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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 18, 2014 17:17:38 GMT -5
Artist: Garth Brooks Single: "People Loving People" Writers: Chris Wallin, Lee Thomas Miller, Busbee Label: Pearl Records/RCA Nashville Release Date: September 2From Chris Wallin's Facebook page:
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Post by Kari on Jul 18, 2014 17:30:39 GMT -5
Really anxious about this :)
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 18, 2014 17:37:13 GMT -5
I would say I'm less than anxious, only because I'm not convinced radio will get behind it completely. If it's traditional in sound (which is likely), it could very well struggle despite the name behind it.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 18, 2014 17:41:45 GMT -5
I'm thinking radio will play this to the top 5 no matter* what it sounds like. He was never my favorite of the 90's stars but I've always liked him a lot. I'm excited to hear what he's got up his sleeve eitherway. I'd be very happy if he came back with something along the lines of "The Beaches Of Cheyenne", but realistically he'll return with something along the lines of "Friends In Low Places" or "American Honky Tonk Bar Association.
A duet with Trisha right off the bat would also be welcome. :)
*well as long as it's some kind of country.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 18, 2014 17:56:05 GMT -5
I'd be very happy if he came back with something along the lines of "The Beaches Of Cheyenne", but realistically he'll return with something along the lines of "Friends In Low Places" or "American Honky Tonk Bar Association. Actually exactly what I was thinking. "Friends in Low Places" is a distant ancestor of the 'bro country' that's currently in favor, after all.
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Post by jferstler on Jul 18, 2014 17:59:02 GMT -5
I'm an absolutely huge Garth fan but I just am not overly confident he'll score another number 1 hit. This first single may go top ten but I just don't realistically see radio pd's playing Garth over the younger new stars they have been favoring.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 18, 2014 18:33:49 GMT -5
I have no worries about how Garth's lead single will go. It's almost certain to go top 5 if not #1 and sell like crazy. Garth and RCA probably have everything figured out about how they will promote this double album and maximize it's potential (this is Garth after all). It's the follow up singles I'm most interested in. Will they peak relatively high or under perform? In other words how long will Garth's radio career last with this being the unofficial second part of his career? He said himself in his presser that he's thankful that he's getting an opportunity for a second half to his career but how it goes is anybody's guess.
This comeback single I believe will be more country than most of today's radio singles but I do also believe he will throw out a curve ball or two in terms of tackling a different direction than he ever did in the past. Either way I'm like everyone else and really looking forward to see what this single will sound like and how his subsequent album will turn out like. He basically said he had every major songwriter in Nashville pitch him everything they think he'd be interested in so I'm hoping for this era to bring fans some great Garth music.
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 18, 2014 18:35:51 GMT -5
The roll out for this will be like Clear Channel deal on steroids. This will be a hit, whether for real or manufactured. It's how it goes after this song that will tell the story.
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Post by StrongerThanTheTruth on Jul 18, 2014 21:42:10 GMT -5
The roll out for this will be like Clear Channel deal on steroids. This will be a hit, whether for real or manufactured. It's how it goes after this song that will tell the story. If someone thought hearing the same song on the hour every hour get ready I could so see a every half hour for two days straight!
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Post by jdbowman on Jul 18, 2014 22:09:40 GMT -5
Do we think they lead off with the single he teased as being better than "The Dance"?
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 18, 2014 22:41:04 GMT -5
Do we think they lead off with the single he teased as being better than "The Dance"? No. Also, Aldean drops his song the same day!
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Jul 18, 2014 22:44:39 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting this to come out so soon! I'm soooooo excited for this! Automatic #1, guaranteed!
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Post by Kentucky25 on Jul 19, 2014 9:50:48 GMT -5
I'm excited to watch the charts in the coming weeks, with "Dirt" and "Rollercoaster" out, Aldean and Garth putting out new singles, and the climb of songs like "I Don't Dance" it's going to be fun to see how it all goes down.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 19, 2014 16:49:03 GMT -5
Garth's last #1 was the bought and paid for in 1 week More Than A Memory. His previous 12 singles before that dating from mid1999 to 2006 did not go #1 on Billboard. I don't think he has a chance ... especially after hearing who's producing ect. He will continue to be huge LIVE, but if he had trouble at radio then - I can't see him getting radio back now.
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 20, 2014 1:03:48 GMT -5
Garth's last #1 was the bought and paid for in 1 week More Than A Memory. His previous 12 singles before that dating from mid1999 to 2006 did not go #1 on Billboard. I don't think he has a chance ... especially after hearing who's producing ect. He will continue to be huge LIVE, but if he had trouble at radio then - I can't see him getting radio back now. But of those 12 singles, 5 were in the top 10, 8 of them were top 20, and 11 of them were top 30. Only one song, "That Girl Is A Cowboy", failed to reach top 30 (it peaked at 34, according to Wikipedia). It certainly does not compare to his glory days when almost everything was guaranteed top 10, but I wouldn't consider it to be having trouble at radio by any means. Especially considering that, for a good portion of that time, he was technically retired and not really focusing on his career! There are plenty of artists who you could say were "struggling with radio" for a span of 7 or so years, and see that none of their singles in that span even cracked the top 30 (such as the end of Pam Tillis' radio career). And of course he DID follow that dry spell up with the #1 "More Than A Memory", which certainly speaks towards his radio chances if he has a good label beside him. And of course he has only had 3 more chart entries since then: "Workin' for a Livin'", "Midnight Sun", and "The Call". And one of those was top 20. So it is not like he has struggled much since his last #1. I would wager that the hype surrounding him is pretty legitimate right now in the industry. I agree that his comeback is going to be huge, but the subsequent singles will definitely be the true determining factor to his modern-day staying power.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jul 20, 2014 1:26:38 GMT -5
Garth's last #1 was the bought and paid for in 1 week More Than A Memory. His previous 12 singles before that dating from mid1999 to 2006 did not go #1 on Billboard. I don't think he has a chance ... especially after hearing who's producing ect. He will continue to be huge LIVE, but if he had trouble at radio then - I can't see him getting radio back now. But of those 12 singles, 5 were in the top 10, 8 of them were top 20, and 11 of them were top 30. Only one song, "That Girl Is A Cowboy", failed to reach top 30 (it peaked at 34, according to Wikipedia). It certainly does not compare to his glory days when almost everything was guaranteed top 10, but I wouldn't consider it to be having trouble at radio by any means. Especially considering that, for a good portion of that time, he was technically retired and not really focusing on his career! There are plenty of artists who you could say were "struggling with radio" for a span of 7 or so years, and see that none of their singles in that span even cracked the top 30 (such as the end of Pam Tillis' radio career). And of course he DID follow that dry spell up with the #1 "More Than A Memory", which certainly speaks towards his radio chances if he has a good label beside him. And of course he has only had 3 more chart entries since then: "Workin' for a Livin'", "Midnight Sun", and "The Call". And one of those was top 20. So it is not like he has struggled much since his last #1. I would wager that the hype surrounding him is pretty legitimate right now in the industry. I agree that his comeback is going to be huge, but the subsequent singles will definitely be the true determining factor to his modern-day staying power. In addition to a portion of those singles being released while he was in "retirement" . I would add that one single "Its Your Song" was a live song , which traditionally aren't very high charting as singles. And a dip back into his old catalog and releasing "Wild Horses" from his third album. (For some reason , I have no memory of that being released what so ever , let alone it reaching #7.) Having guest appearance's on singles from George Jones, Steve Wariner , & Trisha could have had him competing with himself as well. I don't believe Garth is going to see his early 90's height of fame , but I wouldn't be surprised if he had quite a bit more gas in the tank .
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 20, 2014 10:38:32 GMT -5
But of those 12 singles, 5 were in the top 10, 8 of them were top 20, and 11 of them were top 30. Only one song, "That Girl Is A Cowboy", failed to reach top 30 (it peaked at 34, according to Wikipedia). It certainly does not compare to his glory days when almost everything was guaranteed top 10, but I wouldn't consider it to be having trouble at radio by any means. Especially considering that, for a good portion of that time, he was technically retired and not really focusing on his career! There are plenty of artists who you could say were "struggling with radio" for a span of 7 or so years, and see that none of their singles in that span even cracked the top 30 (such as the end of Pam Tillis' radio career). And of course he DID follow that dry spell up with the #1 "More Than A Memory", which certainly speaks towards his radio chances if he has a good label beside him. And of course he has only had 3 more chart entries since then: "Workin' for a Livin'", "Midnight Sun", and "The Call". And one of those was top 20. So it is not like he has struggled much since his last #1. I would wager that the hype surrounding him is pretty legitimate right now in the industry. I agree that his comeback is going to be huge, but the subsequent singles will definitely be the true determining factor to his modern-day staying power. In addition to a portion of those singles being released while he was in "retirement" . I would add that one single "Its Your Song" was a live song , which traditionally aren't very high charting as singles. And a dip back into his old catalog and releasing "Wild Horses" from his third album. (For some reason , I have no memory of that being released what so ever , let alone it reaching #7.) Having guest appearance's on singles from George Jones, Steve Wariner , & Trisha could have had him competing with himself as well. I don't believe Garth is going to see his early 90's height of fame , but I wouldn't be surprised if he had quite a bit more gas in the tank . Come on now ... Would you be saying that Luke Bryan's not struggling at radio right now if 7 of his last 12 singles didn't crack the top 10? Of course not. For any major artist at the top of his game anything less than a top 5 is considered a failure. If it doesn't crack the top 20 it's a catastrophic failure. Country radio was tired of Garth and his 3 ring circus the last 5 years before his "retirement". Yes - he could have a couple top 10's maybe ... But I really doubt we'll see a major run at radio by Garth at this point in time. Especially after him announcing his producer is his old engineer. He's still more than likely going to have a very dated sound. If he'd used a current producer on this project - then maybe he'd have a chance at an extended run at radio. But not without a current sound.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jul 20, 2014 13:55:53 GMT -5
I don't know how fair it is to compare radio chart success from 15 to 20 years ago with the revolving door policy of todays charts(not that there wasn't manipulation back then as well). But if radio insists it only plays many of todays acts that are country in name only because they sell , I'm curious to see if they are willing to do the same for an older act. You may very well be correct and his radio career may be in the past. But if the new music sells as we all know it will , it will be "Country" radio's job to explain why the same rules don't apply to Garth as the garbage Nashville has been vomiting out for the last few years.
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Post by straitfan87 on Jul 20, 2014 14:07:53 GMT -5
I'm thinking radio will play this to the top 5 no matter* what it sounds like. He was never my favorite of the 90's stars but I've always liked him a lot. I'm excited to hear what he's got up his sleeve eitherway. I'd be very happy if he came back with something along the lines of "The Beaches Of Cheyenne", but realistically he'll return with something along the lines of "Friends In Low Places" or "American Honky Tonk Bar Association. A duet with Trisha right off the bat would also be welcome. :) *well as long as it's some kind of country. I'm also very interested to see what this single will be like. I too hope its closer to TBoC. Guess well see :)
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 20, 2014 14:40:57 GMT -5
In addition to a portion of those singles being released while he was in "retirement" . I would add that one single "Its Your Song" was a live song , which traditionally aren't very high charting as singles. And a dip back into his old catalog and releasing "Wild Horses" from his third album. (For some reason , I have no memory of that being released what so ever , let alone it reaching #7.) Having guest appearance's on singles from George Jones, Steve Wariner , & Trisha could have had him competing with himself as well. I don't believe Garth is going to see his early 90's height of fame , but I wouldn't be surprised if he had quite a bit more gas in the tank . Come on now ... Would you be saying that Luke Bryan's not struggling at radio right now if 7 of his last 12 singles didn't crack the top 10? Of course not. For any major artist at the top of his game anything less than a top 5 is considered a failure. If it doesn't crack the top 20 it's a catastrophic failure. Country radio was tired of Garth and his 3 ring circus the last 5 years before his "retirement". Yes - he could have a couple top 10's maybe ... But I really doubt we'll see a major run at radio by Garth at this point in time. Especially after him announcing his producer is his old engineer. He's still more than likely going to have a very dated sound. If he'd used a current producer on this project - then maybe he'd have a chance at an extended run at radio. But not without a current sound. Engineers work in the studios all the time. They know the trends. He's not gonna be a problem with the new music. Look at what Buddy Cannon does, the 'old stuff' with Willie and Jamey and the 'new stuff' with Chesney. Garth's gonna have A-list material available to him, he still sells records. The songs production from the demos usually dictates how songs sound in their final versions, not what the end producer does w/it (though sometimes it IS different).
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Post by countrymusic20 on Jul 20, 2014 16:15:26 GMT -5
Come on now ... Would you be saying that Luke Bryan's not struggling at radio right now if 7 of his last 12 singles didn't crack the top 10? Of course not. For any major artist at the top of his game anything less than a top 5 is considered a failure. If it doesn't crack the top 20 it's a catastrophic failure. Country radio was tired of Garth and his 3 ring circus the last 5 years before his "retirement". Yes - he could have a couple top 10's maybe ... But I really doubt we'll see a major run at radio by Garth at this point in time. Especially after him announcing his producer is his old engineer. He's still more than likely going to have a very dated sound. If he'd used a current producer on this project - then maybe he'd have a chance at an extended run at radio. But not without a current sound. Engineers work in the studios all the time. They know the trends. He's not gonna be a problem with the new music. Look at what Buddy Cannon does, the 'old stuff' with Willie and Jamey and the 'new stuff' with Chesney. Garth's gonna have A-list material available to him, he still sells records. The songs production from the demos usually dictates how songs sound in their final versions, not what the end producer does w/it (though sometimes it IS different). That's a valid point about Buddy Cannon ... But when was the last time you saw Mark Miller's name on the credits of a top 40 song or album? More Than A Memory was the last time I saw it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Audio engineering is changing every day with new versions of pro tools, and all the new programs available. No, all engineers don't keep up with the technology, especially ones that haven't been working hardly at all in the last 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:39:38 GMT -5
I believe Garth's digital music goes live tomorrow with the new single on his website. So I am curious how many people here would purchase the new single directly from Garth through his website, rather than iTunes.
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Post by kas5462 on Jul 21, 2014 11:50:57 GMT -5
I believe Garth's digital music goes live tomorrow with the new single on his website. So I am curious how many people here would purchase the new single directly from Garth through his website, rather than iTunes. I definitely would. Sometimes I find iTunes to be quite a pain. As an artist myself, I like the fact that my 1.29 is going straight towards an artist and not a middle man.
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Post by StrongerThanTheTruth on Jul 21, 2014 12:07:19 GMT -5
Broadway tweeted out: "New Garth may arrive tomorrow"
HE NEEDS TO BE RIGHT! Monday: Reba....Tuesday: Garth! This could be a fantastic week!
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jul 21, 2014 12:20:14 GMT -5
I believe Garth's digital music goes live tomorrow with the new single on his website. So I am curious how many people here would purchase the new single directly from Garth through his website, rather than iTunes. I would rather download from iTunes.. I don't like buying digital music from anywhere else, to be honest. Correct me if I'm wrong: his catalog will definitely only be available on his website, but new music may or may not be on iTunes?
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Post by ant on Jul 21, 2014 12:26:44 GMT -5
I believe Garth's digital music goes live tomorrow with the new single on his website. So I am curious how many people here would purchase the new single directly from Garth through his website, rather than iTunes. I would rather download from iTunes.. I don't like buying digital music from anywhere else, to be honest. Correct me if I'm wrong: his catalog will definitely only be available on his website, but new music may or may not be on iTunes? I don't think the new music will be on iTunes either, just his website.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jul 21, 2014 12:37:42 GMT -5
I have no money on iTunes so it's a good thing it's only available through his website for me. I only want certain singles, not an entire album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:49:11 GMT -5
I would rather download from iTunes.. I don't like buying digital music from anywhere else, to be honest. Correct me if I'm wrong: his catalog will definitely only be available on his website, but new music may or may not be on iTunes? I don't think the new music will be on iTunes either, just his website. I believe all his digital music at this point will only be available through his website. RCA catered to his demands to sign him.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 21, 2014 16:46:28 GMT -5
I have no money on iTunes so it's a good thing it's only available through his website for me. I only want certain singles, not an entire album. The single likely WON'T be on his website. The old stuff All the old albums, will be sold at a package deal or regular price. But they WILL be "Album Only." Engineers work in the studios all the time. They know the trends. He's not gonna be a problem with the new music. Look at what Buddy Cannon does, the 'old stuff' with Willie and Jamey and the 'new stuff' with Chesney. Garth's gonna have A-list material available to him, he still sells records. The songs production from the demos usually dictates how songs sound in their final versions, not what the end producer does w/it (though sometimes it IS different). That's a valid point about Buddy Cannon ... But when was the last time you saw Mark Miller's name on the credits of a top 40 song or album? More Than A Memory was the last time I saw it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Audio engineering is changing every day with new versions of pro tools, and all the new programs available. No, all engineers don't keep up with the technology, especially ones that haven't been working hardly at all in the last 10 years. Why would Mark Miller NOT keep up with the technology. How do you know he's not been busy and why would only credits on a "top 40 song or album" mean he's a good engineer/producer. Garth CLEARLY chose him because the man knows how to work with Garth and what Garth wants. That cannot be understated enough here. Just because YOU think that an engineer who hasn't had credits on mainstream stuff isn't qualified to produce Garth's music or have it be 'current' doesn't mean that he's not qualified or going to be good at it. Do you think a producer with a 'name' would've done anything for Garth at all? I doubt it. Besides, he'd likely have picked someone like Don Was or Rick Rubin to work with if not his core group of guys. The musicians on the record are all the same guys he's worked with in years past too.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jul 21, 2014 16:49:59 GMT -5
I have no money on iTunes so it's a good thing it's only available through his website for me. I only want certain singles, not an entire album. The single likely WON'T be on his website. The old stuff All the old albums, will be sold at a package deal or regular price. But they WILL be "Album Only." Which I should have guessed, with it being Garth. Wish he'd do prices on an individual basis.
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