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Post by sabre14 on Aug 30, 2014 14:15:28 GMT -5
Who does the background vocals on this? Sarah Buxton.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Sept 3, 2014 22:11:51 GMT -5
OMG! I just heard this for the first time, and it grabbed me instantly! I hope this is HUGE, just like Beachin'! I love the message!
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Post by jesster on Sept 4, 2014 6:29:52 GMT -5
I've heard it a couple of times which may be a good sign as my station is rarely early to the scene with new songs. I was a little concerned that this song would be too slow for radio. I still am but for me personally it sounded good. If anything it caught my attention with the pace as it was so different than the usual stuff coming thru the airwaves right now.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 5, 2014 14:45:27 GMT -5
I've heard it a couple of times which may be a good sign as my station is rarely early to the scene with new songs. I was a little concerned that this song would be too slow for radio. I still am but for me personally it sounded good. If anything it caught my attention with the pace as it was so different than the usual stuff coming thru the airwaves right now. This is probably WHY it'll be a hit.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 5, 2014 18:44:33 GMT -5
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Post by countrymusic20 on Sept 5, 2014 19:57:27 GMT -5
I think jake is way over thinking this thing.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 5, 2014 21:39:53 GMT -5
I think jake is way over thinking this thing. I think you might be right too, it's not like he only does fun party songs. "Alone With You" and "The One That Got Away" were his two follow-up singles to "Barefoot Blue Jean Night", and I thought those songs were pretty meaningful, and weren't at all "beach bum" type songs. But I'm glad to hear that he appears set to record more serious material like "What We Ain't Got". I think a 1/4 ratio would be perfect for his next album: release 3 solid story or lyrically deep songs and one bonafide party/feel good jam.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 5, 2014 21:45:58 GMT -5
I think jake is way over thinking this thing. I think you might be right too, it's not like he only does fun party songs. "Alone With You" and "The One That Got Away" were his two follow-up singles to "Barefoot Blue Jean Night", and I thought those songs were pretty meaningful, and weren't at all "beach bum" type songs. But I'm glad to hear that he appears set to record more serious material like "What We Ain't Got". I think a 1/4 ratio would be perfect for his next album: release 3 solid story or lyrically deep songs and one bonafide party/feel good jam. The thing is he does the party jams better than 90% of radio. "Barefoot Blue Jean Night", "Anywhere with You", "Sure Feels Right", etc. However, I am glad he's putting the effort into implementing deeper material.
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Post by joey2002 on Sept 5, 2014 21:54:39 GMT -5
I think jake is way over thinking this thing. I think you might be right too, it's not like he only does fun party songs. "Alone With You" and "The One That Got Away" were his two follow-up singles to "Barefoot Blue Jean Night", and I thought those songs were pretty meaningful, and weren't at all "beach bum" type songs. But I'm glad to hear that he appears set to record more serious material like "What We Ain't Got". I think a 1/4 ratio would be perfect for his next album: release 3 solid story or lyrically deep songs and one bonafide party/feel good jam. I thought that Barefoot Blue Jean Night was a fantastic, well balanced album. "Heaven" and "The Journey Of Your Life" were deep songs with strong lyrics that gave powerful messages. Unfortunately, neither song was released as a single, but the album itself certainly had a great variety of songs on it.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 5, 2014 22:07:47 GMT -5
I think you might be right too, it's not like he only does fun party songs. "Alone With You" and "The One That Got Away" were his two follow-up singles to "Barefoot Blue Jean Night", and I thought those songs were pretty meaningful, and weren't at all "beach bum" type songs. But I'm glad to hear that he appears set to record more serious material like "What We Ain't Got". I think a 1/4 ratio would be perfect for his next album: release 3 solid story or lyrically deep songs and one bonafide party/feel good jam. I thought that Barefoot Blue Jean Night was a fantastic, well balanced album. "Heaven" and "The Journey Of Your Life" were deep songs with strong lyrics that gave powerful messages. Unfortunately, neither song was released as a single, but the album itself certainly had a great variety of songs on it. I'd agree, very underrated album. Jake tends to get a rep as a bro or at least a partial bro when really that's far from an accurate statement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -5
I was surprised to see that "What We Ain't Got" is selling for 69 cents on iTunes. Perhaps RCA Nashville isn't getting the response from radio they were expecting right out of the gate and so they are taking a few extra measures to get this Jake Owen single climbing. I would actually be quite surprised to see Jake Owen get anywhere near the top 10 this time around. "Ghost Town" or "Life of the Party" would have worked much better with radio, but now I'm not sure either will see the light of day.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 6, 2014 11:39:17 GMT -5
I was surprised to see that "What We Ain't Got" is selling for 69 cents on iTunes. Perhaps RCA Nashville isn't getting the response from radio they were expecting right out of the gate and so they are taking a few extra measures to get this Jake Owen single climbing. I would actually be quite surprised to see Jake Owen get anywhere near the top 10 this time around. "Ghost Town" or "Life of the Party" would have worked much better with radio, but now I'm not sure either will see the light of day. It's off to an excellent start at radio actually.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 11:55:27 GMT -5
Are you sure about that, Markus? Jake Owen just had one of the biggest hits of 2014 and of his career. "What We Ain't Got" has been out since August 11 and yet the record is only #39 on Mediabase and up fewer than 100 spins in the past week. Jake Owen's singles have been pretty slow to climb the charts in the past, but I was expecting Jake Owen would have much more momentum coming off his fifth #1 (and one of his biggest) than he had before. This record isn't struggling yet, but it's moving much more slowly than I would expect a hit from Jake Owen to. The discount on iTunes and artificially high sales may lead radio to catch on soon, but I'd think that programmers would eventually wise up to this little "trick" that is becoming an increasingly common way to boost iTunes sales (especially with WB's country singles).
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 6, 2014 12:01:46 GMT -5
On the airplay chart, it goes like this (cue Thomas Rhett):
#34-Night That You'll Never Forget-Love & Theft-22 weeks #35 What We Ain't Got-Jake Owen-6 weeks
I do not see a problem at this time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 12:08:44 GMT -5
Are you sure about that, Markus? Jake Owen just had one of the biggest hits of 2014 and of his career. "What We Ain't Got" has been out since August 11 and yet the record is only #39 on Mediabase and up fewer than 100 spins in the past week. Jake Owen's singles have been pretty slow to climb the charts in the past, but I was expecting Jake Owen would have much more momentum coming off his fifth #1 (and one of his biggest) than he had before. This record isn't struggling yet, but it's moving much more slowly than I would expect a hit from Jake Owen to. The discount on iTunes and artificially high sales may lead radio to catch on soon, but I'd think that programmers would eventually wise up to this little "trick" that is becoming an increasingly common way to boost iTunes sales (especially with WB's country singles). This one's not doing bad at all. And for the record, it was selling quite well on iTunes even prior to the discount. Sony has discounted a lot of songs on iTunes right now. Most of them were hits within the past 1-3 years, but they have a couple of current songs for a cheaper price as well. This is a ballad, and "Beachin'" is still getting a lot of airplay. Furthermore, it probably wouldn't bode well for this one to blast right up into the congested 20's. I think they decided to discount it to drive what were already strong sales further. Other labels do it to spur sales when a song is struggling (see, "Tattoo"), but in this case "What We Ain't Got" already had a pretty strong sales per spin ratio, and I believe that RCA is just trying to fuel the fire a bit by offering the song for a cheaper price.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 12:31:54 GMT -5
I haven't been a chart-follower for very long, but is this one in good shape? I guess when I see songs like Bartender and Dirt jumping up the charts, it makes me concerned about songs like this.
I saw Jake in concert in July and that's when I first heard him play this song. I thought it was a bit of an odd follow-up to Beachin. I think it's a beautiful song and Jake's voice is perfect for it. I'm surprised everyone likes it as much as they do, considering the bro craze lately. I do think Life of the Party will probably be next (if they do a fourth).
While I'm thinking of it, I do think Heaven would have been a good choice for a single last album.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 6, 2014 12:51:56 GMT -5
I haven't been a chart-follower for very long, but is this one in good shape? I guess when I see songs like Bartender and Dirt jumping up the charts, it makes me concerned about songs like this. I saw Jake in concert in July and that's when I first heard him play this song. I thought it was a bit of an odd follow-up to Beachin. I think it's a beautiful song and Jake's voice is perfect for it. I'm surprised everyone likes it as much as they do, considering the bro craze lately. I do think Life of the Party will probably be next (if they do a fourth). While I'm thinking of it, I do think Heaven would have been a good choice for a single last album. Like jhomes87 said, it's been doing pretty well considering: a) it's a ballad, b) it's a 3rd single from a non-A lister, and c) Beachin' is still getting heavy recurrent play. Unfortunately the charts are clogged right now, so some songs are going to have to go recurrent before this song makes it "big" move. I'm sure they're will be a housecleaning on Billboard in the next month or so, and that will help the song out. The sales have been positive though, and I imagine the call-out scores will be pretty decent as well. As for a 4th single, I'm leaning towards them picking "Ghost Town", but I think "Life of the Party" is the closest competition, and is a dark horse candidate. I think we will get a 4th single as long as "What We Ain't Got" doesn't take 40 or so weeks to peak on the chart (which I don't think it will).
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 6, 2014 13:01:54 GMT -5
I do think "Ghost Town" is probably the most likely candidate for a 4th single.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 6, 2014 15:35:02 GMT -5
Jake's off to a fine start. This song is definitely a risk for country radio with how slow it is and I think that RCA knew the potential of this under performing. If "Beachin" wasn't as huge as it was, there was probably no way that the label would let Jake go with this song third. Jake will be #38 most likely come tomorrows MB final numbers with Brad officially going recurrent with "River Bank" (by the way, lol at Brad falling all the way to #23 on Saturday's MB rolling chart).
I still agree with @daydrinker that this might not reach the top 10 since PD's have been timid about putting songs like this in high rotation over the past few years, but considering the type of song here, I think it's off to a pretty good start. I also think "Ghost Town" will be the fourth and final single from Days Of Gold, no matter how "What We Ain't Got" performs.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Sept 6, 2014 20:54:37 GMT -5
Word on the street is that there will be no 4th single. The record is not selling. This song certainly won't help that . Jake has already been in the studio recording new material for his next project.
IMO it was a big mistake for Jake to fight for this to be the 3rd single so he can "win an award". He's leaving surefire fast climbing singles on the table - to put out a really slow ballad. Ghost town - or Drivin' All Night - or Life of the Party could have continued the radio momentum of Beachin' into another fairly quick #1 - and then What We Ain't Got could have been the last single. As it stands, looks like What We Ain't Got is going to put the final nail in the coffin for this record - and I seriously doubt it will win any awards.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 6, 2014 21:28:06 GMT -5
Word on the street is that there will be no 4th single. The record is not selling. This song certainly won't help that . Jake has already been in the studio recording new material for his next project. IMO it was a big mistake for Jake to fight for this to be the 3rd single so he can "win an award". He's leaving surefire fast climbing singles on the table - to put out a really slow ballad. Ghost town - or Drivin' All Night - or Life of the Party could have continued the radio momentum of Beachin' into another fairly quick #1 - and then What We Ain't Got could have been the last single. As it stands, looks like What We Ain't Got is going to put the final nail in the coffin for this record - and I seriously doubt it will win any awards. I would be shocked if A) What We Ain't Got garnered zero awards consideration. It seems like a lock for a song of the year nod at either the CMA/ACM/Grammy's (especially the grammy's) B) If there wasn't a 4th single, "Ghost Town" screams smash hit to me.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 6, 2014 21:51:45 GMT -5
Word on the street is that there will be no 4th single. The record is not selling. This song certainly won't help that . Jake has already been in the studio recording new material for his next project. IMO it was a big mistake for Jake to fight for this to be the 3rd single so he can "win an award". He's leaving surefire fast climbing singles on the table - to put out a really slow ballad. Ghost town - or Drivin' All Night - or Life of the Party could have continued the radio momentum of Beachin' into another fairly quick #1 - and then What We Ain't Got could have been the last single. As it stands, looks like What We Ain't Got is going to put the final nail in the coffin for this record - and I seriously doubt it will win any awards. I'm not doubting you, but just curious to where this word on the street is coming from? This song will probably peak in December or January, and the album will be barely a year old. While it hasn't been selling massive amounts, it could be doing worse. I could definitely see them going that route though if they think they've got a surefire smash. Many people seem to doubt this song will sell records, but I think releasing a more unique song like this will move more records than "Ghost Town" would have. While I think "Ghost Town" is an amazing song, it doesn't sound too much different than some of his other #1's (it's at least the same style of song). This song is still so early in it's chart run, I say people should wait before we deem this song a "poor seller" yet. Again, as mentioned in previous posts, it's off to a pretty promising start.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Sept 7, 2014 0:29:54 GMT -5
Word on the street is that there will be no 4th single. The record is not selling. This song certainly won't help that . Jake has already been in the studio recording new material for his next project. IMO it was a big mistake for Jake to fight for this to be the 3rd single so he can "win an award". He's leaving surefire fast climbing singles on the table - to put out a really slow ballad. Ghost town - or Drivin' All Night - or Life of the Party could have continued the radio momentum of Beachin' into another fairly quick #1 - and then What We Ain't Got could have been the last single. As it stands, looks like What We Ain't Got is going to put the final nail in the coffin for this record - and I seriously doubt it will win any awards. I'm not doubting you, but just curious to where this word on the street is coming from? This song will probably peak in December or January, and the album will be barely a year old. While it hasn't been selling massive amounts, it could be doing worse. I could definitely see them going that route though if they think they've got a surefire smash. Many people seem to doubt this song will sell records, but I think releasing a more unique song like this will move more records than "Ghost Town" would have. While I think "Ghost Town" is an amazing song, it doesn't sound too much different than some of his other #1's (it's at least the same style of song). This song is still so early in it's chart run, I say people should wait before we deem this song a "poor seller" yet. Again, as mentioned in previous posts, it's off to a pretty promising start. The last Sound Scan I have - week ending 8/24/14 says Jakes Days Of Gold album sold 1,817 last week. Down from 2,515 the week before. That's not good and it's not trending in the right direction. The song What We Ain't Got downloaded 3,857 to get it up to a grand total of 40,405 total. That's 40,405 since the record came out. I wouldn't exactly call that a promising start.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 7, 2014 0:54:31 GMT -5
I'm not doubting you, but just curious to where this word on the street is coming from? This song will probably peak in December or January, and the album will be barely a year old. While it hasn't been selling massive amounts, it could be doing worse. I could definitely see them going that route though if they think they've got a surefire smash. Many people seem to doubt this song will sell records, but I think releasing a more unique song like this will move more records than "Ghost Town" would have. While I think "Ghost Town" is an amazing song, it doesn't sound too much different than some of his other #1's (it's at least the same style of song). This song is still so early in it's chart run, I say people should wait before we deem this song a "poor seller" yet. Again, as mentioned in previous posts, it's off to a pretty promising start. The last Sound Scan I have - week ending 8/24/14 says Jakes Days Of Gold album sold 1,817 last week. Down from 2,515 the week before. That's not good and it's not trending in the right direction. The song What We Ain't Got downloaded 3,857 to get it up to a grand total of 40,405 total. That's 40,405 since the record came out. I wouldn't exactly call that a promising start. from the iTunes thread: 34 "Night That You'll Never Forget" - Love and Theft (94) *** 35 "What We Ain't Got" - Jake Owen (30) *** 36 "God Made Girls" - RaeLynn (42) 37 "Mean To Me" - Brett Eldredge (63) 38 "Love" - Jana Kramer (125) 39 "Make Me Wanna" - Thomas Rhett (82) It is outselling all these songs within it's airplay range, albeit with a discount.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 7, 2014 4:01:55 GMT -5
I would be shocked if A) What We Ain't Got garnered zero awards consideration. It seems like a lock for a song of the year nod at either the CMA/ACM/Grammy's (especially the grammy's)B) If there wasn't a 4th single, "Ghost Town" screams smash hit to me. We'll see. I imagine this will have to be huge for it to be considered for those kinds of awards though. And unless this does turn out to be a very big hit, I can see why they'd be willing to move on from Days of Gold sooner rather than later, since this era has been a letdown commercially compared to his last album, which is unfortunate since he seemed to be in a good place when he wrapped up the last era.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Sept 7, 2014 7:08:07 GMT -5
The last Sound Scan I have - week ending 8/24/14 says Jakes Days Of Gold album sold 1,817 last week. Down from 2,515 the week before. That's not good and it's not trending in the right direction. The song What We Ain't Got downloaded 3,857 to get it up to a grand total of 40,405 total. That's 40,405 since the record came out. I wouldn't exactly call that a promising start. from the iTunes thread: 34 "Night That You'll Never Forget" - Love and Theft (94) *** 35 "What We Ain't Got" - Jake Owen (30) *** 36 "God Made Girls" - RaeLynn (42) 37 "Mean To Me" - Brett Eldredge (63) 38 "Love" - Jana Kramer (125) 39 "Make Me Wanna" - Thomas Rhett (82) It is outselling all these songs within it's airplay range, albeit with a discount. Yes, thats how What We Ain't Got is selling - 34th on the iTunes chart - right in there with the songs from a couple of brand new and mid level at best artists.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 7:34:59 GMT -5
Who said this would sell well to begin with? Its called a risk for a reason. You can tell Jake has always wanted commerical success AND critical acclaim. Beachin got him the commercial success and WWAG is bringing him critical acclaim. Even if this peaks just outside the top 10 I'd call that an accomplishment. Jake could always regain momentum from songs like Ghost Town or LOTP anyway
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 7, 2014 8:03:55 GMT -5
from the iTunes thread: 34 "Night That You'll Never Forget" - Love and Theft (94) *** 35 "What We Ain't Got" - Jake Owen (30) *** 36 "God Made Girls" - RaeLynn (42) 37 "Mean To Me" - Brett Eldredge (63) 38 "Love" - Jana Kramer (125) 39 "Make Me Wanna" - Thomas Rhett (82) It is outselling all these songs within it's airplay range, albeit with a discount. Yes, thats how What We Ain't Got is selling - 34th on the iTunes chart - right in there with the songs from a couple of brand new and mid level at best artists. Again, this would be a problem if it was in its 20th week, but it's in its 6th week on the chart. Roller Coaster from Luke Bryan didn't start out blazing the iTunes chart either.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Sept 7, 2014 8:22:56 GMT -5
Yes, thats how What We Ain't Got is selling - 34th on the iTunes chart - right in there with the songs from a couple of brand new and mid level at best artists. Again, this would be a problem if it was in its 20th week, but it's in its 6th week on the chart. Roller Coaster from Luke Bryan didn't start out blazing the iTunes chart either. Luke Bryan's FIFTH single - Roller Coaster ... downloaded 31,793 downloads the 6th week it was on the radio charts.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 7, 2014 9:09:59 GMT -5
Again, this would be a problem if it was in its 20th week, but it's in its 6th week on the chart. Roller Coaster from Luke Bryan didn't start out blazing the iTunes chart either. Luke Bryan's FIFTH single - Roller Coaster ... downloaded 31,793 downloads the 6th week it was on the radio charts. Right, but what did it sell when it was in the 30's on the airplay chart?
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