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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jul 4, 2014 5:26:04 GMT -5
Miranda Lambert will be sell a million by the end of the year. Im calling it now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 6:59:20 GMT -5
I am shocked at Trey but happy, i was expecting half of that. Robin Thicke will always love his voice, but I'm so over this whole self serving campaign and him using his personal life and mingling it with the music, so he can sit there with 20k for all I care. Is Paula even here for all this talking about her life?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 4, 2014 7:00:33 GMT -5
Yes, the win-back-his-wife campaign has been a big flop with the public, critics, and, probably, Ms. Paula Patton.
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Post by emilmortic on Jul 4, 2014 10:32:11 GMT -5
Damn, that's a huge tumble for Sheeran. But I guess this is the result of months of pre-order.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 4, 2014 10:50:46 GMT -5
Yes, the win-back-his-wife campaign has been a big flop with the public, critics, and, probably, Ms. Paula Patton. If "Paula" hits 10 and not 11, all that will be remembered is that RT nabbed a Top 10 album dedicated to getting his wife back. Sales are never put in context or remembered by public. Those of us who follow industry know it's a major flop, but if people hear Top 10 album, not-so-much. |
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jul 4, 2014 11:15:58 GMT -5
Meh... I hoped for a better 2nd week sales for Ed. :(
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 4, 2014 18:03:24 GMT -5
Meh... I hoped for a better 2nd week sales for Ed. :( Ed's 2nd week drop is normal. He also doesn't have a 2nd single at radio. "Don't" goes for adds on July 15. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 4, 2014 18:32:42 GMT -5
Outside of "Blurred Lines," Robin Thicke has never been all that popular. I hate to say I agree with you, but I do. It's a much deserving placement. I don't see a problem with that quite honestly. I mean people have done worse than try to make up mistakes they made previously.... It certainly more respectable than getting naked on a wrecking ball... or trying to sexualize religious imagery for sales. I actually think it's appropriate for him to release an album to get back his wife after he let fame and success go to his head and hurt his wife. I don't even believe it's genuine; I think he saw an angle to keep himself in the press. To that end, it has worked. But as we've seen with countless people, press doesn't necessarily translate into sales. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 4, 2014 19:06:25 GMT -5
Meh... I hoped for a better 2nd week sales for Ed. :( Ed's 2nd week drop is normal. He also doesn't have a 2nd single at radio. We were spoiled by Sam Smith's drop |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 4, 2014 19:13:16 GMT -5
Yes, the win-back-his-wife campaign has been a big flop with the public, critics, and, probably, Ms. Paula Patton. If "Paula" hits 10 and not 11, all that will be remembered is that RT nabbed a Top 10 album dedicated to getting his wife back. Sales are never put in context or remembered by public. Those of us who follow industry know it's a major flop, but if people hear Top 10 album, not-so-much. I don't even think album chart peaks are even talked about much now either. Granted, his people and label will grab onto whatever makes it not look like a flop so they'll use the "top 10 album" thing if they can, but most music bloggers and entertainment journalists know better and will use context in relation to the album's achievements. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 6, 2014 20:59:36 GMT -5
New albums out Tuesday in the weekend circulars:
Target:
Sia $9.99
Best Buy:
Judas Priest $9.99
Dirty Heads $8.99
Neil Diamond $8.99
'68 $8.99
Sia $7.99
Ted Nugent $9.99
LeeLa James $8.99
Chelsea Grin $8.99
Goatwhore $8.99
Richard Marx $8.99
Chicago $9.99
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 7, 2014 10:58:08 GMT -5
We'll have better sales this week, than last year: ONE year ago: www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/archcht.cgi?cht556CHART DATE: 07/08/2013 2 1 J. COLE ROC NATION/COLUMBIA 55,732 -33% BORN SINNER 1 2 WALE ATLANTIC 48,870 -68% THE GIFTED 3 3 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/DEF JAM/IDJ 40,366 -39% YEEZUS 8 4 IMAGINE DRAGONS KIDINAKORNER/INTERSCOPE 33,223 +16% NIGHT VISIONS 5 5 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 30,757 -1% HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES -- 6 JOE MASSENBURG MEDIA 28,449 -- DOUBLEBACK EVOLUTION OF R&B 6 7 DAFT PUNK COLUMBIA 27,992 -9% RANDOM ACCESS MEMORIES 11 8 MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS MACKLEMORE 23,732 +2% HEIST 14 9 BRUNO MARS ATLANTIC 21,873 -3% UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX 12 10 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 21,254 -6% BASED ON A TRUE STORY |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 7, 2014 11:18:25 GMT -5
Robin's destroyed his reputation in the past year. He went from a has-been to having one of the most massive hits ever to being the most hated man in pop.Why? Cause Miley twerked on his bulge? And he was hardly a hasbeen before. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 7, 2014 11:39:35 GMT -5
He went from a has-been to having one of the most massive hits ever to being the most hated man in pop.Why? Cause Miley twerked on his bulge? If you missed the massiveness "Blurred Lines" controversy then where have you even been |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 7, 2014 11:46:57 GMT -5
Why? Cause Miley twerked on his bulge? If you missed the massiveness "Blurred Lines" controversy then where have you even been A controversy that had no reason to exist. Cause the same people that read too much into the song were the same ones bopping and partying to it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:51:12 GMT -5
Everybody got all on my case when i said last year I much prefered the other Robin, than "Blurred Lines" and publicity seeking over the top, money chasing Robin. i guess now he knows why I said, its okay to seek out crossover appeal as long as it stays organic to who you are as a person and performer. Something about Robin felt like music was becoming secondary to fame and that has turned me off, but the final seal of disgust of course is how he is using his relationship as a tool for attention like he done graduated from the Lopez institute of media training.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 7, 2014 11:54:01 GMT -5
Everybody got all on my case when i said last year I much prefered the other Robin, than "Blurred Lines" and publicity seeking over the top, money chasing Robin. i guess now he knows why I said, its okay to seek out crossover appeal as long as it stays organic to who you are as a person and performer. Something about Robin felt like music was becoming secondary to fame and that has turned me off, but the final seal of disgust of course is how he is using his relationship as a tool for attention like he done graduated from the Lopez institute of media training.NO YOU DIDN'T!! :kii: |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 7, 2014 11:56:53 GMT -5
To go from a No. 1 album to "just" a top 10 album- by the skin of its teeth- is a pretty big decline from one album o the next. In any event, we'll see what the final numbers show.
It's true, though that some just hear a peak ranking and think something's a big hit, when a closer look may tell a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:58:41 GMT -5
To go from a No. 1 album to "just" a top 10 album- by the skin of its teeth- is a pretty big decline from one album o the next. In any event, we'll see what the final numbers show. It's true, though that some just hear a peak ranking and think something's a big hit, when a closer look may tell a different story. within a year, not even over a period of time. Something is so rancid when it falls out like that overnight. Its so hard to lose the public over personality and personal life, so you know its bad. |
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Post by Duca on Jul 7, 2014 13:39:35 GMT -5
CHART DATE: 07/07/2014
LAST UPDATE: 07/07/2014 11:13:26
NOW IN: 31.77%
LW TW artist / album label sales index
-- 1 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 53,254 TRIGGA
1 2 ED SHEERAN ATLANTIC 11,157 X
2 3 SAM SMITH CAPITOL 10,501 IN THE LONELY HOUR
-- 4 ROBIN THICKE STAR TRAK/INTERSCOPE 9,071 PAULA
5 5 FROZEN WALT DISNEY 7,880 SOUNDTRACK
-- 6 SEETHER BICYCLE MUSIC/CONCORD 7,550 ISOLATE & MEDICATE
4 7 LANA DEL REY INTERSCOPE 5,270 ULTRAVIOLENCE
10 8 NOW 50 NOW 5,265 VARIOUS ARTISTS
7 9 MIRANDA LAMBERT RCA NASHVILLE 4,833 PLATINUM
15 10 JERSEY BOYS RHINO 4,381 SOUNDTRACK
8 11 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 4,197 HUNTING PARTY
-- 12 MAGIC! LATIUM/RCA 3,887 DON'T KILL THE MAGIC!
19 13 IGGY AZALEA GRAND HUSTLE/DEF JAM 3,775 NEW CLASSIC
13 14 COLDPLAY PARLOPHONE 3,374 GHOST STORIES
-- 15 AUGUST ALSINA NNTME/DEF JAM 3,222 TESTIMONY
21 16 JOE BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT 3,177 BRIDGES
-- 17 JENNI RIVERA FONOVISA 3,014 1969 - SIEMPRE, PART 2
47 18 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER CAPITOL 2,956 SHE LOOKS SO PERFECT - EP
18 19 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 2,944 XSCAPE
17 20 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 2,525 CRASH MY PARTY
12 21 BRANTLEY GILBERT VALORY 2,263 JUST AS I AM
36 22 PHARRELL WILLIAMS COLUMBIA 2,140 G I R L
34 23 ONEREPUBLIC INTERSCOPE 2,092 NATIVE
41 24 JOHN LEGEND COLUMBIA 1,985 LOVE IN THE FUTURE
14 25 JACK WHITE THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA 1,952 LAZARETTO
26 26 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 1,909 HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES
32 27 JENNIFER LOPEZ CAPITOL 1,788 A.K.A.
30 28 ARCTIC MONKEYS DOMINO 1,786 AM
25 29 NOW COUNTRY 7 NOW 1,716 VARIOUS ARTISTS
9 30 MASTODON WARNER BROS. 1,656 ONE MORE ROUND THE SUN
39 31 LANA DEL REY INTERSCOPE 1,601 BORN TO DIE
27 32 LORDE REPUBLIC 1,548 PURE HEROINE
35 33 KATY PERRY CAPITOL 1,480 PRISM
43 34 IMAGINE DRAGONS KIDINAKORNER/INTERSCOPE 1,450 NIGHT VISIONS
42 35 50 CENT G-UNIT 1,417 ANIMAL AMBITION: AN UNTAMED
-- 36 BASTILLE VIRGIN 1,399 BAD BLOOD
16 37 THE FAULT IN OUR STARS ATLANTIC 1,356 SOUNDTRACK
31 38 THE BLACK KEYS NONESUCH/WARNER BROS. 1,279 TURN BLUE
-- 39 LINDSEY STIRLING LINDSEYSTOMP 1,262 SHATTER ME
3 40 G-EAZY G-EAZY/BLUEPRINT 1,257 THESE THINGS HAPPEN
38 41 ERIC CHURCH EMI NASHVILLE 1,230 THE OUTSIDERS
50 42 PHILLIP PHILLIPS 19/INTERSCOPE 1,224 BEHIND THE LIGHT
-- 43 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 1,211 REWIND
45 44 JASON DERULO WARNER BROS. 1,156 TALK DIRTY
-- 45 MARIAH CAREY DEF JAM 1,148 ME. I AM MARIAH... THE ELUSIVE
-- 46 NOW 49 NOW 1,080 VARIOUS ARTISTS
40 47 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 1,048 BASED ON A TRUE STORY
48 48 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 1,043 MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2
-- 49 BRUNO MARS ATLANTIC 995 UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX
-- 50 LED ZEPPELIN RHINO 945 LED ZEPPELIN
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 7, 2014 15:03:20 GMT -5
Everybody got all on my case when i said last year I much prefered the other Robin, than "Blurred Lines" and publicity seeking over the top, money chasing Robin. i guess now he knows why I said, its okay to seek out crossover appeal as long as it stays organic to who you are as a person and performer. Something about Robin felt like music was becoming secondary to fame and that has turned me off, but the final seal of disgust of course is how he is using his relationship as a tool for attention like he done graduated from the Lopez institute of media training. Or the Mariah Carey media institute of media training... Butterflies, to Emancipation, to the latest album... LOL! Divas do this all the time and no one says a word when they do it. It's not like it's just Jennifer Lopez, it's Mariah, Beyonce, Tayolor, Kelly, Miranda, Usher, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, JayZ (or any other rapper) the feeling goes on and on and on. LMAO! Nothing separates Robin from anyone else in the music industry in this regard. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 7, 2014 15:12:30 GMT -5
Everybody got all on my case when i said last year I much prefered the other Robin, than "Blurred Lines" and publicity seeking over the top, money chasing Robin. i guess now he knows why I said, its okay to seek out crossover appeal as long as it stays organic to who you are as a person and performer. Something about Robin felt like music was becoming secondary to fame and that has turned me off, but the final seal of disgust of course is how he is using his relationship as a tool for attention like he done graduated from the Lopez institute of media training. Or the Mariah Carey media institute of media training... Butterflies, to Emancipation, to the latest album... LOL! Divas do this all the time and no one says a word when they do it. It's not like it's just Jennifer Lopez, it's Mariah, Beyonce, Tayolor, Kelly, Miranda, Usher, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, JayZ (or any other rapper) the feeling goes on and on and on. LMAO! Nothing separates Robin from anyone else in the music industry in this regard. Massive difference between what RT is doing and what all of those female artists that you listed have done. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 7, 2014 15:13:51 GMT -5
Or the Mariah Carey media institute of media training... Butterflies, to Emancipation, to the latest album... LOL! Divas do this all the time and no one says a word when they do it. It's not like it's just Jennifer Lopez, it's Mariah, Beyonce, Tayolor, Kelly, Miranda, Usher, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, JayZ (or any other rapper) the feeling goes on and on and on. LMAO! Nothing separates Robin from anyone else in the music industry in this regard. Massive difference between what RT is doing and what all of those female artists that you listed have done. What is it?  All of these people are attention whores... They wouldn't be popular otherwise. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 7, 2014 15:19:55 GMT -5
Massive difference between what RT is doing and what all of those female artists that you listed have done. What is it? The ladies you mentioned use their relationships/experiences with love/lust/whatever to write songs that people can relate to without flat-out calling someone out by name. Thicke made an album that was titled "Paula," publicly announced private and personal matters to everyone, is essentially (and from what can be inferred by the listeners) making this way more difficult for Patton herself because she had to deal with his cheating scandals in the public eye and now has to deal with her separation in such a widespread medium, and to top it all off, if what has been told is true, he has an upcoming video of little children re-enacting his and Patton's wedding. |
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Post by Rumors on Jul 7, 2014 15:30:20 GMT -5
Robin's destroyed his reputation in the past year. He went from a has-been to having one of the most massive hits ever to being the most hated man in pop. In other words, he is a one hit wonder outside the urban radio fan base. I always thought the guy had little talent and other than producing racy videos to get attention, his music is forgettable. I will give him Blurred Lines which was probably a hit due more to the writing (probably more by Pharrell than Robin). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:49:51 GMT -5
There is a vast difference between someone like Mary J Blige taking her life turmoils going into a studio and pouring her heart and soul out on a record. What Robin Thicke is essentially doing is making himself and her life into a reality tv show disguised as music. The # campaign on twitter is essentially one of the cheapest gimmicky ploys I have seen yet for a album roll out, and on a human level how disgusting that his marriage and Paula is a tool for $$$. I seen some of his interviews and nothing even seems genuine. He may or not want to win her back but how he is doing it is a tad facetious.
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Post by Gary on Jul 7, 2014 15:50:21 GMT -5
A one hit wonder is an artist with one hit usually. Regardless of what people think of the Blurred Lines follow up songs, he did have Lost Without U in 2007.
The album decline is due to the nature of the album. This is a "have pity on me and buy my album so I can win Paula back" album and not album written to generate hits and sell songs.
The current approach is not working, an album written under normal circumstances would have had a better response.
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Post by Bhad Bill on Jul 7, 2014 15:59:55 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how to add to this RT conversation apart from the fact that it is such a shame that he is so unable to capitalize on his polarization. This thread is popping with interest about the album, and even though its negative, at least we are all talking about it.
But NO ONE is buying that mess.
I also like whoever said he's turning it into a reality tv show. I love reality tv, but this is just awful!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 7, 2014 17:34:27 GMT -5
NOW IN: 55.94%
-- 1 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 78,310
TRIGGA
2 2 SAM SMITH CAPITOL 25,878
IN THE LONELY HOUR
-- 3 SEETHER BICYCLE MUSIC/CONCORD 21,112
ISOLATE & MEDICATE
-- 4 MAGIC! LATIUM/RCA 19,201
DON'T KILL THE MAGIC!
1 5 ED SHEERAN ATLANTIC 17,261
X
10 6 NOW 50 NOW 16,824
VARIOUS ARTISTS
5 7 FROZEN WALT DISNEY 16,576
SOUNDTRACK
12 8 BRANTLEY GILBERT VALORY 15,185
JUST AS I AM
7 9 MIRANDA LAMBERT RCA NASHVILLE 14,988
PLATINUM
-- 10 ROBIN THICKE STAR TRAK/INTERSCOPE 11,102
PAULA
-- 11 COLT FORD AVERAGE JOE'S 10,525
THANKS FOR LISTENING
25 12 NOW COUNTRY 7 NOW 8,605
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 13 OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW ATO 8,405
REMEDY
17 14 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 7,287
CRASH MY PARTY
15 15 JERSEY BOYS RHINO 7,149
SOUNDTRACK
18 16 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 6,694
XSCAPE
8 17 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 6,621
HUNTING PARTY
4 18 LANA DEL REY INTERSCOPE 6,396
ULTRAVIOLENCE
26 19 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 5,720
HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES
-- 20 JENNI RIVERA FONOVISA 5,665
1969 - SIEMPRE, PART 2
13 21 COLDPLAY PARLOPHONE 4,836
GHOST STORIES
47 22 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER CAPITOL 4,605
SHE LOOKS SO PERFECT - EP
36 23 PHARRELL WILLIAMS COLUMBIA 4,527
G I R L
19 24 IGGY AZALEA GRAND HUSTLE/DEF JAM 4,511
NEW CLASSIC
21 25 JOE BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT 4,191
BRIDGES
38 26 ERIC CHURCH EMI NASHVILLE 3,816
THE OUTSIDERS
-- 27 AUGUST ALSINA NNTME/DEF JAM 3,716
TESTIMONY
-- 28 NOW 49 NOW 3,474
VARIOUS ARTISTS
32 29 JENNIFER LOPEZ CAPITOL 3,271
A.K.A.
41 30 JOHN LEGEND COLUMBIA 3,246
LOVE IN THE FUTURE
27 31 LORDE REPUBLIC 3,237
PURE HEROINE
-- 32 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 3,172
REWIND
35 33 KATY PERRY CAPITOL 2,685
PRISM
14 34 JACK WHITE THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA 2,557
LAZARETTO
45 35 JASON DERULO WARNER BROS. 2,548
TALK DIRTY
40 36 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 2,400
BASED ON A TRUE STORY
49 37 DIERKS BENTLEY EMI NASHVILLE 2,368
RISER
-- 38 MARIAH CAREY DEF JAM 2,224
ME. I AM MARIAH... THE ELUSIVE
16 39 THE FAULT IN OUR STARS ATLANTIC 2,208
SOUNDTRACK
50 40 PHILLIP PHILLIPS 19/INTERSCOPE 2,203
BEHIND THE LIGHT
34 41 ONEREPUBLIC INTERSCOPE 2,092
NATIVE
-- 42 BRUNO MARS ATLANTIC 1,890
UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX
31 43 THE BLACK KEYS NONESUCH/WARNER BROS. 1,840
TURN BLUE
30 44 ARCTIC MONKEYS DOMINO 1,786
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-- 45 COLE SWINDELL WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 1,700
COLE SWINDELL
-- 46 LED ZEPPELIN RHINO 1,686
LED ZEPPELIN
9 47 MASTODON WARNER BROS. 1,656
ONE MORE ROUND THE SUN
23 48 WILLIE NELSON LEGACY 1,655
BAND OF BROTHERS
39 49 LANA DEL REY INTERSCOPE 1,601
BORN TO DIE
43 50 IMAGINE DRAGONS KIDINAKORNER/INTERSCOPE 1,450
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 7, 2014 17:44:19 GMT -5
Yeah, it's rather obvious what the difference is between what RT is doing and everyone else. It's one thing to write about your personal experiences, but this tactic is so beyond that. Maybe a certain poster just likes to stir the pot some- wild theory, I know.  |
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