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Post by trebor on Nov 26, 2014 12:40:57 GMT -5
You beat me to it. Was about to post the same. :) Have you noticed that the whole Top 10 is in American hands and all Canadian product is basically crowded in between rungs 11 and 23!
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 26, 2014 13:32:02 GMT -5
You beat me to it. Was about to post the same. :) Have you noticed that the whole Top 10 is in American hands and all Canadian product is basically crowded in between rungs 11 and 23! That's not unusual (seems like I've been discussing this at least 3 or 4 times this month). It's rare for Canadian promoted singles to crack the top 4 or 5. The highest most go is the 6-8 range. While many linger in the teens.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 26, 2014 13:40:18 GMT -5
High Valley is currently "#1" in their country as they have the highest placement on their chart at #11.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 26, 2014 13:50:10 GMT -5
High Valley is currently "#1" in their country as they have the highest placement on their chart at #11. High Valley's "County Line" actually sits at #8 on the MB Canadian chart and they peaked at #7 earlier this month. "Shotgun Rider" is the #1 song on that chart as well though. Congrats to Tim, even if he has no idea.
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Post by trebor on Nov 26, 2014 13:57:21 GMT -5
You beat me to it. Was about to post the same. :) Have you noticed that the whole Top 10 is in American hands and all Canadian product is basically crowded in between rungs 11 and 23! That's not unusual (seems like I've been discussing this at least 3 or 4 times this month). It's rare for Canadian promoted singles to crack the top 4 or 5. The highest most go is the 6-8 range. While many linger in the teens. Thanks for your input. :) I know that. :) But no Canadian entry in the Top 10 at all... and considering the good quality of some. Was taken aback this week a bit; that's basically what I wanted to say.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 3, 2014 13:19:44 GMT -5
"Shotgun Rider" is currently at #3 on the MB rolling chart as well on the latest Billboard chart. It's now accumulated roughly the same amount of Billboard audience (41 million) and spins (6800) that "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" got after 13 weeks. Though "Mama's" took 17 weeks to get the same numbers. In fact this is the fastest rising single from Tim since joining Big Machine. "One Of Those Nights" took 17 weeks to hit #1, "Highway Don't Care" took 17 weeks to hit #1 (pretty much the same audience as "Shotgun Rider" has now) and "Southern Girl" took 20 weeks to hit #1 on MB. Though obviously this still has two more spots to climb before reaching #1. Now I'm certainly splitting hairs here since "Shotgun Rider's" climb is only slightly faster than its predecessors but Tim is clearly on top of his game right now. "Shotgun Rider" just seems like one of those songs that country radio eats up with its easy going, head sticking melody. It seems like "Lookin' For That Girl" is a distant memory even though it peaked this past spring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 13:29:31 GMT -5
I agree sabre14, Tim really didn't experience any post-crap song layover that some artists do, especially those at his age. The radio run, as well as the digital sales numbers, have been astounding. The song is really connecting with people. I think this song, along with Perfect Storm and Like a Cowboy, really demonstrate how artists can utilize new musical and/or production methods while still having a traditionally sounding quality song. Perhaps even more impressive is that he still has a couple top 5 hits left on this album. I'd like to see Overrated released next, but if Diamond Rings and Old Barstools is released I'll probably be equally as happy...those are both #1s in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 14:44:48 GMT -5
"Overrated" strikes me as the likely contender for Tim McGraw's next single. However, aside from that one going top 10, I don't see much radio potential for Tim McGraw left on this album. I can see new material being released as soon as fall 2015. "Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" is too slow for radio and the other song I saw as a likely single choice, "Lincoln Continentals and Cadillacs," turns out to only be on an exclusive deluxe edition of the record, so I don't know if it'll get a radio release.
"Shotgun Rider" will surely be a big hit, though. If Tim maintains his lead over Brad Paisley for another two weeks, he should be able to snag the #1 spot for the two weeks at the end of the year when the charts don't change much. I don't think "Perfect Storm" is enough of a hit to knock Tim's song out over the holidays.
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Post by zjames on Dec 3, 2014 17:05:50 GMT -5
"Diamond Rings and Old Barstools" would be my pick for next single, but I'm not sure that's the direction he'll go. "Dust" and "Keep On Truckin'" are the most radio-friendly songs on the album, so I'm thinking he might go with one of those two next. Tim's Two Lanes of Freedom single choices perplexed me, so who knows anymore?
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Post by Marv on Dec 3, 2014 21:52:28 GMT -5
For those of you who listen to 'CT40' every week, has Bob played either 'My Next Thirty Years' or 'Back When' during this wonderful tune's chart run?
Those two tunes each reached the penthouse 10 and 14 years ago ago this month respectively, so I hope he plays both of them over the next 3 or 4 weeks.
Thanks!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 4, 2014 1:21:59 GMT -5
"Overrated" and "Diamond Rings & Old Barstools" get my vote for the next two singles, if they go 5 deep. I imagine since the album is still pretty new and the third single is already about to peak, they should at least opt for two more (especially considering how long the album is and how many options they have on there). But those two are my favorite album tracks and I'd be very content if either one was released.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 4, 2014 11:17:26 GMT -5
For those of you who listen to 'CT40' every week, has Bob played either 'My Next Thirty Years' or 'Back When' during this wonderful tune's chart run? Those two tunes each reached the penthouse 10 and 14 years ago ago this month respectively, so I hope he plays both of them over the next 3 or 4 weeks. Thanks! Well, e-mail him and see what happens! #1 on the mongrel chart. O.K., Billboard, which is it?: Tim McGraw scores his first No. 1 in nearly four years on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs — and his first on the list since it switched from measuring core country radio audience to a sales/airplay/streaming hybrid two years ago — with “Shotgun Rider” (McGraw/Big Machine), which steps 2-1 to become his 25th career leader. McGraw last reached the summit when “Felt Good on My Lips” began a three-week reign on the Jan. 8, 2011 chart. After three weeks at its No. 2 peak on Country Digital Songs, “Shotgun” ranks at No. 3 with 33,000 downloads sold during the tracking week (down 7 percent), with total sales of 232,000, according to Nielsen. Following a No. 20 peak on last week’s Country Streaming Songs tally (dated Dec. 6), the track dips to No. 23 with 667,000 total U.S. streams, down 10 percent. They are considering this to be his 25th #1. I already have him pegged for having 25 #1 hits. Some say his 'duet' with Jo Dee Messina, Bring On The Rain should count. That said, if Shotgun Rider hits #1 on the airplay chart, I will consider it his 26th (while others will have him having 27 chart toppers). What number will you be using?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 4, 2014 17:04:56 GMT -5
Some say his 'duet' with Jo Dee Messina, Bring On The Rain should count. That said, if Shotgun Rider hits #1 on the airplay chart, I will consider it his 26th (while others will have him having 27 chart toppers). What number will you be using? If by "some," you mean everyone but you, then yes. And I'll be using the correct figure since it's not really disputable by the GP. Anyway, congrats on Tim McGraw getting this to #1 on HCS chart before it even gets there on airplay! I'm surprised that "Highway Don't Care" never made it higher than #4 on that chart considering it was quite big.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 4, 2014 17:16:11 GMT -5
Some say his 'duet' with Jo Dee Messina, Bring On The Rain should count. That said, if Shotgun Rider hits #1 on the airplay chart, I will consider it his 26th (while others will have him having 27 chart toppers). What number will you be using? If by "some," you mean everyone but you, then yes. And I'll be using the correct figure since it's not really disputable by the GP. Anyway, congrats on Tim McGraw getting this to #1 on HCS chart before it even gets there on airplay! I'm surprised that "Highway Don't Care" never made it higher than #4 on that chart considering it was quite big. I'll bet when it hits #1 on the airplay chart, Billboard will be saying Tim McGraw has 26 #1s on the chart.
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Post by Marv on Dec 5, 2014 21:53:04 GMT -5
Well we did get another one of Tim's tunes on 'CT40' this weekend as opposed to the two standouts previously mentioned, as the exceptional 'The Cowboy In Me' debuted on the chart thirteen years ago this week, and eventually spent three weeks @ #1 the following March.
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Post by someguy on Dec 5, 2014 22:20:58 GMT -5
"Overrated" and "Diamond Rings & Old Barstools" get my vote for the next two singles, if they go 5 deep. I imagine since the album is still pretty new and the third single is already about to peak, they should at least opt for two more (especially considering how long the album is and how many options they have on there). But those two are my favorite album tracks and I'd be very content if either one was released. I want "Overrated" next too, and I think tonight's performance of it on the Grammy special is a pretty good sign that it will be the next single. Things are looking pretty good for "Shotgun Rider" to be the #1 single over Christmas, so I'd imagine that a fourth single will be announced early in the new year for January adds. I think I'd pick "Diamond Rings & Old Barstools" as the fifth single too, though I'd also be really happy with "Portland, Maine" or "Lincoln Continentals and Cadillacs" (though since that's a bonus track, it's highly unlikely).
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Post by jferstler on Dec 6, 2014 0:34:05 GMT -5
Tim really delivered a very solid album here with this one. I think they could go 6 deep with singles. If they wanted to depending on the success of the following singles. Diamond Dings, City Ljgbts , Sick Of Me Too, and Lincoln Continentals and Cadillacs are all great songs as well.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 6, 2014 1:42:29 GMT -5
Tim really delivered a very solid album here with this one. I think they could go 6 deep with singles. If they wanted to depending on the success of the following singles. Diamond Dings, City Ljgbts , Sick Of Me Too, and Lincoln Continentals and Cadillacs are all great songs as well. I agree that his latest album is very good. Much better than his last imo. Also, I'd like to point out that you butchered three of those song titles, in which I found some comic relief, lol.
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Post by jferstler on Dec 6, 2014 1:46:34 GMT -5
Tim really delivered a very solid album here with this one. I think they could go 6 deep with singles. If they wanted to depending on the success of the following singles. Diamond Dings, City Ljgbts , Sick Of Me Too, and Lincoln Continentals and Cadillacs are all great songs as well. I agree that his latest album is very good. Much better than his last imo. Also, I'd like to point out that you butchered three of those song titles, in which I found some comic relief, lol. Sorry about that! I'm posting off my mobile phone. I assure you I'm not in second grade, haha.
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Post by jesster on Dec 6, 2014 23:19:04 GMT -5
As this song has been rising on the charts, I finally started to focus on the lyrics / title. Most of it is unoffensive, perhaps even positive. But IMO, calling your woman a "shotgun rider" is really offensive and annoying even if you don't take it to the next level of admiring the "rider" occupying your space in your car for her (its) cut-off jeans or pink toenails.
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Post by zjames on Dec 6, 2014 23:25:47 GMT -5
As this song has been rising on the charts, I finally started to focus on the lyrics / title. Most of it is unoffensive, perhaps even positive. But IMO, calling your woman a "shotgun rider" is really offensive and annoying even if you don't take it to the next level of admiring the "rider" occupying your space in your car for her (its) cut-off jeans or pink toenails. I definitely think Tim calling the woman his "shotgun rider" means his partner through life. Lyrics like "wherever sweet time takes us" and "life ain't nothing but a dream, don’t wanna be cruisin’ through this dream without you" definitely support my opinion. I don't think any negative or offensive intentions should be put upon this song.
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Post by someguy on Dec 6, 2014 23:38:32 GMT -5
As this song has been rising on the charts, I finally started to focus on the lyrics / title. Most of it is unoffensive, perhaps even positive. But IMO, calling your woman a "shotgun rider" is really offensive and annoying even if you don't take it to the next level of admiring the "rider" occupying your space in your car for her (its) cut-off jeans or pink toenails. I definitely think Tim calling the woman his "shotgun rider" means his partner through life. Lyrics like "wherever sweet time takes us" and "life ain't nothing but a dream, don’t wanna be cruisin’ through this dream without you" definitely support my opinion. I don't think any negative or offensive intentions should be put upon this song. That's how I interpret it, too. She's his 'shotgun rider' because she's always by his side and is his partner in life, just as he would be her 'shotgun rider'.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 6, 2014 23:44:22 GMT -5
As this song has been rising on the charts, I finally started to focus on the lyrics / title. Most of it is unoffensive, perhaps even positive. But IMO, calling your woman a "shotgun rider" is really offensive and annoying even if you don't take it to the next level of admiring the "rider" occupying your space in your car for her (its) cut-off jeans or pink toenails. I can't find one line that is even close to offensive. Why is it offensive to call her his, "shotgun rider." Even in it's most basic definition, all it means is the person next to you in a car. What in the world is wrong with that?
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Post by ClevelandRox on Dec 7, 2014 12:12:51 GMT -5
I'm offended that anyone could find this song offensive.
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Post by jesster on Dec 7, 2014 18:22:16 GMT -5
I get that it's a metaphor. But putting your supposed true love into a label that puts her in a passive role and more or less the equivalent of a seat warmer / lookout is not very appealing. I do find it offensive, and also possessive in an unpleasant way. If some guy called me his "shotgun rider" the results would not be pretty Shotgun rider through life is even worse, as it makes it a second-tier relationship for life. Vs. just an awkward choice reaching too hard for a unique title/metaphor in an otherwise innocuous song. Just my two cents -
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 7, 2014 19:43:36 GMT -5
I get that it's a metaphor. But putting your supposed true love into a label that puts her in a passive role and more or less the equivalent of a seat warmer / lookout is not very appealing. I do find it offensive, and also possessive in an unpleasant way. If some guy called me his "shotgun rider" the results would not be pretty Shotgun rider through life is even worse, as it makes it a second-tier relationship for life. Vs. just an awkward choice reaching too hard for a unique title/metaphor in an otherwise innocuous song. Just my two cents - The whole "life is a journey" metaphor is enforced here with references to driving throughout the song, so 'shotgun rider' is just referring to the girl right beside him while he is going [driving] through life. It's not like Tim is going to walk up to someone at a dinner party and introduce Faith as "his shotgun rider". It just adds to the concept of the song.
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Post by liza on Dec 7, 2014 22:30:29 GMT -5
I get that it's a metaphor. But putting your supposed true love into a label that puts her in a passive role and more or less the equivalent of a seat warmer / lookout is not very appealing. I do find it offensive, and also possessive in an unpleasant way. If some guy called me his "shotgun rider" the results would not be pretty Shotgun rider through life is even worse, as it makes it a second-tier relationship for life. Vs. just an awkward choice reaching too hard for a unique title/metaphor in an otherwise innocuous song. Just my two cents - Shotgun rider is not a passive role - it's the person who watches someone's back and is there to provide aid in time of need - think stagecoach.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 8, 2014 12:22:11 GMT -5
There are so many songs with degrading lyrics -- the man in this song at least seems to imagine the woman as an adult, not a plaything. That gets you into the top 25% of oountry lyrics, in my opinion, so I'd give it a pass. But I do want to back up Jesster by saying that, in this extended metaphor about cars and life, Tim doesn't even seem to be able to imagine that the woman might do any of the driving, or even want to drive. She's shotgun and that's it.
So I could see anybody finding that discouraging.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 8, 2014 13:22:13 GMT -5
There are so many songs with degrading lyrics -- the man in this song at least seems to imagine the woman as an adult, not a plaything. That gets you into the top 25% of oountry lyrics, in my opinion, so I'd give it a pass. But I do want to back up Jesster by saying that, in this extended metaphor about cars and life, Tim doesn't even seem to be able to imagine that the woman might do any of the driving, or even want to drive. She's shotgun and that's it. So I could see anybody finding that discouraging. There goes Zazie again, discovering a brand new genre. :)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 16:46:20 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that "Shotgun Rider" is the #1 country song on iTunes right now. It seems there's usually a song with more cross-genre appeal on the charts that ends up being #1. This is actually only at #36 on the all-genre chart, which is usually good enough to be at least top 5 on iTunes country but rarely #1. I guess it's just timing and the CMA performance a few weeks ago has given this song a lasting boost of digital momentum. This will definitely bode well for Tim's chart run, and he may be able to get four weeks at #1.
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