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Post by Markus Meyer on Jul 14, 2014 22:08:18 GMT -5
Boo for no "Ghost Town" Yay for this still being a great song. Very well sung.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 23, 2014 12:16:23 GMT -5
Delivered to country radio according to the Daily Play MPEThe add date is August 11th.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 23, 2014 12:31:21 GMT -5
Boo for no "Ghost Town" Yay for this still being a great song. Very well sung. I think Ghost Town is an automatic radio hit for Jake. What We Ain't Got is a good song but will more than likely have a long slow ride at radio with low downloads ... It's just that type of song. I think Jake suffers from an identity crisis ... Fans just don't know what they are going to get from him. Fans that loved and downloaded Beachin more than likely won't love What We Ain't Got ... And the fans that love What We Ain't Got wont like the next single .... And on and on it goes for Jake. He was on a pretty good roll with the last record and now it's a roller coaster ride again ...
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 23, 2014 12:54:04 GMT -5
I'm loving this song, I loved "Beachin'" (guilty pleasure, for sure), and now I have tickets to see him in concert in August. I'm really liking his music a lot more than I used to. Maybe I'm listening to it with more attention now than I did before, but he's a great musician and one of the better male vocalists of the genre today.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 23, 2014 15:47:49 GMT -5
When the album came out and "Ghost Town" and "What We Ain't Got" we're available for downloads, WWAG actually had a higher debut on Hot Country Songs then Ghost Town did. I think that is a positive sign for this song. Also, I don't look at Jake as having an identity crisis. I look at it as him being a more diverse singer who can make many different style of country songs. Obviously I'm biased though because Jake is my favorite singer.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 24, 2014 13:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by countryqueen on Jul 24, 2014 15:38:05 GMT -5
Heard this song a couple weeks ago and it stopped me in my tracks. Such a powerful, deep song, especially coming after a song like "Beachin". I was pretty annoyed with Jake for releasing that one and "Days of Gold" as singles, since they are genre-bending songs (and I'm more a fan of a traditional-sounding country), but this one has my interest... it reminds me of some of his stronger singles from a couple years ago (stuff like "Startin' with Me", "Something About a Woman", "Don't Think I Can't Love You").
I liked most of Jake's albums but couldn't get into Days of Gold so I don't remember this one. I may have to give it another listen, but this is the kind of sound I prefer from Jake.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 24, 2014 15:46:33 GMT -5
Boo for no "Ghost Town" Yay for this still being a great song. Very well sung. I think Ghost Town is an automatic radio hit for Jake. What We Ain't Got is a good song but will more than likely have a long slow ride at radio with low downloads ... It's just that type of song. I think Jake suffers from an identity crisis ... Fans just don't know what they are going to get from him. Fans that loved and downloaded Beachin more than likely won't love What We Ain't Got ... And the fans that love What We Ain't Got wont like the next single .... And on and on it goes for Jake. He was on a pretty good roll with the last record and now it's a roller coaster ride again ... Identity crisis? Really? He doesn't have an identity crisis. His last two albums have had a LOT of consistency to them and the singles have too, even if "Days Of Gold" wasn't the big ole hit his singles from Barefoot Blue Jean Night were or "Beachin" is. It's a SMART play to release this now. Especially knowing it'll slowly go up the charts in August and through the winter. He can come out with "Ghost Town" and/or "1972" right after it and be just fine. "What We Ain't Got" is the perfect CMA, ACM Award 'bait' for him and he's ALWAYS had songs like this on his records and they can and DO sell. Radio knows who Jake Owen is and fans know who he is. Also, I'd say that even if it struggles to get to Gold, it's still a smart radio play. Give them something different, something that stands out, which is EXACTLY what he's done with every single on this record.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 24, 2014 16:23:51 GMT -5
I think Ghost Town is an automatic radio hit for Jake. What We Ain't Got is a good song but will more than likely have a long slow ride at radio with low downloads ... It's just that type of song. I think Jake suffers from an identity crisis ... Fans just don't know what they are going to get from him. Fans that loved and downloaded Beachin more than likely won't love What We Ain't Got ... And the fans that love What We Ain't Got wont like the next single .... And on and on it goes for Jake. He was on a pretty good roll with the last record and now it's a roller coaster ride again ... Identity crisis? Really? He doesn't have an identity crisis. His last two albums have had a LOT of consistency to them and the singles have too, even if "Days Of Gold" wasn't the big ole hit his singles from Barefoot Blue Jean Night were or "Beachin" is. It's a SMART play to release this now. Especially knowing it'll slowly go up the charts in August and through the winter. He can come out with "Ghost Town" and/or "1972" right after it and be just fine. "What We Ain't Got" is the perfect CMA, ACM Award 'bait' for him and he's ALWAYS had songs like this on his records and they can and DO sell. Radio knows who Jake Owen is and fans know who he is. Also, I'd say that even if it struggles to get to Gold, it's still a smart radio play. Give them something different, something that stands out, which is EXACTLY what he's done with every single on this record. If it struggles to get to Gold it's ok????? Barefoot Blue Jean Night downloaded 2.1 million, Alone With You 1 million +, Beachin 1 million + , TOTGA and AWY 500,000+.. But it's ok if What We Ain't Got struggles to go Gold? Seriously? It's also flawed thinking to put out a song thinking you might get nominated for an award. I seriously doubt if Jake can get nominated for any awards at this point in his career. WWAG is a good song, but jake is risking stalling out any momentum he got back with Beachin by putting this song out. Ghost Town is a serious song and way more radio friendly than WWAG. Ghost Town would be another easy million downloads. If WWAG drags out through the fall and all next winter and record sells fizzle out, WWAG will probably be the last song off this record - just like what happened with the last Lady A record. So theres a good chance now Ghost Town and 1972 could get left high and dry cuz of this. Also - songs like this DON'T sell for Jake. 8 Second Ride was his first gold single - BBJN was the second too pass the gold mark. None of the earlier serious ballady singles went Gold. So I hope it works out that everyone will think Jake is a more serious artist now for releasing this song ... Cuz it's a very risky move to make IMO.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 24, 2014 16:53:38 GMT -5
Identity crisis? Really? He doesn't have an identity crisis. His last two albums have had a LOT of consistency to them and the singles have too, even if "Days Of Gold" wasn't the big ole hit his singles from Barefoot Blue Jean Night were or "Beachin" is. It's a SMART play to release this now. Especially knowing it'll slowly go up the charts in August and through the winter. He can come out with "Ghost Town" and/or "1972" right after it and be just fine. "What We Ain't Got" is the perfect CMA, ACM Award 'bait' for him and he's ALWAYS had songs like this on his records and they can and DO sell. Radio knows who Jake Owen is and fans know who he is. Also, I'd say that even if it struggles to get to Gold, it's still a smart radio play. Give them something different, something that stands out, which is EXACTLY what he's done with every single on this record. If it struggles to get to Gold it's ok????? Barefoot Blue Jean Night downloaded 2.1 million, Alone With You 1 million +, Beachin 1 million + , TOTGA and AWY 500,000+.. But it's ok if What We Ain't Got struggles to go Gold? Seriously? It's also flawed thinking to put out a song thinking you might get nominated for an award. I seriously doubt if Jake can get nominated for any awards at this point in his career. WWAG is a good song, but jake is risking stalling out any momentum he got back with Beachin by putting this song out. Ghost Town is a serious song and way more radio friendly than WWAG. Ghost Town would be another easy million downloads. If WWAG drags out through the fall and all next winter and record sells fizzle out, WWAG will probably be the last song off this record - just like what happened with the last Lady A record. So theres a good chance now Ghost Town and 1972 could get left high and dry cuz of this. Also - songs like this DON'T sell for Jake. 8 Second Ride was his first gold single - BBJN was the second too pass the gold mark. None of the earlier serious ballady singles went Gold. So I hope it works out that everyone will think Jake is a more serious artist now for releasing this song ... Cuz it's a very risky move to make IMO. Oh, I think this is a Platinum-level song. There's NOTHING like it on the radio and while it's pretty stripped-back, it is the best vocal of his career. It may just take longer because "Beachin'" is one of the summer's biggest hits. Jake was an unknown with "Starting With Me" and at that point, many country fans still were buying CDs if anything at all. My point on it being OK to hit Gold is that "Gold" is still a remarkable achievement and with a song that's harder to win over people who don't like ballads or serious songs (you know, the stereotypical 'Bro'), Gold is just fine. You cannot compare EVERY Single a singer releases to the past singles they release and how they sell. Labels and artists obviously want to sell albums and tracks but they ALSO want critical acclaim and proof of artistry. It's a very fine line between art and commerce.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 24, 2014 16:59:40 GMT -5
If it struggles to get to Gold it's ok????? Barefoot Blue Jean Night downloaded 2.1 million, Alone With You 1 million +, Beachin 1 million + , TOTGA and AWY 500,000+.. But it's ok if What We Ain't Got struggles to go Gold? Seriously? It's also flawed thinking to put out a song thinking you might get nominated for an award. I seriously doubt if Jake can get nominated for any awards at this point in his career. WWAG is a good song, but jake is risking stalling out any momentum he got back with Beachin by putting this song out. Ghost Town is a serious song and way more radio friendly than WWAG. Ghost Town would be another easy million downloads. If WWAG drags out through the fall and all next winter and record sells fizzle out, WWAG will probably be the last song off this record - just like what happened with the last Lady A record. So theres a good chance now Ghost Town and 1972 could get left high and dry cuz of this. Also - songs like this DON'T sell for Jake. 8 Second Ride was his first gold single - BBJN was the second too pass the gold mark. None of the earlier serious ballady singles went Gold. So I hope it works out that everyone will think Jake is a more serious artist now for releasing this song ... Cuz it's a very risky move to make IMO. Oh, I think this is a Platinum-level song. There's NOTHING like it on the radio and while it's pretty stripped-back, it is the best vocal of his career. It may just take longer because "Beachin'" is one of the summer's biggest hits. Jake was an unknown with "Starting With Me" and at that point, many country fans still were buying CDs if anything at all. My point on it being OK to hit Gold is that "Gold" is still a remarkable achievement and with a song that's harder to win over people who don't like ballads or serious songs (you know, the stereotypical 'Bro'), Gold is just fine. You cannot compare EVERY Single a singer releases to the past singles they release and how they sell. Labels and artists obviously want to sell albums and tracks but they ALSO want critical acclaim and proof of artistry. It's a very fine line between art and commerce. Thx for clarifying. I hope it all works out for him.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jul 26, 2014 18:25:55 GMT -5
I would also add that Jake has said he wanted this to be single and has went on the record that he would like to see country music get back to being a story based genre and get away from some of the crap he himself has recorded. Imagine that? An artist actually being destined to their own future. Thats all the reasoning I need. I love this tune and it was really the only track on the disc that did much for me.
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Post by kml567 on Jul 26, 2014 23:12:23 GMT -5
According to AllAccess "Cool New Music", it's impacting NOW! That's what the reviewer said.
So I finally heard the song and it sounds a bit too much like "Cowboys and Angels". I prefer Dustin Lynch's song, but this one is good too. Country radio put this type of song at #2 just two years ago, so I think WWAG should still be able to chart well. Although I wish someone with a huge vocal range like Brett Eldredge release a ballad finally - still can't believe he did not release the obvious smash "One Mississippi". That's a huge missed opportunity for Brett. I think Jake made the right decision here though.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 26, 2014 23:58:05 GMT -5
According to AllAccess "Cool New Music", it's impacting NOW! That's what the reviewer said. So I finally heard the song and it sounds a bit too much like "Cowboys and Angels". I prefer Dustin Lynch's song, but this one is good too. Country radio put this type of song at #2 just two years ago, so I think WWAG should still be able to chart well. Although I wish someone with a huge vocal range like Brett Eldredge release a ballad finally - still can't believe he did not release the obvious smash "One Mississippi". That's a huge missed opportunity for Brett. I think Jake made the right decision here though. The Daily Play MPE says the impact date is August 11th. HereI would bet on more adds coming by that date since "Beachin'" will most certainly be a pretty popular recurrent in the next couple weeks.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 28, 2014 21:05:55 GMT -5
Manages to debut at #60 on Billboard two weeks before the impact date. I hope that's a good sign that radio is anxious to play this song.
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Post by someguy on Jul 29, 2014 0:21:08 GMT -5
Funny how this debuts on Billboard and "Summer Jam" debuts on Mediabase in the same week.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 4, 2014 20:43:49 GMT -5
Ad for this in today's Country Aircheck: "Great Song. It's Time Has Come."
Really.
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Post by carriekins on Aug 4, 2014 21:12:08 GMT -5
Ad for this in today's Country Aircheck: "Great Song. It's Time Has Come." Really. AHHHHHHHH!!!! Holy pet peeve, Batman.
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Post by jrekk on Aug 5, 2014 0:50:20 GMT -5
Funny how this debuts on Billboard and "Summer Jam" debuts on Mediabase in the same week. What do you mean, he's pushing two new singles? And Summer Jam from last year's EP, it's a good song and probably should've been released but not now...-_-
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Post by someguy on Aug 5, 2014 1:16:44 GMT -5
Funny how this debuts on Billboard and "Summer Jam" debuts on Mediabase in the same week. What do you mean, he's pushing two new singles? And Summer Jam from last year's EP, it's a good song and probably should've been released but not now...-_- Nope, "Summer Jam" is just charting on Mediabase as an album track, while the actual single "What We Ain't Got" is charting on Billboard.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Aug 5, 2014 1:34:04 GMT -5
Perfect new single from Jake Owen and it is great he wanted a different sound. Overall, "What We Ain't Got" is a winning song.
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Post by rjz on Aug 5, 2014 6:39:09 GMT -5
What do you mean, he's pushing two new singles? And Summer Jam from last year's EP, it's a good song and probably should've been released but not now...-_- Nope, "Summer Jam" is just charting on Mediabase as an album track, while the actual single "What We Ain't Got" is charting on Billboard. I actually thought he put this out as a single earlier in the summer because of the frequency I heard it on my radio station. And I still hear it at least daily! More than some high charting singles. Strange. My radio station must just love this song (well, so do I-bought it as soon as I heard it, even though they lyrics are same old, same old-it is pretty infectious). As far as this song goes-I guess the timing is right-it could do well. I prefer Jake singing upbeat party songs for some reason since I agree with kml567 that his vocal chops aren't as good as some other male country singers out there. But it could be a grower.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 5, 2014 17:11:39 GMT -5
For anybody up late (probably me, lol), Jake will be performing "What We Ain't Got" on Jimmy Kimmel Live on ABC tonight at 11:35 P.M. eastern. Source
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 11, 2014 20:50:53 GMT -5
47 adds for Jake this week on Mediabase on impact day. Hopefully the momentum from "Beachin'" can help this great ballad work it's way up the charts.
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Post by jesster on Aug 13, 2014 7:00:03 GMT -5
Will be curious how this does, probably forgetting something but I can't recall a very slow song like this doing well for quite some time. That said, I would have liked to see Journey of my Life released from the last album so I don't mind the slower songs even if don't like this one as much.
I agree Jake doesn't have the same vocal ability as some others, when I saw him live it seemed to me mostly the upper range he was stretching for. In this, there's nothing in the vocals that bother me - I actually like the character coming out in his delivery in songs like this, which can get lost in some the more 'produced' & faster stuff he's been doing the past album or two.
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Post by gurustu on Aug 13, 2014 8:45:04 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the writers of this song (Travis Jerome Goff and Travis Meadows) have written other songs that have been on the charts before? This is part of the problem with the current state of Country music/radio; same "hit" writers on just about everything that is released. It shouldn't matter if Goff and Meadows haven't written anything that has charted before, good songs are good songs and their are a TON of great songs and songwriters in Nashville that are completely getting unnoticed. Country music would actually be in a MUCH better place if more and more songs/songwriters were given a fair chance. If you need examples, then start listening to some of the non-major label artists out their busting their butts trying to make it... they aren't afraid to cut an unknown songwriters song if it's good and a lot of the time some of the songs that the indie artists are doing are much better than the ones you hear in the top 30. But oh well, this is a rant for another time; sorry for venting
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Post by gurustu on Aug 13, 2014 9:02:22 GMT -5
As for this song however, the melody and chord progressions have been way overused, there are a TON of songs that have used this Melody already (great Melody which is why it's used time and time again), but when you are going to use this melody and chord progression then the lyrics have to be better than the other songs that have used it in the past and to me these lyrics don't stack up to those. To me a perfect example of a song that utilizes this melody and chord progression would be Trace Adkins "I Can't Outrun You"; but that was never made a single which was a HUGE mistake in my opinion because it's one of the best songs ever written in this decade! Such a shame, but the lyrics for Trace's song are PERFECT for this melody: www.cmt.com/videos/trace-adkins/319911/i-cant-outrun-you.jhtml#id=1599712
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 13, 2014 9:32:01 GMT -5
Will be curious how this does, probably forgetting something but I can't recall a very slow song like this doing well for quite some time. That said, I would have liked to see Journey of my Life released from the last album so I don't mind the slower songs even if don't like this one as much. It's really odd because it's not like slow songs aren't becoming hits on other formats. Sam Smiths "Stay With Me" is about to hit #1 on the Hot 100 and Pop charts, and earlier this year John Legend had a huge slower hit in "All of Me". Not to mention that Adele became big with slower hit songs too, so it really makes me wonder why a slow piano driven ballad can't be successful on Country radio. I'm really hoping for big things with this song, I think it deserves to be a big hit, and I'm glad that Jake and his label had the balls to release it.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 16, 2014 18:59:02 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, but I found this to be interesting enough to share. WIRK, the biggest country station closest to Jake's hometown of Vero Beach (station located in West Palm area), has jumped onto playing this song already, even giving it mid-day spins. This is interesting because it took them forever before they started to play "Beachin'". They don't normally start playing newer songs right away. Other than "Girl In A Country Song", I haven't heard them play anything else that was released recently. I saw jhomes mention on another thread that the Phoenix stations had jumped on playing this song already too, so i'm hoping this single is coming out at the right time for radio. Curious to see where it charts on Monday.
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Post by mairy on Aug 30, 2014 7:38:01 GMT -5
Who does the background vocals on this?
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