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Post by jjose712 on Dec 5, 2014 14:25:48 GMT -5
As expected he collected a good bunch of grammy nominations: Best new artist, Song of the year, Record of the year, Best pop vocal album and Best pop solo performance.
Album of the year wasn't announced yet, if he scored that he would be nominated in all main cathegories. I know he was a clear favourite to score a bunch of nominations and he is clear favourite to win Best new artist but i still remember what happened last year with Lorde who was the clear favourite to win best new artist at in the end she wasn't even nominated.
Pop is probably the chart this song is doing worse right now, giving all circumstances this should explode anytime (like it happened with Waves or Jealous when they reached the top 10) and if improves it will get a high peak because a lot of songs are going to start to fall while this will be still climbing (and right now nothing behind it is climbing fast enough to be a threat in the short time)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 6, 2014 9:10:09 GMT -5
He scored album of the year nomination too
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 7, 2014 13:45:21 GMT -5
In the lonely hour stays at 4 on UK's albums chart. Like i can is at 13, I'm not the only one at 22 and Stay with me is at 28.
Stay with me is number one on the Urban AC charts for the 11th week (it's at 3 on AC).
I'm not the only one it's top 5 on Hot AC, reach top 20 on rhythmic and near top 20 on urban ac. Giving that this song is top 10 on itunes and top 10 on the callout scores and reached top 10 on pop it's time to start to receive good updates because that bullet is a little weak
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 8, 2014 16:52:25 GMT -5
At last a good update, a +204 today.
By the way, his version of have yourself a merry little christmas is top 20 on itunes
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 10, 2014 13:35:45 GMT -5
Top 20 on AC, anyway that chart will be a little crazy from now on. Have yourself a merry little christmas enter at 47
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 13, 2014 7:45:06 GMT -5
I keep waiting this to explode but nothing, after a couple of decent updates another meh one (at least the bullet looks way healthier). Anyway, i think it would get a good peak here and on the hot 100, everytime the song seems to start to fall on itunes, recovers and come back to top 10.
He release the video for Like i can, so i suppose it will be released when this peak. I'm quite curious about how will do that song. On one hand it seems the perfect song for the US market, it's very different from previous singles and it's catchy, on the other hand it's different from the previous singles (that works on both ways) and it's not a song that is really selling (that never stopped a song from being a hit when it's released as single, but selling well before the release shows interest in the song).
I watched a video of him with Taylor Swift singing Money on my mind and i quite suprised at how tall Sam is, i know he is tall, but he is really big
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 16, 2014 12:08:31 GMT -5
This is not exploding on pop for some reason, at least it's keeping the positive updates (which is something given how weird some updates are later). On Hot Ac the song totally froze, with small negative updates. But it's still doing well on Rhythmic and Urban AC (Stay with me lost number one after 11th weeks at the top but it's close enough to even try a second run at the top of the chart). On AC this is holding in the top 20 meanwhile Have yourself a merry little Christmas totally exploded on that chart and it's at number 12 after 7 days on the chart
I think this is still far from peaking, and maybe he should do try a mashup at the Grammys, giving this a final push and start to promote Like i can (of course maybe by then the situation will be different)
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 17, 2014 14:23:18 GMT -5
New peak of 5 on the hot 100 this week
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 18, 2014 0:38:43 GMT -5
Passes 1 million in sales this week
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 18, 2014 6:16:43 GMT -5
Passes 1 million in sales this week In the USA and in the UK. It's the first (and only right now) to pass one million this year in boths sides of Atlantic Now that i read again, i don't know if you were talking about the album or the single. The sales i was talking about were of In the lonely hour
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Post by surfy on Dec 18, 2014 10:36:42 GMT -5
Passes 1 million in sales this week In the USA and in the UK. It's the first (and only right now) to pass one million this year in boths sides of Atlantic Now that i read again, i don't know if you were talking about the album or the single. The sales i was talking about were of In the lonely hour Actually 1989 was the first to pass a million here anyways....
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 18, 2014 12:30:32 GMT -5
Sam's album was the first to do it in both areas. The UK don't get that many million sellers I don't think do they?
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 18, 2014 13:54:39 GMT -5
In the USA and in the UK. It's the first (and only right now) to pass one million this year in boths sides of Atlantic Now that i read again, i don't know if you were talking about the album or the single. The sales i was talking about were of In the lonely hour Actually 1989 was the first to pass a million here anyways.... The first in pass 1 million both sides of Atlantic. Of course Taylor passed one million in the United States, Ed Sheeran passed one million in the UK before Sam too, but Taylor didn't passed one million in UK, and Sheeran didn't passed one million in the USA (in both cases, yet, because there are good chances of both doing it in the future but it won't be in the natural year)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 18, 2014 13:56:30 GMT -5
Sam's album was the first to do it in both areas. The UK don't get that many million sellers I don't think do they? Generally they used to have 4 or 5 million sellers during the natural year, but X by Ed Sheeran was the first million seller since Our version of the events by Emeli Sande in 2012. The last year that had more than one album selling more than a million in a natural year was 2011
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Post by surfy on Dec 18, 2014 13:56:39 GMT -5
Actually 1989 was the first to pass a million here anyways.... The first in pass 1 million both sides of Atlantic. Of course Taylor passed one million in the United States, Ed Sheeran passed one million in the UK before Sam too, but Taylor didn't passed one million in UK, and Sheeran didn't passed one million in the USA (in both cases, yet, because there are good chances of both doing it in the future but it won't be in the natural year) Oh, I see what you mean now!
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 18, 2014 14:17:29 GMT -5
The first in pass 1 million both sides of Atlantic. Of course Taylor passed one million in the United States, Ed Sheeran passed one million in the UK before Sam too, but Taylor didn't passed one million in UK, and Sheeran didn't passed one million in the USA (in both cases, yet, because there are good chances of both doing it in the future but it won't be in the natural year) Oh, I see what you mean now! No problem. English is not my language and sometimes between what i write and what i think i write there is a big difference
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Post by surfy on Dec 18, 2014 14:19:02 GMT -5
Oh, I see what you mean now! No problem. English is not my language and sometimes between what i write and what i think i write there are a big difference Completely understandable! :) Thank you for explaining! :)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 20, 2014 7:41:25 GMT -5
It seems this is exploding on pop at last. Yesterday it had a +244 and today a +316
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Post by irice22 on Dec 20, 2014 16:08:19 GMT -5
Wow. Adele sure did bring the ballad back in the 2010's. There's so many this Christmas season!
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 20, 2014 18:39:51 GMT -5
Wow. Adele sure did bring the ballad back in the 2010's. There's so many this Christmas season! Well, the truth is she made a lot of things that it seemed out of fashion (or not commercial) fashionables again. And there's a certain new tendency of sensitive guys at least in british musicians, Ed Sheeran, Sam and George Ezra totally dominated the UK album charts this year
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 21, 2014 14:04:33 GMT -5
Repeats at 26 on Uk's chart (Stay with me climbs at 19 and Like i can at 13), the album holds at 2. On the US airplay charts, apart of the great updates of the last days on pop, it recovers a beat on Hot AC (holds at 4). Stay with me recovers number one on the Urban AC chart (12 non consecutive weeks), and Have yourself a merry little christmas enters in several charts (Urban AC, Hot AC) and reach top 10 on AAA
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 23, 2014 8:36:18 GMT -5
Almost a +350 today. I think it'll be top 5 before the end of the week
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Post by NeRD on Dec 24, 2014 17:44:23 GMT -5
Looks like this'll go at least Top 3. Hopefully Jealous and Love Me Harder will be on their way down by the time this nears the top.
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 24, 2014 18:06:03 GMT -5
Looks like this'll go at least Top 3. Hopefully Jealous and Love Me Harder will be on their way down by the time this nears the top. I don't think Jealous will be a problem, Love me harder is slowing down a bit. I think (if this is able to continue with the big updates) the only thing that can stop it from number one is Blank Space not falling down. If this slow the updates (the big updates are very recent) Take me to church and Uptown funk will pass it. Anyway it has a chance at number one, something that a couple of weeks ago didn't seem possible
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 27, 2014 8:02:47 GMT -5
Number 4 now. Curiously i think it peaked at 5 on the billboard hot 100, probably not peaked on billboard points, because the sales are not decreasing and it's climbing on airplay, but it has in one of that situations when the song is doing well but the songs ahead are doing better.
Anyway, given the fact it has the biggest bullet on the top 10 i think it has an small chance of getting number one on pop
And curiously, the song started to rise up again on canadian pop airplay, and it's at 2 (Stay with me peaked at 3 even when it was way more successful than any song that was on the chart top ten at that moment with seven weeks number one on the hot 100). This seemed to follow that pattern of underperformed with a brief stint at number five, but a couple of days ago started to climb again and it's now at 2. The chances of being number one are very few because Blank Space has a solid advantage
And by the way, it took a lifetime but Stay with me became a top 10 hit on Spain. Spain is not exactly an attractive market (apart as the gates to make it big in south america) with all the piracy and some of changing laws that made big artist ignore it as a place of concerts, but it was absolutely weird how he was ignored (it's true he didn't made any promo him) because La, la, la was a big hit here. Money on my mind was played for a little time, and then he dissapear, In the lonely hour peaked out of top 70 (now it has a peak at 68). There was a moment that in europe only France and Spain were ignoring him (but France started to chart Stay with me faster than Spain). Now Stay with me is top 10 on the official chart and number 5 on the most popular airplay chart (it took 17 weeks to go there, in fact Rude entered the chart at the same time, went number one and dissapeared from the chart in that time). The album still not reflected his recent popularity (he is promoted in a tv channel right now, the channel is aimed to female audiences and promote an artist every month) but with the gains in exposure and the next Grammy's i think he will do fine from now on
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 28, 2014 13:41:35 GMT -5
This is up to 25 in the UK singles chart, Stay with me down to 22 and Like i can up to 12. The album stays at 2.
In USA airplay charts INTOO reached a new peak at 4 on pop, at 3 on Hot AC and at 16 on AC (it'll be top 10 when the christmas songs dissapear from the chart, or at least looks like it'll be). The song stays top 20 on Rythmic and Urban AC. Stay with me is another week (i lost count but i think they are 13) on Urban AC.
And Have yourself a merry little christmas went top 50 on pop which is quite interesting given the fact it was not a single and it was not promoted or pushed to radio
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Post by jdanton2 on Dec 28, 2014 14:32:51 GMT -5
This is up to 25 in the UK singles chart, Stay with me down to 22 and Like i can up to 12. The album stays at 2. In USA airplay charts INTOO reached a new peak at 4 on pop, at 3 on Hot AC and at 16 on AC (it'll be top 10 when the christmas songs dissapear from the chart, or at least looks like it'll be). The song stays top 20 on Rythmic and Urban AC. Stay with me is another week (i lost count but i think they are 13) on Urban AC. And Have yourself a merry little christmas went top 50 on pop which is quite interesting given the fact it was not a single and it was not promoted or pushed to radio looks like this was not pushed much in the UK and they instead pushed Like I Can. at least happy they did not give up on this in the US since this is a much better song .
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 28, 2014 15:24:16 GMT -5
This is up to 25 in the UK singles chart, Stay with me down to 22 and Like i can up to 12. The album stays at 2. In USA airplay charts INTOO reached a new peak at 4 on pop, at 3 on Hot AC and at 16 on AC (it'll be top 10 when the christmas songs dissapear from the chart, or at least looks like it'll be). The song stays top 20 on Rythmic and Urban AC. Stay with me is another week (i lost count but i think they are 13) on Urban AC. And Have yourself a merry little christmas went top 50 on pop which is quite interesting given the fact it was not a single and it was not promoted or pushed to radio looks like this was not pushed much in the UK and they instead pushed Like I Can. at least happy they did not give up on this in the US since this is a much better song . No, this song was the official third single there, and it peaked at 3, it's on its 21th week on the chart and still top 30 (not as big as Stay with me or Money on my mind, but still a sizable hit). Like i can peaked at 9, and was more or less a surprise release, it wasn't the release date but he performed on X Factor. The video was released a couple of weeks ago. For some reason i think Like i can will do better on the USA than on Uk. I don't know why, because the truth is it doesn't seem to be a big interest in the song on itunes (there are a good bunch of other songs charting higher) and radio didn't express interest in the song (of course there's no reason to show interest for a song that's not a single, but Safe with me was quite near of top 60 without any push to radio), but the song itself it really suited american radio, it's different from previous singles and probably will start its run by the Grammys. Of course there's a chance that he lose big at the grammys, but even with that i think right now (like Have yourself a merry little christmas prove) radio is eager for his songs. It's not a sure shot like it was Set fire to the rain (which peaked outside of top 10 on UK, not rare given how many albums Adele had sold by then, but it sold more than 600000 on itunes before the release as single in the USA) but i think it will do very well. You never know with british singers, there are a good bunch of artist that seemed destined to long and successful careers who failed miserably with the second album (Duffy is the perfect example) but he has a big advantage, like Ed Sheeran he is not promoted in the typical style of a male pop star, he is able to sold both sides of the pond, and he has a big adult following, and that's way more important than people use to think. It's true that are teen girls the ones that usually make an artist being a hit or the singer of the moment, but generally is the adult following the one that carry the career in the long run (specially because it's quite difficult to grow at the same time than the teen fans, and teens generally change their minds a lot). I'm quite curious if George Ezra who was the third male to sold more albums in the UK this year is able to do what Ed and Sam did first (and which path he is going to have, because to be honest, Sam had it way easier to break in the US than Ed)
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Post by jdanton2 on Dec 28, 2014 15:57:29 GMT -5
looks like this was not pushed much in the UK and they instead pushed Like I Can. at least happy they did not give up on this in the US since this is a much better song . No, this song was the official third single there, and it peaked at 3, it's on its 21th week on the chart and still top 30 (not as big as Stay with me or Money on my mind, but still a sizable hit). Like i can peaked at 9, and was more or less a surprise release, it wasn't the release date but he performed on X Factor. The video was released a couple of weeks ago. For some reason i think Like i can will do better on the USA than on Uk. I don't know why, because the truth is it doesn't seem to be a big interest in the song on itunes (there are a good bunch of other songs charting higher) and radio didn't express interest in the song (of course there's no reason to show interest for a song that's not a single, but Safe with me was quite near of top 60 without any push to radio), but the song itself it really suited american radio, it's different from previous singles and probably will start its run by the Grammys. Of course there's a chance that he lose big at the grammys, but even with that i think right now (like Have yourself a merry little christmas prove) radio is eager for his songs. It's not a sure shot like it was Set fire to the rain (which peaked outside of top 10 on UK, not rare given how many albums Adele had sold by then, but it sold more than 600000 on itunes before the release as single in the USA) but i think it will do very well. You never know with british singers, there are a good bunch of artist that seemed destined to long and successful careers who failed miserably with the second album (Duffy is the perfect example) but he has a big advantage, like Ed Sheeran he is not promoted in the typical style of a male pop star, he is able to sold both sides of the pond, and he has a big adult following, and that's way more important than people use to think. It's true that are teen girls the ones that usually make an artist being a hit or the singer of the moment, but generally is the adult following the one that carry the career in the long run (specially because it's quite difficult to grow at the same time than the teen fans, and teens generally change their minds a lot). I'm quite curious if George Ezra who was the third male to sold more albums in the UK this year is able to do what Ed and Sam did first (and which path he is going to have, because to be honest, Sam had it way easier to break in the US than Ed) i did not realize it peaked that high there. it must have done so much earlier there than the US release that i did not notice it at the time.
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 28, 2014 16:28:56 GMT -5
I think it was released more or less at the same time. The song was in the chart before being a proper single (not as long as for example Ed Sheeran's Thinking out loud that was on the chart since the album's). I thought it would peak on the lower part of the top 10, but it kept rising till number 3.
I think he will have a tough time getting more top 10 from this album. The album sold more than a million which makes way more difficult to sell the singles, of course with the new rules about streaming there's a chance even when his videos are not the type that carry a lot of views.
In the UK songs generally peak in their first weeks (a decade or so ago most songs peaked in their first week but that changed a lot in recent years), in the USA airplay generally carry the songs up the charts for a good while
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