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Post by Kii on Oct 31, 2014 16:45:44 GMT -5
This song just isn't that good imo. It has a great build-up but the "drop" is dull and underwhelming. I don't think it is as interesting or appealing as "Boom Clap". Mte. The verses and chorus are great but that "drop" post-chorus is so plodding and boring. If they added the 'na na na' from the very end of the song throughout the song it would have improved the hook factor quite a lot. The video for this is great too.. perhaps a remix is in order to push this on radio a bit harder?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 16:47:47 GMT -5
This song is basically everything I hate about current CHR hits mixed together in one song. Ugh.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 3, 2014 7:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by theflying on Nov 3, 2014 8:50:45 GMT -5
I hate to sound like a label exec but the song just sounds too British. No one gets wrecked while "putting on their dancin shoes, going to the discotech". It's just awkward.
Song only works if she sounds cool. Those terms undercut that.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 9:20:41 GMT -5
If Boom Clap hadn't gone #1, this would never have gotten anywhere near Top 40.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 3, 2014 9:45:39 GMT -5
This song is basically everything I hate about current CHR hits mixed together in one song. Ugh. I can't think of any pop song it resembles outside of Charli XCX's own work (notably I Love It). Beyond that, it's far closer to The Blur than anything on pop right now.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 9:46:57 GMT -5
This is one of my favorites! So fun and addicting to listen to, but I love Charli in general so...
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Post by musiciscool on Nov 3, 2014 11:14:14 GMT -5
"Boom Clap" was phenomenal. I really don't see this doing any better on Pop. It keeps hovering around #35. I don't know if this will even reach The Top 30.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 4, 2014 7:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Nov 4, 2014 10:03:23 GMT -5
Hopefully it can stay around until the AMA's. That should give it a push.
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Post by gerry on Nov 6, 2014 0:29:12 GMT -5
I think this has a good chance at going top 30 this weekend with songs dropping and 3 going recurrent this weekend. AT40 is also finally playing the single this weekend too.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 6, 2014 7:07:05 GMT -5
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Post by Kishi KCM on Nov 6, 2014 9:36:32 GMT -5
I think this has a good chance at going top 30 this weekend with songs dropping and 3 going recurrent this weekend. AT40 is also finally playing the single this weekend too. I had no clue it wasn't playing on AT40 yet. That will make a major difference. "Boom Clap" has been gaining for some strange reason.
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Post by theflying on Nov 6, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
Because Boom Clap is perfect.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 8, 2014 7:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Nov 8, 2014 8:27:32 GMT -5
Sales are still lacking. The AMAs or other televised performances can't come soon enough.
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Post by theflying on Nov 8, 2014 8:48:40 GMT -5
Why do people always throw out the "no promo" card when a song isn't connecting?
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Post by surfy on Nov 8, 2014 11:55:08 GMT -5
Why do people always throw out the "no promo" card when a song isn't connecting? Because it literally hasn't been promoted yet... If she does promote it and then sales are still poor, THEN we can say the song is not connecting. I mean, when a relatively new artist, especially one like Charli, it's hard for anyone to know the new single is out, especially with no promo. I'm not saying the song isn't connecting, we just don't know for sure yet.
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Post by YesImaSinner on Nov 8, 2014 14:38:50 GMT -5
Why do people always throw out the "no promo" card when a song isn't connecting? All her past singles (I Don't Care, Fancy, Boom Clap) had some sort of promo. This has had nothing.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 8, 2014 14:52:23 GMT -5
Why do people always throw out the "no promo" card when a song isn't connecting? Because promotion can do wonders for a song. Leona's "Bleeding Love" for example didn't start to pick up traction until the second time they sent it for adds and did a radio station tour + televised performances and that became one of the biggest hits of its time and of the 00s. Promotion can be a key factor in a songs success. If promotion doesn't help it/get the train going, then fair enough.
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Post by theflying on Nov 8, 2014 15:35:07 GMT -5
I dooooonnt knowwww I kind of think generally good songs ride above, say, #300 if they're top 30 on pop. (Granted I don't know where it is specifically bit it's really low.)
There's a difference between no televised promo and having ten million audience impressions on radio for an artist with two/three massive hits under her belt and it not being in the top X hundred.
The song can rise without television performances and stay in the chart for a few weeks but it's doomed to crash and burn eventually at a low peak if people don't like it. There's only so much you can do.
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Post by surfy on Nov 8, 2014 15:37:58 GMT -5
I dooooonnt knowwww I kind of think generally good songs ride above, say, #300 if they're top 30 on pop. (Granted I don't know where it is specifically bit it's really low.) There's a difference between no televised promo and having ten million audience impressions on radio for an artist with two/three massive hits under her belt and it not being in the top X hundred. The song can rise without television performances and stay in the chart for a few weeks but it's doomed to crash and burn eventually at a low peak if people don't like it. There's only so much you can do. Charli is NOT a big name. Period. You're holding it to a different standard (pop staples, big names, viral hits, international crossovers) And you don't know if people don't like it yet! They have done literally no promo for it, stranger things have happened in terms of radio success and low sales, trust me. Just wait until she does promo, and if no one buys it, THEN we can say it's not connecting...
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Post by theflying on Nov 8, 2014 16:02:50 GMT -5
Nuh uh uh, "big hits" does not mean "established name", and I don't buy the excuse that just because she hasn't established her brand yet doesn't mean that Charli XCX can't take a song that's GOOD that's top 30 on pop and raise it to above the 200s on iTunes.
There's a difference between Ella Henderson, who has a song that clearly people like and sells well despite little AirPlay that needs promo to gain traction and put her name out there, and Charli XCX who has a song out now that isn't connecting.
You can TELL when someone needs promo to break through and when someone "needs promo".0
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Post by surfy on Nov 8, 2014 16:30:04 GMT -5
Nuh uh uh, "big hits" does not mean "established name", and I don't buy the excuse that just because she hasn't established her brand yet doesn't mean that Charli XCX can't take a song that's GOOD that's top 30 on pop and raise it to above the 200s on iTunes. There's a difference between Ella Henderson, who has a song that clearly people like and sells well despite little AirPlay that needs promo to gain traction and put her name out there, and Charli XCX who has a song out now that isn't connecting. You can TELL when someone needs promo to break through and when someone "needs promo".0 All I can say is WAIT. That's it You may be right, but WAIT for the answer to show up, don't just assume people don't like it. Everyone I've shown it too loves it...
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 9, 2014 7:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by Fancy on Nov 9, 2014 13:49:53 GMT -5
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Post by kanimal on Nov 9, 2014 16:58:53 GMT -5
Boom Clap never sold anywhere near as well as it should have given the success at radio (especially since it got a big boost from TFIOS). There's some sort of issue with the Charli XCX brand that is bigger than the argument about whether this particular song is "connecting."
That said, what "promo" has Bebe Rexha received to send her song into the Top 200 on iTunes with comparable airplay? What "promo" has Bea Miller received to send her sub-40 song into the Top 200 on iTunes? What "promo" did Nico and Vinz receive to send In Your Arms into the Top 200 almost immediately upon arriving at radio?
A song with this level of pop airplay should be in the Top 200 on iTunes. I just don't know whether this is a Charli XCX issue, a Break the Rules issue or an issue with both.
That also said, great update today!
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Post by surfy on Nov 9, 2014 17:09:48 GMT -5
Boom Clap never sold anywhere near as well as it should have given the success at radio (especially since it got a big boost from TFIOS). There's some sort of issue with the Charli XCX brand that is bigger than the argument about whether this particular song is "connecting." That said, what "promo" has Bebe Rexha received to send her song into the Top 200 on iTunes with comparable airplay? What "promo" has Bea Miller received to send her sub-40 song into the Top 200 on iTunes? What "promo" did Nico and Vinz receive to send In Your Arms into the Top 200 almost immediately upon arriving at radio? A song with this level of pop airplay should be in the Top 200 on iTunes. I just don't know whether this is a Charli XCX issue, a Break the Rules issue or an issue with both. That also said, great update today! ... I told you, the song may not be connecting, but we can't be sure of that until promo happens! Those songs have buzz surrounding them, this doesn't.
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Post by theflying on Nov 9, 2014 17:50:25 GMT -5
Boom Clap never sold anywhere near as well as it should have given the success at radio (especially since it got a big boost from TFIOS). There's some sort of issue with the Charli XCX brand that is bigger than the argument about whether this particular song is "connecting." That said, what "promo" has Bebe Rexha received to send her song into the Top 200 on iTunes with comparable airplay? What "promo" has Bea Miller received to send her sub-40 song into the Top 200 on iTunes? What "promo" did Nico and Vinz receive to send In Your Arms into the Top 200 almost immediately upon arriving at radio? A song with this level of pop airplay should be in the Top 200 on iTunes. I just don't know whether this is a Charli XCX issue, a Break the Rules issue or an issue with both. That also said, great update today! ... I told you, the song may not be connecting, but we can't be sure of that until promo happens! Those songs have buzz surrounding them, this doesn't. Care to elaborate? I literally have no idea what you're referring to in how certain songs have buzz but this doesn't.
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Post by surfy on Nov 9, 2014 17:55:51 GMT -5
... I told you, the song may not be connecting, but we can't be sure of that until promo happens! Those songs have buzz surrounding them, this doesn't. Care to elaborate? I literally have no idea what you're referring to in how certain songs have buzz but this doesn't. You don't hear anyone talking about Charli XCX's new single. Bea has become a hot topic and has gotten the attention of the industry, Nico & Vinz and Bebe are experiencing big marketed radio stations playing the songs and they're both climbing the charts, this song is doing the same thing, but it's getting spins from smaller markets. Anyways, just wait until after promo is over and THEN we can say it's not connecting, just because you don't like a song doesn't mean it isn't connecting for other people when they have the opportunity to hear it.
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