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Post by mairy on Aug 24, 2014 8:07:57 GMT -5
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 24, 2014 12:11:26 GMT -5
First off, she looks great.
Second off, the clip was intreiging that I want to hear the whole song...she is just one good aong from a breakthrough. (Although, Leaving Home should have already done that but I digress)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 24, 2014 14:54:18 GMT -5
This song sounds likes it's gonna be great just from that little clip. Katie Armiger is one of my favorite of the "new girls" that haven't broken through yet, so here's hoping that this single can catch on for her sake, because she's got a great voice and her music is quite good -- for instance the interesting production on a lot of her songs really sets her apart, imo. Plus she's just incredibly beautiful and comes across very down-to-earth from following her on social media, so that doesn't hurt. Looking forward to new music!!
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Post by davidj on Aug 27, 2014 14:43:31 GMT -5
She's had a lot more chances than many other singers. Does anyone know why this is? Usually, you can have a Number 1, and if you're next two singles chart low, you're gone.
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Post by gurustu on Aug 27, 2014 14:58:02 GMT -5
She's had a lot more chances than many other singers. Does anyone know why this is? Usually, you can have a Number 1, and if you're next two singles chart low, you're gone. That's an easy answer David..... it's because she's being funded by Pete O'Heeron of Cold River Records whose a multi-millionaire that obviously believes in her and only her (since he pretty much just pushes her from his label). He's already forked out close to 10 million dollars trying to get her to break out. Me personally though, I don't hear anything special from that clip and I don't see this song being her "breakout" song either. The best shot for her to break out to me was a couple years ago with "Scream", but I haven't really been impressed with her more recent releases (including this one). Let this be a lesson to any artists out there on this board..... it takes A TON of money to break into this business and even sometimes that isn't even enough. I personally think Katie is lacking that "one" thing to make her a star and it's not a hit song. A hit song would help, but personally her voice isn't nearly as good as some of the female singers you hear every day in Nashville and she's lacking personality because she's never truly had to FIGHT for what she wants, everything has been handed to her financially. So she's very lucky, not many artists ever get to meet or have a guy like Pete O'Heeron to help back them.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 9, 2014 10:14:36 GMT -5
Delivered to country radio today. The add date is September 22nd. Listen to audio, courtesy of All Access
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 9, 2014 10:29:46 GMT -5
Hmmm, I like this. Interesting lyric and beat, however, I am not sure if it is good enough to get her enough airplay to get that top 40 hit she so deserves.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 9, 2014 11:04:34 GMT -5
I like this a lot. Not as instant as "Better in a Black Dress," but still a very solid lead single and pretty catchy/accessible. At this point I don't know what will take her to the next level, but she's been slowly building up her brand over the past few years and being able to chart singles, so she's headed in the right direction. It's definitely a slow-and-steady approach. I do think she's going to get her first Top 40 hit soon (whether it's with this song or not), after coming pretty close on two occasions now with "Best Song Ever" and "Better in a Black Dress."
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Post by Markus Meyer on Sept 9, 2014 12:06:07 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that she's the next on the verge artist.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 9, 2014 15:00:42 GMT -5
Taking bets on how long it takes before she has a Top 40 hit. I bet she'll get to 20 singles before she has one.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 9, 2014 15:15:53 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that she's the next on the verge artist. YES. A million times yes. They really need to have a female artist receive the boost, at least then it would be a more "fair" use of it, imo. Taking bets on how long it takes before she has a Top 40 hit. I bet she'll get to 20 singles before she has one. Six more? Eh, I don't think it'll take that long.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 15:28:33 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that she's the next on the verge artist. While I agree that it'd be nice for On The Verge to spotlight a female artist, I highly doubt they'll pick Katie. IF (and that's a big "if") Clear Channel goes with a female, they're much more likely to pick one on a bigger label. Cold River Records is an incredibly small label, and Katie has been their only artist from the start (although it looks like they've also been working Neal McCoy's "Can You Do This" to secondary markets). I don't know if I ever see Katie getting a top 40 hit. The country radio landscape is becoming increasingly harsh toward smaller, independent labels, and Cold River is about as small as it gets. It takes a lot of time, effort, and money for the small labels to get a single into just the top 40. They're clearly committed to Katie but I don't think that means she's guaranteed a top 40 at some point. I'd be stunned if she were the next On The Verge artist. I think the most likely female candidates for On The Verge would be someone on a major label, perhaps someone like Mickey Guyton or Lauren Alaina (although I'm rather doubtful on Lauren), or Kacey Musgraves with the lead-off to her sophomore album. Leah Turner or Jana Kramer would be other possibilities, or perhaps Danielle Bradbery or Cassadee Pope when they return with new material. In the end, though, it's likely to be slim pickings.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 9, 2014 15:34:32 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that she's the next on the verge artist. While I agree that it'd be nice for On The Verge to spotlight a female artist, I highly doubt they'll pick Katie. IF (and that's a big "if") Clear Channel goes with a female, they're much more likely to pick one on a bigger label. Cold River Records is an incredibly small label, and Katie has been their only artist from the start (although it looks like they've also been working Neal McCoy's "Can You Do This" to secondary markets). I don't know if I ever see Katie getting a top 40 hit. The country radio landscape is becoming increasingly harsh toward smaller, independent labels, and Cold River is about as small as it gets. It takes a lot of time, effort, and money for the small labels to get a single into just the top 40. They're clearly committed to Katie but I don't think that means she's guaranteed a top 40 at some point. I'd be stunned if she were the next On The Verge artist. I think the most likely female candidates for On The Verge would be someone on a major label, perhaps someone like Mickey Guyton or Lauren Alaina (although I'm rather doubtful on Lauren), or Kacey Musgraves with the lead-off to her sophomore album. Leah Turner or Jana Kramer would be other possibilities, or perhaps Danielle Bradbery or Cassadee Pope when they return with new material. In the end, though, it's likely to be slim pickings. While I do agree her chances of being picked for that are less likely than other females, Craig Campbell was on a pretty small label when he received the OTV treatment. As for her never getting a Top 40, I suppose it's possible, but her label has been able to continue getting her on the charts single after single these past couple years, so they've been doing a pretty good job despite the small size of Cold River. Maggie Rose benefitted -- to a bit better results -- from a similar status with her former small label, so for the same reasons, I could see Katie continuing to make small steps toward her first Top 40. She's come close twice already and charted in the lower regions of the charts with songs like "Safe" that were surprising to have made the chart at all.
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 9, 2014 15:34:57 GMT -5
Fingers crossed that she's the next on the verge artist. While I agree that it'd be nice for On The Verge to spotlight a female artist, I highly doubt they'll pick Katie. IF (and that's a big "if") Clear Channel goes with a female, they're much more likely to pick one on a bigger label. Cold River Records is an incredibly small label, and Katie has been their only artist from the start (although it looks like they've also been working Neal McCoy's "Can You Do This" to secondary markets). I don't know if I ever see Katie getting a top 40 hit. The country radio landscape is becoming increasingly harsh toward smaller, independent labels, and Cold River is about as small as it gets. It takes a lot of time, effort, and money for the small labels to get a single into just the top 40. They're clearly committed to Katie but I don't think that means she's guaranteed a top 40 at some point. I'd be stunned if she were the next On The Verge artist. I think the most likely female candidates for On The Verge would be someone on a major label, perhaps someone like Mickey Guyton or Lauren Alaina (although I'm rather doubtful on Lauren), or Kacey Musgraves with the lead-off to her sophomore album. Leah Turner or Jana Kramer would be other possibilities, or perhaps Danielle Bradbery or Cassadee Pope when they return with new material. In the end, though, it's likely to be slim pickings. At this point, I would be fine with any female getting the On The Verge. (but if Lauren releases Same Day, Different Bottle I hope its her :) )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 15:55:21 GMT -5
While I do agree her chances of being picked for that are less likely than other females, Craig Campbell was on a pretty small label when he received the OTV treatment. That's true, but Bigger Picture was still a much bigger label than Cold River. They'd worked numerous singles into the top 20 in past years including many of the Zac Brown Band's #1 hits as well as top 20 hits for Uncle Kracker, Gloriana, Chris Cagle, and Craig Campbell (prior to "Keep Them Kisses Comin'"). Cold River is basically just Pete O'Heeron (the label president) pumping money into Katie's career. They did announce some staff additions back in May ( see here), so they've more or less got a full team intact for radio promotion (which could indicate that they're gearing up to go all-in with "One Night Between Friends"), but I'm just not convinced she can get to the top 40 with this or any subsequent releases. She's certainly got a chance, though...we'll just have to wait and see. We'll likely know a lot more by the end of the month, based on the 'launch' for this single.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 23, 2014 11:23:48 GMT -5
16 first week adds for "One Night Between Friends", which is the exact number of first week adds she got with her only MB top 40 single "Better In A Black Dress" in 2012.
I still don't think this will make the top 40, but I do believe that the recent hires at Cold River in the radio promotion department will give her one of the best shot's she's had thus far. Hard to believe that "One Night Between Friends" is the 14th song she's sent to country radio. The first being "17 In Abilene" in 2007.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 23, 2014 11:39:42 GMT -5
16 first week adds for "One Night Between Friends", which is the exact number of first week adds she got with her only MB top 40 single "Better In A Black Dress" in 2012. I still don't think this will make the top 40, but I do believe that the recent hires at Cold River in the radio promotion department will give her one of the best shot's she's had thus far. Hard to believe that "One Night Between Friends" is the 14th song she's sent to country radio. The first being "17 In Abilene" in 2007. And you can see her growth as an artist through those singles. Still young, she's got a label behind her that many wish they had. Her label president is a successful business man and he's got plenty of money to turn the label into another Broken Bow or Black River if he wants to go that route with Katie and other artists. The fact that they've been around for so long DOES matter to radio programmers (who should just play songs that are good, no matter whether they're big or small labels or one hit wonders, that's always been weird to me but it was a marketing ploy by major promo teams that worked).
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Sept 23, 2014 21:34:50 GMT -5
I saw her at a showcase earlier this year in Nashville and she is really good live. But I feel like there have been a million attempts and a lot of money to make this girl successful, and it doesn't appear to be working. Plus country music is a joke when it comes to having successful solo females over the last few years. The only semi-breakout is Kacey Musgraves (who I do love). Great album, she won a lot of awards, but in reality, she barely squeaked out 1 top 10 song, and the album hasn't even sold 500K.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 22:01:02 GMT -5
I saw her at a showcase earlier this year in Nashville and she is really good live. But I feel like there have been a million attempts and a lot of money to make this girl successful, and it doesn't appear to be working. Plus country music is a joke when it comes to having successful solo females over the last few years. The only semi-breakout is Kacey Musgraves (who I do love). Great album, she won a lot of awards, but in reality, she barely squeaked out 1 top 10 song, and the album hasn't even sold 500K. I agree with much of your post, but regarding the bolded part, Kacey's album has sold 450k with one top 10 and another song that barely scraped the top 30. Subsequent releases peaked at #43 and #32, respectively. Any male artist with that track record would be lucky to sell 50k. Jerrod Niemann's recent album, for example, has barely sold more than 60k, even though its lead single was a multi-week #1 and went Platinum in sales. Eric Paslay's debut album has only sold about 30k, and he had a #1 single on Mediabase (#2 on Billboard) and another single that went to #12. Tyler Farr's Redneck Crazy album has barely sold 50k in the past year (and Kacey sold close to 45k in the street week for Same Trailer Different Park). Tyler had a pair of top 3 hits on Billboard, with both songs snagging the #1 position on Mediabase. Cole Swindell, Frankie Ballard, Brett Eldredge, Thomas Rhett, Dustin Lynch, Randy Houser, and Joe Nichols have all scored multiple big radio hits over the past 2 years or so, and yet none of them come close to Kacey in terms of album sales. Heck, you could add up all the album sales for 3-4 of those artists and even then you'd barely get up to a 450k total. It's a testament to Kacey that she's sold 450k (a very solid amount for a new artist in this day and age) with minimal support and resistance from country radio. Katie Armiger is on a small label, though, so it's not too surprising that she hasn't had any singles really become a breakthrough. However, like rsmatto said, her label has been around for a while, and she remains their only artist--they are definitely committed to her. So she does have some things going for her.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 24, 2014 14:13:02 GMT -5
16 first week adds for "One Night Between Friends", which is the exact number of first week adds she got with her only MB top 40 single "Better In A Black Dress" in 2012. I still don't think this will make the top 40, but I do believe that the recent hires at Cold River in the radio promotion department will give her one of the best shot's she's had thus far. Hard to believe that "One Night Between Friends" is the 14th song she's sent to country radio. The first being "17 In Abilene" in 2007. My friend Kellie is one of those new hires! She's been constantly on the move around the east coast promoting Katie's new single for the last month or so. She's one of the most personable people I've ever met, so that could work wonders for Katie as we all know how much of a relationship-driven business this is. I'll definitely be rooting for this to succeed for my friend, but also because its about time this girl had a hit.
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Post by gurustu on Sept 25, 2014 14:37:30 GMT -5
While I do agree her chances of being picked for that are less likely than other females, Craig Campbell was on a pretty small label when he received the OTV treatment. That's true, but Bigger Picture was still a much bigger label than Cold River. They'd worked numerous singles into the top 20 in past years including many of the Zac Brown Band's #1 hits as well as top 20 hits for Uncle Kracker, Gloriana, Chris Cagle, and Craig Campbell (prior to "Keep Them Kisses Comin'"). Cold River is basically just Pete O'Heeron (the label president) pumping money into Katie's career. They did announce some staff additions back in May ( see here), so they've more or less got a full team intact for radio promotion (which could indicate that they're gearing up to go all-in with "One Night Between Friends"), but I'm just not convinced she can get to the top 40 with this or any subsequent releases. She's certainly got a chance, though...we'll just have to wait and see. We'll likely know a lot more by the end of the month, based on the 'launch' for this single. Exactly Jhomes, Cold River is basically Pete O'Heeron and ANY Indie Artist would LOVE to have a Pete in their corner. In 2011, I know for a fact through inside sources, that he had spent close to 10 million dollars on Katie already trying to get her to break the Top 30. It's now three years later so I'd hate to know how much he's spent on her now, especially with the hiring of more radio promotion staff. I know he strongly believes in this girl, sending 14 singles to radio and not blinking at continuing to fork out the cash; but there comes a time when you gotta face the facts that an artist you may strongly believe in just isn't meant to be. Count your losses and move on. I know that sounds hard. But crap, if that man has THAT much money and is willing to form a label then at least sign a couple other acts (a solo male artist and one duo or band) at least and try to recoup some of the money back, along with pushing Katie. I've already stated my opinion before, I don't see this song being the one to break Katie out. I think she had her shot and it already passed her by. IT would take one heck of a song for her to cut and release in order to really break her out, she has never truly had that one GREAT song..... there's no "The House That Built Me", "Merry Go Round", "Jesus Take The Wheel", "On A Bus To St Cloud", "I Hope You Dance", "White Liar", "Temporary Home", etc etc in her arsenal. That's what it's gonna truly take, until they find that one perfect song then I think Pete will just continue to waste his hard earned money.
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Post by gurustu on Nov 12, 2014 15:34:07 GMT -5
They sure aren't done spending more and more money on this girl! I'd love to know how much it cost them to get Justin Baldoni (Jane The Virgin) to direct it and hire Brett Dier (Jane The Virgin) and Haley Lu Richardson (Ravenswood) to star in it. Cute video? Sure, but I still think the song is kind of lame and Katie's vocals don't really do it for me on this one (but mainly because I'm not the biggest fan of this song). Katie Armiger "One Night Between Friends" video premier on Yahoo Music
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 12, 2014 17:33:50 GMT -5
Great video. Quite humorous and it fits the song very well. Does anyone know how this song is doing at radio? It hasn't charted yet but that's all I know.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 13, 2014 0:46:57 GMT -5
Great video. Quite humorous and it fits the song very well. Does anyone know how this song is doing at radio? It hasn't charted yet but that's all I know. This week it had 328k in audience on billboard's new & active section. about 100k from charting so she's close. If she has a good week this week and a few others fall or don't climb much I can see her charting. Then again Blake & Ashley are going to probably be the hot shot debuts.
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Post by bigfan101 on Nov 14, 2014 11:52:07 GMT -5
Video is solid, not in-love with the actors saying the exact lines as the song or that Katie is hardly featured, but it is funny enough. I really like this song, and hope that she can at least chart after they have put so much work into it.
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