10:10:56 GMT -5
20k? Impossible. I would never expect Robin to sell so low in the first week, regardless of the circumstances. 50k was my minimal expectation.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jul 2, 2014 10:38:35 GMT -5
He's been getting horrible press for the album since it was announced. He's turned himself into a joke, so I'm not surprised that nobody wants to buy it.
And as far as Magic is concerned, I didn't expect much more. Their pre-orders have been really low (and at $6.99!). They are shaping up to be this year's Carly Rae Jespen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 11:25:52 GMT -5
Robin's destroyed his reputation in the past year.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 2, 2014 11:46:06 GMT -5
Robin's destroyed his reputation in the past year. He went from a has-been to having one of the most massive hits ever to being the most hated man in pop.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 2, 2014 12:40:13 GMT -5
Robin's destroyed his reputation in the past year. He went from a has-been to having one of the most massive hits ever to being the most hated man in pop. That's a little extreme. That honor goes to Beiber.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 2, 2014 13:01:46 GMT -5
YOUR NEW RELEASES: Hey, patriotic peeps! Let’s hold up a sparkler and examine the latest crop of new releases.
Trey Songz (Atlantic) 90-100k Seether (Bicycle Music/Concord) 33-38k Magic! (Latium/RCA) 27-30k Robin Thicke (Star Trak/Interscope) 20-23k Colt Ford (Average Joe's) 17-20k Hillsong Worship (Hillsong) 15-18k Old Crow Medicine Show (ATO) 14-17k
Now, if you'll excuse us, we're going to celebrate our nation's glorious birth and triumph over tyranny by getting shit-faced and blowing stuff up. (7/2p)
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jul 2, 2014 14:07:14 GMT -5
^At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Thicke fails to reach 20k.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jul 3, 2014 3:05:04 GMT -5
Check twitter if you want to know why his album isn't sell it anything. They had a hashtag #AskThicke where fans were supposed to ask him questions ok twitter, I'd say a good 75% of the tweets are either making fun of him for his pathetic attempts to get his wife back or accusing him of promoting rape with blurred lines. I'm surprised the label is actually going ahead with this.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Jul 3, 2014 3:29:20 GMT -5
Check twitter if you want to know why his album isn't sell it anything. They had a hashtag #AskThicke where fans were supposed to ask him questions ok twitter, I'd say a good 75% of the tweets are either making fun of him for his pathetic attempts to get his wife back or accusing him of promoting rape with blurred lines. I'm surprised the label is actually going ahead with this. Those top level promotional appearances he is doing this week are such a waste given that it will only amount to such a small number of sales. It seems that his label is supportive of him. I haven't heard the album yet or seen the credits for it, but I am assuming that it wasn't all that expensive to produce. And after a huge fall like this and a bit of an absence from the spotlight, he could embark upon a comeback. Everyone loves a comeback story right?
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jul 3, 2014 3:38:30 GMT -5
Those top level promotional appearances he is doing this week are such a waste given that it will only amount to such a small number of sales. It seems that his label is supportive of him. I haven't heard the album yet or seen the credits for it, but I am assuming that it wasn't all that expensive to produce. And after a huge fall like this and a bit of an absence from the spotlight, he could embark upon a comeback. Everyone loves a comeback story right? After this he's going to have to disappear for at least a year, stay out of the tabloids, and come back with a really strong first single, not some 70s AM Gold retread.
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Post by Push The Button on Jul 3, 2014 14:33:45 GMT -5
YOUR TOP 15: With the approaching holiday weekend—and varying traffic patterns at retail—please expect a greater-than-usual margin of error. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
*Trey Songz (Atlantic) 90-100k Ed Sheeran (Atlantic) 50-55k Sam Smith (Capitol) 45-50k Frozen (Walt Disney) 35-40k *Seether (Bicycle Music/Concord) 30-35k *Magic! (Latium/RCA) 27-30k Lana Del Rey (Interscope) 27-30k Miranda Lambert (RCA Nashville) 27-30k Now 50 (NOW) 23-26k Brantley Gilbert (Valory) 20-23k *Robin Thicke (Star Trak/Interscope) 20-23k *Colt Ford (Average Joe's) 17-20k *Hillsong Worship (Hillsong) 17-20k Linkin Park (Warner Bros.) 16-18k Jersey Boys Soundtrack (Rhino) 15-17k Coldplay (Parlophone) 15-17k
*Debuts
See below for a discussion of Warner U.K. head Max Lousada's worldwide marketing plan for Ed Sheeran, which powered the ginger-haired singer/songwriter to this week's big #1 and next week's likely #2. Meanwhile, Capitol's Sam Smith looks set for a very solid third week. (7/3p)
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Post by Duca on Jul 3, 2014 15:24:08 GMT -5
Check twitter if you want to know why his album isn't sell it anything. They had a hashtag #AskThicke where fans were supposed to ask him questions ok twitter, I'd say a good 75% of the tweets are either making fun of him for his pathetic attempts to get his wife back or accusing him of promoting rape with blurred lines. I'm surprised the label is actually going ahead with this. That was an epic PR fail. My favorite: Peff Soulsby @copperguts · Jul 1 There's no need to #AskThicke. You know he wants it.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 3, 2014 15:32:19 GMT -5
With these projections, Ed Sheeran will have sold more in 2 weeks than Lana did in 3.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 3, 2014 15:35:21 GMT -5
The Thicke situation just gets worse and worse.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 3, 2014 15:36:07 GMT -5
Check twitter if you want to know why his album isn't sell it anything. They had a hashtag #AskThicke where fans were supposed to ask him questions ok twitter, I'd say a good 75% of the tweets are either making fun of him for his pathetic attempts to get his wife back or accusing him of promoting rape with blurred lines. I'm surprised the label is actually going ahead with this. Those top level promotional appearances he is doing this week are such a waste given that it will only amount to such a small number of sales. It seems that his label is supportive of him. I haven't heard the album yet or seen the credits for it, but I am assuming that it wasn't all that expensive to produce. And after a huge fall like this and a bit of an absence from the spotlight, he could embark upon a comeback. Everyone loves a comeback story right? He wrote and produced the whole album by himself so it basically cost the label nothing to produce.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:39:04 GMT -5
Miranda Lambert is holding up amazingly!
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Post by grandelf on Jul 3, 2014 23:06:19 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/6150221/robin-thickes-paula-may-sell-20000-copies-in-its-first-weekRobin Thicke's 'Paula' May Sell 20,000 Copies In Its First WeekBy Keith Caulfield | July 03, 2014 5:05 PM EDT Robin Thicke's new album, "Paula," is off to a tepid sales start. Industry forecasters say the R&B singer, who hit a career high a year ago with his No. 1 Billboard Hot 100 hit "Blurred Lines," might sell around 20,000 to 25,000 copies of "Paula" by the end of the tracking week on July 6. The new set was released on July 1. That sales start would be a steep drop-off compared to the arrival of his last album, "Blurred Lines," which debuted with a career-high 177,000 copies in its first week according to Nielsen SoundScan. It also became his first No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart, following three earlier top 10 sets. If "Paula" sells as forecasted, it would tally the smallest debut for Thicke since "The Evolution of Robin Thicke" bowed with 20,000 in 2007. However, "Paula" could still sell enough to debut in the top 10 on the Billboard 200. If so, that would mark Thicke's fifth top 10 effort. The Billboard 200's new top 10 will be revealed on Wednesday, July 2. As for the No. 1 position on next week's Billboard 200, watch for Trey Songz's "Trigga" to open atop the list with around 90,000 to 100,000 sold. Other albums aiming for sizable debuts include: Seether's "Isolate and Medicate," with perhaps 35,000, MAGIC!'s "Don't Kill the Magic" with around 30,000 and Colt Ford's "Thanks For Listening" with 20,000.
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Post by josh on Jul 3, 2014 23:09:44 GMT -5
Oh god. I read that as Robin Thicke's 'Penis' May Sell 20,000 Copies In Its First Week
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Post by TylerG11 on Jul 3, 2014 23:52:54 GMT -5
Oh god. I read that as Robin Thicke's 'Penis' May Sell 20,000 Copies In Its First Week With a title like that, the album might actually sell close to the 50k range.
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