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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 16:13:03 GMT -5
Artist: Sara Evans Single: "Put My Heart Down" Album: Slow Me Down (2nd single) Writers: Nathan Chapman, Andrew Dorff, and Liz Huett Label: RCA Nashville Impact Date: September 29Source: R&R Going For AddsAudio:
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 9, 2014 16:42:10 GMT -5
Geez, at this rate she'll be lucky to make #60. I think RCA took her album title way too literally.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 9, 2014 17:31:43 GMT -5
I wonder if something with Isaac's team halted the release of "Can't Stop..."? Because there is absolutely no reason why it took this long to get a second single out.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 9, 2014 17:42:46 GMT -5
Apologies for starting the "Can't Stop Loving You" thread, since that has obviously caused some pain of discussion. Lol
I will say that I like this single choice much better than the aforementioned "Can't Stop Loving You", though I still think it will be incredibly difficult for Sara and RCA to salvage any sort of momentum from this album. There's likely a good explanation for the delay then pull of the last song and the long wait since "Slow Me Down" peaked, though I'd be lying if I didn't leave me scratching my head.
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Post by kw9461 on Sept 9, 2014 20:38:46 GMT -5
I really didn't care for Slow Me Down or Can't Stop Loving You, but this one I really like. This sounds much more like the Real Fine Place era Sara that I enjoyed so much. Obviously the chart prospects aren't great with the labels mismanagement of things, but I don't think Can't Stop would've fared very well anyways (it kind of plodded, and I found the melody very unmemorable). The only way to overcome this situation was by bringing something strong to the table, and while this isn't can't miss like "A Little Bit Stronger", it at least has a chance, though I wouldn't bet on anything better than T40.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 20:56:00 GMT -5
Apologies for starting the "Can't Stop Loving You" thread, since that has obviously caused some pain of discussion. Lol No worries! The blame there is all on RCA for giving it an adds date and then not following through. I just meant that I'll probably lock that thread since a) we have a different single now and b) "Can't Stop Loving You" was never officially sent to radio. I like this one a lot, but I don't really see it doing much. I'm almost certain that the super long delay was caused by the addition of Garth and Trisha to RCA's roster (their singles were higher priorities and were released earlier), plus the fact that the label was basically working singles from ALL of their other active artists during the summer. The end of July got too busy for "Can't Stop Loving You" so they pushed it back to mid-August, but then they brought in Garth who was ready to go right away. And then Garth had HIS own delay (single was supposed to be out late July, but I'm thinking the launch of GhostTunes is what pushed him back to September), and as a result Sara really just got screwed over. I doubt it has much to do with Isaac Slade. The Fray is signed to Sony New York so I highly doubt it had anything to do with the label situation there. But even if, for some reason, Isaac's label didn't want his name attached to a country single, they would've said so right away and RCA Nashville would have then never even considered "Can't Stop Loving You" as a single. That was a simple yes/no situation that would've been worked out long ago. I just think RCA got stretched way too thin.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Sept 9, 2014 22:17:24 GMT -5
I'll say, I wasn't a fan of the album really, but this song was one I liked pretty well. Hope it does well.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 9, 2014 22:21:08 GMT -5
This song is decent enough, the chorus is pretty catchy, but I'll be shocked if this makes Top 40. It seems like "Slow Me Down" was forever ago already.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 10, 2014 0:24:01 GMT -5
YES. FINALLY. I don't want to get my hopes up too high that this will be the smash that it should be, given all the delays. That said, this is one of the best choices from the album for radio (along w/ "Sweet Spot") that could've been made, so I am super glad that they're going with this. I love "Can't Stop Loving You," but this is probably the better choice because of the tempo -- she hasn't had an uptempo hit in a very long time now. Even with the long delay in releasing this, I feel like it's a little soon to write this off completely though. If it's well-promoted, I could see it doing pretty well, albeit most likely after a longer, slower climb similar to "Slow Me Down." But it's only the second single and it's radio friendly, so I'd be surprised if RCA couldn't even get it to at least Top 40. I could see this being treated more like "My Heart Can't Tell You No" than "Anywhere" from her last record in terms of how much effort the label puts into it. But we'll see. I'm just happy something is coming out at last. I doubt it has much to do with Isaac Slade. The Fray is signed to Sony New York so I highly doubt it had anything to do with the label situation there. But even if, for some reason, Isaac's label didn't want his name attached to a country single, they would've said so right away and RCA Nashville would have then never even considered "Can't Stop Loving You" as a single. That was a simple yes/no situation that would've been worked out long ago. I just think RCA got stretched way too thin. I dunno, because then why would they switch singles? If it was just Garth/Trisha and a case of them having too much on the table at one time, I don't see why that would affect which single goes to radio. I've believed from the get-go that some of the delay came from something to do clearing everything with Isaac & co. Even when they first announced the initial July adds date, it was still after a pretty sizable gap from when SMD fell off the chart, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was somee behind-the-scenes negotiating that fell through or something to that affect.
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Post by LBTrocks on Sept 10, 2014 0:24:03 GMT -5
This is an okay song, but I think it's definitely going to struggle as a single. There are several songs on the album that I really like, but haven't really cared for the single choices.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 0:37:39 GMT -5
I dunno, because then why would they switch singles? If it was just Garth/Trisha and a case of them having too much on the table at one time, I don't see why that would affect which single goes to radio. I've believed from the get-go that some of the delay came from something to do clearing everything with Isaac & co. Even when they first announced the initial July adds date, it was still after a pretty sizable gap from when SMD fell off the chart, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was somee behind-the-scenes negotiating that fell through or something to that affect. You could be right. I certainly wasn't saying that I was right, but I still have my doubts. I don't know why it would take so long for them to figure out any behind the scenes type of stuff. And I don't know why Sony New York would say no to Sony Nashville given that they'd have nothing to lose. I guess, the way I see it, is that if there was any hesitation on the other end, then RCA would've just gone with another song from the get-go. Now I think they probably changed things up simply because they wanted something with more tempo (now that so much time has passed since "Slow Me Down" peaked). It's all just speculation, though. We'll likely never know.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 10, 2014 9:04:27 GMT -5
RCA had better push the hell out of Sara Evans to make up for the miscue on the last 'single'.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 10, 2014 11:03:49 GMT -5
RCA had better push the hell out of Sara Evans to make up for the miscue on the last 'single'. That would have to be one hell pf a push to reconcile the damage that has already been done. I still think that a top 40 peak would be reasonable to expect. Also, "Can't Stop Loving You" was never technically a single even though it was put up on All Access. It was pulled before the impact date.
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Post by T on Sept 10, 2014 12:28:50 GMT -5
Great choice, terrible timing as far as how long they waited to do this. Oh well, at least she will be back at radio. I'm predicting a top twenty finish. And judging by how the competition around her on the charts will be. Although Sara's chart success is always all over the place, the song could either tank or break big. That's just how her career goes, so I am excited to see what happens. As far as "Can't Stop" maybe they will still release it in the future, I want "Not Over You", "Better Off", & "Sweet Spot" all released to along with "Can't Stop". Sara said in an interview she doesn't plan on working on a new album in another 2 or 3 years so we will see if they push as many songs off of here as they possibly can (maybe that's why they are not worried about getting a new song out ASAP). Anyways, lets see what happens! I can't wait to see a video made too!!! GO SARA!!!!!
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 10, 2014 12:38:12 GMT -5
Apologies for starting the "Can't Stop Loving You" thread, since that has obviously caused some pain of discussion. Lol I will say that I like this single choice much better than the aforementioned "Can't Stop Loving You", though I still think it will be incredibly difficult for Sara and RCA to salvage any sort of momentum from this album. There's likely a good explanation for the delay then pull of the last song and the long wait since "Slow Me Down" peaked, though I'd be lying if I didn't leave me scratching my head. RCA Sent out "Can't Stop" to PlayMPe.
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Post by kas5462 on Sept 10, 2014 16:03:27 GMT -5
This is good song and Sara's voice is somewhat addicting (to me at least). I prefer it over "Cant't Stop Loving You". Hope it does well.
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Post by slowmo on Sept 10, 2014 17:36:05 GMT -5
I think this is a much better choice than "Can't Stop Loving You." Isaac's voice is very unpleasant to me so it sort of ruined that song, imo. Will this actually make a dent at radio? Who knows in this climate, I do think it has a better chance than the previously announced (nota)single. With as much time that has passed since "Slow Me Down," I don't know how much support the label will actually put behind this since there's virtually no momentum to work off of here.
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Post by saraevansrocks on Sept 10, 2014 17:48:32 GMT -5
This was my favorite from the get go, so I am glad she chose Put My Heart Down...but damn isn't it about a year between the release of Slow Me Down the single and this? I cannot even count the Isaac Slade tune because if that was a launch, then they surely were shooting blanks.
I love Sara. I love her voice, her live performances and her sense of humor. But her career has been full of twists and turns, and there is only one consistent thing....she works hard, and she makes great music. Right now it is impossible for women to get airplay on country radio. (Except. Miranda and Carrie of course). I cannot wait to see what happens when Trisha and Wynonna release new music. Maybe that will get the attention back on the women artists that we have loved for decades.
I really hope the new single does well. She deserves a hit. This is a great record all around. One of her best.
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Post by someguy on Sept 10, 2014 18:51:51 GMT -5
I think this was a good choice to release...six months ago. I hope for Sara's sake that this can turn out to be a hit, but after this long, I really don't know. It would be nice for this to hit, though.
I doubt we'll ever know what went on behind the scenes to cause the delay, but I hope they can recover from it.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Sept 10, 2014 23:18:53 GMT -5
Sorry... bomb. No way this hits.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 15, 2014 14:03:40 GMT -5
Delivered to country radio this afternoon.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 15, 2014 15:33:37 GMT -5
Delivered to country radio this afternoon. That single cover. :o Time to update my avatar! ;)
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 15, 2014 16:03:36 GMT -5
she looks amazing as always.... sorry, .indulgecountry ...I'm gonna have to join you!
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Post by mylifeback on Sept 15, 2014 17:00:11 GMT -5
Love that single artwork! I really hope this can do something, but it's basically starting from scratch. I hope they get her some TV performances to get exposure for this.
The huge delay is just inexplicable.
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Post by Hunter on Sept 15, 2014 23:05:47 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't understand how the "huge delay" between singles is a bad thing? I mean, granted, it sucks for the fans to have to wait so long for another single, but has momentum ever meant anything for Sara's career anyway?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 15, 2014 23:38:11 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't understand how the "huge delay" between singles is a bad thing? I mean, granted, it sucks for the fans to have to wait so long for another single, but has momentum ever meant anything for Sara's career anyway? Well the last time this happened, "Anywhere" did next to nothing after the insane delay after "My Heart Can't Tell You No" peaked.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 16, 2014 10:50:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't understand how the "huge delay" between singles is a bad thing? I mean, granted, it sucks for the fans to have to wait so long for another single, but has momentum ever meant anything for Sara's career anyway? Well the last time this happened, "Anywhere" did next to nothing after the insane delay after "My Heart Can't Tell You No" peaked. True, but that single was basically DOA because RCA didn't promote it. I can't see them doing that with "Put My Heart Down." And while I know that with female artists the chart trajectory seems to be that each subsequent single peaks (oftentimes significantly) lower than the last, I'm optimistic about this one. I just have a good feeling about it's chances, even with the delay and the lukewarm chart success of "Slow Me Down." I think some are taking the frustration of the delay a little too far in saying that it will effectively ruin this song's chances of being a hit at all, though I am annoyed that she had to spend several months off the airwaves.
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Post by austin on Sept 16, 2014 18:49:00 GMT -5
Very excited about this as it is the best song on the album and also a definite slam dunk single upon first listen.
Unfortunately, as everyone above has said, there is no way this will do as well as it should have after literally a half year off between singles. Even so, I am way more optimistic about the small chances of this becoming a surprise hit than I was about the Isaac Slade duet.
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Post by Hunter on Sept 17, 2014 10:55:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't understand how the "huge delay" between singles is a bad thing? I mean, granted, it sucks for the fans to have to wait so long for another single, but has momentum ever meant anything for Sara's career anyway? Well the last time this happened, "Anywhere" did next to nothing after the insane delay after "My Heart Can't Tell You No" peaked. Or MHCTYN and Anywhere just weren't great singles/songs. MHCTYN was a cover that most young people had never heard of. And I think the melody of that song is just awful. Parts of Anywhere were just lyrically bad: (1) "Hey I'll bag while you scan . . . " (um, what?) (2) "Yeah, we can go AAAAAAnyyyyywhheeeerreee." (The whole song was pretty much one word held out.) (3) "We can go anywhere. Love will lead us there." (Cheesy to the BONE. And cliche. Sounds like a Twilight fan wrote it.) So, regardless of what's happened historically, I'm excited about PMHD. The lyrics are strong and meaningful, it has a catchy melody, and Sara sings it wonderfully! Hopefully no one at Country radio--since this apparently happens--will be like, "OMG. Sara hasn't had a single out at radio in a while. So that means I can't play this new song because that would just be too difficult and my brain would fall out."
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 17, 2014 11:08:10 GMT -5
Well the last time this happened, "Anywhere" did next to nothing after the insane delay after "My Heart Can't Tell You No" peaked. Or MHCTYN and Anywhere just weren't great singles/songs. MHCTYN was a cover that most young people had never heard of. And I think the melody of that song is just awful. Parts of Anywhere were just lyrically bad: (1) "Hey I'll bag while you scan . . . " (um, what?) (2) "Yeah, we can go AAAAAAnyyyyywhheeeerreee." (The whole song was pretty much one word held out.) (3) "We can go anywhere. Love will lead us there." (Cheesy to the BONE. And cliche. Sounds like a Twilight fan wrote it.) So, regardless of what's happened historically, I'm excited about PMHD. The lyrics are strong and meaningful, it has a catchy melody, and Sara sings it wonderfully! Hopefully no one at Country radio--since this apparently happens--will be like, "OMG. Sara hasn't had a single out at radio in a while. So that means I can't play this new song because that would just be too difficult and my brain would fall out." Song quality is still subjective and "Put My Heart Down" is no different. Now I'm not saying I don't like the song cause I very much do, but this won't be a hit because you believe that "Anywhere" is lyrically weak. It's not like country radio is going to say "Well, this new Sara song is way better that "Anywhere" song she released well over two years ago, so obviously we have to add it to our playlist". If it hits, it will be for other reasons like promotion by RCA. Good songs peak low all the time. Sara's long break between singles IMO, is just too much to overcome here. There's also other factors like competition that you have to take into account, especially with a female artist which country radio has been very picky and choosy lately about who's female singles to break through. I'm certainly not saying that "Put My Heart Down" can't go at least top 20 as I do think it was the best radio friendly option, but there's plenty of plausible reasons to be pessimistic.
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